Safety hazard for milestone users - Milestone XT720 General

Hey guys you probably already know that the milestone tends to heat. Well i fell asleep the other day with my phone on charge and the wifi connected. The phone somehow ended up under my pillow and when i woke up the battery temperature read 68 degrees celsc. And the phone was so hot it was hard to hold, but running fine. I disconnected it and let it catch some air and the temperature dropped immediatly. But.. its only my guess, that doesnt sound very safe!
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whatt? isn't the phone supposed to turn off after 43 degrees or something???

IronMit said:
whatt? isn't the phone supposed to turn off after 43 degrees or something???
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nope, i don't think there is such a feature
i've several phones, all of those i've pushed it past 50c either due OC or as above battery charging meanwhile doing lots of 3G or WiFi and it heats up reallly fast
but they seems to stay under 70c
the highest i've seen was 68c on a Samsung Galaxy S
i've seen it at 60c several times in the XT720 with OC and Wifi
but rules of thumb... keep the phone below 50c to prevent damage to the phone

I though hot batteries is only a feature on the knock off phones. Did not know Motorola offers this with the locked boot loader.

Also to help prevent that from happening again, i will suggesting getting the SetCpu app, where you can set temp profiles. (if you don't already have that)

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[Q] Safest Max Battery Temparature?

Many users may find their phone gets quite hot, thankfully Aluminium is a heat conductor and dissipates the heat in the cold air but Sensation owners may find the phone can feel quite hot at the back and possible the screen feeling hot too.!
So far while gaming for about 10-15 minutes, I have had my temperature reach 46 degrees celsius.(~115 Fahrenheit)
I think the failsafe temperature maybe around 52 degrees Celsius(~125 Fahrenheight)
Anyone know what the failsafe temperature is or what should be the highest safe temperature?
how hot has your device gone?
Highest temps i got was around 41 degrees Celsius, this was while playing gameloft games (heavy 3d graphics).
could be charging and gaming same ime causing 45.9 degrees celsius
1 hour gaming (galaxy on fire ) and at the same time charging and i guess wifi was also enabled and the highest which I saw was about 45.8
Spoke to HTC
normal operating temperature is 30°c to 40 °c
Anything upto 50°c is safe and erl not harm the device
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I managed 46.4 last week.
Anyone think they can beat that? If not, what do I win?
was charging the battery and concurrently doing a large file copy (about 5Gb) to the SD card - on my widget monitor - temp went up to about 50C, phone body was getting noticably hot and there was some distortion on the screen (multicolour "snow" on some of the widgets).
finished the xfer - shutdown phone for about 15 mins to let it cool down - haven't had the same problem since (altho I haven't done such a large file xfer again either)
ikhzter said:
Spoke to HTC
normal operating temperature is 30°c to 40 °c
Anything upto 50°c is safe and erl not harm the device
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Well, i'd like to keep it below 37 at all times. After having mobo in Desire replaced which had heat issues (just look up desire overheating and rebooting), i'm very cautious regarding temperatures.
Had mine up to 48 degrees while it was in my pocket, best thing is I didn't feel a thing till I took it out and damn... way too hot =S
Mine was at 55oc whilst charging overnight once. Still fine though, although I suspect there is something wrong with my battery. 4/5hrs mild use took me down to 55%!
eXceed said:
Mine was at 55oc whilst charging overnight once. Still fine though, although I suspect there is something wrong with my battery. 4/5hrs mild use took me down to 55%!
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You should check battery information in spare parts. Check if it says battery health overheated instead of good.
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That was a few days ago, battery health now says good but at the time it said overheated :S.

[Q] HTC sensation Overheating issue

Hello I ve seen some threads concerning this issue already but I couldnt get clear idea of the allowed temp of the sensation, some people said anything above 40 is dangerous and should return the phone, some said above 50 and while other said above 60....I get around 34~37 on average and have seen 45 with GPS, web browsing, games..is this normal? and does putting the sensation in a case bad for overheating problem? I use the case mate..maybe it traps heat slowing down the cooling...
I don't know about the actual temperature but I do agree that something is wrong. Yesterday I was charging my phone in the car while using Nav and I had the screen set at full brightness. The phone got extremely hot and the screen automatically lowered it's brightness to the lowest setting. I'm not sure if the heat built up is coming from the backlight, or the battery or what. I was thinking about returning mine, but from the sounds of it they are all having this issue.
My build date is 6/2/11. Can anyone confirm if the newer builds still have this issue?
hmm the temperature has to do with the battery I am going to see if I could get my battery replaced and see if anything changes...
takgeun68 said:
hmm the temperature has to do with the battery I am going to see if I could get my battery replaced and see if anything changes...
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well from my experiences with battery that they do get warm when you are charging them, i have tested my phone when charging and it does get warm but playing games and everything else i dont feel anything that crazy.
which model are you taking about the 4G or non 4G??
Mine does not get hot from charging, it gets hot from playing games..that when my phone gets over 40...and my phone is T-mobile 4g
ive caught mr sensation getting as high as of 47 in a hot car hooked up to my car stereo playing Slacker Radio for 30 minutes. It burnt my hands holding it and one time i was wearing my thin shorts and i accidently left slacker radio on ( most used app ) and it actually left a red outline of the phone on my leg!
I noticed overheating issue specially whenever brightness set to higher. Even automatic mode heat is there. I wrote to HTC customer service, they replied, it's normal !!!
kamrul.auntu said:
I noticed overheating issue specially whenever brightness set to higher. Even automatic mode heat is there. I wrote to HTC customer service, they replied, it's normal !!!
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hopefully they can fix this.
From my experience all recent smartphones get hot charging them with the screen on for extended periods...mine also gets quite hot after a while but its not an issue as far as I'm concerned.
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Haven't noticed any very hot issues with the Sensation since I bought it June 17th.

Severe overheating?

Hey guys,
This last week has been absolutely brutal in the northeast us. We've had high 90s pretty much everyday. [Especially in the car] my g2x has been suffering from "random reboots" running fauxs 1.2.8 and kernel 0.3.2. It was a new phenomenon, I thought it was the DS kernel I had rather than CM7, but all that did was affect battery life.
I finally was using my device when it decided to "turn off" and the screen just kept turning off ( less and less time being on, fractions of seconds.) Then it just stays off and the battery temp reads 100+° at turn offs.
It requires a battery pull to turn back on ( and I guess turn off) but the heat doesn't seem to come from the battery, but behind the camera, im thinking processor.
Could it be from the OC/UV kernel. I had on? It's on standard now.
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OC'ing can easily overheat/fry the processor (hence why there's always large warnings around it), especially if the kernel hits a race condition or similar.
The phones are passively cooled. and the radios in the phone heat up the phone when used heavily. I have not had anyphone that didnt get extrememly hot while it is using the radio when its in above 80 degrees ambient temperature and overclocking would just add to this. luckily most have a feature ot turn off the phone at a certain temp to protect the hardware. But I dont think this is a specific g2x problme my old droid does the same thing.
I took mine to a pool in Vegas. It was probably about 90 degrees. I had it under my lounge chair shaded listening to music. It had a heat stroke after about an hour.
I understand why/how overheating can be caused by oc but honestly if its not running at stock (or benchmarking) I have it set to 800mhz by default- its still fast as hell. It hasn't overheated in the last few days, but the problem was that even if I don't use it, it'll overheat.
I use juice defender to keep my radio off when the screens off, so I can't even lay blame to that.
I haven't really dove into undervolting, but in theory wouldn't lower voltage equate to less residual heating?
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mine does this running stock. Mostly when I have the charger plugged in and am still doing something. It will be taking a charge but the batery level will still slowly fall, once it gets below a certain point it gets really hot behind the camera and the screen starts locking and unlocking. faster and faster until you finally have to pull the battery and let it cool down a while.
YES!!!! I have 2 G2x that do this, and a guy at work has one. All stock phones, and can be doing NOTHING - gets hot near the camera lens, and LOCKS!!!! Have to pull the battery. I pull the battery for 1 second, re-install, and G2x works fine. I know of 3 G2x, and all do this. I can't believe I don't see more of this on this forum. T-Mobile has a "discussion number" on this: 265747. LG claims ignorance. I'd love to know how to "fix" this. I'd also like to know if GB fixes this.
The occasional re-boots are live-able - this lock up is NOT.
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YES!!!! I have 2 G2x that do this, and a guy at work has one. All stock phones, and can be doing NOTHING - gets hot near the camera lens, and LOCKS!!!! Have to pull the battery. I pull the battery for 1 second, re-install, and G2x works fine. I know of 3 G2x, and all do this. I can't believe I don't see more of this on this forum. T-Mobile has a "discussion number" on this: 265747. LG claims ignorance. I'd love to know how to "fix" this. I'd also like to know if GB fixes this.
The occasional re-boots are live-able - this lock up is NOT.
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I can verify this is an issue with my phone as well! It was happening all the damn time in both stock Froyo and EaglesBlood Froyo, but as soon as I went to CyanogenMod 7 RC1, I haven't had it happen once.
And to those of you who haven't had this happen, it's like the Sleep of Death + your phone gets REALLY hot by the camera lens and it keeps draining the battery and putting out TONS of heat until you do a battery pull. It brought my battery from 100% to 25% in like 30 minutes of doing this.
But CM7 seemed to solve the issue. No more SOD+heat!
This problem has been driving me absolutely insane. My wife and I both got g2x's at the dame time (new from tmobile), and hers rarely does this, while mine does it continually. I was wondering if it was related to the case we have - but we both have the same case - the speck one sold at tmobile.
My wife and I both have the little rubber buggy baby bumper condom case thing that does cover the back - that would reduce heat dissipation. I often carry mine in a belt case that came with the phone from CostCo - she almost never uses that case.

Device getting way to hot!!!

I've gone to using my spare xperia x10 mini pro now cause I've found while i'm out an about with my sidekick it will randomly get really hot an I don't mean like kinda hot i mean like feels like someone poured a cup of hot coffee onto thigh! The device hasn't been abused or dropped an its always had a tendency of getting warm at random it seams on all firmware versions. The only thing I can think of is possibly a issue with the phone connecting an unconnected often with the Bluetooth in my kia soul.
Now before you ask why I'm bringing this up now I had a none android samsung memoir befor this phone an it would get warm while GPS was enabled. Though in the sidekicks case it does it no matter what things are enabled or disabled x.x
So anyone else notice thier sidekick getting warm? with mine it seams like its something in the actual phone getting hot that in turn heats the battery up cause its around the DEL key on the keyboard.
are you running a 1.2 ghz kernel?
are their any wifi connections/bluetooth connections or any data transfer in the background that could cause your phone to clock itself @1ghz or above?
do you have any apps that run in the background (beyond the stock rom) while you are not using your phone?
your cpu could just be getting hot from background app usage while running @ the max cpu clock speed or overclock speed if you're on a overclock kernel.
The phone has never been overclocked an its done it totaly box stock with no wifi,gps,bluetooth activated an no data being used an has done this aswell with any connections enabled or doing transfers over blue tooth though since day one i do get a FC buzz when it first starts up but doens't say whats FC'd also notice when its getting hot that the battery amount is getting discharged by 10/20%
Hopefully it never got overcharged, or undercharged...
Have you ever turned it on after it turned off from 0% batt (or done this multiple times), I know that Lithium Ion batts have issues (I think it is 15% on the battery, but as 0% to the phone) if they go below 15% (0% in the meter) they will loose the ability to work correctly from then on out...
Calibration ever done at "NOT 100%", so it might think that 100% is 90% (or more) and try to keep charging?
Do you not charge it every night? (I have always charged all LiIon batts every night [mostly] and I have yet to run into issues with ANY batt.)
best to charge the battery with the cover off takes heat away from it
the odd part is that the battery never is warm while charging stays at normal operating temp for a happy battery. Now what I'm thinking is the battery is actually getting warm from something in the phone itself an transfering the heat towards the battery. An this phone has gotten warm like this even when it was less then a month old on box stock none rooted firmware of all types x.x

Question Pixel 6a overheats only in first few weeks, or indefinitely?

Many complain that the Pixel 6a gets hot or overheats. I have also seen videos were people claim it's only in the beginning while the phone "learns" your usage habits and how to optimize itself accordingly. But later on it doesn't need to run all of its processes like in the beginning once it figured you out, so to speak. (The exception being when you record a 1080 video at 60 frames, which even later on can get problematic.)
Can Pixel 6a users chime in here and recount their experiences? Does the overheating last past the first few weeks after purchasing it?
Bonus question: are the signal issues some complain of widespread, or not?
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I really want to get this phone, but I hesitate due to these two issues.
I didn't have overheating issues since I bought the phone 3 months ago.
dudaka said:
I didn't have overheating issues since I bought the phone 3 months ago.
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Even from day one?
xda-eh said:
Even from day one?
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Yup
I have my 6a 2 weeks and I don't have any issues with overheating or bad signal.
Thanks.
Anyone else?
Overheating in the sense that it shuts down with a warning? No, never. But the phone does get annoyingly hot, especially when charging even if I'm not using it at all. That's the phone plus the weather in my country isn't helping. Phone regularly touches 40° according to battery guru, when charging can go up to 43°.
On WiFi things are very normal. Mobile data however is a very different animal. It you have poor signal especially expect this to get pretty hot. Like stated above though, not shut down hot just hotter than what I consider normal. 35-40c battery temps on stock with those conditions isn't unusual.
Initial setup for sure gets toasty as well.
For whatever reason (latest updates maybe?), I've noticed recently that not only does my 6a not overheat, but the battery consumption has dropped significantly. At my admittedly low level of active usage I can easily go two days and still be over 50%. I might try for three full days soon.
I dont have any problems with overhiting , i have phone about 30 days. Playing games recording at 4k no heat problems at all.
Damn bruh...another 'overheating' thread?
Yes. The 6a may get fairly warm in some specific use cases, but it doesn't actually overheat as in start throwin' out warning messages and start throttling or worse, crash/reboot that I've ever witnessed. Actually mine seems to run slightly 'less warm' since A13's beta 2 & 3...just before I flashed a custom kernel. A few things to consider besides differing usage scenarios. If you're using a case, it may not only hinder cooling a little but probably 'feels' less warm due to the insulating properties as well. I try to go with a minimalistic case...it may not provide a lotta cushion if dropped but I'm hoping the improved grip offsets that point. And ofc the thinner the skin to less it retains heat. I went with a grippy Spigen Liquid Air or something like that.
Above all, I keep in mind that the 6a has the same processor as the [email protected] P6 PRO and that also helps me to forgive n forget that it can get toasty at times...plus thst resulting Tensor 'grin-factor' tho...
...just my 2 centz ofc
If you're using mobile data or using the phone as a hotspot thing gets very warm.
Normally, I've only experienced the phone getting very warm when I'm playing a game and charging the phone at the same time. However, on a recent trip to a foreign country, my phone (and its camera) stopped working because it was hot outdoors (around 80°F) and I was outside for 30min or longer. My friends' iphones didn't overheat though.
I haven't experienced any signal problems.
Mine never overheats. Its just warm enough to be a hand warmer, but not enough to damage anything
neo_lithic3K said:
Normally, I've only experienced the phone getting very warm when I'm playing a game and charging the phone at the same time. However, on a recent trip to a foreign country, my phone (and its camera) stopped working because it was hot outdoors (around 80°F) and I was outside for 30min or longer. My friends' iphones didn't overheat though.
I haven't experienced any signal problems.
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...and it displayed an overheat popup warning? 'cuz it was 80F outside? I've been out with my 6a dozens of times in 80F+ weather and NEVER had my phone throw an overheat warning much less shutdown or lock up. You might have something wrong with ur phone if a warm day kills ur phone...js
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...and it displayed an overheat popup warning? 'cuz it was 80F outside? I've been out with my 6a dozens of times in 80F+ weather and NEVER had my phone throw an overheat warning much less shutdown or lock up. You might have something wrong with ur phone if a warm day kills ur phone...js
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No overheat warning. Phone felt very warm, froze up and apps would barely respond or it would keep on rebooting. Tried a few times to power off, wait a minute, and then power on to get that last photo, but didn't work. After I got out of the heat for a short time, phone went back to normal. Felt hotter like 95 degrees, but weather report said 80s.
Nothing wrong with my phone per se. My guess is that my phone was in direct sunlight for 30 min. I myself was dying from the heat. And before that, I was already taking pictures on and off for an hour (in the heat but not direct sunlight). I've used the phone before in hot weather without issue, but this time around, it was continued use and in direct sunlight.
My 6a definitely overheats and shuts down sometimes without warning. This has happened numerous times even when the phone is having light use (chrome or connected to android auto). I would say there are 2 factors. When the outside temperature is hot (35c or hotter - which currently in Australia is a daily occurance) and when the signal is not strong (also a very common occurrance here) - when this happens the phone can overheat and shutdown within minutes even with little use.
From my exp. signal strength seems to be the biggest issue. The pixel seems to literally burn through the power when signal is weak and get hot.
Generally I have had a 50% chance of getting a 'Your phone is hot' warning - other times it just turns off.
savanne said:
My 6a definitely overheats and shuts down sometimes without warning. This has happened numerous times even when the phone is having light use (chrome or connected to android auto). I would say there are 2 factors. When the outside temperature is hot (35c or hotter - which currently in Australia is a daily occurance) and when the signal is not strong (also a very common occurrance here) - when this happens the phone can overheat and shutdown within minutes even with little use.
From my exp. signal strength seems to be the biggest issue. The pixel seems to literally burn through the power when signal is weak and get hot.
Generally I have had a 50% chance of getting a 'Your phone is hot' warning - other times it just turns off.
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You should RMA the phone. Sounds like a faulty device to me.
Also, just hot ambient temp does nothing to a phone. If it gets direct sunlight, thats unsafe for the device because of how hot it can get (if you measure temp in your car, it gets up to 60-70C+ easily.) If I use my car in hot sun, I aim an AC vent to its back and then the phone is super chill all through the ride.
h8Aramex said:
You should RMA the phone. Sounds like a faulty device to me.
Also, just hot ambient temp does nothing to a phone. If it gets direct sunlight, thats unsafe for the device because of how hot it can get (if you measure temp in your car, it gets up to 60-70C+ easily.) If I use my car in hot sun, I aim an AC vent to its back and then the phone is super chill all through the ride.
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Yes, I think I will RMA it. - I don't agree re ambient temp. My phone certainly seems to shut down more often when the ambient is hotter. Also, re the car. I had the phone in the glove box which is separately cooled to 21c and even then it would overheat, - I suspect related to poor signal. But yes - will RMA it.
Try safe mode first. You may have an app which is misbehaving. I've never had my 6a overheat, it will sometimes get a bit warm when charging, but that's it.

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