Froyo and playlists and non-OEM media player help. - Captivate General

Pardon me if this has been addressed elsewhere. I have searched the internet as well as these forums and have found "similar" posts but nothing EXACT.
I have a Samsung Captivate just upgraded to the official Froyo - everything works great EXCEPT FOR THIS:
Playlists synchronized from my PC to the phone do not show up in ANY media player EXCEPT for "Music Player" (OEM/stock) - I have used Media Monkey, doubleTwist and WinAmp on the computer side and on the phone side I have used Mixzing, WinAmp and doubleTwist to play - ALL the music shows up (with correct tags) but the playlists do NOT in any player except for Music Player - I suspect this is either a known issue with no known work-around, or the workaround is simple and I'm about to get yelled at for not knowing what exact word string combination to search for to pull it up.

I've never been able to transfer my playlists either so I'd like to know if there is a solution too. If not there's always the longer way by adding the songs you want to an sd card, save them as playlist then move the music from there & repeat as needed.
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mremer said:
Pardon me if this has been addressed elsewhere. I have searched the internet as well as these forums and have found "similar" posts but nothing EXACT.
I have a Samsung Captivate just upgraded to the official Froyo - everything works great EXCEPT FOR THIS:
Playlists synchronized from my PC to the phone do not show up in ANY media player EXCEPT for "Music Player" (OEM/stock) - I have used Media Monkey, doubleTwist and WinAmp on the computer side and on the phone side I have used Mixzing, WinAmp and doubleTwist to play - ALL the music shows up (with correct tags) but the playlists do NOT in any player except for Music Player - I suspect this is either a known issue with no known work-around, or the workaround is simple and I'm about to get yelled at for not knowing what exact word string combination to search for to pull it up.
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Don't know if this will help you, so here goes. I noticed that when I downloaded some mp3's that a few of the tags were WAY off (band name, song title, etc). So I downloaded, from the Market, MP3 Tagger to rename those tags. What I'm getting at is that MP3 Tagger automatically finds where your mp3's are stored on your phone, then allows you to make changes, then the newly-changed file shows up in your media players automatically. I hope this helps.

What are you using to sync the music and create the playlist? Are you connecting the Captivate as a Mass Storage device or a Media Player? If connecting as a Media Player, then the playlists will be created as WPL files which I believe only the stock player will play. I connect the captivate as a Mass Storage Device and then sync it that way, which creates an M3U playlist which can be played by everything

only WMP makes WPL lists and it can be changed in settings. he mentioned he used winamp and others. so probably not the issue.
also i find mounting as media player, sucks, i did that and half my music disapeared. might have been a bad phone though. been replaced but ever since i connect as mass storage.

I've tried mass storage and media player. When I use mass storage the music loses its organization (folders, etc) but that might have been a MediaMonkey thing. I will try the experiment again using mass storage and doubletwist and winamp- I have the highest faith in those two...
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The playlists ARE showing up on the phone but ONLY in the stock music player. Its almost like they are being intercepted. I am going to try mass storage and doubletwist tonight.
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I had the same problem then started using doubletwist on y phone and desktop to sync. It works perfect now.
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I just tried using doubletwist to doubletwist using "storage mode" not MTP and I'm having the same problem. The playlists do not show up in ANY application on the device except for "My Music" (OEM player). All the tracks, albums, artists show up in the other player just not the playlists.

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Music app that will stream from URLs in m3u playlists?

I used to be able to do this with pocketplayer in windows mobile. I just got an android phone today (G1, old but much better than my even older phone) and I wanted to be able to stream my music library to my phone. I already have the means to stream it to anything else using edna (http://edna.sourceforge.net/), which I managed to run as a service in the background.
The idea was to be able to access my music library on the phone's browser and then have it open the generated .m3u file using a music player. But I have yet to find a single music player for Android that can do this except maybe this app called "Just Playlists", which doesn't really work at all unless I download the playlist first. And it won't do that, it automatically opens them with the program.
So, I'm thinking of downloading subsonic to use as an mp3 server, but the thing is that I feel that it's unnecessary to have two mp3 servers running at a time. The only benefit is having it on my phone, but otherwise I can just use edna on another device, like a computer, and open the playlist files with VLC or Winamp.
Another problem I ran into with Just Playlists is that it won't preload the song titles/artists for the songs, so I'll be looking at the full URL waiting for it to scroll by so I can pick a song. This is if it works at all.
So, help? Anyone know of any apps?
Using CIFS to mount music shares
I've actually been trying to do a similar thing. I've been using cifs to mount my music folder onto my Desire. It seems like a slightly easier way to get access to the files than using edna, especially because it doesn't require any extra software.
I have been struggling to find a decent music player than can easily handle such a large volume of files. I'm using Winamp Beta for my music and whilst I can play files, I need to use a file browser to find the files I want to play.
I also can't find a way of playing the m3u playlists I have stored on my computer. I've used Audio Galaxy and this has the same problem (unless you're using iTunes). Subsonic has better support but it's pretty expensive.
has anyone found a working soultion for this yet? I have a set of m3u and pls files which are saved URL's of online radio stations, some from shoutcast, some from other sources that on Windows Mobile I used GS Player to listen to
Just Playlists seems to come the closest out of any apps I've tried to working but either gives me an unexpected error message when trying to open the file or it looks like it has opened it but I get no playback.
I've tried StremFurious, VLC S&C and I think one or two others but no luck yet, curious if others have a solution
thanks!

Why is it so hard to find a decent music player?

It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
mwxiao said:
It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
alphadog00 said:
Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
I feel your pain; I've had trouble finding a music player I really liked too. As of now, I'm just using the stock Samsung Music Player.
...which actually isn't that bad. It works well enough and the 5.1 feature is awesome.
check doubletwist. very good GUI and has itunes compatibility but I have not used that personally
DoubleTwist is a good music player and can export your playlists from itunes. They syncing is a bit slow tho.
I really had a hard time with doubletwist, and it took forever to start up on the pc.
I would recommend 'Songbird' on the desktop. It's built on top of a Mozilla Firefox framework, has great plug-ins and extensions, and via MTP can sync playlists with M3Us to the captivate, and then mixzing as the player on the captivate.
noidd said:
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
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Thanks a lot. The Android music player is much better than the Samsung one. Though I have a few bugs for just 10 min of try. Well, it's actually not a big of a deal. Playlist works fine, album art works fine. And that's all I am asking for.
closeshave2 said:
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
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+1 on this app, you can use the stock samsung player, and double twist recongizes the playlists as well. it was much easier and faster on my computer as well. syching around 6 gigs of music only took around 15 mintues as opposed to over 2 hours with double twist.
ANOTHER good and easy to use apps is called "itunes agent". All you have to do is plug in the phone as USB drive and use it to sync you songs. Check it out. I use it for my WinMo phone and it is probably one of the best tool for sync songs to my phne.
mwxiao said:
Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
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I had all my music in iTunes (many files were AAC - ripped that way before i knew better) and I learned the hardway that iTunes some funky things. I actually used MP3tag to fix the tags - lots of Android phones don't like the tags if some fields are empty - this has the effect of showing uknown artist and maybe empty album art. iTunes added some funky stuff to some of the tags, so once i got it all cleaned up and made sure the album artwork was embedded in the tags all was good.
As for playlists - you could try Samsung Kies - it does sync with the phone and allows you to make playlists. I have not tried it for syncing yet.

[Q] Playlist Syncing ? (Galaxy S i9000+ Froyo)

Hey people,
I'm having issues syncing playlists from my computer to my phone.
Been searching all over the net for a proper solution but no luck with this.
Here's my issue;
Basically when i sync playlists from my PC to my phone, it saves the playlists on my phone as .PLA format.
Now the only player that actually reads those playlists is my stock player.
I have tried several android players, but non of them will recognize the playlists.
On my PC for syncing i have tried
-WMP
-Winamp
-MediaMonkey
-DoubleTwist
All of these create playlists in PLA format on my device when transferring them, which wouldnt be a problem if i wanted to use the stock player.
As for android apps/media players i have tried:
-Cubed
-Winamp
-Mort Player
-Media PlayerPro
-Mixzing
-Astro Player
When i create a playlist using any of the apps on my phone, every other app is capable of reading them.
However, the playlist file can not be found on my phone, or my SD card. so i have no clue what format they are saved to, or where they are saved too.
I'm basically looking for a way to transfer my playlists from my computer to my android phone, and have the other apps actually read the playlists.
The phone im using is the Samsung Galaxy S.
Been trying to work this out for days now, but with no success what so ever.
So if there is anyone that has a clue on how to get this done properly, id appreciate it.

Any free music player what can properly sort files?

Hello.
Is there a music player that know how to properly sort files, so after file1 it would play file2 and not file10 ?
Thank you.
You have to turn shuffle off.
Yes, Captain Obvious, it IS off.
For some reason all players I've tried so far sort files as:
file1
file10
file11
file12
...
file2
file20
file21
This goes to sorting by filename or data in ID3 tags
In PHP/MySQL it's called "natural" sorting, I believe
Sorry. But that was the first thing that came to me. What phone do you have?
Google Music Player
That's the best music player anywhere online or offline
winamp ?
Uber Music by Federico Carnales has an advanced media scan and he claims it uses "true shuffling" so you can try that..
I had this same problem (while using CM9 music player) and I found that by hitting party shuffle it fixed it?
first try to rename file1 to file01 and file2 to file02 eccetera eccetera... After that i used doubleTwist Player, freeware from Google Play, you can create playlists with that.
I like TTPod
Any free music player what can properly sort files?Arrow
try to rename the files and then use the doubletwist player
TTPOD is the best music player...
SofiaBrown said:
try to rename the files and then use the doubletwist player
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If I have to rename files any player would do just fine. It defeats the point of this topic - finding a player that sorts files properly.
They are being sorted properly, all operating systems recognize 10 as coming before 2. Use a program like Mp3tag to automatically rename all of your music files to the correct convention; 01, 02.......10,11, etc.
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And what the "all operating systems" are you referring to? Windows sort them just fine without prepending with zeros.
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Best way to manage music?

Anyone know a good way to manage music with a g2x??
I have well over 2k songs on my itunes. I have them all on my g2x, but it seems to have a poor music managing system.
Songs/Artists/Playlists are duplicated many times, playlists duplicate the songs within them sometimes, etc.
I'm wondering if theres a good software to manage the music on my phone?
Something comparable to itunes preferrably
I just want to be able to make playlists on my computer without them duplicating on my phone.
I've tried doubletwist, itunesagent (which doesn't copy playlists), and even winamp.
i'm just using Google Play
I'm just using Google Play Music as well and transfer my files via mass storage. Now I use the cloud for Google Play Music and just keep a few albums on my SD card. I have no problems with duplicates or any other issues.
You have to get a tag editor and
Make sure there filled out right... iTunes fixes them but the music players don't.
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Kplaylist + MediaMonkey + Google Play
All my music is on an a private web server that can stream all my music. I stopped using iTunes a long time ago, but all my music is on this web server.
http://www.kplaylist.net/
If you can setup an Apache Service with PHP, you will love this app. Its the only thing I use and get my music anywhere.
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MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/
I only use this to update the ID Tags of all my songs and add the album picture from the web. Its a bit tricky, but what I do is, when I decide I want to add and album to Google Play I tag and add the picture album then upload them.
I have like 40 gigs of music, and slowly have converted to Google play. I fix the tags and albums as I go. Its worked so far
Sometimes the picture or the album name comes out wrong, have to re-upload or manually correct it once its inside Google. It happens sometimes, especially if mediamonkey can't find the rare song online.
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Google Play
If done right, all the songs will be properly tagged and the album picture inside. Its running better now then when it was called (Google Music). Used to crash alot. The only decision you have is "Make available Offline"
In the end, when its nicely organized, I use Google Play way way more.
yoo992 said:
I've tried doubletwist, itunesagent (which doesn't copy playlists), and even winamp.
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I've been using Doubletwist and it copies my playlist from itunes just fine
I use Banshee Media Player. I have it set up to sync one specific playlist. It works in one-click and it even converts my FLAC files on the fly to V9 mp3! Even better, even though I have it set to sync one playlist, it keeps track of which tracks belong to other playlists too. I use it on Ubuntu but I think the sync options work on Windows too.
Edit: It also keeps my media tagged, downloads album art and sorts the files into an [Artist]>[Album] folder structure.

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