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[Q] Android recommendations for ATT

I personally think the HTC Inspire 4G is the best Android device out there on the ATT network, but was curious what the consensus is (if there is one). My son is interested in getting an Android soon and wants to know what the current top model is on ATT. Slightly related, are there any new models coming down the pike for ATT that might be worth waiting for?

Imspire is your best bet. My buddy tried the atrix and ended up with the inspire. Like i told him in the first place.
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The problem with the Inspire is that it is year behind. I bought one and ended up giving it to my son. It's not 4G. It's very slow browsing even slower than my Samsung Galaxy S. Also, it has no 2100 MHz band for Europe (if you travel there) and no front facing camera.
I'd wait for something better. I'm waiting for the Infuse which is due out any time.
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[Q] European(UK) sensation Vs Sensation 4G (US)

Since I live in the armpit of technology, NZ, I'm in the process of looking to source this phone abroad, just sold my desire HD for a great price here ( at least there is a benefit for living here -reselling value holds good) and was looking for the best place to buy the phone.
Boils down to US or UK.
If its the UK, then Clove.co.uk will be my first choice as they have done well by me before ( though they were expensive compared to the US , I had £ there, so used that first)
If I get the sensation 4G for vodafone here (2100 and 900MHz) am I likely to run into any issues.
or should I get it from the UK.
what are the differences between the models if any... can't find nowt anywhere comparing the models for any differences.... is it just a marketing difference ??
Damn those XDA videos are getting great !!!
Pier

not 100% sure but from the box shots I've seen of the released UK version and spy shots of the T-mobile US version, the only difference is in the 3G/UTMS frequency.
UK is 900/1700/2100
US is 1700/1900/2100
plehmann said:
Since I live in the armpit of technology, NZ, I'm in the process of looking to source this phone abroad, just sold my desire HD for a great price here ( at least there is a benefit for living here -reselling value holds good) and was looking for the best place to buy the phone.
Boils down to US or UK.
If its the UK, then Clove.co.uk will be my first choice as they have done well by me before ( though they were expensive compared to the US , I had £ there, so used that first)
If I get the sensation 4G for vodafone here (2100 and 900MHz) am I likely to run into any issues.
or should I get it from the UK.
what are the differences between the models if any... can't find nowt anywhere comparing the models for any differences.... is it just a marketing difference ??
Damn those XDA videos are getting great !!!
Pier
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I think the phones are identical except the US version has Tmobile bloatware.
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NardVa said:
I think the phones are identical except the US version has Tmobile bloatware.
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From what I understand T-Mobile is relatively good when it comes to bloatware. They have even released some phones with stock Android versus the version with the OEM's skin.
Not as good as the Vodafone version I'm guessing though and never as good as the sim-unlocked one but still I'm hoping it's not horrible.

I tend to get my phones from expansys.co.nz. However they don't have a price or availability yet.

1) Will there be a speed difference if used on Tmo US?
2) Will it be possible to flash the Rom from the Sensation 4G to the Sensation in the future for wifi calling?

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From what I understand T-Mobile is relatively good when it comes to bloatware.
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Oh, so not true. Some of the problems the G2X (O2X) are experiencing are being attributed to some of the T-Mobile apps. And that was supposed to be a "vanilla Google" phone. Their version will have a proprietary Wi-Fi Calling app that will no doubt interfere with SIP on the phone. You'll also be dependent on T-Mobile for updates which will always be slower than HTC direct. If you're going to root the phone and load custom ROMs this is of course mute.

[Q] Will One X ROMS work on the XL?

Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
HTC Tilt 2
Jackos EVO 1.7

mawoods75 said:
Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
HTC Tilt 2
Jackos EVO 1.7
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I really doubt it since the roms and kernels are made for different cpu/gpu's.
Not to mention that roms will have to take in consideration the different radios such as 4g.
So no

Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.

x3phyr said:
Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Different processor. The LTE isnt the issue. Its going from an Nvidia quad core 3 to a Qualcomm S4 Krait dual core. Completely different hardware that will require different drivers and paths.
Perhaps there will be a hellraiser package of some sort that will inject the drivers that we need, and be able to use, but the short answer is probably not at this time.

Hellraiser! That's exactly what I had in mind when I was saying what I did. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
However, I do hope a hellraiser kind of thing will released for the two.

Yep, different chipsets...no way they'll be compatible out of the box.

But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.

Thanks!
Thanks for all the responses... Really looking forward to this phone but may hold off just a tad to see how ROM dev goes. I purposely held off on the vivid waiting for some quad core goodness, so I am disappointed that AT&T is not getting the international version. But, I understand why.
Mark

vectorized said:
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE

rayford85 said:
All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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I find it slightly nonsensical that people are buying into the quadcore hype when Krait is faster than Tegra 3, clock for clock, core for core.

It bugs the crap out of me... really. That means that just because of that the US is going to lose some major development. and I don't know if that's worth another $300 out of my pocket...

I think people are missing something here, because in actuality development will be split upon two different fronts.
The One X will be an EU/Asia HSPA+ phone, but the One XL will be used internationally, with the only difference between each XL is the radio bands.

It doesn't matter there's still radio differences and processor differences. It's a completely different SoC. That makes it difficult to transpose between devices(I would assume).

I'm thinking the One X will get most of the dev support. One XL has to many strikes out the gate. One XL will probably have a later release date its going to be releaesd to a smaller portion of the world population.
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The problem is that the world is turning LTE into a major clusterfuck of radio bands to support, there's already 4 bands for GSM, 5 bands of WCDMA, and something like 4 bands of LTE in the US alone.
There's definitely a mess of bands in North America.
Verizon: 700 MHz - and their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
AT&T: 700 and AWS - their phones are GSM/HSPA/LTE triple
MetroPCS: 1900 and AWS - their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
Sprint (planned): 1900 including G-Block - their phones will be CDMA/LTE dual, with maybe one CDMA/Wimax/LTE hotspot
Note that the Verizon and AT&T 700 MHz LTE service is on different channels in 700 MHz, so they will not be compatible. Hooray.
Globally, LTE is expected be deployed on 38 different radio bands.

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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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If you're concerned about the lack of development (and dont care about LTE) this is the way to go. The X and XL will both be popular here at XDA, but for those of you that want the most popular/supported device you might want to think about the One X.
And yes, most One X chefs will eventually whip up an XL version of their build but my guess is it wont be right away..
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Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.

milkytron said:
Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
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We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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ZeroRilix said:
We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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NardVa said:
You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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I'd be willing to bet that the AT&T XL will be at least $650 off contract. That's what the Galaxy Note costs, and the XL is a better device.

[Q] T-Mobile What phones can I use...

OK, not even sure if this is the right place to post this question or not... But I am switching to T-Mobile (Small Business Plan $49.95 unlimited plan without phones) So I am buying my own phones.. I am trying to figure out what phones I can get that will do there 4G network, I think the network is HSPA+
I have been looking on eBay for phones, found a bunch of unlocked phones from over seas, just not sure as far as what ones will do the 4G, they list 2G and 3G and the different bands but have 4G in the title...
I am tired of big phones, I have the HTC Evo no, I want to go back to one the size of my old HTC Inc....
I wish there where career specific forums on here. Thanks for any help!!
Kyle

Most unlocked phones from overseas will not get AWS bands which t-mobile uses. The Galaxy Nexus will get 4G..but for the size you are looking for, I would go with an HTC Amaze. Make sure it is the T-mobile version.

lowandbehold said:
Most unlocked phones from overseas will not get AWS bands which t-mobile uses. The Galaxy Nexus will get 4G..but for the size you are looking for, I would go with an HTC Amaze. Make sure it is the T-mobile version.
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Thanks. I actually have my friends HTC Amaze phone that I was testing to make sure T Mobile service was better then Sprint in all the places I go (It is much better). It is a little big... The Samsung Blaze isn't to bad, but feels a little cheap...

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Thanks. I actually have my friends HTC Amaze phone that I was testing to make sure T Mobile service was better then Sprint in all the places I go (It is much better). It is a little big... The Samsung Blaze isn't to bad, but feels a little cheap...
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If you want a high quality decently specced phone, you aren't going to be able to find anything smaller than the amaze...

The Blaze seams pretty good as far as speeds go. The Amaze feels alot better because it is heaver... I guess worst case I could just go with the Blaze.. To bad I couldn't get one of those Casio G Shock phones to work 4G, that thing looks indestructible!!

I decided to go with the Samsung Exhibit ll, it looks about the same size as my old HTC inc

Getting One XL second hand

Hello to all,
My friend want to buy a one xl second hand and I want to know before getting the phone what are the particular things to this phone that need to be checked before
Also how can I check if the phone is not a fake or I don't know if even already exists a fake on the market, any guide will be welcome, I will meet today with the guy
Thanks,
Oh and I want to mention that he will use the phone on a GSM network and as the phone support it should be no problem
The guy mentioned that the phone was unlocked from his carrier, is there any problems that can occur here? let's say if I'm going to flash custom roms the phone get locked back? how can be unlocked?
thanks again

To tell you whether the phone will work on your friend's carrier, we would need to know what country you guys are in, and what version of the phone you are buying. If its a GSM system, the phone SMS, and WiFi should all work. But whether 3G and LTE will work, depends on whether your local carrier is compatible with the bands on the phone. Also, your carrier must offer MicroSIMs, as that is what the phone accepts. I believe any carrier that offers current versions of the iPhones or iPads should have MicroSIMs available.
Don't know if there are any counterfeits of the One X/XL that could really be passed off as the real thing. I think somebody posted a video of a phone that was supposed to be a clone of the One X, but it was a cheap piece of crap that could never be confused with the real thing (looked like cheap plastic, twice as thick, etc.). If you have seen/handled the phone in person, I doubt there would be a counterfeit that could be mistaken as real. The one piece polycarbonate body, gorgeous screen, and the general build quality are probably not going to be anywhere near matched by a cheap knockoff. If you haven't seen a One X/XL in person, least watch some videos of what the phone looks like.

Much appreciated your feedback, it is orange Romania, i don't know from where the phone is all he said it was unlocked to be able to use o any carrier on a service, I will check with my microsim if it works
Just a question, it is worth to change if the one xl is ok with my gnex?
Thanks again
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Based on this Romania uses GSM 900/1800 for Voice and EDGE data, and UMTS 2100 for 3G data. Those bands are extremely common, and used in most of Europe, and other parts of the world. Just about any version of the One X/XL should be compatible. You should be okay in this regard. But you may need to find your carrier's data network APN settings and enter them manually, in order for data to work. You should be able to find the APN settings for Orange Romania by Googling.
Never owned a GNexus, so can't personally say. The One XL has a better CPU, gorgeous screen, and beautiful build quality. I know folks on here have switched to the One X and love it, while others prefer the AOSP nature of the Nexus series, and the developer support. Whether its the right switch for you depends on your personal needs and preferences, budget, and how much a One XL would cost you.

Got the phone, seems good and my friend picked up, it is an international one x not one xl as I thought, phone is very nice
thanks for support