I have been flashing roms like crazy since they hit and I love to tinker, but I'm about to leave on vacation and need my call quality to be clear, I'd like to be able to use wireless hot spot and I wanted to have the fastest speeds possible.
It took a little while and I won't step you through the entire process, but here's what I did and where I found the info.
I'm assuming you've already got root so I'll skip that.
1) flash attn1's stock rooted rom found here
This ROM already has side loading enabled so you can install non market apps.
2) enable wireless tether. I'm shocked that it works, but it seems to work. Thread is here.
3) Turn on HSUPA. This one is a bit more complicated so I'll explain it.
you will need a file manager on the phone that will let you access the file system. There are several on the market, but Root Explorer is easiest to use.
In root explorer navigate to /system set the file system to r/w. Find the build.prop file. This is the file we want to edit. make a backup first, so long press the build.prop file and rename it to build.prop.bak. Now long press on build.prop again and choose open in a text editor. Root explorer has one built in. The 4th line down should say ro.ril.hsxpa=x. Change that value to 3 press menu choose save changes. Go into settings/applications and turn off fast boot. Reboot and you will have high speed data, sideloading, and tethering all enabled with stock Inspire sound.
Figuring all this out took about an hour of searching/reading and tinkering but it was worth it. Hope someone finds this helpful.
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Thanks to the guys who figured this all out for me. All I had to do was a little research. They did the heavy lifting.
I am a total noob when it comes to flashing ROMS etc.. What has to be done first in order to apply these to my phone? My phone is bone stock and nothing has been done to it. Is there a guide on how to get to the point where you say "I'm assuming you've already got root so I'll skip that". Thanks for any help.
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Thanks. So, all I need to do is create a gold card in order to root, then follow your how to? Can I use part 1 of r34p3rex's video tutorial till the end then follow your guide?
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Gunny- Thanks for your posts. You're really active in this forum, but keep things easy to understand. I am a moderately knowledgable user (the most dangerous kind) and I appreciate your posts tremendously. I'm not about to leave AHD as I love to be able to theme things! Once we get attn1's rooted stock deodexed, I'll be all over that again.
kirk123 said:
Thanks. So, all I need to do is create a gold card in order to root, then follow your how to? Can I use part 1 of r34p3rex's video tutorial till the end then follow your guide?
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Get rooted then come back to this. and Please spend about a day reading the stickies before you root your phone.
I changed the value to 3 but still have slow upload speeds. Any ideas?
Never mind. I turned off fast boot and rebooted. Went from 700k down 250k up, to 2700k down, 1200k up.
Nice!
Finally, speeds that make my iPhone pals envious
THis sounds great, I'll try when I get off work tonight
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I changed the value to 3 but still have slow upload speeds. Any ideas?
Never mind. I turned off fast boot and rebooted. Went from 700k down 250k up, to 2700k down, 1200k up.
Nice!
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Wow, you are awesome. I did change the value to 3 and saw no change after reboot but I did disable fast boot and both upload and download speeds are A LOT faster. Used to get 1000kbps down and 158kbps up and now thanks to Gunny and you, harlenm, my speeds are 1900kbps down with 1467kbps up. WOOHOO! THANKS GUYS!
Glad y'all are finding this helps. I edited the Op to add the step for disabling fastboot. Thanks for that.
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Glad y'all are finding this helps. I edited the Op to add the step for disabling fastboot. Thanks for that.
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Hey gunnyman, nice to see you over here in the Inspire forums. I am familiar with you from the Captivate side. I just got my Inspire on Tuesday, am rooted and running Attn1's Inspire DHD ROM with the stock radio. Do you notice a marked improvement in the Audio between the two ROMS with the stock Radio? I will probably give this a flash sometime this morning to try it out. Stock seems nice enough for me right now.
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Yeah that really made my day! I had terrible speeds prior to this with the inspire, but now it feels like a new phone again. I had the iphone 4 before with higher data speeds. With the the inspire 4G i was getting terrible speeds. I was on the phone complaining to them about the data speeds and they kept telling me that the area I am in is congested and theres nothing they can do. Well... a little tinkering with the settings, and problem solved!
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Hey gunnyman, nice to see you over here in the Inspire forums. I am familiar with you from the Captivate side. I just got my Inspire on Tuesday, am rooted and running Attn1's Inspire DHD ROM with the stock radio. Do you notice a marked improvement in the Audio between the two ROMS with the stock Radio? I will probably give this a flash sometime this morning to try it out. Stock seems nice enough for me right now.
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The only sound I have found acceptable is the Stock Rooted. The radio makes no difference. there's something going on with the stock kernel and drivers. With source dropping a couple of days ago I'm sure it will get sorted out before long.
There seem to be a lot of us Captivate defectors on Inspires now :up:
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The only sound I have found acceptable is the Stock Rooted. The radio makes no difference. there's something going on with the stock kernel and drivers. With source dropping a couple of days ago I'm sure it will get sorted out before long.
There seem to be a lot of us Captivate defectors on Inspires now :up:
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Yeah, it is pretty tinny, I have to say. I'm sure it'll get straightened out. I jumped for the GPS. Even though I don't use it all that much, especially while moving, and the devs over there had it fixed pretty good for standing still, it just bothered me way too much. Going to flash this in a bit.
Edit to ask: It seems as tho flashing a ROM over another (at least Sense to Sense) all I have to do is clear cache and flash? It even seemed to maintain my settigns/apps/app data when I went from Revolution to Inspire DHD yesterday. Is it really that easy? No flashing to stock and master clear first?
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Yeah, it is pretty tinny, I have to say. I'm sure it'll get straightened out. I jumped for the GPS. Even though I don't use it all that much, especially while moving, and the devs over there had it fixed pretty good for standing still, it just bothered me way too much. Going to flash this in a bit.
Edit to ask: It seems as tho flashing a ROM over another (at least Sense to Sense) all I have to do is clear cache and flash? It even seemed to maintain my settigns/apps/app data when I went from Revolution to Inspire DHD yesterday. Is it really that easy? No flashing to stock and master clear first?
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correct. Since there's no "lag fix" silliness to deal with and HTC actually uses a "standard" file system in its phones, all you need to do is wipe data and clear dalvik cache.
You don't have to wipe data, but I do it anyway.
Except my speeds are back to crap after reinstalling the rom. Arghh
Just redo the build prop.
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this is a super helpful thread.
thanks for this. I will be doing this to my inspire tonight!
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man.. ive never felt so cro-magnon.. this shouldnt be giving me problems but with all the possibilities to root this.. Im a bit confused as far as which method is going to work 100%
If performed correctly, all methods will work 100%. Bubby's is by far the easiest imo. It tells you exactly what to do, step by step. Not quite as simple as one-click, but pretty dang close.
If you read the 2000+ replies to his post, a bunch of us have, but I know it's hard to sift through. I had a few starts and stops, but I think the real trick is ending up with a good gold card. Once it was working, it went smooth.
yeah i started to just about give up but then started over from scratch.. made sure i had all the ducks lined up and slowed down. It worked great this time around.. I suppose now ill have to flash a rom. id just assume take the bloatware off first
Well if you flash a rom that has bloatware removed then you're killing two birds with one stone.
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Well if you flash a rom that has bloatware removed then you're killing two birds with one stone.
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This is true. I've also found that some ROMs bring back the ones I've uninstalled. I would recommend using titanium backup to get rid of the useless ones. Be careful though. Some are needed for the system to run correctly.
my benchmark scores went down after install the other roms... the optimized stock rom and the revolution though the revolution one was a bit faster. might try aginger bread rom
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my benchmark scores went down after install the other roms... the optimized stock rom and the revolution though the revolution one was a bit faster. might try aginger bread rom
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I got 2165 using LeeDrOiD oc'd to a tad over 1574mHZ.
I just used it a couple of hours ago. It was successful. The only problems encountered were my own mistakes.
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man.. ive never felt so cro-magnon.. this shouldnt be giving me problems but with all the possibilities to root this.. Im a bit confused as far as which method is going to work 100%
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I felt the same way. I was terrified I was gonna brick my phone, but the process was very easy and straightforward. The most "difficult" part was the goldcard, but even that was easy with the latest application pack he has, it has an automatic goldcard maker in there, very easy to use. After that, it's just a matter of following directions (ie, mostly just pushing a button on your keyboard when told to and then entering a few commands on your phone, but all of it is written down and verrrry easy to do).
I very very very highly recommend bubby's root method.
It was SO good, in fact, that he's got a donation coming his way when payday comes. I honestly never expected it all to be THAT easy. I figured "oh hell, I'm gonna have all kinds of problems and I'm gonna look like the world's biggest idiot when I have to beg for help on the forums", but I had no problems whatsoever! Ez-Pz. Do it already!! If you found it as easy as I did, you might want to consider a donation too. Bubby is a young guy and we need to keep him interested and making great stuff like this in the future.
Oh, and everything works precisely as it did before too. No issues with calls, signal, GPS, sound, sync, battery, or any software issues whatsoever.
Thank you so much! I am seriously worried about it and had no clue if it worked. And reading your comment encouraged me. Heck I even made an account just to reply to this. Thanks so much for that needed inspiration
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...The only problems encountered were my own mistakes.
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^^This^^
Bubbys' one touch is great. Just follow the instructions and have patience.
First time rooter here. I used bubby's root method, watched the video like 6 times, read as much on these forums as possible, and followed the instructions exactly. I had 0 problems. I would highly recommend it.
Just remember, RTFM.
Hello all,
Should I still be following this video in order to root my phone using Bubby's latest RC2 release?
ATX350 said:
Hello all,
Should I still be following this video in order to root my phone using Bubby's latest RC2 release?
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Yes. That video was the missing piece of the puzzle for me. If you do what zonderion does in that video, just like he does it, you will root your phone without issue.
Inspired Ace 1.0 ¦ XDA Premium
^Thank you. Trying now. I'm a android virgin so a bit nervous to say the least. I'll update later with my results.
I was a first time user of Bubby's. I had one problem when entering commands in the terminal emulator.
I had a half rooted phone with no sound
I started back over (this time not quick formatting the sd card, and formatting the sd card while in the phone instead of a card reader)
Bingo like a charm. I also rooted my buddies inspire about an hour ago using the same method and worked fine first try.
I did it last night without issue though I am not sure why I did. It says there is a bloatware removal option but I never came across one. My only reason for the root is to get rid off all the junk I never touch. I'd like a stock Gingerbread ROM with Sense though. Now I am searching for an App or method to get rid of the bloatware.
Sense did a great job of copying everything back to the phone. I didn't lose anything at all! At least I think it is Sense that did that.
I flashed the cm7 ROM using rom manager. Got rid of all the bloatware. Miui looks like a nice gingerbread rom, I haven't taken the time to try it yet.
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rarefc3s said:
I did it last night without issue though I am not sure why I did. It says there is a bloatware removal option but I never came across one. My only reason for the root is to get rid off all the junk I never touch. I'd like a stock Gingerbread ROM with Sense though. Now I am searching for an App or method to get rid of the bloatware.
Sense did a great job of copying everything back to the phone. I didn't lose anything at all! At least I think it is Sense that did that.
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Titanium backup will remove bloat. It's worth every penny. If you get the paid version, you can opt to just "freeze" it, meaning it becomes invisible to the system (won't load). It will still occupy physical storage space on your internal storage, but can be readily "unfrozen", (restored).
Optionally, you can fully remove it, which will fully remove all traces of it, freeing up your internal storage.
Yet another way, would be to first do a backup of the bloat, which will be on your "external" larger SD card, and then after that go back and fully "uninstall" it, and it will accomplish both: restore-able, yet not auto-loading into memory, and not taking up internal physical storage space.
All within titanium backup. Five bucks well-spent.
In regards to a stock gingerbread sense Rom, which also is bloat free, Inspired Ace 1.0, which is what I'm running, meets those conditions exactly. Highly recommended.
Inspired Ace 1.0 ¦ XDA Premium
Problems As of Right Now:
Rooted my phone using bubbys (worked out fine)
Tried to install ROM for Gingerbread 2.3 as seen on many youtube tutorials
Not Working
Am I putting the ROMs on my SD card wrong? Should I reroot the phone again using a different program (tried using the xda first but my computer wouldnt let me even after I turned off firewall and anti virus.) I dont know what I should do but tonight is about to be my 2nd sleepless night until i figure it out..Thanks very much for any help!!
--Nikki<3
Are you able to boot into H-boot to see if you have s-off?
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Yes I just checked and it said that the S-OFF
and well i just tried to go into titanium back up right before i read your reply and its saying that root failed and then i checked super user and its saying that i need to upgrade and when i do its telling me that theres a signature error...
these are all conflicting ideas to me. any other kind of root that i can try besides the bubbys cause i really really want to use the gingerbread rom and sense 3.0
youre the best for replying and sorry about all the missing punctuations im typing really fast and i dont care about that just need some answers.. Thanks!!!
--Nikki<3
Since you have s-off, you should be able to flash a rom. Considering you are having issues, I would try flashing the stock rom thru h-boot first. Search the dev section for attn1's Ace_Cingular_US rom. Rename the file if needed and place it on the root of the sd card. Turn of fastboot in the settings menu of your device and restart in h-boot. Make sure there are no other such zip files on the sd card. When h-boot finds the file, it should prompt you start the flashing of the rom and radio.
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You are wonderful! Thanks so much for the help...The only person in 2 days to help with any advice... ^_^
--Nikki<3
WELL.........
I did what you said and now my phone is in an infinite loop of start HTC screen and off........its upsetting really...hahah
oii I have a headache
Did you do a wipe?
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Have you read the sticky (or is it stuck?) Rooting Guide in the General thread of the Inspire forums? The link is below. Look 1/3 of the way down at General Fixes (recovering from soft brick).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
Yes I did,,,,,
I dont know anymore...ugh ... i thought this would be a little simpler for me. i guess not..I'll keep trying
Don't worry overmuch as I have had issues too, although I was successful in the past on another device. From my research, if you can boot at all, you will be fine. Just takes some research and maybe some help from some Senior Devs .
can u boot into clockwork mod recovery, by holding volume down and power?
The reason i ask is im not sure if this can be done in hboot, but here is what i would like you to try. From the dev section go to leedroids 4g V3.03.0 GB thread and download the EXT4 wipe and his latest rom (((only using his, because the wipe and rom work together nicely, you can flash anything you want later))) after downloading both, transfer to the root of your sdcard. Then using CWM (if possible) flash the wipe first and then the rom without rebooting (again if possible.)
i cant find the thread youre talking about....it wont let me search for leedroid either
idk
Nikki0418 said:
i cant find the thread youre talking about....it wont let me search for leedroid either
idk
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065527&highlight=Leedroid
I feel your pain...when I rooted my Inspire it did not go smooth at all, slightly smoother than you evidently...if the phone can boot at all there is likely a way to recover...
EDit: That said, I now think I have about the most rockin phone within at least a 15 mile radius. I absolutely love it...but it has taken some work, and a few moments of anxiety when things didn't quite go smoothly at first
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WELL.........
I did what you said and now my phone is in an infinite loop of start HTC screen and off........its upsetting really...hahah
oii I have a headache
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Sounds like a soft brick. Possibly a bad flash, possibly from a bad download. Did you check the integrity of the download, md5sum? You want to do that and make sure you have no other pd98img.zip file on the sd card. Do as suggested, go to the sticky and follow the instructions for recovering from a soft brick.
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OK
Now that everyone has babied this poor sad little girl through the softbrick rooting step, I need one more piece of advice
I went to sleep last night after a victory dance: rooted phone, great Gingerbread and sense 3.0 etc etc
Put phone on charger --zzzzzz-- wake up and take it off charger and after more than 8hrs on wall charger battery is only 50%%!!! WTFF i've been up for a little while now and its at 38% with me not even touching it or doing anything on it..is there a rom or something that can extent battery life...is there a scan i can to to see if theres a different problem? I read that people have good battery life with LeeDrOiD IDK
Again thank you very much!!
--Nikki<3
alright tonight i'm gonna need you people to use your think boxes...web pages won't load even though my wifi is full bars....my att network isnt saying how the connection is (i.e. 3G, H+ etc) no indication
twitter keeps jamming up. htc sense keeps force closing....theres a lot of things i like on this rom but jeezzz way too many problems....everyone helping is awesome and i wuv you guys......hope to see some replies when i get back from work...thanks!!!
--Nikki<33
Did you flash a radio? The hack kit left me with a nasty radio. Upgrading to the latest radio made a difference. Post which radio you have, settings > about phone > software information > baseband version. Visit the Leedroid thread and see which radios are recommended. It is also possible it may have been a bad flash. In which case, you would need to wipe and flash again.
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it could be the rom, which one do you have installed now??? I noticed the best battery life with two pump chumps recook of the stock rom >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982963 , but for best overall look and feel i like leedroids gingerbead rom, that i posted earlier (however battery life is an issue with any GB rom). Its really just up to and what you will be doing as to whats best for you. Just try a few or try them all till you find what you like. Its also worth noting that CM7 seems to have the best battery life of any, but its an entirely different look. I personally hate it, but you may not.
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Now that everyone has babied this poor sad little girl through the softbrick rooting step, I need one more piece of advice
I went to sleep last night after a victory dance: rooted phone, great Gingerbread and sense 3.0 etc etc
Put phone on charger --zzzzzz-- wake up and take it off charger and after more than 8hrs on wall charger battery is only 50%%!!! WTFF i've been up for a little while now and its at 38% with me not even touching it or doing anything on it..is there a rom or something that can extent battery life...is there a scan i can to to see if theres a different problem? I read that people have good battery life with LeeDrOiD IDK
Again thank you very much!!
--Nikki<3
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There is an Android bug that puts the phone in a permanent wake state even when the screen is off, phone idle, etc. It happens after a phone call. Rebooting fixes it. this bug is identified by the Dialer taking up inordinate battery usage in the battery stats. It would be really coincidental if that happened to you right after flashing though...just a thought.
@fernadezhjr the Baseband version I have on here is 12.39.60.19U_26.06.04.06_M
I don't know what that means so *shrugs* haven't tried to Flash a new radio. I have a rom for one but i've done a lot to my phone so idk lol.......if you know where i can get a trustworthy rom for sure for the LeeDroid root.
@bermatides(sorry if i spelled wrong i only glanced at name) I have the [ROM]LeeDrOiD HD V3.3.0 GB [KERNEL]V3.2.0 >EPIC!< 6th July | HTC GB | OTA | CRT TV
I downloaded it from here from his personal profile off his posts. I dont know how corrupt it could be...everything is working fine. My wifi is just slow even with all the bars. and its not so much that my phone isnt charging (which i thought) its the wall charger that isnt charging my phone. it charges in the car and on the computer. but won't charge in the wall.....the little lightning bolt comes on and shows charging in action but the battery percentage goes lower and lower the longer its "charging" then kaput .........
Hi there! I've been using an Epic 4G since it was released, but I'll be switching to a Sprint Nexus S 4G on Wednesday when it arrive. Just wanted a change of pace until this Nexus "Prime" or an SGS2 comes out or something.
Typically I do my own research, but for this device there seems to be a bit of info fragmentation or maybe I am being dense. I appreciate the interest and responses in advance.
1. While I saw a few mentions of Odin, it was definitely not all over the place... I take it no one really uses it with this device? I did pre-setup the ADB/SDK/Fastboot stuff so it is all ready to go. Was just curious.
2. What are people using when they say to use the "latest" CWM? Most posts link to 3.1x, but I saw a thread for 4.0.0.2 that included an NS4G build. I'm a little thrown off by all of the NS4G stuff in the NS Dev section that isn't also in the NS4G dev section. I have to remember to explore both consistently.
3. What are people's feelings on Rom Manager? I've never used it before, it was a no no on the Epic. That said, it seems to be acceptable on the NS4G and if so I'll probably buy and use it to support the dev.
4. In reading about CWM sticking and not sticking... what is it about the NS4G that has these two styles exist? Is there a reason to go one way or the other? On the Epic you installed CWM and that was the end of it.
5. With the memory all being internal, when does that get wiped automatically? What are the scenarios (i.e. I read Fastboot is one) where this memory will be wiped and I should be careful to backup to PC first?
6. Is it safe to restore (via Titanium) some limited data? I don't want to restore much, but maybe some saved game data (lol Angry Birds, Fieldrunners, etc).
I think that's it for now... if anyone has personal opinions/recomendations on ROM/Kernel combinations, that'd be cool too, though I'll probably play wth several over the next few weeks.
Once again, I appreciate the interest in advance... looking to be as informed as possible when it arrived on Wednesday so I can hit the ground running.
Take care.
Lol..., my questions are boring.
One and only bump, I'll let it die after this.
Thanks
dmarden said:
1. While I saw a few mentions of Odin, it was definitely not all over the place... I take it no one really uses it with this device? I did pre-setup the ADB/SDK/Fastboot stuff so it is all ready to go. Was just curious.
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I also came from the epic, and also loved odin. Haven't used it yet on my nexus but the only thing I've seen that is close to it is that samsung factory reset tool which is posted in the dev section
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2. What are people using when they say to use the "latest" CWM? Most posts link to 3.1x, but I saw a thread for 4.0.0.2 that included an NS4G build. I'm a little thrown off by all of the NS4G stuff in the NS Dev section that isn't also in the NS4G dev section. I have to remember to explore both consistently.
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I am currently on 4.0.0.2 and love it. I believe the member who posted it built it from source and it is not the "official" version. That being said it works great and I definitely recommend it.
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3. What are people's feelings on Rom Manager? I've never used it before, it was a no no on the Epic. That said, it seems to be acceptable on the NS4G and if so I'll probably buy and use it to support the dev.
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Not a fan of it personally. I figure if you know how to install your own recovery and flash your own roms it really doesn't serve much of a purpose. I never got really into using it but I really can't say anything bad about it... it does what it's supposed to do.
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4. In reading about CWM sticking and not sticking... what is it about the NS4G that has these two styles exist? Is there a reason to go one way or the other? On the Epic you installed CWM and that was the end of it.
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I don't really have a great answer for you here. I never had an issue with cwm sticking on my nexus while others have. If you check the "etc" directory there is supposed to be a file called "install-recovery.sh" If you have it, rename it and then cwm should stick.
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5. With the memory all being internal, when does that get wiped automatically? What are the scenarios (i.e. I read Fastboot is one) where this memory will be wiped and I should be careful to backup to PC first?
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Yes, fastboot causes the internal "sd card" to be erased, other then that I haven't come across any time that it happens. Obviously I would say YES backup your data anyway... you never know!
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6. Is it safe to restore (via Titanium) some limited data? I don't want to restore much, but maybe some saved game data (lol Angry Birds, Fieldrunners, etc).
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I did when I first got my phone, didn't have any issues. So yeah I would say restoring your game data after installing the game should be fine.
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I think that's it for now... if anyone has personal opinions/recomendations on ROM/Kernel combinations, that'd be cool too, though I'll probably play wth several over the next few weeks.
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CM7 (latest nightly) with matrix kernel... I use it and love it!
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Thanks for response, man. I appreciate the helpful info.
Does 4G work on CM these days? I don't use it often, but it had come in handy... like when I am at Citizens Bank Park watching the Phils trample the Yanks lol
Absolutely does, the 4G toggle doesn't work in the notification bar, but it works when you turn it on in the settings. Glad I could help...
dmarden,
I came from Epic also, and love it, not looking back. Even having trouble manipulating daughter and hubby's, they are slightly different, slower, and bigger!!
To answer your questions, one word of advise - watch, read, and re-read, then maybe ask before you download something. I am finding it VERY hard in these forums to distinguish which Nexus, gsm or cdma, and what applies. I made the mistake of unlocking bootloader (and I had a tough time) with a gsm, had not idea, and bricked it. Sprint wouldn't touch it, but found the Odin for Samsung's programs and got it back - but it seems no one here uses it.
I'm on my second, haven't unlocked it yet, but as far as customs roms go, no one from Epic is here except ShabbyPenguin (ACS) and none have done roms, just see them yacking and supporting. The only thing I miss is Roam Control (vacation home at edge of service).
I am really enjoying stock on both, no rom changes. The phone is super fast, has fantastic battery life, and no issues. These are the reasons I had to hack and rom the Epic. And it is also wonderful not to "update" and "maintain" the roms. I always had little issues, now I have none.
So my advise, try vanilla for awhile, add what you liked and used and see how smooth it runs. And love the smaller, more comfortable feel of the phone
Yeah, perhaps I need to get out of the custom ROM mindset for a while.
I bought my Charge about a year ago (still no 4G in our area but that's a whole other discussion . . .) and figured I'd wait until the manufacturer warranty expires before rooting my phone.
I glanced over the development page and noticed that JT is still working on ICS but it's not yet fully ready. Does anyone have a recommendation regarding which ROM to root to my phone? It will be the first time I've ever routed a device before but I know how to follow instructions, so I assume I'll be fine.
Any recommendations anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, guys!
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Either Tweaked or Eclipse. Essentially, they're our only two choices, but they're both good quality. For kernels, most people like Imnuts' PBJ kernel.
Yeah, I was looking at that one (someone else suggested that one and the transparent ICS theme). It looks like one of the links comes already bundled with the PBJ you mentioned so I'll probably get that one.
One question I did have was regarding EX4. I don't know if I need it or not. I have a stock SDA card but I don't know how to check if it's EX3 or EX4 or if I even need that portion . . . I'd rather not have to wipe my SD card but it's really not all that hard to backup to a computer so I guess it's not a huge deal. I'd rather not do an extra step I don't need to do though.
So yeah, is there anywhere in the forums that talk about EX3 or EX4? I searched in these forums and found a few articles about it but I still don't know if it's something I need or not.
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Yeah, I was looking at that one (someone else suggested that one and the transparent ICS theme). It looks like one of the links comes already bundled with the PBJ you mentioned so I'll probably get that one.
One question I did have was regarding EX4. I don't know if I need it or not. I have a stock SDA card but I don't know how to check if it's EX3 or EX4 or if I even need that portion . . . I'd rather not have to wipe my SD card but it's really not all that hard to backup to a computer so I guess it's not a huge deal. I'd rather not do an extra step I don't need to do though.
So yeah, is there anywhere in the forums that talk about EX3 or EX4? I searched in these forums and found a few articles about it but I still don't know if it's something I need or not.
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I'm pretty sure EXT4 conversion does not affect external memory. It will only convert the data/dbdata/cache/system partitions to the newer file system. So no need to worry about your SD card. Personally, I would not recommend converting to EXT4 at this point. There is always a chance you can corrupt your internal partitions and brick your device. It is very difficult to hard brick a Charge, but from what I can recall those that have have been a result of a bad ext4 conversion. Ever since the Gingerbread OTA was rolled out, RFS has been more than adequate for the Charge. While you do get higher benchmark scores with EXT4, difference in real world usage is negligible (from my experience).
And Tweaked is by far the best current ROM for this phone. It is hands down the best ROM ever made for the Charge. If Eclipse is ever updated again, I would give that one a chance too.
In my opinion, the only reason to convert to ext4 on EP4 or FP1 is to make nandroid backups work. If you don't intend to use nandroid, no reason to convert.
ext4 definitely has significantly higher I/O throughput, but you'll only see it in benchmarks. You won't see any difference in the real world.
Tweaked gets my vote and as for kernels go, an increasing number of people prefer the stock kernel over PBJT for various reasons. Try both to see what works best for you.
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I use Tweaked, and am very happy with it. I've tried PBJ kernel several times with EXT4, but can't get rid of some lag issues, so I keep going back to the stock kernel.
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I like tweaked - plus it gets the most support right now. I think the eclipse developer has a newer phone, so that ROM has probably seen it's last update.
additionally, you've also got great themers here like Blackness, etc...
finally, you don't have to choose a custom ROM when rooting - you can still stick with stock or a debloated/deodexed ROM. but that will lack the bells and whistles of a tweaked or Eclipse.
also keep in mind that there are very easy ways to revert back to stock (just ask blackness - I think he did that 28 times over a 10-hour span last weekend ) so VZW will never know that your phone has been rooted....
I have what is probably a very silly, basic question. If I want to root my phone to using tweaked 2.2, should I be following this guide (except with Tweaked, rather than GB 2.3.4)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
Is there another guide you would recommend?
Also, I'm hoping to read a bit more about all the terminology for rooting phones, all the basics, etc. I've been able to find a couple of general guides (in this forum and using google) and each one teaches me a little bit but I figured I'd ask the masters. If you were just starting to look into this, what guide/articles/pages would you recommend reading?
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I have what is probably a very silly, basic question. If I want to root my phone to using tweaked 2.2, should I be following this guide (except with Tweaked, rather than GB 2.3.4)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160580
Is there another guide you would recommend?
Also, I'm hoping to read a bit more about all the terminology for rooting phones, all the basics, etc. I've been able to find a couple of general guides (in this forum and using google) and each one teaches me a little bit but I figured I'd ask the masters. If you were just starting to look into this, what guide/articles/pages would you recommend reading?
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That's as good of a guide as I've seen. I don't think I've ever had to "tap" the power button to get into download mode, fwiw. Just hold Vol down and plug it in.
There's not a whole lot you can screw up that Odin can't fix. Just make absolutely certain that your computer does not lose power and that your device does not become unplugged during any Odin'ing you do. I'd recommend going over to www.imnuts.org and pulling the EP4D and Charge.pit files in the event that you need to back out. Having them on your computer will save you the headache later on.
As far as guides, most of them are going to be really dated. The Charge community is winding down, and those of us who are left are generally pretty helpful and patient when it comes to questions. We don't have much in the way of guides because there is no large influx of newbies ever coming our way to clog up the forum. If you pay attention to Rootzwiki, there is a new fella who tried to do things on his own and got really frustrated by the lack of info. That lack of info is probably due to the fact that none of us really need it.
That said, if you run into a question, just ask. If nothing else, I'll try to help you out.
I had a babyzilla turn off my computer during the Odin process, and I was able to fully recover. So no real danger there.
Also, www.chargeforums.com has also got some helpful how to threads as well.
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I had a babyzilla turn off my computer during the Odin process, and I was able to fully recover. So no real danger there.
Also, www.chargeforums.com has also got some helpful how to threads as well.
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I've read that you can get hosed if it stops in the middle of flashing the modem? I don't know if there's any validity to that.
Not really sure where it was the process, but it happened a few tines. The first two times were due to a certain web page freezing up my PC.
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For the record, I put Tweaked 2.2 w/PBJ on my charge, used tweaktools to add Transparent ICS and it looks and runs great. If anyone was considering whether or not to use it, I'd highly recommend it.
Thanks for your help, everyone!
Batdroid we had it for about oh I don't know maybe 30 mins to an hour....
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I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.
He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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