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Moto Cliq/XT

Ive had a G1 for over a year and rooted it pretty much as soon as i got it.Loaded a bunch of roms and programs for it. But I recently bought a Cliq from a friend and ive noticed there is very little development going on for the Cliq. Is it because of the Blur software? I know ive seen a Blur rom for the G1, is it more difficult to port from the G1 to the Cliq?

Only thing I know is that Motorola has stated they will be updating the Cliq to Android 2.1+ (maybe Froyo 2.2?) either May or June (so very soon). Froyo is supposed to solve the issue of interfaces being tied to the OS (like MotoBlur, HTC SenseUI, etc.) so the OS can be updated without affecting the interface.

Moto has made it very hard to develop for. They have a ton of locks in place and it makes it difficult to hack. The guys at ModMyMoto.com are working on roms and things, but its hard because of the lack of drivers and things like that.

It's also hard for the guys over there due to a lack of developers. You have Handler working on his own ROM and you have KB7SQI working on a different one. Another huge problem is that it's still running 1.5, and not 2.1 yet, this is also driving alot of would-be developers away because nobody wants to work with an old, slow version of the OS.
Also, the Moto locks in place and lack of drivers, however the drivers thing I think can be fixed with a few more hard working Developers.

Its all about hunting and pecking. Trial and error. Developers get frustrated and then they give up on it. Its sad because the hardware is good and the design of the phone is great.

shadowofzeus said:
Its all about hunting and pecking. Trial and error. Developers get frustrated and then they give up on it. Its sad because the hardware is good and the design of the phone is great.
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yeah i like the phone alot, i havent had any issues at all with the phone. It just sucks going from a phone like the g1 with tons of development,to the cliq with pretty much only 2 roms. dont get me wrong,i seriously appriciate Handler and kb7sqi working on the roms along with eugene,thedudes and many others,(sorry if ive missed anyone). I wish it was as easy as modding Rzrs back in the day with monsterpacks.

Those guys work really hard. It is sad that they can't get much further then they have.

shadowofzeus said:
Those guys work really hard. It is sad that they can't get much further then they have.
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I think(hope),they are waiting for Android 2.1 for the Cliq to come out before doing anything else,but Moto is taking forever.The biggest deal was being able to root Blur 1.4.8,but they got it done. I hope once 2.1 comes out there wll be more development or more people wanting to develop it.

Tabasco1TX said:
yeah i like the phone alot, i havent had any issues at all with the phone. It just sucks going from a phone like the g1 with tons of development,to the cliq with pretty much only 2 roms. dont get me wrong,i seriously appriciate Handler and kb7sqi working on the roms along with eugene,thedudes and many others,(sorry if ive missed anyone). I wish it was as easy as modding Rzrs back in the day with monsterpacks.
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where and how did you get those 2 roms aor the cliq xt...i have it as a back up phone...but what the hell might of have a nicer back up...lol...if you could help me out i would greatly appreciate it...REALLY...thanks in advance...and im not one of them people who just ask for everything....i hav looked ALLTHROUGH XDA...AND GOOGLED EVERYTHING...sry for caps...but really they were needed...lmao...iconly...thanks if you want we can talk here or PM each other...thanks again.... ;-)

Has Development slowed down!

Is it me or has development slow down a bit! It seems it started out strong and lately we haven't seen much aside from Faux and CM updating their ASOP roms.
I mean we don't really have any themers either! I know if I could I would make some!
Coming from the Vibrant there was a lot of themes and dev going on!
Now I know it's been less than two months, but the way it started out I thought we would have more going on!
I guess maybe everyone is waiting on the GB update when ever we get it!
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we waiting 2.3
gonna be here on 06/16/11

I hope GB gets here on 6/16 that would be the best B-day present I could get lol

I have a replacement unit coming the 22nd, I hope it comes with 2.3 already in it!
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There are lots of themes. CM7 uses T-Mobile themes and they are downloadable in the market.
No reason to mod stock unless you install the cm theme support.
LG G2x CM7 2.3.4

couple things.
waiting for the gingerbread source from lg to insure everything needed will work. and dont want to release a rom at this point where i cant tell if reboots , wifi, 4g(whre it shuts down than takes a while to start again), as well as gps.
when these features are working on the phone as should than ill start the rom, but no care to spend days trying to figure out why something doesnt work when its the darn baseband that i cant mess with.
themes. the theming engine has taken over unfortunately. it does theme and is a lot easier for the themers(after they learn it) since 1 theme works on all roms. but its just not like the old days where every app was themed and such. some have taken time to write scripts and such so they can make a better more inclusive theme with it , but most of the themes for it are color changes and icons not full themes with every app themed as we were use to . I know several of the themes that are on my rom for the droid would never be able to be as complete through the theming engine. but it does ok just different. and does enable many more themes available to all roms. and its not like a this or that themes can still be made the old way. but with the old way you need to update the theme with every new build(framework) of the rom so since these roms are in constant change at this point i dont think many are spending time theming it. especially froyo.

Honestly I can't speak for everyone but I have to many projects going on and I don't want to release buggy roms to you guys. I have not stopped working but I would love to see 2.3 drop as it would be (hopefully) more stable in general as they had time to get the bugs out.
Look at it like this the more time we have to spend working on battery drivers the less time we have making good roms. LG did not tell even close to the truth as this was supposed to be a true google experience (MY ASS IT IS) so we already had to spend countless hours removing BS they left it from the O2X.
Anyways look for more stuff soon I am sure as currenlty I am working on my rom again and I know of other hidden stuff getting done. (sorry can't say what all it is yet)
Later.

tweezit said:
Honestly I can't speak for everyone but I have to many projects going on and I don't want to release buggy roms to you guys. I have not stopped working but I would love to see 2.3 drop as it would be (hopefully) more stable in general as they had time to get the bugs out.
Look at it like this the more time we have to spend working on battery drivers the less time we have making good roms. LG did not tell even close to the truth as this was supposed to be a true google experience (MY ASS IT IS) so we already had to spend countless hours removing BS they left it from the O2X.
Anyways look for more stuff soon I am sure as currenlty I am working on my rom again and I know of other hidden stuff getting done. (sorry can't say what all it is yet)
Later.
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cant tell us what it is geez well will it be out "by summer"

eagle1967 said:
cant tell us what it is geez well will it be out "by summer"
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LMAO I will give you a LG and T-mobile response.. It will be out before summer but that could be sometime before 2020
Seriously I wasn't trying to get your hopes up for one thing but just getting you guys to understand alot goes on behind the scenes and no one is quitting on you guys

yeah i know
tweezit said:
LMAO I will give you a LG and T-mobile response.. It will be out before summer but that could be sometime before 2020
Seriously I wasn't trying to get your hopes up for one thing but just getting you guys to understand alot goes on behind the scenes and no one is quitting on you guys
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i was gonna do a quick port of my rom for my own use but when i looked at the source code for g2x froyo-- it appears al they did was remove the instruction sets for the overlay of the o2x all that crud is in the framework and elsewhere and just seemed like to much hassle, so waiting for the gb and hopfully a more stable driverset and baseband.
or keep the life i actaully have now that was non existant for the 9 months i developed for the droid 1
maybe ill just leave it up to you

eagle1967 said:
or keep the life i actaully have now that was non existant for the 9 months i developed for the droid 1
maybe ill just leave it up to you
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Personally I say the more the merrier as I really do care about the end users. I hope to see more people jump in even if it is only a rom modded by adding removing a few things as everyone has to start somewhere.
Anyone can use my rom as a base all I ask is some credit or atleast send me a pm.
And I will always try to answer any questions as long as I got the time

too true
tweezit said:
Personally I say the more the merrier as I really do care about the end users. I hope to see more people jump in even if it is only a rom modded by adding removing a few things as everyone has to start somewhere.
Anyone can use my rom as a base all I ask is some credit or atleast send me a pm.
And I will always try to answer any questions as long as I got the time
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more options are good.
my rom was called sourcery so it kinda had to be from source
i am not with the co0developer of that anymore so id have to comeup with another cool name. but still rather do from source than others base , but might use lg gb as a base if they release it.(hopefully without all the o2x crud) or let us make use of it 1 or the other.
but yeah all the initial launch build was is a o2x froyo themed rom.
have you played around with the animated pull down stuff. looks kinda cool and on the g2x it shouldnt hurt performance much. kinda something new.

I would love to see another rom made from source. I have been working on a 2.2 from source but not even close to being release ready as buggier then crap
Anyways I am sure the crack flashers would love another rom to try out

2.2.2
tweezit said:
I would love to see another rom made from source. I have been working on a 2.2 from source but not even close to being release ready as buggier then crap
Anyways I am sure the crack flashers would love another rom to try out
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2.2.2 i think is not as stable as 2.2.1 i lost 200 on quandrant with it not sure why but from 2.2.1 same rom same mods.
Over all its ok. i released the 2.2.2 rom 3 days after the source was released. did a serious rebuild from scratch since i was about ready to release the 2.2.1
i remember i had a couple bugs i had to figure out that werent on 2.2.1 but i forget what they were .
you have any questions or need a little help drop me a pm.
ill help where i can.
this is a link to my rom since i think only people on verizon have ever heard of it
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sourcery-rom/

@tweezit I for one appreciate all the work you guys put into supporting this phone. I know it takes a lot of time and hard work. If seems some of us are impatient it's only because we are. Seriously, you are making a great device better and I thank you for it.
@Eagle1967 Just checked your Rom out and I would love to see a port...really slick stuff there...great app inclusions and love the blue/black theme.
I'm wading into this myself...been playing around with it but any kind of release is at least a couple month away...if ever. Really makes me appreciate what you guys do.

thanks
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@tweezit I for one appreciate all the work you guys put into supporting this phone. I know it takes a lot of time and hard work. If seems some of us are impatient it's only because we are. Seriously, you are making a great device better and I thank you for it.
@Eagle1967 Just checked your Rom out and I would love to see a port...really slick stuff there...great app inclusions and love the blue/black theme.
I'm wading into this myself...been playing around with it but any kind of release is at least a couple month away...if ever. Really makes me appreciate what you guys do.
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when i started i knew nothing. i started in august last year was late september before i actaully got my first build that completed and installed and ran and first release was on christmas so took a long time but i started with no knowlege of any of it. still not always sure what i do to make it work it just does
yeah it took 9 months of my life part of the reason i stopped(part ).. but it was fun and made me feel like i accomplished something. i cant believe how popular the rom still is since i havent really done anything with it since febuary but it was the first custom rom with froyo 2.2.2 and actually was for quite a while until some gave up on gingerbread and went back i think there is still only 1 other 2.2.2 rom for the droid though.
if you have any questions feel free to pm me. ill help you out if i can.

Miui Rom!

I have been looking at the fascinate forum and noticed they have a new Miui rom that has more functions closer to a fully functional rom than they ever have. I was hoping someone could port this to the mesmerize
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120371&page=1

Trust me, I've had my eye on Andmer's twitter since Friday when he started it. I've got a thing or two I need to do tonight, but hopefully I can get this ported tonight.
EDIT: There *will* be stuff broken with it; anything that's broken with the Fascinate ROM will be broken with any Mesmerize port. They're still working on it (Andmer and JT1134), so it's still listed as an alpha, but enough people clearly want it.

ChromWolf said:
Trust me, I've had my eye on Andmer's twitter since Friday when he started it. I've got a thing or two I need to do tonight, but hopefully I can get this ported tonight.
EDIT: There *will* be stuff broken with it; anything that's broken with the Fascinate ROM will be broken with any Mesmerize port. They're still working on it (Andmer and JT1134), so it's still listed as an alpha, but enough people clearly want it.
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So i what all is there that you have to do to port over a rom?

As I understand it, very little. Edit some framework stuff and the build.prop to identify as a US Cellular/Mesmerize device rather than Verizon/Fascinate. That's largely cosmetic. Remove the SMS padding the Verizon does, and that's more or less it.
As I say, I should be able to get it tonight.

ChromWolf said:
As I understand it, very little. Edit some framework stuff and the build.prop to identify as a US Cellular/Mesmerize device rather than Verizon/Fascinate. That's largely cosmetic. Remove the SMS padding the Verizon does, and that's more or less it.
As I say, I should be able to get it tonight.
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sweetness i cannot wait! my friend has Miui for his Evo and i love how it is layed out. I just need the steps to install it so i dont screw it up when its available

Ive been wanting to learn how to port roms. just no one has really explained to me on how this whole process goes

veteranmina said:
Ive been wanting to learn how to port roms. just no one has really explained to me on how this whole process goes
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"Porting ROMs" and "Porting ROMs from the Fascinate" are two different animals. Porting from the Fascinate is pretty easy once you have the steps (at least as I understand it), but everything gets ported over pretty quickly so no one really bothers to post the steps for it.
Porting ROMs from other phones, on the other hand, is a much more complicated process, often involving editing the source code before compiling it into the ROM. There really isn't a straight-forward step-by-step process to follow.
That's really why no one's posted the instructions.
I could I suppose, but I've only poked at it once or twice. I generally know how to do it, but I suspect I'll still be having one of the experts check my work. Still, one more thing off their plates, and MIUI that much sooner for us.

ChromWolf said:
"Porting ROMs" and "Porting ROMs from the Fascinate" are two different animals. Porting from the Fascinate is pretty easy once you have the steps (at least as I understand it), but everything gets ported over pretty quickly so no one really bothers to post the steps for it.
Porting ROMs from other phones, on the other hand, is a much more complicated process, often involving editing the source code before compiling it into the ROM. There really isn't a straight-forward step-by-step process to follow.
That's really why no one's posted the instructions.
I could I suppose, but I've only poked at it once or twice. I generally know how to do it, but I suspect I'll still be having one of the experts check my work. Still, one more thing off their plates, and MIUI that much sooner for us.
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Looking forward to trying this as well

Sorry guys, didn't have a chance to get to this last night, I'm hoping I can tonight, but as always, we'll see. I've got a couple addons I personally wanna add to the ROM, but that will likely come later. Still, some teasers.

Awe come on i was looking towards getting Miui on my phone this morning! I hope you get it on here really really soon please

veteranmina said:
Awe come on i was looking towards getting Miui on my phone this morning! I hope you get it on here really really soon please
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Wow. I really hope you were attempting to be funny because this comes off as incredibly ungrateful. The guy is attempting to do this for FREE and on his own free time. If he actually has a life that happens to take him away from being able to port this then good for him. If you're in a huge hurry to get it, then feel free to do some research and port it yourself. Otherwise sit back, relax, and be happy when it does get released.

akellar said:
Wow. I really hope you were attempting to be funny because this comes off as incredibly ungrateful. The guy is attempting to do this for FREE and on his own free time. If he actually has a life that happens to take him away from being able to port this then good for him. If you're in a huge hurry to get it, then feel free to do some research and port it yourself. Otherwise sit back, relax, and be happy when it does get released.
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I wasnt meaning to be mean at all. Just all excited to finally get a Miui rom on my phone if you know what i mean. I understand he has a life just as i do and i respect that.

veteranmina said:
I wasnt meaning to be mean at all. Just all excited to finally get a Miui rom on my phone if you know what i mean. I understand he has a life just as i do and i respect that.
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Excitement is perfectly fine and expected. Asking for ETA's and requesting something "really really soon" just comes off as impatient and like you are owed something. Not attacking you, just something to keep in mind.

i would like to see this also id use it... wut avoit the patch?
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LOL It's all good, Life has just been really busy lately----but trust me, I've wanted GB MIUI for about a month now. XD To be perfectly frank, I'm still a little bitter I got so little help with it, banged my head against it for a month, and Andmer comes in in a *weekend* and gets it going. XD But I'm not complaining, cuz, well, I get GB MIUI. XD It just tells me I need to learn JavaScript and C++ and start compiling from source.
Again, stuff *will* be broken (this won't be my normal daily ROM until GPS is fixed, I MUST have my GPS), but I know Andmer and JT1134 are working on it (since it benefits JT's latest CM7 build as well).

I have to agree about the GPS... This is good news though. CM7 and MIUI are "almost" there now. Been watching and waiting for months on the progress of those.
I have been patient and I think not long off now, we will all be playing with fully working MIUI and CM7 ROMS...
Keep at it guys, I am rooting for you... (groan... root)..

Just a quick update: I won't get this completed tonight, but I did get a chance to start it. I need to bug BDE for some pointers, and hopefully hear back from JT on a code question. Even so, because of the way it's flashed (and how one must switch ROMs if they decide they want to go back to a different one), it'll get tested on IRC first before it's posted on XDA.
I won't get a chance to work on it tomorrow night for sure, but I'm hoping sometime during the weekend at the latest. Patience comes to those who wait as they say.

akellar said:
Wow. I really hope you were attempting to be funny because this comes off as incredibly ungrateful. The guy is attempting to do this for FREE and on his own free time. If he actually has a life that happens to take him away from being able to port this then good for him. If you're in a huge hurry to get it, then feel free to do some research and port it yourself. Otherwise sit back, relax, and be happy when it does get released.
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I read their post as trying to be funny, not disrespectful.
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ChromWolf said:
Just a quick update: I won't get this completed tonight, but I did get a chance to start it. I need to bug BDE for some pointers, and hopefully hear back from JT on a code question. Even so, because of the way it's flashed (and how one must switch ROMs if they decide they want to go back to a different one), it'll get tested on IRC first before it's posted on XDA.
I won't get a chance to work on it tomorrow night for sure, but I'm hoping sometime during the weekend at the latest. Patience comes to those who wait as they say.
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Hey, with CM7 (the old non-MTD builds) Jt added some code to the rom so that all we'd have to do is remove one line from build.prop to fix the SMS padding issue (and copy in a few files from /lib/ and 1 from /bin/ on a working AOSP rom). I THINK he possibly did this for the new MTD build too, but I'm not sure, but if so we should be able to fix it up quick. If not, l3ttuc3 is the one who has manually removed the padding in the past, but i'm sure others could help out.
i accepted your gtalk invite last night so just hit me up

bdemartino said:
Hey, with CM7 (the old non-MTD builds) Jt added some code to the rom so that all we'd have to do is remove one line from build.prop to fix the SMS padding issue (and copy in a few files from /lib/ and 1 from /bin/ on a working AOSP rom). I THINK he possibly did this for the new MTD build too, but I'm not sure, but if so we should be able to fix it up quick. If not, l3ttuc3 is the one who has manually removed the padding in the past, but i'm sure others could help out.
i accepted your gtalk invite last night so just hit me up
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so what are these files that need to be transfered? i can transfer those files myself from one rom to another. And i can look up and see what line it is to remove the sms padding possibly. I also heard there was some things in the framework that had to be changed but idk why and idk how to mess with those yet :/

[Q] Just had ny phone root

Hello, I am a newbie to this whole rooting thing. I just had my phone rooted with UnNamed ROM v2.2.1 so far the phone has been really fast and smooth. Its a nice clean setup. The big question is, now what? What should be my next step? Nothing big since I`m still learning. Maybe a theme? I not sure. Thanks for any input. Have a great night.

Steve6569 said:
Hello, I am a newbie to this whole rooting thing. I just had my phone rooted with UnNamed ROM v2.2.1 so far the phone has been really fast and smooth. Its a nice clean setup. The big question is, now what? What should be my next step? Nothing big since I`m still learning. Maybe a theme? I not sure. Thanks for any input. Have a great night.
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Welcome to a world free of obligatory carrier control and Bloat! I suggest you repost this in the specific forum for your phone, that way other people who have the same phone can help you out.

WIN
I title this WIN because you really have done all there is to it.... for n00b5! No i do not mean to be rude at all =) Great job getting this far mate! There are two options you really have here:
1: you sit back and watch for updates, flash them, flash fixes like beats audio, lagfixes, different kernels and other goodies and make your phone even better.
2: you follow option 1 AND you learn how to make the goodies! Seriously, it's an open source project, what open source is meant to have happen! People learn about the goodies there are for your phone, which is what you did by flashing a rom, and then they move on to make themes, apps, ports, kernels, etc. of their own.
In simple words, you should go and learn about how your awesome phone works (i have an SGS and an SGSII so i know they're amazing) and you go and improve it! That is how you have on my friend, you are in a great position for learning and doing, so go out and make android great!

[Q] In your opinion what is the best ROM for the Galaxy Blaze 4G?

Hey guys,
I frequent the EVO forums since my current phone is the EVO 3D. My best friend has a Blaze 4G, which I rooted for him about a month ago. I know nothing of current Samsung ROMs and while I could search and read every thread in the Blaze section, I was hoping you guys could save me some time.
General requirements for any ROM to be considered:
1) Must have working camera/camcorder (He has a 7 year old daughter he just got custody of and Dads gonna want to take pictures.)
2) Must be "Stable". My friend is a great guy but not a computer/phone savvy as I am...I don't want his phone to **** the bed while I'm at work, I'd feel like an uber douche.
Please in your responses include any pro's/ con's and why YOU like it...Thanks a ton

ItzCrooK2UxD said:
Hey guys,
I frequent the EVO forums since my current phone is the EVO 3D. My best friend has a Blaze 4G, which I rooted for him about a month ago. I know nothing of current Samsung ROMs and while I could search and read every thread in the Blaze section, I was hoping you guys could save me some time.
General requirements for any ROM to be considered:
1) Must have working camera/camcorder (He has a 7 year old daughter he just got custody of and Dads gonna want to take pictures.)
2) Must be "Stable". My friend is a great guy but not a computer/phone savvy as I am...I don't want his phone to **** the bed while I'm at work, I'd feel like an uber douche.
Please in your responses include any pro's/ con's and why YOU like it...Thanks a ton
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I understand completely what you are saying about a rom for your friends Blaze. I would recommend Dark KNight Build 8 and Tweaked ROM. Both are stable and run well. I have been using Dark Knight since the day it hit. No force closes, no random reboots, everything is working fine. Tweaked is also very stable and everything works. Also I would recommend flashing the scorched kernel as well.
Hope this helps

I agree, tweaked and dknight are probably your best options, although I think there is JMT, but I have never tried that.
Let me ask you though. Is there a reason your friend does not want the stock rom? If he's not to tech savvy as you say, if it were my friend I would let him stick with stock, all the roms have there small issues. And although some may not bother me, it may be something your friend would rather not deal with. Having said that, after setting up dknight with the torched kernel and running for quite some time now, I have not had any problems.
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flyers00 said:
I understand completely what you are saying about a rom for your friends Blaze. I would recommend Dark KNight Build 8 and Tweaked ROM. Both are stable and run well. I have been using Dark Knight since the day it hit. No force closes, no random reboots, everything is working fine. Tweaked is also very stable and everything works. Also I would recommend flashing the scorched kernel as well.
Hope this helps
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Thanks I will flash this tomorrow, after reading through both of those threads
LiveFaster said:
I agree, tweaked and dknight are probably your best options, although I think there is JMT, but I have never tried that.
Let me ask you though. Is there a reason your friend does not want the stock rom? If he's not to tech savvy as you say, if it were my friend I would let him stick with stock, all the roms have there small issues. And although some may not bother me, it may be something your friend would rather not deal with. Having said that, after setting up dknight with the torched kernel and running for quite some time now, I have not had any problems.
Sent from my SGH-T769
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He wants something different. From what I've read about the Blaze 4G and its users y'all have the same issue EVO 3D users had with regards to ICS update (We were told Q1 2012...didn't get an official OTA until 7/31). We will hang out, drink some cold beers and he will play with my phone and say "Damn, Chris...I wish my phone would do that" or "Hey Chris...you think you can make my phone do *insert cm9/10 feature here*" So a few weeks ago I went ahead and rooted his phone, he loves that HE is in control of his device...even if he has no idea what it can do. I set up Titanium for him and did a NANDROID backup so that if something went wrong he has a known good flash point. He knows that when in doubt, don't mess with it or call me and we will go through it together. So in fairness to him, he is savvy enough to know not to really mess with it until he more knowledgeable...
Besides all that the man couldn't type until I got him addicted to a MySpace app, I am hoping that once he sees what his device can do with some mods he will take interest the same way and learns to do this for himself...just gotta get him that first hit ya know