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tethering......busted....

Recieved a text from my wireless carrier stating that my tethering would be cut off or I can pay an additional $30 or so per month. I think it came down to me downloading the OS for an iphone 3gs I've been playing with. Last month I ended up with around 10gb of data usage.
Tried tethering after the deadline date and was directed to a site, stating I need to call customer service. I also tried using data on my phone at this point and was directed to the same site. Call customer service and was told to access their data I would need to give them my phones serial number. go figure.... after the past two years of playing with various phones, nexus one, vibrant, hd2, iphone 4, iphone 3gs, nexus s.... they want to know what Im using .....
Solution????
a different android phone again, with tethering.
or
drop my sim card into my iphone 3gs for a few hours and switch back to the mytouch 4g

DUDE
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine

Seeing as how you are getting the same site from the phone browser and the computer browser, it seems they just assume, not know you are tethering. The hold should go off after your billing month is up. If not, well do they know you have a smart phone, or are you using it on a feature phone plan? If it is the later, then giving them a smart phone serial will probably make them change your plan to a smart phone plan.

I heard if you use the stock tethering app they charge you... what if you use the one that's built into CM 7? isn't that the same as using android-wifi-teather? I was always unclear about that

Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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witeboy07 said:
Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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Well for lite usage you won't have problem. But if you are using bandwidth excessively they will notice it and based on using DPI/SPI techniques they can determine which service and protocol is being used. They would never want people to use free bandwidth when they can get people to pay money for same exact thing. Talk about milking the cow for all its worth lol.

Before the mytouch I had a hd7 and before that the first 4g I had was the g2..download were massive and big..never got caught...I was always using the stock T-Mobile tether option..I guess cus I'm on an old unlimited android web plan...
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Yes I did milk it, downloading the os for the iphone probably did it, will wait till cycle is over and do basic tethering again. Im going to my iphone and switch back to see if that works as well.

keepitfashion said:
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine
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tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,

Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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paczek said:
Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
osugsxr said:
tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,
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I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.

hkbladelawhk said:
Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.
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Yes I do use the tethering hotpsot often for internet at home. I downloaded the app you recommend, will test it out for awhile to see if itll make a difference and still allow me to tether.

I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
Update-June 1: If you have a Android data package Tethering is FREE.
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RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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I'm not with tmobile, I have been using android phones for over a year plus, starting with the nexus one. I have always been tethering and kept my data around 5-6gbs per month. Last month I hit the 11 or 12gb mark, and within the first week of the new month I was already up to 3.5gbs. Mainly from downloading the Iphone OS, and other tools I needed.
Over the past year, I never once was charged for tethering nor was I warned about it. You shouldn't need to worry about tethering with tmobile, if you hit the 5gb of data they will cut your speeds. I download the tethering app from the first page of this post, and it seems to be working fine as of now.

RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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Yea. I've wondered this as well. I wonder at what point they charge us for tethering and how they prove it. Staying around that 5gb per month.
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Mobile Hotspot working?

My phone still says its available for no additional charge, and works also.

dtarules said:
My phone still says its available for no additional charge, and works also.
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Works for me but maybe the expiration date was for today. So maybe it will be officially taken away tomorrow
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Works for me
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Same here, no problem
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tethering and loving it.

It may be rolling out slowly (The end of the free promo) I saw a couple of people on Android Central say after they did a restart they got a popup stating the promo was over when they tried to use it. Not sure how accurate their story is though.

I just tried tethering, told me I had to call Verizon to subscribe.

I have a friend has a charge and it tells him to call to add the service.

I just checked. I still get the free tethering promo notice when I turn it on and it still works.

Still works for me, BUT I also paid for tethering before switching to the tb, maybe it just automatically added it back and isn't telling me yet. Mom did say something about an email from verizon a few days ago saying a feature had been added to my line, even though i never changed anything. When i go on to the site to see if its there it isn't, but the new data plans are, but nothing about hotspot with the grandfathered unlimited plan, which has me worried i may have to switch to tiered to get it back.
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I am in CM7 and it turned on fine for me. Although, I am not sure how it is SUPPOSE to work in CM7 once it expires.

Officially not working for me (USA, NY/NJ/CT tristate area). As soon as I try it enable "Mobile Hotspot" in the settings, automatically pops up a prompt, you have to subscribe to $30 a month tethering plan. I'm using Wireless Tether app and it still works fine though.

Still working for me, down here in Tucson AZ. Phone had originally been rooted but has been bone stock for about a week now.

Still working for me in ATL

Works fine with me on CM7 RC1.2
Even on 4G

Still works in mi
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FYI, please specify the ROM. I think this update will only affect the stock ROMs if I'm not mistaken. I am on stock rooted MR2 ROM.

I'm stock. Still works for free for me in NC.
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I called Verizon yesterday regarding this unlimited hotspot deal. I got a lady who tried to be very helpful and ended up talking to her supervisor. I had MHS on my account before I upgraded to the TB but was told that with the free promotion that service was terminated the day I bought the TB. I asked how to get the $30 unlimited MHS and was told it was an urban legend and wasn't being offered. He told me that I was grandfathered on the unlimited 4G but if I wanted MHS after the free promotion ended, I'd have to sign up for one of the tiered plans that had the MHS included. Otherwise I was out of luch. Obviously I declined. He said that they had received hundreds of queries about this as well and he was told to tell them all the same thing.
Since then I've read posts on other sites where they were able to sign up with verizon for the unlimited MHS but it took tenacity and determination to get the Verizon rep to figure it out.
Online in MyVerizon, there is no MHS option seperate apart from switching to a tiered deal. I'm still getting it free so I'll just wait and see for now.

In NYC, stock TB never rooted.
Still works as of 9am ET

[Q] Get sprint to release my DEC number

I bought a new Nexus S 4G off craigslist. When i got it calling plan worked and everything. I've made several attempts to contact the seller, they did reply but they never deactivated the phone. I called Sprint, they told me they need them to release the number and provide an exchange phone to move the current plan onto.
tl;dr Is there a way to deactivate this phone if the seller decides not to cooperate with me?

Sounds like you got Uncle-Jimmied.

tylerwatt12 said:
I bought a new Nexus S 4G off craigslist. When i got it calling plan worked and everything. I've made several attempts to contact the seller, they did reply but they never deactivated the phone. I called Sprint, they told me they need them to release the number and provide an exchange phone to move the current plan onto.
tl;dr Is there a way to deactivate this phone if the seller decides not to cooperate with me?
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No. The seller will have to deactivate the phone or activate another phone on that line which would release the nexus.
This is why you always meet the person from Craigslist at a sprint store so the store can check the status of the phone before you hand over the money. Good luck!
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remedy is correct. But why wouldn't the seller deactivate it for you?
Boy I sure do not miss cdma phones.

CDMA workshop, qpst, qxdm and such.....?
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atrixboy said:
CDMA workshop, qpst, qxdm and such.....?
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What are those software going to do for him, unless you're suggesting something wink wink like ESN modifying
O.P is out of luck unless the seller deactivates the line (pays the bill/cancels the contract e.t.c). Next time, take 2 mins call customer service and verify ESN/MEID before exchanging cash.

So the phone is still on his plan? Hmmm time to start charging some Gameloft games to his account and some adult phone numbers. Might as well screw him over since he is doing the same to you
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BrianDigital said:
So the phone is still on his plan? Hmmm time to start charging some Gameloft games to his account and some adult phone numbers. Might as well screw him over since he is doing the same to you
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LOL I was just going to say this!

BrianDigital said:
So the phone is still on his plan? Hmmm time to start charging some Gameloft games to his account and some adult phone numbers. Might as well screw him over since he is doing the same to you
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1. you can call sprint to verify that an ESN is clean - no need to meet in a Sprint store, wait in line, etc.
2. (referring to the above quote) Just because the phone is tied to someone's account does not mean that you can charge things to it, call porn, etc. I am sure is has been deactivated, but is still linked to the previous account. Meaning that it is just plain useless.

Oh, how much I love SIM cards.
Any other way to operate a device is just archaic.

ronnienyc said:
1. you can call sprint to verify that an ESN is clean - no need to meet in a Sprint store, wait in line, etc.
2. (referring to the above quote) Just because the phone is tied to someone's account does not mean that you can charge things to it, call porn, etc. I am sure is has been deactivated, but is still linked to the previous account. Meaning that it is just plain useless.
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If you would have read the op you would know it is still able to make calls, texts, and data on the sellers plan.....
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Rem3Dy said:
If you would have read the op you would know it is still able to make calls, texts, and data on the sellers plan.....
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...which the O.P would have found out if he had taken 2 minutes to call C.S and see if the ESN was still active on an account. Either way, he is screwed. How long till Sprint cuts off the line due to non payment, and in either case, the ESN is no good to the O.P.
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Sprint wouldn't help me. I fixed it myself.
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tylerwatt12 said:
Sprint wouldn't help me. I fixed it myself.
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How?

Free App for WiFi Tethering NO ROOT NECESSARY

FoxFi https://market.android.com/details?id=com.foxfi
Allows wifi tethering from most Samsung phones and Motorola phones, LG Optimus/Vortex/Ally, ZTE N762, HuaWei Comet. WiFi mode does NOT work on any HTC phones or the first Motorola Droid/Triumph, use Bluetooth mode instead.
You can connect from any tablets or computers. Access Point is infrastructure mode with WPA2 security.
And it's FREE!
Came across this after having problems with Barnacle and Wireless Tether after upgrading to ICS.

Curious as I am.......does anyone that's been grandfathered on the unlimited plans tether? And how do you go about keeping AT&T from switching you to the tethering plan?
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Gr8Danes said:
Curious as I am.......does anyone that's been grandfathered on the unlimited plans tether? And how do you go about keeping AT&T from switching you to the tethering plan?
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I'm grandfathered on unlimited, and when I tried to do tethering through settings, it came back with a message saying my account wasn't allowed to tether. It worked first time I did it the first week I had my phone. I just tried Foxfi, and I didn't get that message. I'll keep an eye and make sure no funky changes happen to my plan.
Oh, now I'm ticked, I just checked my plan and they changed me off of it when they never said they were doing that at the store!

Riehlthing said:
I'm grandfathered on unlimited, and when I tried to do tethering through settings, it came back with a message saying my account wasn't allowed to tether. It worked first time I did it the first week I had my phone. I just tried Foxfi, and I didn't get that message. I'll keep an eye and make sure no funky changes happen to my plan.
Oh, now I'm ticked, I just checked my plan and they changed me off of it when they never said they were doing that at the store!
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If it was within the last 60 days, then you can argue it back. I had a hell of a time getting mine back over 60 days. I had to go the IPhone cheater way to get mine back.

Gr8Danes said:
If it was within the last 60 days, then you can argue it back. I had a hell of a time getting mine back over 60 days. I had to go the IPhone cheater way to get mine back.
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I just got my Skyrocket mid-February. About 3 days before the Note was launched. I thought about getting a Note for using with school, but decided against it. Keeping my Captivate as a back-up.
Thanks, I'll give them a call.

Thank you.
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Riehlthing said:
I just got my Skyrocket mid-February. About 3 days before the Note was launched. I thought about getting a Note for using with school, but decided against it. Keeping my Captivate as a back-up.
Thanks, I'll give them a call.
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Let me know how it goes and if they give you any guff.
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Has anyone verified this works?

Altarocks said:
Has anyone verified this works?
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yes it is working, but in case if is not use this one Free WiFi Tethering

Gr8Danes said:
If it was within the last 60 days, then you can argue it back. I had a hell of a time getting mine back over 60 days. I had to go the IPhone cheater way to get mine back.
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With school and all, was really busy and didn't have a chance to call in until today. They switched it back for me, no problems. Just took a little to get the supervisor to do it. Which, since I have worked for T-Mobile and Sprint, I know that supervisors have to do the override, but work with the normal agent nicely, and they will know who to get to change it. Stay nice, you'll usually get things done.
And yes, that app works for tethering, I added it to my main page so I can access it quickly. Can't wait to have LTE in Portland and use it with my laptop.

anybody got taken out of grandfathered unli data because of this app yet???

I use foxfi too. But has anyone encountered the tether plan hammer from att? At first i got a bit worried about this and couldn't find any answers through Google as they had similar opinion to mine.
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I have unlimited and have not had a problem yet.except throttled after 5gb.
head band or khem I'm feeling kind of sour

I've been using foxfi for a while, but I haven't used it for more than 15 minutes at one time so I'm not sure if AT&T knows.
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Do NOT update to ICS yet

I was at a VZW center yesterday, and one of the reps (to who his credit, didn't sound like a complete idiot like a lot of the employees there.)
Anyway, he told me that if you have the $30 unlimited tethering promo that was optional for a short time when the Tbolt came out...once you update to ICS you will lose it.
I don't know if what the rep said was true or not, but just felt I should give anyone who might be in this situation a heads up.
Sorry, if this has already been mentioned, by the way...I just wanted to get it out there quickly.

That salesman's knowledge seems questionable
Fail on reading comprehension on my part...I read that as unlimited data not unlimited tethering. I thought they lost a court case recently where they couldn't charge for tethering anymore? (Found a link, can't post it, yay new user, but if you google "verizon court case tethering" you should find several articles about it) At any rate I imagine as long as you keep root they can't really stop you from tethering.

nuggetfn22004 said:
Fail on reading comprehension on my part...I read that as unlimited data not unlimited tethering. I thought they lost a court case recently where they couldn't charge for tethering anymore? (Found a link, can't post it, yay new user, but if you google "verizon court case tethering" you should find several articles about it) At any rate I imagine as long as you keep root they can't really stop you from tethering.
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Yeah with root, I don't think they can do anything about you tethering. I personally have used my rooted tethering for some really data-intensive power sessions--like 10-15GB a week while I was away (VZW was much faster than the local wifi at my hotel where I was doing after-hours work). Never heard a peep from Verizon about it.

They're allowed to provide their own paid tethering service, they just aren't allowed to force you to use that or use nothing. In other words, they can't tell you not to use a free app for the same thing.
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tm24fan8 said:
They're allowed to provide their own paid tethering service, they just aren't allowed to force you to use that or use nothing. In other words, they can't tell you not to use a free app for the same thing.
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I believe the actual compromise was that if you were on a tiered data plan, they weren't allowed to prevent you from tethering, and they can't prevent you from installing the app regardless, but they could prevent you from tethering if you are using one of the grandfathered "unlimited" plans?

They can't prevent you from using it nor can they even prove that you are using it. If they could I would have been charged thousands of dollars already since I've been using WiFi tether for about 4 years now.
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I know awhile back I mentioned to a verizon rep that they couldn't prove if I was tethering and he went on a long defensive rant about how they monitor your usage and if it spikes they know you are tethering. It took a lot of self-restraint to keep from laughing in his face. I guess they figure most people won't do outside research and just listen to whatever they're spoon fed by verizon.

I have unlimited data so that is a crock of ****. They can tell if I use a lot of data and that is about it. They can't tell if it resulted from tethering. 95% of my data usage comes from using my phone to download roms.
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disconnecktie said:
I have unlimited data so that is a crock of ****. They can tell if I use a lot of data and that is about it. They can't tell if it resulted from tethering. 95% of my data usage comes from using my phone to download roms.
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Yeah, they just try to use scare tactics on people who don't know any better. Since tethering goes through the phone, it shows the same on their network regardless of whether its the phone or 10 other devices connected to the phone doing the downloading.

If you use their hot spot and it isn't the hacked version I think they can tell. I'm not sure though and wouldn't take that risk.
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disconnecktie said:
They can't prevent you from using it nor can they even prove that you are using it. If they could I would have been charged thousands of dollars already since I've been using WiFi tether for about 4 years now.
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The big fun will come when you get the letter saying, "We understand you've used thousands of dollars worth of tethering but we see you've failed to declare this as taxable income.
We figure you owe $xxx,xxx.xx plus interest and penalties.
Love ya, the IRS!

xs11e said:
The big fun will come when you get the letter saying, "We understand you've used thousands of dollars worth of tethering but we see you've failed to declare this as taxable income.
We figure you owe $xxx,xxx.xx plus interest and penalties.
Love ya, the IRS!
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Lol last time I checked the verizon corporation wasn't apart of the irs. Just saying....
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But you can bet the IRS keeps track of VZW AND VZW customers :crying:

xs11e said:
But you can bet the IRS keeps track of VZW AND VZW customers :crying:
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Nah maybe verizon but not me.
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Im a little confused, since im pretty new to the t-bolt since i bought it on ebay a few months ago. If i use a free tether app, will VZW NOT charge me for data? on my old moto x2 using a root tether app meant you still got charged for data, but not for the tethering service. Is this different on the TB?

ryan1407 said:
Im a little confused, since im pretty new to the t-bolt since i bought it on ebay a few months ago. If i use a free tether app, will VZW NOT charge me for data? on my old moto x2 using a root tether app meant you still got charged for data, but not for the tethering service. Is this different on the TB?
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If you're on a limited data plan, tethering uses your data. If you're on an unlimited plan you're supposed to pay a monthly fee to use tethering, however, there are apps that you can use to get around this.

Classic Verizon reps, think they're smarter than you... No I'm only here because I need a SIM card and corporate says you can't just give me a SIM card, you have to do it yourself.... Of course that's changed now, but boy that was a *****. I hate giving them my brand new phones, too, I've heard stories where they screw up the battery cover and such.
Woo rant!
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nuggetfn22004 said:
I guess they figure most people won't do outside research and just listen to whatever they're spoon fed by verizon.
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When paid by Verizon I assume one becomes a mouthpiece for Verizon, and it makes some logical sense for them to preach Verizon's sermons to all who aren't tech savvy.
That said, I did a doubletake on the OP, as I have the unlimited data and I sometimes tether while on the road (yay root). Tbh, I (ab)use an app called DropSync to do some crazy stuff with DropBox, and when I'm not on WiFi for a time it's common for me to rack up 10GB+ from just that. I really haven't got as much usage from my tethering. So if anyone from Verizon ever got after me for tethering, I'd just disable my WiFi and let them watch me push a ton thru my LTE, just to be spiteful. :victory:

Screw them tether away!!!!
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why not??
why not??i just flash santod stock ics last month..no problema at all...