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I've flashed a few roms now (masters stock rooted voodoo versions of nexus s firmware) and every time I do the boot logo just keeps on going until I do a battery pull and reboot, and then it's ok.
It's not a problem, I just wondered why this happens??
did you wipe dalvik, factory settings, cache?
did you change the kernel?
zephiK said:
did you wipe dalvik, factory settings, cache?
did you change the kernel?
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No. These roms don't wipe anything and I don't want to lose my stuff. I don't think you are meant to wipe with them either.
buachaille said:
No. These roms don't wipe anything and I don't want to lose my stuff. I don't think you are meant to wipe with them either.
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I was asking if YOU did wipe them because if you're going from one ROM to the other ROM you are supposed to wipe.
You lose your settings and apps. Back them up using Titanium Backup (Or any other related app).
Or.. better yet, just perform a nandroid backup. After that, wipe those 3 and reboot. See if the problem is resolved, if it is then you already know. If not then nandroid restore.
If you're going from one ROM to a completely different ROM made by someone else, you have to wipe data/factory settings!
If you're flashing an updated version of the current rom you're using, wipe cache/dalvik-cache.
If you're flashing different roms every other day, go buy Titanium Backup to backup your apps/settings.
And uh what ROM are u flashing where "you're not meant to wipe"
-Nexus S
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If you're going from one ROM to a completely different ROM made by someone else, you have to wipe data/factory settings!
If you're flashing an updated version of the current rom you're using, wipe cache/dalvik-cache.
If you're flashing different roms every other day, go buy Titanium Backup to backup your apps/settings.
And uh what ROM are u flashing where "you're not meant to wipe"
-Nexus S
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I am new to this so I'm still getting my head around it.
From stock I went to the rooted voodoo version of this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971690.
From there I went to the stock rooted version of this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979851
In both cases it says:
Rom Information:
Does it wipe: No
Does it flash the radio: Yes
So since they don't wipe, I assumed I shouldn't wipe anything, but it looks like I was wrong. From your post it looks like I should have wiped the cache and dalvik cache. I know how to do this in CW but I've never done it and my roms are working fine.
So next time master releases an update I gather I should wipe cache and dalvik cache yeah?
Also, when I do this will it remove any of my settings or apps?
Hope you can answer these questions, and thanks for advice so far.
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Just did a bit of googling and it looks like you don't lose settings when you wipe dalvik cache and cache, so what does actually get removed.
There is a thread stickied in development called ref roms themes and kernels. It gives step by step directions on how to flash all three including what should be wiped. Check it out
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It says:
Does it wipe: No
Does it flash the radio: Yes
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because its saying that the ROM doesn't wipe. Some ROMs are built in a way so that it automatically wipes your phone to ensure best performance. The creator is just saying that it doesn't do that BUT you need to wipe. The keyword does and need are two different things. The basic concept between going from 1 ROM to another (unless its the same ROM series) requires a wipe in all three: dalvik, cache, factory. If you're going from the same ROM to a newer version and encounter bugs, its best if you wipe.
I'm a more advanced user when it comes to Android since the first Android phone. I know what I'm talking about. When you go from stock ROM to another, its going to have bugs if you don't wipe.
If you're using Axura 1.1.1.0 and its fine, and he releases a new version. You can flash without wiping (but you can wipe cache & dalvik to be safe; none of your settings will be wiped). Wiping factory settings is the only one that will wipe your settings / apps.
If you're going to be a flasher, its best if you purchase Titanium Backup Pro (or MyBackup.. but I highly recommend Titanium Backup). Use this program and it will save all of your apps + settings to them. Just don't use it to save SYSTEM apps/files because it will cause FCs.
Dalvik Cache / Cache.. its nothing you need to know in particular. It's just removing cache that your phone set up to increase speeds. It just wipes them and gets the Android system to re-establish them. So no caches from the previous ROM will carry over onto the new one.
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zephiK said:
It says:
because its saying that the ROM doesn't wipe. Some ROMs are built in a way so that it automatically wipes your phone to ensure best performance. The creator is just saying that it doesn't do that BUT you need to wipe. The keyword does and need are two different things. The basic concept between going from 1 ROM to another (unless its the same ROM series) requires a wipe in all three: dalvik, cache, factory. If you're going from the same ROM to a newer version and encounter bugs, its best if you wipe.
I'm a more advanced user when it comes to Android since the first Android phone. I know what I'm talking about. When you go from stock ROM to another, its going to have bugs if you don't wipe.
If you're using Axura 1.1.1.0 and its fine, and he releases a new version. You can flash without wiping (but you can wipe cache & dalvik to be safe; none of your settings will be wiped). Wiping factory settings is the only one that will wipe your settings / apps.
If you're going to be a flasher, its best if you purchase Titanium Backup Pro (or MyBackup.. but I highly recommend Titanium Backup). Use this program and it will save all of your apps + settings to them. Just don't use it to save SYSTEM apps/files because it will cause FCs.
Dalvik Cache / Cache.. its nothing you need to know in particular. It's just removing cache that your phone set up to increase speeds. It just wipes them and gets the Android system to re-establish them. So no caches from the previous ROM will carry over onto the new one.
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That is a very helpful post and clears a lot up. Many thanks. Looks like I had better do it again and do it right this time.
I've got titanium backup. Bought it after I rooted, but never restored with it yet. Also, thanks for the info about no saving system files with it, as I currently do have it setup to backup all user apps and system data, so I will have to change that. I gather I should just change it to all user apps??
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That is a very helpful post and clears a lot up. Many thanks. Looks like I had better do it again and do it right this time.
I've got titanium backup. Bought it after I rooted, but never restored with it yet. Also, thanks for the info about no saving system files with it, as I currently do have it setup to backup all user apps and system data, so I will have to change that. I gather I should just change it to all user apps??
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Backup all user apps is the one you want to do. You can backup bookmarks using Google sync or a app known as BookmarkSB
If you have system apps backed up, delete all backups using batch and reapply user app backup
zephiK said:
Backup all user apps is the one you want to do. You can backup bookmarks using Google sync or a app known as BookmarkSB
If you have system apps backed up, delete all backups using batch and reapply user app backup
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Thanks for your help. I reflashed the rom and I did it properly this time. Had a bit of a problem with TB restore as I'm a noob but Joel from TB answered an email I sent him very quickly and I got it sorted (thanks joel).
How long does it take to flash a rom once you get good at it? Took me a while tonight because of mistakes.
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buachaille said:
Thanks for your help. I reflashed the rom and I did it properly this time. Had a bit of a problem with TB restore as I'm a noob but Joel from TB answered an email I sent him very quickly and I got it sorted (thanks joel).
How long does it take to flash a rom once you get good at it? Took me a while tonight because of mistakes.
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I can usually get from booting into recovery to having a usable device with most everything set up in about...10 minutes? Assuming I already downloaded the ROM lol sometimes those mirrors are slooooooow.
I recently upgraded my phone from HTC Sense 3.0 to 3.5.
I did so using the following:
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Energy_2.6.2012.Sensation.Sense.3.5
Now, everything is working fine except for one tiny little thing.
It reboots randomly.
Any ideas?
what the development thread for that particular ROM says? Does other users experience the same?
did you follow all instructions for flashing the ROM?
Open post for thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226564
[ROM][ICS] |June 24| Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Sense / ICS / Blue / Tweaks ¯´·.¸¸. -
How to Flash this ROM:
- Root your device
- Install a custom recovery
- Install the downloaded ROM .zip found in post #3
- Make sure to do a Factory Reset / Wipe before installing ROM
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what the development thread for that particular ROM says? Does other users experience the same?
did you follow all instructions for flashing the ROM?
Open post for thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226564
[ROM][ICS] |June 24| Energy™ -.¸¸.·´¯ Sense / ICS / Blue / Tweaks ¯´·.¸¸. -
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I didn't factory reset it before installing it. Do you reckon I should factory reset and reinstall?
this is what the dev recommends for his ROM, not me (of course, if the ROM you are using is the same I referred to)
a) it would help if the ROM is not buggy itself
b) if to ask me? I wipe all partitions except SD card, and it works for me (factory reset is precaution)
p.s.also be sure to have the same firmware the dev is recommending.
zieglercol said:
this is what the dev recommends for his ROM, not me (of course, if the ROM you are using is the same I referred to)
a) it would help if the ROM is not buggy itself
b) if to ask me? I wipe all partitions except SD card, and it works for me (factory reset is precaution)
p.s.also be sure to have the same firmware the dev is recommending.
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I'm using the older ROM.
Code:
Gingerbread 2.3.5 ROM with Sense 3.5 !
How would I know if it's the ROM that is causing it?
Partitions? I don't think there are any.
where did you get that ROM in the first place?
I tried to search for the original thread, but couldn't locate it
about partitions - what kind of recovery tool are you using - ClockWordMod?
there are several partitions you can format manually - system, dalvik, cache
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where did you get that ROM in the first place?
I tried to search for the original thread, but couldn't locate it
about partitions - what kind of recovery tool are you using - ClockWordMod?
there are several partitions you can format manually - system, dalvik, cache
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22736439&postcount=3
There's the download link for it. It's in the same thread.
I'm using clockworkmod, yes.
So, from the same thread -
General rule of thumb before flashing:
- Unless specified, you don't need to Superwipe.
- However, before flashing, boot to recovery - wipe cache. Advanced - wipe dalvik. Now flash the new NRGZ Rom.
- Problems? Goto Settings - applications - HTC Sense - Wipe Data
- Still problems? Superwipe, as explained in FAQ 10.
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FAQ 10
Q10: I was on stock (or another rom from another cook) and I flashed NRGZ ROM, now I am having some problems.
A:
1. Try rebooting the Phone and see if it makes a difference.
2. Reboot into recovery and clear cache and dalvik, reboot the phone and clear data of the apps causing problem.
3. If nothing else works, “SUPERWIPE”. Beware: A superwipe/ full wipe will erase EVERYTHING on the phone. EVERYTHING! So, be sure to backup what you want.
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SuperWipe is flashable zip from CWM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16321299&postcount=1784
if you cared about your sms, call logs, contacts, apps and settings make a backup. if not - then just wipe and install the ROM
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So, from the same thread -
FAQ 10
SuperWipe is flashable zip from CWM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16321299&postcount=1784
if you cared about your sms, call logs, contacts, apps and settings make a backup. if not - then just wipe and install the ROM
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All I care about are my contacts. And they are stored on Googles Servers
(same preference as for me..)
then go ahead and report back
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(same preference as for me..)
then go ahead and report back
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The re-installation is complete. Now we play the waiting game and see if it's shutting down.
Well it's been about an hour now and it has not shut down yet.
Seems like it worked!
Okay, now this is just ****ing weird. It didn't restart itself in like forever. And then when I went to bed it instantly restarted itself.
Now, I've restored the phone 3 or 4 times(I've had several restore points). But it's still restarting randomly.
I'm just really confused right now.
At this moment my phone is not currently on any new ROM.
I have now reinstalled my phone with ics. It's been running now for 12 hours without restarting. So I'm guessing It's fixed.
Just make sure you wipe everything before flashing
I was one who hated doing a factory reset and reinstalling everything. I dirty flashed Codename Android 3.32 over my old ICS and everything seemed fine. If I tried to update to 3.3.4 I had problems and the only way everything was cleaned up was by a wipe and reset. I follow the following rules and had everything going again in 15minutes after following a link on android forums "Full wipe. What's the big deal? Steps to take (15 mins)" since I can't post the link just follow the search.
Without the link this thread is pretty pointless.
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search the term to get the link
I am restricted and can't put up the link but if you just do a search for the term.
( Full wipe. What's the big deal? Steps to take (15 mins)" )
you will find the site and it's worth it if you constantly change roms..
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I am restricted and can't put up the link but if you just do a search for the term.
( Full wipe. What's the big deal? Steps to take (15 mins)" )
you will find the site and it's worth it if you constantly change roms..
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Ok well flashing codename over stock ics is pretty silly in itself first of all.
I don't know why we get so many threads on wiping. It's pretty simple:
If you are flashing nightlies, USUALLY you can just wipe cache and dalvik and be ok. If you DO get problems then you should do a full wipe (system,data,boot and cache). This way you dont post about bugs you think the rom has, where it is actually bugs from dirty flashing.
When flashing different ROM's, you need to full wipe. Always.
With titanium you can backup your apps, so restoring apps take literally a few minutes.
if you get a cluster f*#@ of problems then clean install. It isn't that hard. Use Titanium Backup and good to go.
In Recovery:
1. wipe data/factory reset (this formats /data, /cache and .android_secure on sd)
2. format /system, /boot
this leaves you with only bootloader, recovery and radio...dalvik-cache resides on /data, so it's gone already.
3. flash rom
4. gapps & custom-kernel (if needed). No need to let the phone boot & settle before flashing them (most custom-kernels have a script that automatically wipes /cache & dalvik during kernel-install)
5. reboot
6. Run TB -- restore missing apps with data --1st option under restore
just updating rom:
1. flash rom-zip
2. wipe /cache and dalvik-cache
3. reboot
Do this before reporting any issues on the thread since the problems are often related to this and not the ROM or kernel.
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hi
Ive just installed Cleanrom, and it seems slower than the stock rom i used before.
I wonder if i should have done a system format in cwm, as doing this for Slimbean on my SGS helped quite a bit...
thanks
geoslake said:
hi
Ive just installed Cleanrom, and it seems slower than the stock rom i used before.
I wonder if i should have done a system format in cwm, as doing this for Slimbean on my SGS helped quite a bit...
thanks
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Format system is when you delete your ROM, if you want a clean install, yeah you should format system. This also depends on what ROM you want to flash. If you're going to flash stock, format system is good. I do it all the time when I flash stock
But I can also do it whatever the rom, right ? I mean if I upgrade from Cleanrom from 3.03 to 3.04, I cannot go wrong doing that ? (although they don't talk about formatting system in the guidelines).
Thank you
Format system is when you delete your ROM, if you want a clean install, yeah you should format system. This also depends on what ROM you want to flash. If you're going to flash stock, format system is good. I do it all the time when I flash stock
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format system basically deletes all your system apps, which really isn't worth to do in an update from v3.0.3 to 3.0.4 - if it's a big update with many more apps included maybe it's worth, but otherways it's waste of time...
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format system basically deletes all your system apps, which really isn't worth to do in an update from v3.0.3 to 3.0.4 - if it's a big update with many more apps included maybe it's worth, but otherways it's waste of time...
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System app? When I use twrp it said wipe system removes ROM, I guess on cwm is called format system.
Well, I guess "format system" should format system (=wipe the os i guess), not remove apps...
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Well, I guess "format system" should format system (=wipe the os i guess), not remove apps...
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Hmmm why don't you use twrp. It's much better haha
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Hmmm why don't you use twrp. It's much better haha
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Guess so, I guess its no problem to overwrite CWM with TWRP (as long as I load the right version, that is, JB as im on Cleanrom Inheritance 2.7.2)...
Format system on twrp and cwm means the same thing.
When you flash any ROM, all it does is place everything in the /system partition, and sometimes a kernel is also flashed.. this partition contains all files that make up android. All the apps that come with roms, all mods, themes, framework.. everything is here.
When /system is wiped, it deletes all these files to make way for a new rom. Most roms wipe system automatically when they get flashed anyway :good:
However, I think that cleanrom 3.0.3 is a dependancy for 3.0.4, this means that 3.0.4 requires the 3.0.3 system files to work properly. Check the cleanrom changelog or install instructions
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Nothing happens, it just clears your data.
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System app? When I use twrp it said wipe system removes ROM, I guess on cwm is called format system.
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I'm sorry, I was thinking of /system/app lol
I think the updates should rule that themselves that they delete the unnecessary things of an old version, so it's only recommended if you change your ROM or update to a ROM based on a later Android Version (4.1 to 4.2 or vice versa) or from AOSP to stock...
Otherwise it's just waste of time I think, I never used it and never had problems, so I think it's pretty good ruled in the updater scripts of the ROMs
Can i install roms on System 1, who and how? pls help, i dont want to break my phone, i 've LiquidSmooth but on System 3, i need more space and the only way its installing on system 1..
Who other roms can i install on system 1, and who are requirement? thx for your help :good::cyclops:
Yes, you can. In fact, I am using just System 1 (AOSB) as my daily ROM.
I don't know if this is required, but I'm always doing the following:
1. Format /system, /data, /cache
2. Wipe System, Cache, Dalvik Cache
3. Install ROM
4. Install GApps
I never had any problems since.
Goodluck mate!
Cheers,
Rae
I have never used any other system other than system 1 as daily driver..i don't know y ppl are so scared to flash..same time two years back we didn't even have a recovery on boot and still used to flash roms courtesy rdavisct, alteredlikeness, jimbridgman n co..this whole concept of multiple systems has made things more complicated than before it seems
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devilhunter47 said:
I have never used any other system other than system 1 as daily driver..i don't know y ppl are so scared to flash..same time two years back we didn't even have a recovery on boot and still used to flash roms courtesy rdavisct, alteredlikeness, jimbridgman n co..this whole concept of multiple systems has made things more complicated than before it seems
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To the steps mentioned above
Wipe battery stats
After installation go to system keeper option
Install bmm to main system
Reboot
Safer this way
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Raeshabu said:
Yes, you can. In fact, I am using just System 1 (AOSB) as my daily ROM.
I don't know if this is required, but I'm always doing the following:
1. Format /system, /data, /cache
2. Wipe System, Cache, Dalvik Cache
3. Install ROM
4. Install GApps
I never had any problems since.
Goodluck mate!
Cheers,
Rae
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Thaankss..! bro im gonna try it now..! i did a back up of stock 4.0.4
devilhunter47 said:
I have never used any other system other than system 1 as daily driver..i don't know y ppl are so scared to flash..same time two years back we didn't even have a recovery on boot and still used to flash roms courtesy rdavisct, alteredlikeness, jimbridgman n co..this whole concept of multiple systems has made things more complicated than before it seems
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To the steps mentioned above
Wipe battery stats
After installation go to system keeper option
Install bmm to main system
Reboot
Safer this way
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ohhh i'm really thankful , i was nervous but with this steps i'm sure of wait i'm going to do..
saga02 said:
Thaankss..! bro im gonna try it now..! i did a back up of stock 4.0.4
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Good luck mate! :good:
@devilhunter47
Thanks for the additional info.
Anyways, I never install BMM after flashing ROMs because it auto-installs after you press back from Install from Zip. Or maybe we just have different experiences regarding this.
Thank you again! :highfive: :good:
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Good luck mate! :good:
@devilhunter47
Thanks for the additional info.
Anyways, I never install BMM after flashing ROMs because it auto-installs after you press back from Install from Zip. Or maybe we just have different experiences regarding this.
Thank you again! :highfive: :good:
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Sometimes it fails to and i had to fxz
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devilhunter47 said:
Sometimes it fails to and i had to fxz
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guys i've a problem, when the installations finish i did "system keeper option", and then show me a mistake, saying "BBM will not start after reboot", and now the phone dont show me BBM and only restart and restart :/ i dont know what to do now, because i can enter to bbm and fix this :S.. I can not even go to android, is happening and I did wrong? : ( And how to fix this please help ..!
Raeshabu said:
Good luck mate! :good:
@devilhunter47
Thanks for the additional info.
Anyways, I never install BMM after flashing ROMs because it auto-installs after you press back from Install from Zip. Or maybe we just have different experiences regarding this.
Thank you again! :highfive: :good:
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Heelpp..! BMM not appear, and the phone stayed restarting does nothing but nothing out of the motorola logo screen goes black for a minute and not start, should show BBM but no longer does, and prior to the reboot when installation is complete and I gave keeper system option "Install bmm to main system" not only told me BBM started after reboot and so did not know what to do now ..: S can not access the system 3 is where I have q my other system: (help please
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Heelpp..! BMM not appear, and the phone stayed restarting does nothing but nothing out of the motorola logo screen goes black for a minute and not start, should show BBM but no longer does, and prior to the reboot when installation is complete and I gave keeper system option "Install bmm to main system" not only told me BBM started after reboot and so did not know what to do now ..: S can not access the system 3 is where I have q my other system: (help please
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Sorry to hear that.
So, are you saying that after you installed a ROM in System 1, you force-installed BMM again through System Keeper?
I think you need to FXZ back to stock ICS, then root, then install BMM from the market again.
I think I had the same experience back when I first got this phone and was still experimenting on stuffs.
Anyways, do you know how to FXZ back to stock ICS? There's a guide on how to do that here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937112
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You SHOULD follow every step mentioned on the thread, and also download the correct FXZ for your phone.
Or you could check my post here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53305693#post53305693
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Just ignore the part where I insist you should download the AT&T FXZ for your phone. That part is for my phone only.
Raeshabu said:
Sorry to hear that.
So, are you saying that after you installed a ROM in System 1, you force-installed BMM again through System Keeper?
I think you need to FXZ back to stock ICS, then root, then install BMM from the market again.
I think I had the same experience back when I first got this phone and was still experimenting on stuffs.
Anyways, do you know how to FXZ back to stock ICS? There's a guide on how to do that here:
You SHOULD follow every step mentioned on the thread, and also download the correct FXZ for your phone.
Or you could check my post here:
Just ignore the part where I insist you should download the AT&T FXZ for your phone. That part is for my phone only.
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Ready brother could fix all that I did just now was able to install in system 1 and so far everything is fine, the problem was the gapps and they made the bootlooping, I am LiquidSmooth 3.1 (4.4.3) that I can recommend another rom this stable and fast ... thank you very much for your help really'm super grateful to you ..
saga02 said:
Ready brother could fix all that I did just now was able to install in system 1 and so far everything is fine, the problem was the gapps and they made the bootlooping, I am LiquidSmooth 3.1 (4.4.3) that I can recommend another rom this stable and fast ... thank you very much for your help really'm super grateful to you ..
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Hey, I'm glad that you fixed your phone. :highfive:
Cheers,
Rae
saga02 said:
Can i install roms on System 1, who and how? pls help, i dont want to break my phone, i 've LiquidSmooth but on System 3, i need more space and the only way its installing on system 1..
Who other roms can i install on system 1, and who are requirement? thx for your help :good::cyclops:
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Dude you can flash ROM's on System 1 but please be careful as it will delete all other data on the other systems.
One more thing if your using altreds CM 11 use the BaNkS minimal gapps, It's not a problem to flash on the system 1, the thing is a failed flash can sometimes lead to you needing a FXZ, so just be careful on which ROM your flashing. :good:
I have little bit confusion. Please guide if these steps are correct:
1. Using BMM, format system 1 partition, data, cache.
2. Clean/wipe data, cache, battery, dalvik
3. Install ROM and GAPPs in system 1
4. system keeper > keep/install BMM
Are these steps correct?
Another question is if I want to install only one ROM in system 1 and want to use all available space for this setup then how to setup the partitions with maximum available space? Or I don't need to setup partitions?
Jack Sparrow xda said:
I have little bit confusion. Please guide if these steps are correct:
1. Using BMM, format system 1 partition, data, cache.
2. Clean/wipe data, cache, battery, dalvik
3. Install ROM and GAPPs in system 1
4. system keeper > keep/install BMM
Are these steps correct?
Another question is if I want to install only one ROM in system 1 and want to use all available space for this setup then how to setup the partitions with maximum available space? Or I don't need to setup partitions?
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No need to set partition sizes on system 1, that's solely for multi-booting ROMs on systems 3-6. Everything else is good though.
1BadWolf said:
No need to set partition sizes on system 1, that's solely for multi-booting ROMs on systems 3-6. Everything else is good though.
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Thanks for the info, that was really helpful
But one confusion, I use BMM for flashing ROMs. And in case of BMM, we have to set partitions for system, data and cache. How to do that partitioning step in case if we want to flash ROM in the system 1 ? Won't we have to specify the sizes for all of those partitions?
Another question is, how to fully clean up the system 1 and free up whole ROM space before starting system 1 setup? I mean can I clean everything which came from factory before flashing on the system one to get as big as possible size of internal ROM for the system 1 setup? How much space we can get by doing that? Right now it shows around 2 GB available for user (apps and data) in the 4GB ROM of the Atrix 2, how much would it show in case of custom ROM flashing by freeing up whole space?
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Thanks for the info, that was really helpful
But one confusion, I use BMM for flashing ROMs. And in case of BMM, we have to set partitions for system, data and cache. How to do that partitioning step in case if we want to flash ROM in the system 1 ? Won't we have to specify the sizes for all of those partitions?
Another question is, how to fully clean up the system 1 and free up whole ROM space before starting system 1 setup? I mean can I clean everything which came from factory before flashing on the system one to get as big as possible size of internal ROM for the system 1 setup? How much space we can get by doing that? Right now it shows around 2 GB available for user (apps and data) in the 4GB ROM of the Atrix 2, how much would it show in case of custom ROM flashing by freeing up whole space?
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System 1 gets partitioned by flashing the FXZ so it's not necessary to do it with BMM. The best way to clean up system for flashing is to flash the FXZ first, then root and install BMM, etc. You can also use BMM to format system, data, cache and dalvik cache if you haven't created partitions for other systems. The only reason you will ever need to create partitions with BMM is to flash on systems 3-6.
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System 1 gets partitioned by flashing the FXZ so it's not necessary to do it with BMM. The best way to clean up system for flashing is to flash the FXZ first, then root and install BMM, etc. You can also use BMM to format system, data, cache and dalvik cache if you haven't created partitions for other systems. The only reason you will ever need to create partitions with BMM is to flash on systems 3-6.
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Oh, I thought BMM will do it on sys 1 as well. I used sys 3 & 4 just to try out various ROMs without risking the stock system so that I can know which ROM suites me and later I can cleanup the whole system and put that ROM of my liking in the main system.
I am not familiar with FXZ method and it seems more complicated to me. isn't there any way to flash ROM on sys 1 and deleting the other partitions?
I am noob in this flashing thing and its been just 10-12 days since I started it up. the bmm method looked easy to me and I would prefer it if its possible to use for this purpose.
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Jack Sparrow xda said:
Oh, I thought BMM will do it on sys 1 as well. I used sys 3 & 4 just to try out various ROMs without risking the stock system so that I can know which ROM suites me and later I can cleanup the whole system and put that ROM of my liking in the main system.
I am not familiar with FXZ method and it seems more complicated to me. isn't there any way to flash ROM on sys 1 and deleting the other partitions?
I am noob in this flashing thing and its been just 10-12 days since I started it up. the bmm method looked easy to me and I would prefer it if its possible to use for this purpose.
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Flashing the FXZ is actually pretty simple. The main thing to know is which FXZ is the correct one for your phone. (Also it's a really good idea to find THAT out BEFORE you need it.) BMM is far more complicated and confusing IMHO.
Anyway, it's still possible to do a clean flash via BMM if that's what you're more comfortable with, though, so no worries. Just do a factory reset, which will format data, cache, and dalvik. Since that formats the data partition you will lose everything on any other existing systems. (though it may not always be necessary I normally format the system as well. DO NOT reboot at this point or you'll have no choice but to FXZ.) Then you just flash the zip plus gapps and whatever other mods you want. Personally I like to reboot between flashing each zip. In other words, I flash the ROM then reboot. Then gapps and reboot, etc. No repartitioning is necessary for flashing on system 1 and might actually be detrimental so just skip that.
Thanks a lot @1BadWolf, your post clears all doubts in my mind
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No repartitioning is necessary for flashing on system 1 and might actually be detrimental so just skip that.
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Thanks for letting me know about no need of partitioning sys 1. If I wouldn't have been in this discussion with you, I would have ended up creating partitions on system 1 as well like what I have learnt to do on other systems and there would have been a thread by me on getting stuck in bootloop, you saved me from that.
To be bit on more safer side, let me put what I have understood so far:
1. Boot in BMM.
2. Factory reset on system one. (I have two other custom ROMs on system 3 and 4. will it also clear all the other ROMs installed on other systems also?
3. Format partitions on system one.
4. Clear system, data cache etc
5. Install ROM and GApps on system 1
6. Keep BMM in main system
7. Reboot and done
Is there anything broken or wrong in that chain?
One more query, can I keep continue installing ROMs on other systems like what I am doing right now in case of retaining stock ROM?