Database Info

Just showin off a bit : )

So after reading nearly 5 hours and spending my time in the wee hours of morning, I finally did all the "stable" mods for the phone... If you haven't been reading, make sure you guys check out the stuff in the development forum.
After all modifications, I was able to get 2701 points in quadrant benchmark. What mods did I do?
-i9000 eclair flash (JM5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734871
-Alternative mimocans lag fix
(one click installer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749495)
-One click root (googled it for i9000)
-Overclock kernel 1.0Ghz to 1.2Ghz
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746343)
This stuff really does help out your phone folks. Bench it now with quadrant, then take a peak at the other stuff and make magic happen. If anyone needs any additional help setting up their captivate, I'm more than happy to help.

I agree those fixes help speed a lot. But the quadrant score is meaningless. the speed hack creates an io loopback. The loopback just tells quadrant what it wants to hear.

Does your BT work on the european ROM. For me all people hear is a gargeled mess on there end?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk

Can you post the results of these tests:
Neocore
Linpack
CPU Benchmark

I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?

jhego said:
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.

modest_mandroid said:
Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is correct and to be honest there is way to much weight in the I/O tests. That is the only reason that the stock Droid X bests the Gal X. It has more weight than cpu and gpu so you can't put to much into those scores. They really don't mean anything more than bragging rights. What I am interested in is real world usage.

Real world use with the hack provides amazing speed gains opening and switching apps. Io heavy apps are very much improved while open too. It's finally as fast as the iphone.

Whats your battery life like after the overclock?

The score ended up getting lower and lower every time i used quadrant. 2701 is the highest I was able to get so far, but that's with a fresh install of the rom and all the stuff before I started loading on apps. Everytime I ran the benchmark, I of course killed the apps beforehand.
The battery life is the same- to be honest. This is me comparing a rooted stock ROM to the somewhat fresh install of the eclair i9000. The phone is very snappy. I came from an iPhone 4 and one of the biggest eye sores to me was the less-fluidness of changing programs, response to buttons (homescreen-back button) and pinch to zoom. After all these changes, it's a whole different story. Browsing is very appealing, especially since pinch to zoom isn't jagged or slow. The smoothness of this functionality is on par to an iPhone. And there is no waiting when I press the home button or back button.
True, maybe these numbers aren't considerably accurate (as far as the lag fix and EXT2) but at least it shows raw computing capability in it's current state... meaning, the usage of a virtual EXT2. Never the less, the phone is still all around faster, even if it isn't exactly the proper way of going about it.
The only problem I've seen so far is that it likes to randomly shut off. Won't respond to anything unless if I soft reset it. I haven't really found what causes it, since the consistency of it happening goes about in a non set pattern.

I didn't see any real world increase .. so I reverted back in about 4 hours.... I'd rather have the memory than a number that don't transfer to real world speeds...

Degraded 3D Performance with Froyo/Cog 2.2?

Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...

Lencias said:
Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I noticed that framerates were lower as well, but only about 4 or 5 FPS. A drop this small isn't really all that significant, and 3D performance at 40 FPS rather than 44 FPS is still much better than a phone like the EVO which runs at like 18 FPS, so I wouldn't really worry that much

Yeah, I noticed it too. I'm also noticing other slowdowns, like a lag on the app drawer screen between my finger swipes and corresponding animations on the screen. If I swipe left or right, the actual swiping animation happens a split second later (noticeable lag). Something tells me this isn't the release build of this rom.
I'm also noticing that the battery dies much quicker with this new rom. I'd get about 2 days of use out of JH7 with the amount I use the phone, with JI6 I'm lucky if I get 8-10 hours.

Actually the benchmark result is quite amazing id say
It scores 1900+ in quadrant standarf
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Lencias said:
Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!

Use Neocore, that is a better FPS than quadrant. I still get 55.5/6 with Neocore so 3d performance is not degraded, at least not on my phone.

I'd expect some continued optimization of Froyo 2.2. Remember how laggy JF6 was? Then it got way better with JH2/3/7. I expect progress like that with the Froyo builds as well. With OCLF, JI6 is actually fairly impressive speed wise.

kennethpenn said:
I'd expect some continued optimization of Froyo 2.2. Remember how laggy JF6 was? Then it got way better with JH2/3/7. I expect progress like that with the Froyo builds as well. With OCLF, JI6 is actually fairly impressive speed wise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm.. did you do anything after you flashed, like cleared dalvik cache and whatnot? Mine is actually running slower (UI-wise) than JF6

Its funny you posted this because I noticed it as well today when I ran Quadrant just to see what it would get. I think Quadrant is a horrible tool for benchmarking now since it can be so easily manipulated, but I did notice the FPS drop myself.

Gles 2/1 is perfectly fine, i scored 46fps on nenamark, so no need to worry about 3d performance, i do admit 2d does stutter a little tho.

designgears said:
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take the man's advice! Quadrant is an awful way to measure performance on the Captivate. Quadrant is biased towards Snapdragon processors, and isn't all that accurate.
Sent from my Cognition 2.2 powered Captivate using XDA app.

It's running fine for me.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Actually using NenaMark1 which is a benchmark app specifically for OpenGL2.0 I get slightly higher scores than on 2.1.

designgears said:
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dg, may as well save your breath. No matter what is said or done, there will always be people who complain that X is slower than when it was Y and be sure that they are right (and will argue they are right to their dying breath).
Synthetic benchmarks are b***it on a multitasking OS anyway, at any given time any thread can tie up a resource the synthetic benchmark needs or it may not. The only way you could truly benchmark something like this while still allowing multitasking would be with a long range sample like a few hours, the 30 -70 seconds Quadrant runs is a worthless snapshot in time.
They all think they are getting an answer but all they are really doing is using a magnifying glass on a Seurat and wondering why they don't get the big picture. Of course the performance issue couldn't be one of the apps they have installed or that has updated since the last time they benchmarked.
I have 206 apps installed on my captivate with even a ridiculous amount like that and more stuff than the average running I can still get a quadrant score of over 950, its a snapshot in the middle not an effective way to judge a film.

For everyone whinging about reduced "3D" performance, is the actual handset slower in real, day to day use?
This is stock 2.1 Firmware vs stock 2.2 Firmware.
Not Cognition/custom rom with lagfix vs Stock 2.2.

As much as I don't like benchmarks, in this they are only confirming the slow downs I'm seeing in real world use on the leaked froyo rom. (Not cognition)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

The first time I flashed 2.2 I saw some lag in the form of occasional black screens and delayed responses, even after installing OCLF.
I used Odin One-Click to flash back to JF6 and did a master clear before installing Cognition 2.2. Immediately applied OCLF before doing anything else. Not seeing the black screens and delayed responses this time. Some are suggesting it's the master clear that helps.
As for 3D performance, animations and scrolling between homescreens are a lot smoother than they were in 2.1. Games run awesome too. The only two places I notice some skippyness are in the app drawer (not often though, and very minor) and in the browser (this is due to a known memory leak bug).

1randomtask said:
For everyone whinging about reduced "3D" performance, is the actual handset slower in real, day to day use?
This is stock 2.1 Firmware vs stock 2.2 Firmware.
Not Cognition/custom rom with lagfix vs Stock 2.2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I actually never bothered benchmarking, but I'm experiencing noticeable lag between swipes and corresponding animations in the app drawer and launcher.

modest_mandroid said:
Yeah, I actually never bothered benchmarking, but I'm experiencing noticeable lag between swipes and corresponding animations in the app drawer and launcher.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have never experienced that on 2.2, even before applying a lag fix. I suggest One-Clicking back to JF6, doing a master clear, and then installing 2.2 again.

No drop vs stock, the overclock kernel gave the extra fps. it also overclocked the gpu by 11%. 4-5 fps out of 40-45 is right in that area.
Edit :.i did a master clear so maybe that's why I don't see a problem
Not all benchmarks will work because our phones are capped at 56 fps. A benchmark needs to bog the gpu down below that for the whole test to get an accurate measurement. Quadrant does that for only party of the test. Many benchmarks can't do that at all.
Quadrant is a decent bench mark but our phones will not see the score increase of a snapdragon with froyo. linpack shows greatly inflated scores on snapdragon froyo devices. Greene computing goes over this on there website.
http://www.greenecomputing.com/
the full version of quadrant shows that the hummingbird and the processor in the droid 2/x mop the floor with the snapdragon in all areas but processing speed. The hummingbird having an edge over the droid x particularly in the 3d area but losing overall because of the rfs file system lag Which is apparently is weighed heavily and the reason the lagfix blows the score out of proportion and the different lagfixes have big gaps in the score while real world performance is not even noticeable.
http://slideme.org/application/quadrant-advanced
Composite scores don't mean anything and that is my gripe with quadrant, there is no way to decide how to weigh file system benchmarks against processor benchmarks against 3d, each area must be compared separately, and the user should be able to decide what that means.
Edit: linpack shows a huge increase over stock. 13.77 vs the 9.61 I got with voodoo and overclock. But still not at the level of a snapdragon. Wait till the next generating of arm processors come out, if you think a snapdragon/hummingbird hybrid would be awesome that's nothing compared to what's in the works. Higher clock speeds and multi-core cpu's aren't far away.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk

[Q] Quadrant Score???

How is it that I see alot of people benchmarking 2400+ on the benchmark? I have done the benchmark on the TnT Lite 2.4.0 and Vegan beta4 and both performed around 600-800. This is just from regular flash. Is it overclocking or killing all apps other than the benchmark test before proceeding with test? Does the livewalpaper matter?
Thanks!

I get consistent 2300+, and what you are getting is the behavior of wakeup bug in which when tablet wakeup from the long sleep like overnight, it gets stuck on 500+ quadrant score with subpar performance.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

TnT results should be around:
1800 for 2.2
2400 for 2.4 though 3.1
I had 570 average scores using TnT 3.1 (out of sleep mode or also perhaps a combo of apps- not sure what consistently caused it) and rolled back to 3.0. Could not figure out why, but rolling back to 3.0 made things 2400 again and got me out of lag city.

Just did mine on TnT Lite 3.1.1 and got a score of CRAP.. never mind.. it just Force Closed on me before I could remember what it was. LOL
Standby... time to re-do it.
Ok result is: 2542

rushless said:
TnT results should be around:
1800 for 2.2
2400 for 2.4 though 3.1
I had 570 average scores using TnT 3.1 (out of sleep mode or also perhaps a combo of apps- not sure what consistently caused it) and rolled back to 3.0. Could not figure out why, but rolling back to 3.0 made things 2400 again and got me out of lag city.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can confirm for stock TNT 3053, about 1800+ consistently.
Jim

I just killed all apps except for 4 essential apps. Got a lower score of 591. The tablet seems responsive to me. Even played some dungeon heros and I did not experience any lag.
I will have to benchmark the other two tablets and see how they do.
Edit: Redid the benchmark after a reboot and got 2356! which is a significant increase-value wise. My eyes and perception of time deceive me though as I do not notice a difference in usability from when I got the 500-600 scores recently to the 2356 after reboot. I will look into the calendar and autostart problems, see if those are what are keeping my scores down.

Reboot, kill any running apps and you should get some high scores (2000+).

jimcpl said:
I can confirm for stock TNT 3053, about 1800+ consistently.
Jim
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did 2 more tests, after pressing power button to wake Gtab, and got 1800+ for each test. Didn't do anything special like killing tasks. Again, this is with 3053 stock.
Jim

1800+ avgs seem to be the norm for stock on this device.
I don't know if the 2000+ scores are due to real performance gains or because of the partitioning and swap used in prepping the installation of those ROMs. Since Quadrant is synthetic it doesn't handle certain 'optimizations' added by code well and may misreport the scores. In reality 2000+ may really be 1800 or less, and 600 may also be running higher than reported.
Quadrant Advanced is better in that it gives you details. Much of the score we get on the G Tablet is from the powerful CPU and the abundant memory. TnT lite and VegaN may show 'boosts' to things like the I/O which is normally what is misrepresented as it's not weighted in the app. This is why many Galaxy S phones got 'fake' 2000+ scores due to the Lag Fix and in real testing they were performing at nominally higher than their 900 avging stock, but nowhere close to 2200 which is what most would avg. Testing a Vibrant with lag fix reporting 23xx in fact wasn't even working as fast/quick as a desire HD at 19xx.
I still haven't been able to get my device to slow down after sleep, so I guess that's something I'll have to do when I wake up later. Maybe a longer sleep time will aid me in achieving this. I have also tried everything to get the battery to drain faster, just in case there is some correlation...but I'm hovering at 84% and it's bedtime (according to my wife ).
If anyone else out there has Quadrant Advanced and is on stock and getting the slowdown - if you'd run it and give me some numbers I'd really appreciate it.
Numbers for stock 3899 + Google Apps are as follows:
Avg: 1917 in 3 runs. The avg isn't a calculation, it just means that's the score I got on the 3rd run. Under optimal conditions, the CPU should have maxed out by the 3rd run - but some people keep doing it and use the score that tapers off as max. It should get between 1830 and 1930 with stock.
CPU: 4916
Mem: 2730
IO: 1159
2D: 200
3D: 582
I expect the CPU number to be less than 1/2 during a 'slowdown'.
I expect the rest to be roughly the same.
If you're running a ROM like VegaN or TnT...I'm expecting everything to be the same except I/O which will be higher and maybe 2D/3D because of the newer Tegra drivers.
Update! Finally the pad slowed down just now. It's showing 35% on the battery meter. Not that there's any correlation but I've linked it - just because that's the only time I see the slowdown.
Total: 441
CPU: 918
Memory: 547
IO: 293
2D: 47
3D: 398
The slowing of the CPU has taken a toll on everything else. I thought the rest would look alright but that was stupid on my part. When you run a notebook in low power mode (ex: clock it at less than max), it affects performance across the board - so there was no reason that this should be different. Just wasn't thinking :/
Anyway, there we have it. Now to find a way to fix it permanently.
I'm going to set my wifi to turn off when my screen goes off to see if that helps as someone else noted somewhere.

Putting it in airoplane made overnight did not fix the issue. It woke up with bad sleep bug.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Appm

Quadrant Scores?

I'm getting a quadrant score of 2450 running TNT 4.1 (which is very stable).
I'm wondering if I should switch to VEGAn 5? What's your quadrant score? I'd like to get it up to 3000 or better. Any ideas?

SirDroidAlot said:
I'm getting a quadrant score of 2450 running TNT 4.1 (which is very stable).
I'm wondering if I should switch to VEGAn 5? What's your quadrant score? I'd like to get it up to 3000 or better. Any ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Install the data2loop in the development section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902426
There are stability issues. BTW, this is how everyone with a GTab is scoring over 3000 on quadrant. Besides having stability issues you lose data space.

Quadrant is affected by raw processing power - typically this has to do with the Kernel and associated drivers.
The interface/framework ie TNT, VEGAN , etc. typically does not improve your quadrant score only reduces if there are processes that are running while the quadrant is running...
Ideally you want to select the most efficient interface/framework....
Unfortunately each interface/framework has its pros and cons...some take use of the hardware features, some do not, some implement those features properly, some do not...
At this point from my experience Vegan is the most efficient... Overall the system does not seem to be as bogged down as with TNT Light. It is also the most like the out of the box android OS which lends to a benefit when talking with others when trying to change settings.
In either case you can try them all out and see what you like...

[Q] Quadrant Scores for the 7 Plus?

Hi guys,
I have a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus 6210 (WiFi only) and I'm getting Quadrant Scores mostly close to 3250. Meanwhile a lot of the reviews I've read online report 3600 to 3800.
Should I be worried?

Maybe off topic but I think people should stop using quadrant. It's really old.
The CPU part it does not work well with multicore and for the GPU part almost all tests reach FPS limitation set by ROM. So the score of it cannot really differentiate performance now.

It's also WAY too sensitive to I/O tweaks - disabling per-file write syncs gives you 600+ points on Quadrant which is insane.
Similarly, there were hacks (like the Stagefright hacks) that would cause Quadrant scores to skyrocket (I think people were figuring out how to hit 3000+ on Captivates) but would make real-world usage of the device utter crap.

I know of Quadrant's shortcomings - but my theory is that for two devices that haven't had any significant modifications to them, the score should be similar (no matter how flawed Quadrant itself may be to tweaking)

not too shabby for stock, hangs at I/O 2of 4.

That app is useless imho... rebooting my Tab bumped it 600 points

try AnTuTu benchmark. I got a score of 6030 with v6 Supercharger and KAK tweak.