Good morning fellow Androidians! (i like the sound of that )
This has been a VERY exciting and adventurous morning for me! I have been researching the Android 3.0 Honeycomb SDK release built for the Motorola Xoom, and I have spend all this morning installing it to my Nook! To my surprise, it worked well, actually, AMAZINGLY well.
After the install, I had the Android Market, Google Maps, YouTube, and with logging in to my google account, I could download ANY android app that a normal Android device could.
And here is the best part.
I have ADOBE FLASH 10.2 working! Yes! Just downloaded the .APK in the browser, and voila, installed and working great!
Now some may ask, how did you install it? Rosenbaa29, HOW did you do it? Actually, it was fairily difficult, but if my father and I could do it, anyone can
These are the directions written by Will Shanklin, all credit goes to him.
***NOTE: HONEYCOMB CAN NOW BE INSTALLED TO YOUR NOOK'S INTERNAL MEMORY TOO. SEE THIS THREAD FOR INSTRUCTIONS. THIS THREAD IS FOR SD CARD INSTALLATION.
* UPDATE 2/8 MORE FIXES:
(quoted from dev's thread)
"v04 - 02/07/2011
increased touchscreen sensitivity and made touchscreen more usable close to the borders (kernel change)
fixed heap size issue to get much more programs running (e.g. nook app, kindle app, etc.)"
Those updating from the previous version, see updating section at bottom
Here's how to get Honeycomb running on your Nook Color right now.
Credit to dev deeper-blue (Rafael Brune) whose thread can be found here: Android 3.0 Honeycomb Image - xda-developers
1. Download the image:
nookhoney04.img.zip
Torrent: nookhoney04.img.zip (might be faster than either of the above options - of course you'll need a torrent client like bittorrent)
Unzip the image onto your computer using WinRAR on PC, or or Stuffit Expander (on Mac).
2. Get an SD card, at least 4GB.
Some had problems with 4GB cards, others said the image stalled burning, but then it worked anyway. Worth a try, but larger than 4GB, you should be fine.
3A. PC Users:
- The usual program for this, Win32DiskImager, isn't working with this large file. So download WinImage, and under 'Disk' choose "Restore Virtual Image to Physical Drive." Change the files shown at the bottom to "all files" and select the file.
On Mac:
3B. Mac Users:
- Open a terminal window
-Find which drive the sd card is mapped to: type in the terminal this:
diskutil list
- Be very careful to identify the SD card and not your hard disk. Be VERY careful.
- Now unmount that drive typing this:
diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk#
(My computer is was disk2 replace # with your number. Do NOT use the disk#s)
The computer should say: Unmount of all volumes on disk was successful
Type:
dd if=nookhoney04.img of=/dev/rdisk# bs=1m
Everything needed should copy right over to the card.
4. Power down your Nook, insert the microSD card, and it should boot into Honeycomb!!!!!!
Installing the Android Market on the Nook Color running Honeycomb:
1. Download this version of the Market (2.2.11).
2. Download GoogleServicesFramework.apk.
3. Place the files in your adb tools folder (or platform-tools on the newer version - wherever adb.exe is)
4. Open a command prompt in that folder, and issue the following commands:
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /system
adb push Vending.apk system/app/Vending.apk
adb push GoogleServicesFramework.apk system/app/GoogleServicesFramework.apk
adb shell
cd system/app
chmod 6755 Vending.apk
chmod 6755 GoogleServicesFramework.apk
exit
adb reboot
Then go to apps, open the market, sign in. If the Market won't open at first, reboot and try again.
**Overclock instructions greyed out until new kernels are confirmed working with the new update**
Overclocking Honeycomb to 1.1GHz (might work, might not, might work then stop working):
Credit goes to dalingrin, his thread: [FYI]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451
1. Download uImage (extract the uImage file somewhere on your computer)
2. If you haven't yet booted Honeycomb, skip to 4. If you've already booted it, see 3.
3. With the Nook booted into Honeycomb, connect via adb, and issue the following:
adb shell
cd data/dalvik-cache
rm *
exit
. . . and then power off your Nook immediately, without opening any apps. It's probably best to power it off with a hard reset (hold power down 10-15 seconds).
4. Remove the SD card, and place it back in an SD reader.
5. Open the folder (it should say boot) and make a copy of that uImage file on your computer. If you discover later on that the overclocking kernel doesn't work, simply replace the new one with this original that you're backing up now.
6. Now replace it with the uImage folder you downloaded earlier. Reboot, and enjoy the overclock!
Updating
To preserve much of your data, first, you'll need to root. See our stickied root Honeycomb on the Nook thread. This has nothing to do with whether the Barnes & Noble ROM is rooted or not on your Nook.
Now, while still on version 2, do a complete backup with Titanium backup.
Then, open a command prompt in your adb folder and enter the following:
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mmcblk1 /
adb pull sdcard/[path to your adb folder, such as c:/sdk/tools/]/honeysd
Then update to v2 by the procedure above. Then root again by the procedure in that thread.
Now open another command prompt in the same place:
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mmcblk1 /
adb push [path to your adb folder]/honeysd/ sdcard/
Then restore apps in Titanium Backup (one at a time, starting with your most essential apps is recommended. This is still an early build and some apps can causes crashes).
You should have all your apps now!
Features currently not working:
- not much to mention - lets play with this new update and see . . .
***note that you may need to turn your screen off/on once after every reboot to avoid touchscreen lag (much like w/Nookie Froyo)"
Have a great week, and if you have ANY questions or comments, let us know on this forum!
Wow great effort! A few more links to where we can download these files would help.
Although... I don't have a nook Tablet so do you think this will work on other tablets too?
Specifically the elonex e-touch 10
http://direct.asda.com/Elonex-eTouc...-Music-10gb-storage/000505981,default,pd.html
The specs are;
1024X600 Pixel screen
Android 2.1 (Upgrade to 2.2 out)
1GHZ Processor
256MB Ram
The ram seems a little low but seen as its cough *cheap*.... I couldn't say no!
10123 said:
Wow great effort! A few more links to where we can download these files would help.
Although... I don't have a nook Tablet so do you think this will work on other tablets too?
Specifically the elonex e-touch 10
http://direct.asda.com/Elonex-eTouc...-Music-10gb-storage/000505981,default,pd.html
The specs are;
1024X600 Pixel screen
Android 2.1 (Upgrade to 2.2 out)
1GHZ Processor
256MB Ram
The ram seems a little low but seen as its cough *cheap*.... I couldn't say no!
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You definitely have the specs to support honeycomb. Currently, the eTouch 10 runs android 2.1, but I will definitely figure out how to get a 3.0 release for it.
The Nook is a total iPad alternative, especially if we get an extremely stable android release for it, even if its only Gingerbread. How long have you had your tablet? What do you think about it?
10123 said:
Wow great effort! A few more links to where we can download these files would help.
Although... I don't have a nook Tablet so do you think this will work on other tablets too?
Specifically the elonex e-touch 10
http://direct.asda.com/Elonex-eTouc...-Music-10gb-storage/000505981,default,pd.html
The specs are;
1024X600 Pixel screen
Android 2.1 (Upgrade to 2.2 out)
1GHZ Processor
256MB Ram
The ram seems a little low but seen as its cough *cheap*.... I couldn't say no!
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The real questions is, how do we get the Elonex Android 2.1 software on the Nook! 0_o lol
rosenbaa29 said:
You definitely have the specs to support honeycomb. Currently, the eTouch 10 runs android 2.1, but I will definitely figure out how to get a 3.0 release for it.
The Nook is a total iPad alternative, especially if we get an extremely stable android release for it, even if its only Gingerbread. How long have you had your tablet? What do you think about it?
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I've ordered and paid for it, I just need to pick it up in the store. Its supposed to be delivered in 3-5 days. So Tuesday hopefully.
Theres actually a fair amount of folks that have bought it.
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/zenithink-zt180-10-generation-1/v
Unfortunately there is no app/rom development for it due to lack of support (Maybe as its just been released in the UK). I've been looking at support for similar spec tablets (Galaxy Tab ect) its just a question of whether it'll all work.
If we can get honeycomb working for it, it could be huge on XDA. A £129 tablet that has Honeycomb... yes please! And seen as your from the US it should come to Wal-Mart at some point (ASDA is owned by Wal-Mart).
Anyway, yeah any support would be greatly appreciated.
rosenbaa29 said:
The real questions is, how do we get the Elonex Android 2.1 software on the Nook! 0_o lol
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LOL why would you want that? Doesn't the Nook come with 2.1 anyway.
10123 said:
I've ordered and paid for it, I just need to pick it up in the store. Its supposed to be delivered in 3-5 days. So Tuesday hopefully.
Theres actually a fair amount of folks that have bought it.
Unfortunately there is no app/rom development for it due to lack of support (Maybe as its just been released in the UK). I've been looking at support for similar spec tables (Galaxy Tab ect) its just a question of whether it'll all work.
If we can get honeycomb working for it, it could be huge on XDA. A £129 tablet that has Honeycomb... yes please! And seen as your from the US it should come to Wal-Mart at some point (ASDA is owned by Wal-Mart).
Anyway, yeah any support would be greatly appreciated.
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ok.... question from a lurker here....first of all, as a newer owner of Android OS, (an unREVOKED, rooted Evo), I'm trying to help my dad with his new "gadget"... it's a 7" tablet, google iRobot that came from China and has andoid 3.0 Even when he attempts to download from the installed App Market (not a true version of Android Market it seems...) most apps tell him there is no phone associated with the account... AppBrain doesn't work either.... any method or resource that would be useful to him? Most of the icons on the device mimic Apple's, such as the Safari, Settings, etc...
He's 60... trying to download card games, etc lol... any and all help would be appreciated!
Jenn
[email protected]
10123 said:
I've ordered and paid for it, I just need to pick it up in the store. Its supposed to be delivered in 3-5 days. So Tuesday hopefully.
Theres actually a fair amount of folks that have bought it.
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/zenithink-zt180-10-generation-1/v
Unfortunately there is no app/rom development for it due to lack of support (Maybe as its just been released in the UK). I've been looking at support for similar spec tables (Galaxy Tab ect) its just a question of whether it'll all work.
If we can get honeycomb working for it, it could be huge on XDA. A £129 tablet that has Honeycomb... yes please! And seen as your from the US it should come to Wal-Mart at some point (ASDA is owned by Wal-Mart).
Anyway, yeah any support would be greatly appreciated.
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Well you know where to go! And let us know how it is when you get it, I might just have to grab one for dev purposes! We will be golden if we can get honeycomb on it.
Alanis0811 said:
ok.... question from a lurker here....first of all, as a newer owner of Android OS, (an unREVOKED, rooted Evo), I'm trying to help my dad with his new "gadget"... it's a 7" tablet, google iRobot that came from China and has andoid 3.0 Even when he attempts to download from the installed App Market (not a true version of Android Market it seems...) most apps tell him there is no phone associated with the account... AppBrain doesn't work either.... any method or resource that would be useful to him? Most of the icons on the device mimic Apple's, such as the Safari, Settings, etc...
He's 60... trying to download card games, etc lol... any and all help would be appreciated!
Jenn
[email protected]
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The thing is, you need to log into market with your google information on an android phone to activate "android market" on your specified google account, then you can use that google email to access any android features that may later come. Does that make sense?
rosenbaa29 said:
The thing is, you need to log into market with your google information on an android phone to activate "android market" on your specified google account, then you can use that google email to access any android features that may later come. Does that make sense?
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The thing is for me, I already have my droid pro on verizon, so I can access the market on my nook as long as I use the same email that I used on my droid. So see if you can use a friends phone. You would need to back it up, then do a settings_>privacy->factory reset on it. Then when it starts back up, enter your gmail account information and download at least one app from the market. then he can do the factory reset on it and put on his old email and information again. Let me knwo if that is a possibility for you.
can my tablet PC be upgrate to honeycomb?
SPECF is as follows:
Tegra 2ual core A9 1GHz
Memory:512M
10 Inches capacity screen 1024x600
i am a newbie on android ..
onesummernight said:
can my tablet PC be upgrate to honeycomb?
SPECF is as follows:
Tegra 2ual core A9 1GHz
Memory:512M
10 Inches capacity screen 1024x600
i am a newbie on android ..
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It should be officially released in about a month for you!
Related
Ok, theres a lot of threads out there on getting Debian working "with" Android side by side. What about getting Debian working primarily and natively? You can easily modify the bootloader to boot into Debian.
No I'm not talking about chrooting into debian from the Android environment.
With this being said there are plenty of possibilities. Debian works natively with ARM, so you can go ahead and install Xorg with touchpad driver etc. and get Debian working up to fullspeed. Believe me, it works a 1000x better than using AndroidVNC and tightvnc server. You can actually use mplayer with ffmpeg to play any type of vidoes off your sdcard at fullspeed.
So anyway, what do you guys think? Maybe theres a way to modify the bootloader so at boot time you can choose to boot into debian or android etc. or maybe it would be possible to lets say "boot debian" and vnc into androids fb to "make a phone call" etc., kind of a like a reverse vnc method we use to get into X on the debian side. Heck - we could maybe even figure out how to access the framework to make calls natively through debian. The possibilities are endless.
Also, I'll edit this post and try to get a guide going here in a couple days on how to get Debian ARM/Xorg working.
I was actually wondering myself if this could be done. Heck, not like I do not enjoy android or anything. It would be great to be able to run a lot of my *nix apps natively on my phone.
I already have Debian runnin off my 8GB sdcard(unfortunately a class 2) and I enjoy it. Problem is having to shut it down and restart it so much to get functionality out of my G1.
Keep me up to date on your progress and let me know the best GUI to use for better performance.
so whats the deal, anyone actually got this working? i have no use for my brothers g1 considering the low call quality/not recieving mms'es, i mean literally if i put them side by side, my excalibur has better service/reception. and id be pretty sweet to have crystal fvwm running on g1. so it doesnt really matter to me if i could get it to make calls, as theres always skype/amsn w.e. so pretty much anyone got any links on getting a native debian install?
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so whats the deal, anyone actually got this working? i have no use for my brothers g1 considering the low call quality/not recieving mms'es, i mean literally if i put them side by side, my excalibur has better service/reception. and id be pretty sweet to have crystal fvwm running on g1. so it doesnt really matter to me if i could get it to make calls, as theres always skype/amsn w.e. so pretty much anyone got any links on getting a native debian install?
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Yes they got this working. If you looked at the bible you would've seen this. But I will give you the link enjoy it is very cool. Youtube has some videos also.
http://www.saurik.com/id/10
Royalknight6190 said:
Yes they got this working. If you looked at the bible you would've seen this. But I will give you the link enjoy it is very cool. Youtube has some videos also.
http://www.saurik.com/id/10
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no you misunderstand . i mean run debian native, as in to replace android
dinscurge said:
no you misunderstand . i mean run debian native, as in to replace android
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Gotcha Sorry, um let me look around for yeah.
hey...check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1BOGl8Fnw
and heres another xda thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624392
USHERROB said:
hey...check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1BOGl8Fnw
and heres another xda thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624392
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ahh thx for the link i saw this before but misplaced the bookmark. but im afraid thats not exactly what im looking for but that probably doesnt exist. as this is only set up to have dual boot booting android/debian of 3rd part on sdcard. and as far as i am seeing in the thread it isnt working to well. that im just going to have to wait and see what happens.
This is an old thread, but still a very interesting topic.
Would be *great* to but debian at the bottom of things.
A note about the bootloader: It is ***ALREADY DUALBOOT***. There are TWO boot partitions on the phone: "boot" and "recovery". If you want to set it up to dualboot, but your primary (automated) boot kernel into "boot", and your secondary in "recovery".
As long as you have an engineering SPL, the actual recovery is not required -- in fact, if you WANT to boot into recovery, you can always "fastboot boot recovery.img" without even having to flash the recovery to the phone.
I tell you the thing that really bugs me about android: that it doesn't support existing X.
What I dream of at night is running the ANDROID stuff ON TOP OF X. It would present a little bit of a challenge in terms of having the PHONE app (or whatever) be able to pop up to the top. There would also be some RESOURCE challenges. DREAM may not be the best hardware to implement this on.
Native Xorg
A slight off-topic because I have Samsung Galaxy
I was also fascinated by this possibility of running debian linux, Xorg on the phone.
So I created this project "linux-on-android" (sorry, I am not allowed to post links yet) on the google code where I am going to post instructions and code. Please, join the project if you are interested. It should be completely open.
The idea is to start with something simple but working and move slowly. In order to run X server from the Debian distribution it is enough to just use the Android kernel, with only a little change to the framebuffer driver. I don't change the boot procedure - only turn off the android services and put things like startx instead. Now I am trying to use matchbox+LXDE and they look nice and fast. Wifi and touchpad work. Nothing else does. I thought about what would be the minimal working configuration and decided that power management + telephony would be very good.
With the telephony I plan to leave the android RIL daemon and write a small python program that would communicate with it and act as a dialer. It appears to be not such a problem, at least I am able to communicate with the daemon now and all requests are nicely wrapped in python methods. The next step is to write phone GUI/dialer.
I think it would be already very nice to have Xorg and debian running on top of the android daemons and android kernel replacing this "zygote" stuff. Also if we do something in this way, it would probably work on any android-based phone without big changes.
About dual-boot: I am still using chroot, I don't find anything bad in it. I have two different boot.img files, they only differ by init.rc, one which starts zygote, and one which starts Xorg. In Android I press a button and reboot in debian, in debian I press a button and reboot in android.
klinck said:
A slight off-topic because I have Samsung Galaxy
I was also fascinated by this possibility of running debian linux, Xorg on the phone.
So I created this project "linux-on-android" (sorry, I am not allowed to post links yet) on the google code where I am going to post instructions and code.
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I'll post it for you in the hope to get something good going here
http://code.google.com/p/linux-on-android/
Wow klinck you really seem to be making awesome progress here man. Just looking through your project page and i see it being updated every day. I just watched the video proof and i must say it's really quite impressive.
What needs to be done now is make a guide for this, so people can easily install this on their G1 and test it.
Also, this will give it more developer attention. I really think this deserves a chance
EDIT: added links for easyness
Jefmeister said:
EDIT: added links for easyness
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To Jefmeister: thanks for posting the links and your interest.
About G1: As I said, I have Samsung Galaxy, so I don't have a chance to test it on G1. But still I can probably make a "binary distribution" for G1 and somebody else can test it. There are some hardware differences, to summarize, there are 3 things I need to change:
I need a kernel for G1 with ext3 support, and patched framebuffer driver which turns double buffering into single buffering and automatically updates screen at regular intervals
I need to know if tslib driver works with touchscreen from G1 and what is the corresponding device (it is /dev/input/event2 in my case)
I need to know where to put the debian distribution. In Galaxy we have a separate 1Gb ext3 partition on SD card which is normally used for '/data' directory, so there is a plenty of free space there. But I guess it may be different on G1.
klinck said:
To Jefmeister: thanks for posting the links and your interest.
About G1: As I said, I have Samsung Galaxy, so I don't have a chance to test it on G1. But still I can probably make a "binary distribution" for G1 and somebody else can test it. There are some hardware differences, to summarize, there are 3 things I need to change:
I need a kernel for G1 with ext3 support, and patched framebuffer driver which turns double buffering into single buffering and automatically updates screen at regular intervals
I need to know if tslib driver works with touchscreen from G1 and what is the corresponding device (it is /dev/input/event2 in my case)
I need to know where to put the debian distribution. In Galaxy we have a separate 1Gb ext3 partition on SD card which is normally used for '/data' directory, so there is a plenty of free space there. But I guess it may be different on G1.
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(3): You could certainly put it all on the sdcard in exactly the same way. As long as you have the sdcard driver built into the kernel, the sdcard is just like any other storage device.
I dont know if this is going to be of any help to you, but as I was searching around for a way to nativly install linux on my dream I found this.
http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream
It may interesting as a point of refrence.
anyway, keep up the good work, once my conract expires this is exactly the kind of thing I would love to do with my old phone
Hi all !
I have actually an Debian NATIVE on my G1, both Debian/OpenMOKO/Android on the SAME phone.
android are into NAND FLASH, OpenMOKO (for tests and few binaries/config files) into SD2 Partition, and Debian with all tools to compilation, into SD3 Partition.
Actualy work on my Debian G1 :
USB NET
Xorg
Keyboard (but one touch not responding)
Touchscreen (but the calibration into Worg not work, into FBCONS it's OK)
Trackball (but the ball not "click")
I trying to make call, with OpenMoko I can ring my phone.
I trying also WiFi : Crash :'(
for bluetooth, I don't have the fu***** firmware ...
For ALL : You can boot debian with fastboot or recovery.
Debian CAN be into SD1/FAT32 parition, into loop file. I make an boot img, who can boot from SD1 part with loop image you don't must repartition SDCARD, or have dedicated SD card.
I have a Viewsonic G Tab that I flashed to Cyanogen 7. Now when I plug the device into my computer, it only reads the SD card I inserted (not the phone's internal memory). Plus, I can't use any file explorer programs to copy and paste from the SD card to the phone's memory. This is making things like flashing a different rom or adding the marketplace pretty much impossible. Any help? I'm new to rooting tabs, but I've hacked quite a few phones.
If there's a dev out there that has an answer that gets me up and running, I'd be more than happy to donate.
jskrenes said:
I have a Viewsonic G Tab that I flashed to Cyanogen 7. Now when I plug the device into my computer, it only reads the SD card I inserted (not the phone's internal memory). Plus, I can't use any file explorer programs to copy and paste from the SD card to the phone's memory. This is making things like flashing a different rom or adding the marketplace pretty much impossible. Any help? I'm new to rooting tabs, but I've hacked quite a few phones.
If there's a dev out there that has an answer that gets me up and running, I'd be more than happy to donate.
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I have read other reports of this, though i don't have a solution for this problem, you could try something else.
When you are connected over usb, use adb from the android sdk and try "adb push file_on_computer file_on_device" to get some files on there.
Crap, I am not a programmer, and haven't gotten into using adb. I don't expect a full explanation of what adb is and how to get it and other android sdk stuff on my computer, as I know there are tons of posts and resources on this and other forums that will get me there.
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Crap, I am not a programmer, and haven't gotten into using adb. I don't expect a full explanation of what adb is and how to get it and other android sdk stuff on my computer, as I know there are tons of posts and resources on this and other forums that will get me there.
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Searching is always better , but i will give you some hints:
Download the SDK here
Install it.
Open the windows command prompt. (press windows button + R, type "cmd" , press enter)
If you installed it to "C:\android" go to "C:\android\platform-tools" inside the command prompt.
Type adb -h to see all available commands.
If you have further questions, google them, if you still have questions, come here and ask .
Cool, thanks. I bought this to try and save a few (hundred) bucks over the Xoom, and got the added bonus of getting to tweak it, which I kind of enjoy, I was just hoping to not have to learn this much stuff.
On a related note, if I get the device back to factory stock, do you know if I can download an app to my Android phone's SD card, drop the card into my Viewsonic, and load the apk from there? Loading the Android market on this thing sounds complicated (though it'll be child's play if I can bring it back to life).
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Cool, thanks. I bought this to try and save a few (hundred) bucks over the Xoom, and got the added bonus of getting to tweak it, which I kind of enjoy, I was just hoping to not have to learn this much stuff.
On a related note, if I get the device back to factory stock, do you know if I can download an app to my Android phone's SD card, drop the card into my Viewsonic, and load the apk from there? Loading the Android market on this thing sounds complicated (though it'll be child's play if I can bring it back to life).
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Well if you want tweaking you will have to learn a bit .
Depends on the app. If it is copyprotected or is using the licensing service i don't think you can copy it over.
Cyanogen came with a copy of ROM manager pre-installed on boot. A lot of features were limited to the full version, but I managed to do some reformatting and stuff (I wish I knew exactly what I did) and managed to get a different ROM installed and all seems to be working well.
I don't mind learning, but I either have to do it while I'm at work, which takes me off the sales floor, or at home, and I have a new kid to take care of, so the less learning I *have* to do, the better. But the nice thing about Android is that it is for the most part fairly resilient, and I've yet to encounter a software problem I couldn't fix.
INFORMATION
DEVICE
Craig CLP281 Android Netbook
Via Wondermedia 8650 based chipset / 800 mhz / wifi / 3 standard usb / ethernet!
PROS
Original firmware available
Original firmware unlocked
Unique form factor
Inexpensive
CONS
No obvious upgrade path
No sources posted
No officially supported flash player
Lower end hardware
HOWTO
unzip to sdcard
start device with sdcard plugged in
wait for everything to be wiped out
ROM
OVERVIEW
This is a modified version of the official firmware. The focus is on removal of bloatware and unneeded proprietary software.
INTEGRATED SOFTWARE
su
Superuser
Terminal Emulator
ConnectBot
Total Commander with ftp and lan plugins
Gapps
Zirco Browser
Yaxim Jabber Client
Jota Text Editor
DO IT YOURSELF
See the README to deduce how to modify the ROM yourself. The changes are documented thoroughly so that many people can use this release as a kitchen of sorts.
LINKS
R1
ROM: http://www.mediafire.com/?dsf11zm7jik9f63
SOURCE: http://www.mediafire.com/?8juzj5qb5jme1ud
ROM: http://dev-host.org/xcz68h384fe8/clp281_firmware2.2_HACK9_R1.zip
SOURCE: http://dev-host.org/ekni2eg4td3i/SOURCES_1.zip
R2
ROM: http://dev-host.org/gm3c1mrdeai3/clp281_firmware2.2_HACK10_R2.zip
ROM: http://www.mediafire.com/?4tpli2998g10to4
R3
ROM: http://dev-host.org/qyo428ewrgvl/clp281_firmware2.2_HACK11_R3.zip
SOURCE: http://dev-host.org/w8p6gotfisnb/SOURCES_2.zip
ROM: http://www.multiupload.com/V5MKGW7X5V
SOURCE: http://www.multiupload.com/KG7KJJKT8U
R4 (Latest)
ROM: http://dev-host.org/b1ufq9iixe9k/clp281_firmware2.2_HACK12_R4.zip
ROM: http://www.multiupload.com/IJWDECP8WF
chroot Repository
References:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486247
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172504
Please choose one of the following 2 methods!
USB Control Script (1st method):
DEBIAN_CONTROL - see bottom of post for script
MicroSD Control Script (2nd method):
DEBIAN_CONTROL_SD - see bottom of post for script
You will need this image unless you plan to put your own together.
Debian Squeeze Image:
http://www.multiupload.com/C9RDP4ODZX
The image can be flashed to your usb drive or sd/microsd card with dd on your fullsize computer. Please be aware that I have not tested running from a fullsize SD card.
dd if=~/nameofimage.img of=/dev/nameofdevice
Operation
1.Run the control script to start the chroot. You can run console commands here. The screen command is useful here also.
2.Run ./vnc to start the vnc server which itself starts xorg and the window manager. The script is not totally failure proof.
3.Login with your vnc client. I use Android vnc viewer. Password is testing.
http://code.google.com/p/android-vnc-viewer/
Window Managers
lxde
icewm
xfce
check /.vnc/ for the xstartup scripts. just rename the one for the window manager you want to xstartup and reboot your chroot.
BUG:
chroot will not cleanly unmount
SOLUTION:
keep chroot running in the background - it should only take up memory not cpu
Stock ROM Repository
Images contain stock system, stock boot, and CWM recovery.
vm670 recovery image is for the new screen version so it should work for all vm670.
LG vm670:
http://www.multiupload.com/LG1JCZ5CMD
Samsung i9023:
http://www.multiupload.com/KX1LIAASH3
Craig clp281:
http://www.multiupload.com/9XUQA7SEF1
Asus tf101:
http://www.multiupload.com/XMRO9AI4KC
Samsung p6210:
http://www.multiupload.com/L702W2MA7J
Can you add in support for the official android market, i would love to have this on here.
FAQ POST:
Does Flash work?
I am not holding out much hope for flash on ARMv6. It seems like a long complicating debugging process for what is in the end slow and buggy results.
The browser is slow?
Right now, it seems that javascript performance on the stock browser is much worse than I expected. For now, try turning off javascript and images if you use the stock browser.
Stock ROM?
The link for the device on Craig's website is:
http://www.craigelectronics.com/site/pdetails.php?id=314
You can download the completely stock ROM from here.
ADB?
I tried ADB with a male to male USB that I had laying around with no success with a GNU/Linux PC and a different Windows PC. All 3 USB ports were tested. But you can connect with adb connect ipofdevice over your LAN if you see what address your router is giving the device. Or of course you could set a static IP.
Minimize application?
You can return to the home screen at any time by pushing fn+home.
Sources for the binaries you have added?
Try the sources link on the first post. The zirco apk is unchanged and their website is here: http://code.google.com/p/zirco-browser/ . The Gapps are straight from my VM LG Optimus V.
Mount an ext2/3 formatted USB drive?
mount -t ext3 /dev/block/sda1 /mountpointofyourchoice
Enter key not working in some terminal applications?
Use Ctrl-m instead.
References:
https://github.com/jackpal/Android-Terminal-Emulator/issues/21
http://code.google.com/p/terminal-ide/issues/detail?id=6
Just wanted to thank you for taking this project on. This device could be much more and for the price you just can't go wrong. Good luck and I'm off to root.
Is it possible to boot or load a stripped version of windows xp from a thumb drive? and did you try all the usb ports with that cable?
wgallt:
The root situation on the ROM and my current devices in general is a little complicated. For this device in general, it comes ADB rooted out of the box. I have added another su to the rom that will allow console root. Unfortunately, because it is an older version of su, it does not seem to work with Superuser.apk. I am waiting on a response in the Q/A forum on errors I am getting compiling the current version of su. I have been able to compile Superuser.apk successfully but it is not much use without the current version of su. I am of course preferring to include source and source-compiled binaries wherever possible in the ROM.
celltimemb:
Market added.
See above for ADB info.
Regular Windows XP does not run natively on ARM CPUs. From Craig's website it appears that they have an identical model running Windows CE. You should look into any running a lightweight GNU/Linux chroot with QEMU or VMWare and then booting something like Windows 98. I would be amazed to see it, especially with the limited RAM we have available.
I am releasing a new ROM with integrated Google Apps and a open source browser named Zirco which seems to run very well. Compare the stock browser with stock settings to Zirco on forum.xda-developers.com to know what I mean. Be sure to read the README.
This ROM may end up becoming a different series entirely. One with the market and one without.
I have updated the first post with the links and README.
can u add live wallpaper support in a future rom?
If I get around to compiling AOSP that should come with live wallpaper.
I tried copying the live wallpaper apk and what I thought to be their dependencies from my Optimus V. Unfortunately, the switcher crashed and the logcat just said the wallpaper switcher would not start.
lot of apps run real slow and lag i tried some games like that bird game where you flick it to the target, i get like 1 frame every 2-3 seconds for the animation, soo slow, they claim 800 MHZ processor but damn this thing is soooo slow. even the fake chinese android phones the star A5000 runs and performs better than this.
2d games lag real bad so I dont see any 3d gaming at all on this machine. unless some elite hacker and coder can make a fully optimized rom for this thing.
Thanks for reporting your results. I have had mixed successes with games. The drag racing game works decent and another rice-can type racing game worked ok too. But many games instantly crash also. The live wallpaper would probably run slow anyway.
Web browsing
Remote administration
Network administration
Note taking
Light media playback
VOIP
Chat
These are all the uses I can think of it for the moment. It gives me an idea to include a note taking application at some point.
the new browser force closes on me, and does this thing have flash support, I have a gut feeling this is an x86 formfactor which is why it runs so slow.
Please read the README and in general read the previous posts carefully.
This is definitely not an x86. It if were, it would actually be faster.
One of these pages is the page for the CPU:
http://www.wondermedia.com.tw/en/products/platform/soc/wm8650/index.jsp
http://www.wondermedia.com.tw/en/products/platform/soc/wm8750/index.jsp
Lol on the craig website product page they show windows on it instead of android.
http://www.craigelectronics.com/site/pdetails.php?id=314
This thing can supposedly handle 3d gaming so i cant undertsand why most games including 2d games run so slow.
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Is it possible to put Windows CE 6 on this from the craig CLP280 model?
Merry Christmas!
After a productive night the R3 ROM is out.
The changelog and sofware list highlights:
removed zirco integration
init.rc changes to support zirco
holiday wallpaper
added OPTIONAL on localdisk with:
yaxim jabber client - open source
zirco browser - open source
jota text editor - open source
su - compiled from source
superuser - compiled from source
For security reasons, you should probably choose allow once instead of always for su.
As usual be sure to read the README.
Just got a Craig Netbook. I hate the Android stock install. I found this thread and it seems like the answer I'm looking for. If I understand you correctly, the description you give for the Rom"
"OVERVIEW
This is a modified version of the official firmware. The focus is on removal of bloatware and unneeded proprietary software."
is the first hack? (clp281_firmware2.2_HACK9_R1)
Also, if I do this and screw it up, can I reinstall the original Android from the Craig website?
Thanks.
Yes that is the first release. I would recommend trying the third as it is the latest version as of this post.
Yes you can reinstall the original firmware.
Thanks Jason.
Hey Jason. I just installed it. Had to download a new adobe flash player to watch a youtube video.
When it comes to this operating system I am a total newbie. So, in order to do a "do it yourself" install (since I still can't install some pre installed apps like "Dialer" and other things) are there simple instructions to do a "do it yourself" or do you have to be a techy to do it? I know Windows OS well but Android is so foreign to me. Just had this thing for a few days and I am ready to throw the netbook against the wall and then stomp on it. Your root was my last hope.
Well first off, were you able to actually play flash in the browser? That would be a nice new development. Alternatively, you could try the included Youtube player.
I would be glad to help in any way I can. For a do it yourself ROM, you would just take the factory firmware RAR file and edit it yourself. You would start by unRARing the file with something like WinRAR on Windows. But I would recommend trying GNU/Linux instead if you are at all interested in development. You can use the README file and this thread as a reference along the way.
Why are you interested in installing the dialer anyway? I noticed some phone components are installed but there seems to be no way to access them.
You're a doll Jason. Thanks for your willingness to help.
I didn't know about the Youtube player. Thanks for the tip. On the original install I was able to play flash in "Browser" (at Youtube at least) but not with "Browser" in this install. Although, maybe "Browser" opened "My Browser" in the original install and that's the one that had flash support. (I'm still learning). So since I didn't get around to installing your included browser maybe that's why it wouldn't play. Anyhow, I couldn't install the flash update via the link Youtube provided. The little download arrow on the top left hand of the screen just never went away. I had the unit on for about 3 hours and the arrow remained with no confirmation that the download was complete. I searched the system and the SD card for the download but couldn't find it. This is not the first time I had this problem with downloads so maybe it's something with my particular device. This is actually my third. Last two were defects.
About the Dialer... it was a typo. I meant to say I want to UNINSTALL it from the unit, but Android won't let me. It just seems useless to have this app since I have a netbook and not a phone. Plus, I think it may be eating up my battery usage as it could be the app responsible for the cell standby thing I have in Battery Usage which is using up 80% of my battery. Like I said, I am a newbie to this OS so, I'm looking at things like Dialer, Telophony etc. I may be wrong about this though. It may be some other application seeking Cell Radio signal as reported in Battery Usage.
I just did a side by side comparison of the unzipped install I got from Craigs website (by the way, thanks for that link) and your version to see if I could learn and do my own hack. I did notice a few differences.
Ok first I saw the Optional folder with some apps and Browser fix as you mentioned in the Read me
Then there was the app folder where you removed some apps from the original install and added others. Is it as simple as that? To just delete the apps you don't want from this folder of the original install? Unfortunately I don't see Dialer in that folder. I'd like to get rid of that too. I guess you can't get rid of every app.
Another difference was that I saw "su" in "bin". and I noticed SuperUser.apk in your app folder. Does that app make you the administrator of the device giving you access to system files to delete them if you want to? (I looked it up on WIKI) Cause maybe I can include that in my hack.
Also I see another difference in this folder:
\FirmwareInstall\packages\fs_patch\root_patch\system\lib
In your readme you said these are shared libraries but I don't have a clue what that means. Do I need these files?
Thanks again for taking the time with this. I would love to do my own hack. It would give me great satisfaction after the countless hours of stress trying to do stuff they won't let me do.
All the best,
Angie
Presenting Problem: Tablet is stuck rebooting itself once it gets to the booting screen animation, USB Debugging was not turned on on the tablet when it was working properly last time, and I need to turn USB Debugging on to fix my tablet. How do I do this?
Disclaimer: Yes, you'll think there are a million other threads about enabling USB debugging and whatnot, but this is totally different!
The Story: My device is a Grid10 tablet. It runs its custom OS built on Android Kernel (Gingerbread). Everything about it is android, except it's not android (and it's not a custom launcher or a skin).
... anyway
The Grid10: Almost nobody here own a Grid10 (I assume), so here's the thing... the Grid has only ONE button. The power button. No volume buttons, no home or back or menu buttons or anything... all those commands are gestures on the Grid (... if it started properly)
The Problem and its Cause: Now, It's stuck continuously rebooting itself once it gets to the the booting animation screen because I mistakenly deleted a file from system/app called SettingsProvider.apk
The Solution: I have the missing file on my laptop, and I need to put it back on the tablet. When I plug in its USB cable, I don't get a drive in My Computer. Obviously, it won't get into storage mode without being told to do so from the settings list (which I have no access to... because it's stuck rebooting itself at the booting animation screen... yes, I'm repeating myself so no one will tell me to "enable USB debugging" when I say that...)
So aparently, to get the file on my Grid, I need to use adb.
And since I didn't have USB Debugging enabled when the Grid was last operating properly, the adb can't see my tablet! (as shown by a 'adb devices' command).
The Sucky Recovery Menu: There is no fastboot on this thing (not that it would help with anything), but there is a recovery menu i can access (by holding down the power button while the tablet is booting), but it's no use. It looks like some kinda' custom recovery menu called "PBJ40 Recovery Utility". It has 4 commands:
reboot system now
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply sdcard: update.zip
I've tried all of these commands (selecting is done by pressing the power button, and when un-pressed for a few seconds, whatever command is highlighted gets executed).
My best bet would have been the update.zip as I created a signed update.zip with the missing file in it so it can put it back in its rightful place... but sd card in question appears to be the built-in sd card, and not the external (removable) sd card... the recovery tool doesn't even look in the external sd card for the update.zip
In Short: To get the file on the tablet, for now, the only way I can see how, is through adb, and seen as how USB Debugging was not enabled when the Grid was operational last time, I come here, to the XDA Forums, asking for advice.
The Question(s):
A) How do I turn on USB Debugging on the tablet so i can use adb and fix it?
or
B) Is there some alternative way for me to get the missing apk in system/app folder that does not require USB debugging?
Got you scratching your brain? Been trying to solve this for so long, I finished scratching mine, and started hitting it against the wall now!
I hate to tell you this man, but I am pretty sure that you messed up your tablet/bricked it.
Problem solved.
Not the USB Debugging thing, but I ended up fixing the tablet.
Can't disclose how I did it though... privacy issues.
So the system is fixed and the GirdOS is running perfectly on the Grid10, but I still can't use the tablet anyway, because of some kinda' server-side failure, because I need to register myself on the server before I gain access to any of the tablet's functions, while the server isn't responding to register my credentials... so yea... the tablet works, but it's still useless to me.
There's not much if any hope that the server will be fixed or get running anytime soon, because from the rumors/reports, FusionGarage (the producer of said tablet) has disappeared off the grid. Ironic, isn't it?
Maybe some day somebody will be able get ICS or Honeycomb running on the Grid10, and will share the knowledge-how with everybody.
I got one of those PBJ40 tablets too with 1366x768 , but no real android (just 2.1) on it.. do you mind sharing the one you got?
maybe you even have the Kernel source for this? could be nice having too
Dexter_nlb said:
I got one of those PBJ40 tablets too with 1366x768 , but no real android (just 2.1) on it.. do you mind sharing the one you got?
maybe you even have the Kernel source for this? could be nice having too
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Explain yourself please.
What is this android 2.1 you speak of? The Grid10 (aka PBJ40) comes with its custom OS called GridOS that's based on Android.
So what's the 2.1 android you have? Is it pre-upgrade GridOS or what? After the upgrade, GridOS's kernel was made into Gingerbread.
Ghoymakh said:
Explain yourself please.
What is this android 2.1 you speak of? The Grid10 (aka PBJ40) comes with its custom OS called GridOS that's based on Android.
So what's the 2.1 android you have? Is it pre-upgrade GridOS or what? After the upgrade, GridOS's kernel was made into Gingerbread.
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i guess hardware was tried sold to different parties, as mine is with Android 2.3 ( i made that ) but touchscreen is poor on this device, and Tegra2 got a tough time managing 1366x768 on it, compared to previous devices..
and lastly it was in development so drivers are not finished.
As your GridOS is 2.3 compatible it has a better kernel, and maybe a source for the kernel too, since i got no kernel source and no one that knows this hardware.
but maybe it'll show up with some totally different supplier, i seen talk on chinese forums where ppl compiles linux for it, so its still in the works.
Dexter_nlb said:
i guess hardware was tried sold to different parties, as mine is with Android 2.3 ( i made that ) but touchscreen is poor on this device, and Tegra2 got a tough time managing 1366x768 on it, compared to previous devices..
and lastly it was in development so drivers are not finished.
As your GridOS is 2.3 compatible it has a better kernel, and maybe a source for the kernel too, since i got no kernel source and no one that knows this hardware.
but maybe it'll show up with some totally different supplier, i seen talk on chinese forums where ppl compiles linux for it, so its still in the works.
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I see.
Looks like whoever made the PBJ40 (aka Grid10) also sold some of its stock to other companies, and since the 'other companies' don't have a dev. team to compensate for the lack of drivers for the Tegra2 (I heard they're going to release the drivers in some 2 months), they had to sell it with Android 2.1 (froyo) on it, with lots of problems like screen responsiveness, poor power management, and the like.
I'm also guessing that you do not have Market, Talk or GMail on your tablet... or at least, you didn't have it at first (doesn't take much skill to install them... the tablet comes rooted).
I'm also guessing you have a serious gestures issue, am I right?
Do you have the 40 pin USB cable? (or did yours come with a regular female USB port??)
... I might be of assistance, if you're able to make your dev skills work in your favor.
So help me help you...
The only way this will work, is if you're able to reverse engineer the GridOS to:
1) Extract the programming that's responsible for the gestures so we can install it on any other device (like your PBJ40, which doesn't have gesture support as advanced as the Grid10), to make the device easier to use.
2) Override the sign-up screen for the GridOS. In case you do not yet know, once you boot GridOS for the first time, you're taken to a setup page (much like the setup page of Windows) where you register yourself on the FusionGarage server (people who made the GridOS) to gain access to the tablet... for some time now, the FusionGarage server has been down, and since the company recently went under, there's no way the server will be fixed ever again, so even with linux kernel 2.3 (aka android gingerbread... without the market) you can't have any kind of access to the tablet, because you'd be unable to proceed form the sign-up page forward! So if you can find a way to over-ride the sign-up page or 'delete' it from the equation altogether, we both win!
So: I can provide you with GridOS kernel version 2.3 (not android... GridOS! It's basically the same, it just doesn't have the Market, and its UI is different... still very nice... I like it).
So... you can't install GridOS on your Froyo tablet (just yet), even if you had the 2.3 GridOS at your disposal, because you'd be stuck there.
So the question remains:
- Can you reverse engineer a linux OS that is android based (but not truly android) to extract from it the gestures program so you can make your PBJ40 more responsive?
- Can you somehow customize GridOS to delete the whole signup page issue?
Both of these things will help me a lot... but only the gestures-solution will be of help to you, unless you have the USB cable for the tablet.
If you PBJ40 is not a regular Grid10, I'd like to see it from all angles + a picture of its cables and chargers... if possible, please upload them to this thread.
For now, to make your life easier, install the program called zMooth from the Market. Its gesture responsiveness will be much better than the 2.1 Froyo version your tablet is now running.
"swipe left to go back, swipe right for menu, gesture a up-arrow(^) for home"
Look at the screenshots to better understand.
While setting up the program sensitivity level, keep in mind that the lower the level, the more sensitive (it's in fine print).
... let me know what you get!
PS: It might also be of help if you can somehow get the gesture program from ICS kernel and adopt it to PBJ40!
Could be we should continue this OT, in a private PM and maybe exchange mails
I think i can do most of it, I even have Android3.0 running on it, but again kernel needed changing since touch driver is not supporting the way 3.0 works.
but it works even with highres..
I do not have 2.1 on it, i ported a CM7/2.3.6 to it, and it worked 95%, some issues with DSP manager and movie codecs, but i did not put my 100% in it, since i was doing it all for fun and my own interest, since i could not share with anyone anyways as no one had it. That was until i saw the design of Grid10, i knew it was 99% like mine.. Flash11.1 works great for movie playback here though..
I got the 4leds on it too and mine has USB HOST/device switching only by compal (writers of many tablets today), but i found the USBUTG tool to use with it, to make switching easier, than doing it in a shell.
anyways, lets maybe continue by PM.. and we can maybe exchange "partitions"
My vow of secrecy has been lifted!
To Flash your Grid10 (aka PBJ40), follow this tutorial I made:
http://www.thejoojooforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=49654
There's also more info on the general forum (and one or two other tutorials/suggestions I've made that could prove to be of benefit to anybody with a Grid10): http://www.thejoojooforum.com/viewforum.php?f=17
Ghoymakh said:
My vow of secrecy has been lifted!
To Flash your Grid10 (aka PBJ40), follow this tutorial I made:
http://www.thejoojooforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=49654
There's also more info on the general forum (and one or two other tutorials/suggestions I've made that could prove to be of benefit to anybody with a Grid10): http://www.thejoojooforum.com/viewforum.php?f=17
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if you know how to use APX mode on it (Reset button on right side(if looking at front). I got android 2.3.6 (CM7) running on it, i think only difference is that i got 4 hardware button (soft light buttons on right side of tablet)
let me know, and i can maybe upload the kernel + system to a site.
I dnt even know what APX is!
I'm new to the android dev. scene, so i dnt know much yet.
I don't have much use for a Gingerbread ROM that's not going to be filly compatible with the Grid10. We don't have ANY buttons on our tablets.
To compensate for that, you might want to include the program Zmooth in the list of apps that the flashing-process will auto-install, so whoever flashes the CyanogenMod won't be left stranded without any buttons to use on the Grid10.
As mentioned in the flashing tutorial, V. is recompiling the original GridOS to make it skip the registration page, and it's Gingerbread too, one that's completely compatible with the tablet's specs, including gestures. It will be the GridOS as (previously) advertised by FusionGarage, only this time, no registration page, which means we can flash it and actually use it (up till now, whoever re-flashed or did a factory reset couldn't use their tablet because the registration could not be completed since the FG servers were down).
Maybe that could prove to be useful to you... I'll upload the file to the Grid10 forum once it's finished.
(i wonder if there's a way to open a Grid10 section in the xda forums...)
But what you have could be useful to somebody else out there!
How about you upload your files in Dropbox, and create a new thread on the above-linked forum, and share your ROM so other people might benefit from it.
https://www.dropbox.com/
Make sure you write your tablet's full specs, including the information about your soft and hard buttons, as our tablets have NO soft-buttons, and only have 2 hardware buttons: a power button and a reset button.
Edit: as the Grid10 doesn't have volume buttons, i don't think it's even capable of entering APX mode. It does have a recovery mode... but the only options in there are to factory-reset, delete cache partition, and install update.zip.
Ghoymakh: YOU ARE THE CLOSEST THING TO.... THX
Ghoymakh said:
My vow of secrecy has been lifted!
To Flash your Grid10 (aka PBJ40), follow this tutorial I made:
There's also more info on the general forum (and one or two other tutorials/suggestions I've made that could prove to be of benefit to anybody with a Grid10):
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I'm one of the fortunate-unfortunates.
I previously reset my G10 and it has been useless ever since. I did however purchase the USB adapter with my device and I'm looking forward to making use of your extensive research and hard work.
Again, thanks and I'll let y'all know how it goes (within the next 7 days or so).
Praise and thanks to you and everyone else out here.
G
Ghoymakh said:
Edit: as the Grid10 doesn't have volume buttons, i don't think it's even capable of entering APX mode. It does have a recovery mode... but the only options in there are to factory-reset, delete cache partition, and install update.zip.
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can you check when you got the tablet in front of you facing up. that on your right side a little hole is found just about center, 5-6cm above simcard slot (at least on mine simcard is on the right side)
if you turn it off, holding in the tap inside the small hole (you can feel the click when its pushed), press power and it goes into APX mode. but you will need the bootloader.bin to get it in full apx mode and ready to accept commands.
A small step for man.... My Grid10 is more than just a brick
- Using Ghoymakh's instructions from JooJoo Forum, I successfully flashed my Grid10 yesterday.
-- The identified 'tar' command didn't work on the compressed file but the Archive Mounter within Back Track worked just fine.
- Now, as time permits, I'm going to move forward and attempt to incorporate the Xmooth and Market.
-- If only I could get my JooJoo Forum account activated....
Again, Props to Ghoymakh, V, and any/all other contributors.
G
Hello,
I do hope my questions fit in here.
I recently bought the LC-Power MIRA-1 10.1" tablet. In google play it is called "unknown M105F"
the tablet has a 1,2 GHz A10 - ARM Cortex A8 CPU and a Mali 400MP GPU
i do have some experience with backup/root/uc&oc and even custom mods with my motorola defy phone (currently running cm7.2 stable)
when "playing" around with my defy i found it was sold in big numbers and is very well supported not only here but in any number of other communities. however, since my new tablet is pretty new to the market and no brand tablet, finding information on it is near impossible.
i do hope this will change in the future, especially since I really feel that my tablet is well suited for a number of tasks and with the price tag of ~150 EUR might even have a chance of finding its way in the hands of many people
anyway, even if the tablet is fine as it is now, it could be better. i am talking about modifications and this is what this thread is about.
1) BACKUP
in case i screw up, I really would love to have the possibility of resetting everything(!) back to factory defaults.
with my defy it is as easy as downloading the official sfb and flashing it with rsd lite
this wont work here for obvious reasons
is there a possibility to download the firmware to the pc (from the tablet) and later restoring it? probably not
so the only way left is nandroid backup?
easier said than done with a new device and without root...
also, i would very much prefer to have a backup without root / be sure to be able to remove all modifications i made like installing clockwork mod and rooting...
2) ROOT
for various reasons I'd like to have root. according to my information, rooting 4.0.4 is dependant on the device.
considering i have an unknown device, short of trying every possibility, what else could i do/try?
3) UNDERCLOCK/OVERCLOCK
I would LOVE to try to UC and OC the tablet. I know this might fail miserabely, but I could try.
IF i had root and any idea on how to find (again, short of trying every possible app) a working app.
any ideas?
4) GENERAL CUSTOMISATION
i learned that a well made custommod (like 7.2 for my defy) can make a huge difference in customisation and performance.
I would be willing to try a stable custommod but for now, I dont think that is viable since they usually are device specific.
So all I can do is use another launcher and hope for the best. I really like the performance, functions and especial the ability to customize the AWD Launcher that came with the cm7.2 for my phone.
According to google play the awd launcher is not compatible with my device. i cant imagine why, but there it is.
now, is there a way to still try it?
and what launcher comes closest to the performance, feel and customizability of the awd launcher (i do NOT care about special visual effects on which most launchers seem to concentrate)?
5) SIMILAR DEVICES
the best way to approach all those questions might be to find a (very) similar tablet and try to extrapolate answers from there onto my device.
however, I have no clue on how to figure out what chipset my tablet uses and what other information might be needed to try it that way
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thats it for now
any and all help will be appreciated!
thank you for reading this
Catwiesel
Hello
okay, I have some news...
since no one had anything to say I went ahead and started trying stuff out...
Apparently, the tablet is rooted by default (or my measurement of being rooted is wrong):
- when i run the app root checker, it says it is rooted
- when i run adb shell / su the prompt is root:directoy #
- i can create and delete files from /system/app
still, something is up...:
- using the adb shell i can create a file in /system/app (touch test.tst)
- if i try to delete/move anything in the adb shell from /system/app apparently the file can not be found
- it works in terminal emulator
- ive installed superuser, but have yet to see the "application asks for superuser rights"
- with the default file browser or es file explorer i can not get to / (stuck in /sdcard) EDIT: Resolved, layer8 problem!
ive also tried some overclocking apps
- they either do not go beyond 1.2ghz (stock) - the apps however is more or less to uc, not oc
- they crash the tablet even with 1248mhz - maybe the scaling gouvanours fault?
- underclocking seems to work (by accident i set the mhz from 1200 to 60 and well... it was SLOW)
i also found out some stuff (quick info system pro)
- ARMv7 processor rev 2(v71) (ARM Cortex A8 1,2GHz - at least according to the tech sheet at the manufactorer)
- sun4i
so, i wonder:
- is the tablet actually sold rooted? then why do i not get superuser permission popups?
- is my hardware not overclockable with (those) apps (i have) and/or do i actually need a custom kernel (ive read abput self compiled kernel for sun4i and another tablet)
ive gotta say, even with a bit of experience in android (acutally, very little) and a bit of linux (not too much, but decent enough) i am sorta confused
...not alone
I´d bought 2 devices LC Power Mira 2 yesterday...they should be delivered on friday...so hang on...you´re no longer alone...
It could be that the device is rooted...as far as I know...
Google runs some kind of an quality assurance by denying some "nobrand" manufactures the total Android 4.0 compatibility.
For an example the Arnova (Archon´s budget line) 10b G3 is running 4.0 but without the Play Store, ´cause the device is not fully supported as an "Quality Android 4.0 Device" and you have to use a custom rom on that tablet.
That´s one reason to spend 5 Euros more for the Mira2 which have it all onboard...or am I wrong...?
thearclight said:
I´d bought 2 devices LC Power Mira 2 yesterday...say should be delivered on friday...so hang on...you´re no longer alone...
It could be that the device is rooted...as far as I know...
Google runs some kind of an quality assurance by denying some "nobrand" manufactures the total Android 4.0 compatibility.
For an example the Arnova (Archon´s budget line) 10b G3 is running 4.0 but without the Play Store, ´cause the device is not fully supported as an "Quality Android 4.0 Device" and you have to use a custom rom on that tablet.
That´s one reason to spend 5 Euros more for the Mira2 which have it all onboard...or am I wrong...?
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Yes, indeed, at least the MIRA-1 tablet does come prerooted. This is of course nice (since I do not have to try root it myself) but also troubeling, since there is a good reason that android devices usually are not sold rooted. The bigger problem however seems to be that the superuser app is not working properly, i.e. I do not get the "this app is requesting superuser acess" question and probably for the same reason can not get my file browser (ES file browser) to go into the / directory.
what and if other apps could have trouble with the root access that apperently not every app is "finding" i dont know. i do hope not!
however, using the android sdk or shell emulator, all kinds of SU operations can indeed be executed.
concerning your google play store question (was it a question?), yes, the MIRA-1 tablet has google play installed and it can be used without any peticular limitation. its a safe bet that the mira-2 will be able to, too.
my experience with overclocking the tablet does not bode well. even a 48Mhz (smallest step) increase will freeze it. I have tried multiple apps.
i do not have any absolute answer so far. it could be that the oc apps have trouble with the root or are plain the wrong apps or simply that the cpu is already at its absolute limit and just can not be oced.
further investigation into this issue has revealed that apparently other tablets with similar hardware configuration may be able to overclock but apparently it would be neccesary to edit config files and with those compile the kernel. this is far beyond of what i can do and would be willing to do.
i am a bit sad about that, then yeah, the tablet is nice and good enough for me and worth the money, but a bit more speed could not hurt. it does happen that the tablet gets unresponsive for .5-1sec when browsing the web.
one last thought. the gpu does seem to be pretty "powerfull" (please, do not take me to literal.)
but i have yet to find any game that does not run smooth and looks good. according to my information i came across, the gpu is indeed well known for its good performance in 3d and full hd playback
(one exception. snes emulator is unplayable slow. but here i too blame the cpu, not gpu)
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...sounds good to the fact that I won´t expecting more for this price. Hey 157€ is´nt very much for an 10.1" tablet...
...I´d got also my LG P990 as Android device and smartphone...believe Me...I know what it means being betrayed...no updates...Tegra ? - nVidia ?...I don´t wanna talk about it...lol
It´s rooted and I never got problems with some apps about this fact...ok it´s still on 2.3...thanks LG, by pretending the update comes in May 2012...
I´d send an e-mail to the support of LCpower, by asking about an list of compatible 3g Sticks...10min. later...Answer and an Exel-file with the whole list...great service...´til now...
I just hope that I´d bought 2 "nice" family tablets for a few funny games, sometimes a movie, some social networking...nothing more.
Hope I did´nt misunderstood something here...
...is it only possible with another Explorer (like Astro and ES) to get to the files of an external SD Card or not ???
thearclight said:
...sounds good to the fact that I won´t expecting more for this price. Hey 157€ is´nt very much for an 10.1" tablet...
...I´d got also my LG P990 as Android device and smartphone...believe Me...I know what it means being betrayed...no updates...Tegra ? - nVidia ?...I don´t wanna talk about it...lol
It´s rooted and I never got problems with some apps about this fact...ok it´s still on 2.3...thanks LG, by pretending the update comes in May 2012...
I´d send an e-mail to the support of LCpower, by asking about an list of compatible 3g Sticks...10min. later...Answer and an Exel-file with the whole list...great service...´til now...
I just hope that I´d bought 2 "nice" family tablets for a few funny games, sometimes a movie, some social networking...nothing more.
Hope I did´nt misunderstood something here...
...is it only possible with another Explorer (like Astro and ES) to get to the files of an external SD Card or not ???
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well, the external sd card behaves a bit strange (at least for my understanding of android)
in short:
we have 2+1 memories in the tablet:
1 internal memory (small, i think 256mb, quite full with the android os and the apps)
1 other internal memory (the 8GB)
1 slot for the sd card, the +1 memory
now, everything begins at / (i figure this is the small internal memory)
the 2nd internal memory with 8gb is mounted under /mnt/sdcard and i believe /sdcard (where i would expect the sdcard!)
the sdcard itself can be found at /mnt/extsd
es file explorer has some trouble with that. if you launch it, it will start in /sdcard
since it does not recognize root, you can not go to /
since you cant type in the path by hand you can not go to /mnt
so apparently you cant browse the sd card with es file explorer (or i havent figured it out yet)
the preinstalled file explorer has no trouble with it at all. in fact, it even actually sends you to the right memory when you tap the corresponding symbols (as preinstalled file explorers go, it is actually not so bad)
ive tried setting up some symlinks but failed. maybe i did it wrong, maybe it just wont work.
another possibility to fix it could be editing fstab. but this could be dangerous and/or cause more problems then it helps
i filed that as a minor inconvenience to be adressed when im bored enough
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Ok...this means...that I just hope that the Mira2 is accepting my microSD16GB and I can use it quite as normal...
In 2.3 it´s still the structure: " /mnt ---> /mnt/sdcard ---> /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD"
Is this structure changed in 4.0 ?
thearclight said:
Ok...this means...that I just hope that the Mira2 is accepting my microSD16GB and I can use it quite as normal...
In 2.3 it´s still the structure: " /mnt ---> /mnt/sdcard ---> /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD"
Is this structure changed in 4.0 ?
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well on my mobile phone (motorola defy with cm7.2) i have /sdcard and /mnt/sdcard - actually being the sdcard
i also have /sd-ext which is empty
i dont know if that is the default for all android versions and/or if there are differences in sd-card mount points in android
however, the behaviour of the phone seems more logical (or its just that i am used to it)
whatever it is... the sd card of the tablet can not be accessed by /mnt/sdcard/ANYTHING
however, further research especially with the es file browser has shown that indeed you can browse the sd-card /mnt/extsd by switching the two in the favorites options.
so, maybe it makes sense, maybe it dont.
maybe its andorid 4.0.4 conform, or not.
what is important is that apps apparently dont mind (they do get installed on the 8gb internal memory mounted at /mnt/sdcard and /sdcard) and so far have yet to refuse to work/show strange behaviour
also, it is possible to move/copy etc files between /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/extsd and browse both directories, at least with the default android file explorer as well as es file browser.
So...a little update...the 2 devices are now in our hands...for about one week...
....and everything I can telling 'bout them...
,,.they're working great. Not a single bad issue, no freezes, and as far as we can see...
...for a price around 160€ there is no better tablet on the market.
Since yesterday I run the game Wild Blood (Unreal Engine 3 Game) which is most famous for an app who killed some tablets and phones...but nit the mira2 ...it's playable.
The device was also rooted "out of the box" but I can't find a single problem with the external SDcard or other USB Hosts I tested.
Sent from my MIRA-2 using xda app-developers app
Had the same issue thanks for the help guys