I remember reading somewhere that its not possible to do video or picture messaging on windows phone 7 is that a carrier issue or did microsoft leave that out? will that be implemented in the future?
picture messaging works fine, its video messaging that is missing. Not sure when its gonna get added. Seems that was MS decision (though carriers could have pushed for it).
deadwrong03 said:
I remember reading somewhere that its not possible to do video or picture messaging on windows phone 7 is that a carrier issue or did microsoft leave that out? will that be implemented in the future?
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Picture messaging works fine, you can receive video messages, but you cannot send them (except that you can forward video messages that you have received).
Not on this phone
Interesting, no my htc surround on at&t does not receive video messages not to mention not being able to send them. This is my biggest beef with wp7. A good laugh at lunch would be appreciated. Dumb phones can do this. Is it too lowbrow for Ms and their metro UI? It may seem trite but the wp7 is a visual medium. Video messaging goes hand in hand with social networking and is sorely missed.
Have most WP7's always been able to receive video messages, or is that something that came with the NoDo update? I don't remember it ever working and the next day after installing the updates I received one.
nrfitchett4 said:
picture messaging works fine, its video messaging that is missing. Not sure when its gonna get added. Seems that was MS decision (though carriers could have pushed for it).
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There is no way a carrier pushed for the lack of video messaging in WP7, when every other smartphone OS on every other carrier does it.
Video messaging is never an issue for them because there are size limitations in MMS and most if not all phones compress (rather heavily) the video, anyways, just as they do teh photos.
It just sucks because a lot of people still have feature phones and Picture/Video MMS functionality is a must for communicating with these people.
Ask winpho support on twitter & they said they had no info when vid msgs were coming...Pisses me off.....
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Have most WP7's always been able to receive video messages, or is that something that came with the NoDo update? I don't remember it ever working and the next day after installing the updates I received one.
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MMS messages can be sent & received but they just show a static image & don't play. This has been the case since before NoDo.
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Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen
I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.
In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!
I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.
For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied
Marvin_S said:
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
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to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless
I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.
So on my iphone I could have group conversations with 3 other people and it would all be in the same conversation window, I but now, on my one x, when I try this it just sends to everyone individually. It works on my friends droid because he has the verizon messaging app which isn't available to att users (I think)
anyways I was just wondering if there was a simple solution to this (I've tried two 3rd party messaging apps with no luck)
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to get that, AFAIK. The "WhatsApp Messenger" app does this, but that's not actual text messaging, it's an IM app that uses your contacts phone numbers to identify them, and can only message other WhatsApp users.
Just for my own curiosity, when you would do this with your iPhone, would all the other participants be iPhone users? Or would it be a mixed bag of BB/Android/WP7/iPhone?
You should check out the app 'GroupMe'.
Great app that can do either real texting or over the internet messages.
The catch is, you have to message a 'Group number' and GroupMe then forwards that message on to everyone else.
This enables you to add/remove people to a conversation.
You can make these numbers private or public
I'm pretty sure they support every os and you can also just use their website to send messages.
It's all free which is the best part.
This is one of my biggest gripes with Android ICS. My Galaxy Nexus wasn't able to do group SMS either and, coming from an iPhone where I had lots of groups, it's a pain in the ass.
Also, using 3rd party apps that require every other person you want to chat with to also have the app is not a real solution. GroupMe is even worse than the rest b/c if someone EVER had the app (and no longer does) it doesn't recognize that and just doesn't deliver the message at all.
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This is one of my biggest gripes with Android ICS. My Galaxy Nexus wasn't able to do group SMS either and, coming from an iPhone where I had lots of groups, it's a pain in the ass.
Also, using 3rd party apps that require every other person you want to chat with to also have the app is not a real solution. GroupMe is even worse than the rest b/c if someone EVER had the app (and no longer does) it doesn't recognize that and just doesn't deliver the message at all.
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The awesome thing about GroupMe is you don't need the App at all. You can use their service purely through texting.
[email protected] said:
The awesome thing about GroupMe is you don't need the App at all. You can use their service purely through texting.
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You didn't read what I wrote. If someone EVER had the app and got rid of it then the app doesn't recognize that and simply doesn't deliver the message at all. This is even worse than simply not being able to message people who don't have the app b/c now the sender has no clue whether their messages were delivered to each recipient.
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You didn't read what I wrote. If someone EVER had the app and got rid of it then the app doesn't recognize that and simply doesn't deliver the message at all. This is even worse than simply not being able to message people who don't have the app b/c now the sender has no clue whether their messages were delivered to each recipient.
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If I am not mistaken, If the user changed his settings through the web interface he could set it up to be texting only again.
I have never ran in to this issue personally. When I removed the App from my phone I would still get the messages, just not through texts until I switched the settings.
Sorry for not fully understanding the first time.
Just a general question.
Can the htc 7 pro on 7 send video messages? If not, when i upgrade to 7.5 does that add the option?
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Just a general question.
Can the htc 7 pro on 7 send video messages? If not, when i upgrade to 7.5 does that add the option?
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When you update to the Tango release, you will be able to send video messages. It's supposed to be out beginning of June. You will need to update to 7.5 first.
Sorry about posting in the other section, i didnt know where to do so.
@jessenic thanks i was unaware the 7 pro would get tango.
All Windows Phones will get the Tango update. Apllo (WP8) too, most likely.
I'm using Tango on my Trophy and it is able to send video messaging but one thing I don't get is why stop at video; how about audio, pdfs and other documents? Sometimes I wonder about what MS is thinking.
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I'm using Tango on my Trophy and it is able to send video messaging but one thing I don't get is why stop at video; how about audio, pdfs and other documents? Sometimes I wonder about what MS is thinking.
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you are right. we have only a few options to send via sms/mms, what symbian device can for years now. its good that we can send in the future videos, and we also can voice recordings (audio) is that what you mean with audio? or do you think of *.mp3
I take a normal 3-4 meg picture and when I send it using Google messenger it compresses it to 30-45kb, yea, KB!
This is horrid and embarrassing when people actually get said picture. Its such terrible quality. My friend on Tmobile with his Iphone looked to have the same issue a week ago when we were testing.
Is there some setting here? OR is this going to be Tmobile's new thing?
It's not tmobile only, mms have some standards and one of them is that they cannot carry big amounts of data (3-4mb). every phone does it whether on tmobile or some other carrier, its built into the phone and therefore into the messaging app. The phone has to compress the image in order to be able to send it. Thats why I use whats app or any other internet based messaging system(imessage, hangouts, etc) when I send any photo
maybe I should rephrase
This isn't my first rodeo, I've done enough with phones over the many years to understand exactly how it works, but this is the first time they have ever compressed a 3-4 meg picture down to 20-40kb, for example on AT&T and Verizon during my testing its at least double that for the same size picture, if not even more , many times compressing it to a 200-350kb size picture. @ 40kb the picture is not even really recognized..
do the test now, take a picture high res. and send it to someone, check the size of the photo you sent.
Is this my phone issue? or is this a tmobile issue? or is there a setting somewhere within the app or phone that is telling it to use low data when sending pictures
It is Google messenger. Use the stock app and the issue goes away. 820KB file size for stock app and 17KB for Google messenger.
if you are sending the pic to a newer phone it will send the full size
the sms app on newer phones has more features you can only use on newer to newer phones
Rich 1 on 1 and group messaging, including near real-time chat
See when others are typing, when your message is delivered and even read
Share high-res photos and videos up to 10 MB just as you would a regular text message
I've heard the opposite about the default messaging app in android. Started with my note 5. I couldn't send pics and text, only pics. So all you have to do is download a messaging app that has better features.
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The issue is specifically with Google messenger. I noticed this right when the G5 was released. Any other SMS client (stock, textra, hangouts) fixes the issue. I haven't tested it with the latest update of Google messenger though. Which version were you using?
google messenger sucks, facebook messenger sucks, I use handcent and that seems to send reasonably sized pictures.
So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
With Textra, this is available. I turned it on and it works. They are fixing the issue with Live messaging right now. I am with AT&T.
Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
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Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
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Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
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Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
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Yeah I messaged support and they said it's on the table but hasn't been officially added yet
According to Textra's Twitter, Google haven't released the API so it's not going to happen until they do
KingVekxin said:
So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
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Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
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Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
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AT&T only supports an older version of RCS (not Universal Profile) at the moment. AT&T has it integrated into the bundled samsung messages app so it works there, but Android Messages only supports the current version of RCS (Universal Profile). Hopefully AT&T will upgrade their RCS system soon...
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I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
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FWIW - It does work to its fullest in Textra. I've been using both for months, and I can insert emoji, GIFs, everything.
But the stock Samsung Messages app does not allow you to message users on iPhone without compressing the hell out of everything. So I don't think RCS is fully up yet on AT&T's side. From everything I've read, universal RCS allows for message sizes similar to iMessage. That's the only thing I miss from iPhone and is why I use Facebook Messenger or Allo for texting now. I'm sick of not being able to send gifs, videos or pictures of decent quality. No apps including Textra work for me without the crazy compression or other limitations.