[Q] UK Nexus S - Using in Spain with Spanish SIM - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I have 2 x Nexus S SIM free mobiles which I bought from Car Phone Warehouse in the UK, which we are using now in Spain.
Both handsets have SIM's for the Simyo network (Which is basically Orange's network).
Even though both handsets are unlocked to all networks, I constantly have the roaming icon showing, and I have to enable roaming and data roaming to have coverage.
Now I know beyond any doubt the handsets are NOT roaming.
Has anyone encountered this bug in the Nexus S please, it is really annoying.
Regards

not a bug, simyo has its own network code, which is different from orange's. Therefore, when you use orange's network, it's roaming. Simyo and orange have a roaming agreement, just like yoigo and movistar.
For now, you'll have to enable data roaming for data to work. (there was a discussion somewhere about not labeling it roaming when the country code is the same, which is the case for most of MVNOs)

spamlucal said:
not a bug, simyo has its own network code, which is different from orange's. Therefore, when you use orange's network, it's roaming. Simyo and orange have a roaming agreement, just like yoigo and movistar.
For now, you'll have to enable data roaming for data to work. (there was a discussion somewhere about not labeling it roaming when the country code is the same, which is the case for most of MVNOs)
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Thanks for that info. My misses is saying she tried a mates Orange SIM and that it did not show roaming.
However, we also both had Nexus One's, which we purchased here in Spain. Did not get the roaming icon when using the Simyo cards on those...
It is bloody annoying, as we also loose connectivity sometimes and keep having to re-enter the passwords to our google accounts :-\
Regards

kuntstubble said:
It is bloody annoying, as we also loose connectivity sometimes and keep having to re-enter the passwords to our google accounts :-\
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Ah, you can fix that!
simyo uses dual sim cards (sims with 2 numbers), to make their roaming agreements easier to manage internationally. When you go abroad, it switches from the spanish number to a netherlands one, i believe (though you don't notice it), just like if you changed the sim card.
The thing is, the switch is made when the sim card detects no service for a while. Problem is, that can happen when you lose signal for a while (underground parking, metro, etc...) And what happens when you change your sim card on an android device? yes, you lose google login.
Solution is to lock the sim card to use the spanish number always. You need a phone with STK app (sim menus), and you need to go to Servicio Simyo -> servicio roaming -> seleccion de red -> Seleccion manual -> Nacional. All nokias can access this menu, for example, but stock nexus doesn't have a stk app.
After changing that, hopefully you won't see the login error again. And about the nexus one: it must use a slightly different method to determine roaming, something I don't really know too well.

Woo, OK thank you for the info. Never knew about the dual number thing. Interesting...
This STK stuff, you know of any app for Android mate?
Regards

Hi, just to confirm, I did manage to fix the SIM issue, I borrowed a mates Nokia 1200 and as you said, I entered the STK menu and switch it to Nacional.
MANY THANKS!!

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wm6 and roaming

just wrote bloody long post and pc crashed in internet cafe-
so gonna write a short one now.
i am running darkforce wm6-very stable does what i want it to do in the uk
howvever in stockholm at present and cannot browse internet or send/recieve email for what will amount to the same the problem.
the handset is obvioulsy unlocked and with t-mobile,but when abroad last year with different wm5 roms -no problems everything worked fine,have spoken to t-mobile who are about as much use as a choclate tea pot
1) when trying to connect to internet-it does nothing-if i force the connection and get it use the csd t-mobile -i get 'failed to dial' message
2) when trying to retrive pop3 email(no exchange server involved) get new message about extra charge as roaming and then it try to connect for a spilt second before displaying error syncronising
i can roam all networks pick everything up?
please help people
hello,
I've no probleme with data connection when roaming my provider is SFR (france) and roaming provider is proximus (belgium).
Have you trying with another roaming provider ?
as many as i can try telia,vodafone se ,iq etc etc
no joy-beginning toi think it is to do with t-mobile
also without stating the obvious, as and when i can find a free wifi-everything works
are you having prob only with your data connection?? back in uk (?) were you using 3g or gprs and lastly in setting/phone/ is the band set to wcdma (3g) or gprs
in uk had set data to auto all have tried every over type- but still does not explain why it worked seamless before -it either is something within the wm6 rom(i doubt) or t-mobile(proable)
but as i m traveling as soon as i get back i would like to get to the bottom of it.
It may not be your Universal - it may be your provider
Did you inform T-Mobile that you were going overseas? They need to activate international roaming on your account...
I've seen this problem before (working in a phone shop and all...), a customer from country xxxxx can't make\receive calls - because international roaming is not active on their account
Roaming worked on WM5, now not on WM6
Hi
I had similar problems. While Roaming previously (From SA (MTN), roaming in Mauritius (on Cellplus and Emtel) under WM5, I had no problems with SMS (text) or data calls.
Recently upgraded to WM6 (Laurentius' V7 VideoCall) and when landing in Mauritius last week, I could not send SMS(text) or connect data. It picked up the network. I did not test normal voice calls, since I usually dont make any while roaming. I simply used my sim card in a different handset for the week, but it was very frustrating, since Ive come to rely heavily on data access while travelling overseas (for email, skype, etc)
Regards
--Cor
Could also be Radio Ver
Hi all, Could you all edit your posts and enter your Radio SStack Ver ?
And if you can remember what Ver you were on when it used to work on WM5.
As stated in the post, the 1.18 Stack had updates for roaming, I haven't had a chance to test it myself, could anyone provide feedback on roaming with 1.18.
Cheers,
Beast
dark force(excellent) and radio 1.15 will try upgrade as leave country in a few weeks
I roam between China, Hong Kong and Taiwan a lot. It appears data works better with some local service providers only. So what I do is when travelling to a new place, know which local providers data network 'roams' better with my China Mobile, by manually selecting, and trying, one by one, on the phone control panel, network selection part. Once I found one that worked, then I manually fix to that one.
Now everytime I travel to a different region, I just do, phone control panel->network->manual-> choose the known good one.
I hope this works in your situation and network providers.
Peter

SIM / APN history?

Something that's been bugging me for a while:
I have an unlocked Touch Diamond -- I once used another operator's SIM card while my number was being ported. Ever since, even after hard-resets, MTTY and many different ROMs and radios, Connection Setup has offered me two setup options: one for my network (Orange UK) and the other for the network I once used (Blyk).
So, even though I haven't used the Blyk SIM in months, I am still being offered connection settings for it automatically and the network doesn't exist anymore!
Does anyone know where this history of networks/APNs is stored and if there is a way to clear them? The only real solution as far as I can see is that they're stored on my Orange SIM, but I can't work out why it would store the Blyk settings...
Thanks.

Nexus S roaming problem with ICS

Hi,
I have a Nexus S I9023 with baseband I9023XXKI1
Provider is Telenet in Belgium, which is a full MVNO with its own MNC
When running any Gingerbread version, the phone works fine when going out of the country, and returning.
But with any ICS rom (stock or CyanogenMod) the phone will not be able to connect to any international providers, when my providers SIM is installed. But when I stick my providers SIM into another phone the SIM will switch over, after which I can put it back into my Nexus S and I can roam to any other international provider without problems, but the phone will not switch back to my own provider when I get back into the country. At this point I again have to put the Telenet SIM into another phone to force it out of roaming mode after which I can put it back into my Nexus S and it works again on my own provider.
I also tried with another Telenet SIM and had the exact same problem, so it is not a problem with the specific SIM itself. But when I stick in a non-Telenet SIM it does switch to roaming and non-roaming without problems. So it clearly is a combination of the ICS ROM with the Telenet SIM.
The only other thing I found is that the MNC code in apns-conf.xml is wrong for Telenet. It is listed as MNC=10 which used to be correct until sometime last year when everyone was issued a new SIM with MNC=05. But with a custom APN setup mobile data works fine.
If anyone has any idea how I could solve this issue, I would love to hear about it!
Cant Activate/Deactivate International Call Roaming on Nexus S.
Hi,
Same issue here, mine is Nexus S, running ICS 4.0.4, baseband version I9020XXKI1. I am not able to make calls in roaming. I spoke to my provider (O2 Germany) and they say that, I have to deactivate the lock (Lock to activate roaming). I haven't found any way to unlock this service. I have not tried what the OP has mentioned in his post (i.e., to put the sim into another phone and then try back in Nexus S). But I would like to know, how can I Activate or Deactivate the roaming lock ??
Thanks,
Cheers!!
esunny said:
Hi,
Same issue here, mine is Nexus S, running ICS 4.0.4, baseband version I9020XXKI1. I am not able to make calls in roaming. I spoke to my provider (O2 Germany) and they say that, I have to deactivate the lock (Lock to activate roaming). I haven't found any way to unlock this service. I have not tried what the OP has mentioned in his post (i.e., to put the sim into another phone and then try back in Nexus S). But I would like to know, how can I Activate or Deactivate the roaming lock ??
Thanks,
Cheers!!
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The only roaming feature you can enable is for Data. This has no effect on roaming for normal phone usage.
You can change this setting under "System Settings" -> "More..." (under Wireless & Networks) -> "Mobile Networks"
Here you will find a "Data roaming" option, and possibly a "National data roaming" option
I have a Desire Z with Android 4.0.4 and Telenet for the cellphone also. I noticed I have to activate the romaing in Belgium to have the data connection which is strange as I'm in Belgium. Now I hear that they can be issues calling/sending sms abroad... I'll see when I'll be in Croatia.
I activated for the moment all the option (data roaming, national roaming) for the moment, nothing more strange than having the romaing activated and the 'R' in the network signal.
National Roaming seems to be needed on some phones, since the Telenet SIM swap last year to get a data connection in Belgium. On my own Nexus S phone I don't have the problem. But on my wife's SE Xperia Mini Pro (2011 model) with stock Android 2.3.4 it does have this issue.
The old sim used MNC=10, while the new SIM uses MNC=05 and it seems that some phones have some kind of issue with that.
MNC is the Mobile Network Code, which together with the MCC (Mobile Country Code) forms a identifier per provider.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code
I narrowed down the issue somewhat.
Basically my prior workaround that the SIM needed to be swapped to another phone to force the network to connect was false.
What actually needs to happen to force the phone to enter or exit roaming is to pull the battery.
Rebooting the phone, or shutting it down and rebooting (cold boot) does not make a difference, the battery needs to be pulled and then the phone will switch networks.
I found this by accident, because I was out of the country and it was as normal refusing to switch to roaming mode. Then the battery died and I connected power to the phone and booted it, and it suddenly connected to a foreign provider in roaming mode.
Getting back to Belgium, it again refused to switch back, so I verified it by just pulling out the battery and putting it back and the phone successfully was able to connect to Telenet again.
In other words, some component needs to be reset for it to successfully switch to roaming and back. This component does not get turned off when the phone is turned off, so the battery needs to be pulled.

[Q] Dual SIM phone roaming / not roaming question

Hi
I have a Zopo ZP950+ with Etotalk ROM, from China, it is a 5.7inch Phablet running stock JB, with Quad Core and DUAL SIM.
http://www.etotalk.com/zopo-zp950-16g_p3854.html
I am in UK, with UK SIM installed (T-Mobile), so at moment not roaming, but phone constantly tells me I am roaming.
I want to use the full 3G/HDSPA connectivity so do not want to disable data.. Under Settings/More/Mobile Networks, there are no options for roaming settings to change, though there is a "data connection - off" option, but I don't want to turn data off, and the roaming warnings are intrusive when sending texts or making calls.
If I can''t "fix" the fact that Roaming indicator is constantly on, even though phone is not roaming, can I hide the warnings every time I make a call or send a text?
Any 3rd party apps out there to help?
Thanks
While I wait for an answer, I will add this: I just tried a giffgaff SIM using O2 network, all is fine, seems to be a problem only with T-Mobile SIM, called T-Mobile they said I needed a replacement SIM card, but this SIM is fine in 2 other un locked (though not Dual SIM) handsets.
guygamps said:
Hi
I have a Zopo ZP950+ with Etotalk ROM, from China, it is a 5.7inch Phablet running stock JB, with Quad Core and DUAL SIM.
http://www.etotalk.com/zopo-zp950-16g_p3854.html
I am in UK, with UK SIM installed (T-Mobile), so at moment not roaming, but phone constantly tells me I am roaming.
I want to use the full 3G/HDSPA connectivity so do not want to disable data.. Under Settings/More/Mobile Networks, there are no options for roaming settings to change, though there is a "data connection - off" option, but I don't want to turn data off, and the roaming warnings are intrusive when sending texts or making calls.
If I can''t "fix" the fact that Roaming indicator is constantly on, even though phone is not roaming, can I hide the warnings every time I make a call or send a text?
Any 3rd party apps out there to help?
Thanks
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more, any help would be appreciated
guygamps said:
While I wait for an answer, I will add this: I just tried a giffgaff SIM using O2 network, all is fine, seems to be a problem only with T-Mobile SIM, called T-Mobile they said I needed a replacement SIM card, but this SIM is fine in 2 other un locked (though not Dual SIM) handsets.
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Replaced SIM card doing same thing, constantly warning of roaming, only difference is signal strength bars are blue, whereas before they were orange.
guygamps said:
Replaced SIM card doing same thing, constantly warning of roaming, only difference is signal strength bars are blue, whereas before they were orange.
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Hi there I have the same issue with my Star Note II N9599 and it too reverts to Roaming and I use Orange UKeven though its now part of EE Network UK but I did find out that the handset is actually Roaming! To check this go into Dial Pad and type *hash*hash3646633hash*hash* then goto Connectivity then down CDS Information the to Radio Information then to Phone 1 and you can see if the Sim in slot 1 is truely Roaming or Not?
I have yet to find a fix for this issue but did also stumble across my Associated Network Radio Bands as follows:
GSM MODE ( SIM TRAY 1 & 2 )
EGSM900 (selected)
DCS1800 (selected)
PCS1900 (selected)
GSM850 (selected)
UMTS MODE ( SIM TRAY 1 ONLY )
WCDMA-IMT-2000 (selected)
WCDMA-PCS-1900 (greyed out)
WCDMA-DCS-1800 (greyed out)
WCDMA-AWS-1700 (greyed out)
WCDMA-CLR-850 (selected)
WCDMA-800 (selected)
WCDMA-IMT-E-2600 (greyed out)
WCDMA-GSM-900 (greyed out)
WCDMA-1800 (greyed out)
WCDMA-1700 (greyed out)
Now at best guess I take it these settings are not correct for the U.K.
If this is so then which BANDS Do I Need and how do I go about changing the greyed out ones that I cannot select to be selected as a usable Radio Band?
I have looked as best I can on Google etc but Im all new to this and not entirely sure what to look for or how to do it if possible?
I have read other sites of users being able to change the Radio Bands for other types of Handsets so I know there must be a way?
I still have the issue where I can set my phone to Register on the Orange network and it connects and gives me 3G with Data but soon after the connection decides to reset to Roaming and drops Data unless I choose to select Data Roaming?

[Q] Why SIM country & operator codes wrong and how were additional APN's installed?

[Q] Why SIM country & operator codes wrong and how were additional APN's installed?
I’m in Ireland, The offices of the Garda Ombudsman (GSOC) was in the papers earlier this year because it was suspected they were being bugged. Also apparently the Gardai have been recording calls to and from police stations for years without the public (or lawyers) being informed. So recording of telephone calls/interception is topical here is topical now.
Wearing my tin-hat, I did a full wipe and installed a Cyanogen-based ROM on my rooted Samsung Galaxy S (i9000). I manually input the correct APN settings for my network operator (48Months/O2-IRL) and I installed Orbot
I never got a network configuration SMS/MMS from the network operator. But somehow, I found also installed (not immediately) were the following APNs:
Eastlink Internet: wisp.mobi.eastlink.ca
Proximus Internet: internet.proximus.be
Eastlink MMS: mms.mobi.eastlink.ca
Proximus MMS: event.proximus.be
It’s a new SIM from when I changed network operator a few months back. The above four APNs were also installed when it came and I queried this to 48 Months with no response. I never saw these APN’s with my previous network operator.
I downloaded a SIM reader app and got the following results:
SIM State - network locked
SIM country code - be
SIM Operator code 20601
SIM IMSI 20601 8816 582453
Phone type - gsm
Network country ID - ie
Net Oper code - 27202
Net Op name - O2 Irl
Net type - HSDPA
Voice roaming - on
Data roaming - off (even though in my phone settings it is showing as on)
So the SIM country code and SIM Operator code are wrong – being for an ISP in Belgium, and also there are those additional APNs which I never installed.
To my simple mind, APN settings are sent by network operators for auto configuration, so these APN’s came from the network operator. However, I have again queried with them and now they say “The tech team have replied this morning to confirm that there is nothing from the network or anything linked with your SIM that would cause your phone to change the settings on your phone.
Due to that they have had no option but to advise you that the phone must be the reason for this.”
But to my knowledge, there are no preinstalled APNs on the ROM (cm-MacKAY ROM Android 4.4.2), and also a 3rd party app can not edit the SIM country code /SIM operator code.
I would love to get an opinion from a developer more familiar with SIMs/APN’s please
Nearly SOLVED
OK, So tin hat is back in its box now...I emailed Eastlink in Canada and they seem to have solved it - very impressive especially when compared with the responses from my network!
"I have had our network team review your question and they have determined there is no security issue and no data traffic that would affect you.
Google has been changing the method that they use for APNs in AOSP. As part of that change APN's are preloaded in Kit Kat. Eastlink's APNs are correctly present in Kit Kat for Home Network Identity 20601.
If you require further assistance with your questions it is recommended the you contact Android Open Source Project or the Cyanogenmod on line.
Thank You for contacting Eastlink Wireless Customer care. "

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