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Eureka! 720p H.264 encoding that works!

Just got my G-tablet last night (UPS - learn to keep your tracking up-to-date...it was killing me all day) and quickly moved to TnTLite 4.2.2 (Thanks to the devs, especially Roebeet for the ROM).
Got market working, got a bunch of my apps on, and then tried media...and was met with a horrible sinking feeling of "Oh no, nothing works!". Most of my stuff is encoded from .wtv into 720p H.264 Main, so I had been hopeful.
Did some poking around this morning and discovered that Handbrake's H.264 main profile works, with CABAC, but no weighted p-frames. I was up to using 4 ref frames and 4 B-frames...looks pretty good...
Looks like 8x8 Transform doesn't work as an option though.
This was all done through the Gallery app...not a third party player.

Would you mind sharing your updated experiences with encoding the videos?
What settings would you recommend for converting 1080p blu-ray files to the Gtab?
I use rockplayer and have been converting the files into H264 using MeGUI since hanbrake was giving me audio/video lag issues.
I have been resizing to 1056x592
CQ 16
Main Profile at level 3
Maxing all the settings I can for level 3
File size is not what is important to me, just perceived quality

merril said:
What settings would you recommend for converting 1080p blu-ray files to the Gtab?
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I just use Handbrake's Normal Profile, change Anamorphic to Loose and set the Width to 1024, and change Audio Mixdown to Stereo. When using the default player on TNT Lite, I have no issues.

Where do you get Handbrake? I've looked for it in the market. Can't find it. TIA

bkbrod said:
Where do you get Handbrake? I've looked for it in the market. Can't find it. TIA
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=handbrake

ramerco said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=handbrake
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Sorry, brain wasn't working. Thanks by the way. Liked the Google thing. Doh!!!

[SOLVED] Video performance issues

Am I being unrealistic in my expectations WRT playback of video on the Transformer? (NB After some of the replies below, I've added this comment to emphasise my point - I am NOT talking about high-def video here [e.g. 720p], just normal PAL or NTSC video taken from standard DVDs.)
I've ripped some DVDs using Handbrake on my Mac, using the default High Profile settings. The resulting h.264 files play smoothly and nicely on the Mac.
However, on the Transformer, the playback is juddery.
These are standard-resolution DVD rips, from TV shows and movies.
I wouldn't have been surprised for HD content to be a bit dodgy, but I was surprised not to be able to play SD content smoothly.
Has anyone else got good video playback (i.e. do I have a dodgy tablet) or is the Transformer with its Tegra 2 really not up to playing full-screen SD video?

Don't use high profile. Search before you post - there is many threads about video issues of Tegra2 devices here and in Xoom forum.

Why do people keep doing this, you have a Google tablet, Google this.
The Tegra 2 has a strange limitation, it doesn't play high profile. Before you make the mistake everyone else does, high profile is not a measure of quality, its the measure of compression. The bit rate is the quality.
Put it on high profile go to advanced, turn off 8x8 transform and Weighted P Frames and Subpixel ME to 6, use MP4.
Don't bother with other peoples presets, just use Moboplayer and you will be good with this setup.

Thanks
OK, thanks to you both for sorting me out with this. I did (contrary to appearances) try to find a thread on this topic but failed. Clearly I must brush up on my searching skills.

What about YouTube playback? Even this works terrible on my transformer. It keeps droping how of frames with latest firmware update.
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ivan.volosyuk said:
What about YouTube playback? Even this works terrible on my transformer. It keeps droping how of frames with latest firmware update.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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there will be an update for this, also the browser player works fine for me.

Settings that work
OK. After some testing with the first chapter of the Matrix DVD (because I have it to hand and it's got some nice pans and action to check the juddering against), I have found that the following settings in Handbrake give me acceptable performance on my Transformer with the h.264 codec. This is standard-definition video, please note, NOT high-def.
Note that sorting this out is far from as simple as "Google it" because there are a great many mutually contradictory sets of advice out there!
I took the Normal profile, then went to the Advanced tab and disabled CABAC and set the max B frames to 0.
This was the least dramatic setting that gave smooth playback on my Transformer. So I guess I should repeat my original question - given that my tablet appears to require much lower video settings than generally advised AFAICS in order to get smooth video playback (it's hard to measure this but this is my preception), should I worry? Or is this pretty much what everyone finds with the Transformer?
(The easiest way to get smooth video seems to be just to switch to the MPEG-4 codec and to increase the quality to about 3 to compensate. However, this gives files that are 40-50% larger, so I wanted to avoid that if possible.)

I usually use Handbrake for everything but I was in a hurry so I tried Freemake Video Converter. I converted a few downloaded x264 MMA videos. It has built in settings for Android. I was surprised how well it looked.
I'll still probably go back to Handbrake as soon as I have time to setup and test various suggested settings listed here and some other forums.

FtL1776 said:
Why do people keep doing this, you have a Google tablet, Google this.
The Tegra 2 has a strange limitation, it doesn't play high profile. Before you make the mistake everyone else does, high profile is not a measure of quality, its the measure of compression. The bit rate is the quality.
Put it on high profile go to advanced, turn off 8x8 transform and Weighted P Frames and Subpixel ME to 6, use MP4.
Don't bother with other peoples presets, just use Moboplayer and you will be good with this setup.
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Thanks for the info.
Are you using handbrake? If so, are you using constant quality, bitrate or target size for your encode?

The Tegra 2 supports 720p High Profile Hardware Decoding, but Honeycomb can't utilize it yet. 3.1 or something later should address this.

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The Tegra 2 supports 720p High Profile Hardware Decoding, but Honeycomb can't utilize it yet. 3.1 or something later should address this.
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Link please?

NOT about high-def content
Can I reiterate that my query is NOT about high-def content (e.g. 720p)? I'm talking here about being able to view simple SD content from a DVD I've bought, without juddering.
Can other folks view standard DVD rips on their Transformers using standard Handbrake settings, with no juddering during whole-screen update sections (e.g. pans or action sequences)?

I just used Adobe Media Encoder CS5 (part of the Creative Suite) to encode a file and it played flawlessly on my xformer. I used the Apple TV Preset as a base then modified the profile from main to baseline.
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cd419 said:
I used the Apple TV Preset as a base then modified the profile from main to baseline.
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Could you share which modifications you made? As I don't have access to CS5, I'd need to reproduce the settings on my software.
Thanks!

there's a handbrake profile for video encoding for the transformer. search for it.

seshmaru:
Unless you know something is there then you don't know to search for it. Now I know, I have searched and found that what I posted above is basically the situation - no B frames, no CABAC.
That being said, all the discussion I have seen has been based on 720p content rather than standard def so it's not clear to a newcomer to video issues that tthe same restrictions necessarily apply.
Anyhow, that seems to be the answer so thanks to all for the help.

Force 720p recording on leaked Gingerbread ROM

Hi all,
When using the leaked Gingerbread ROM, the camera and video app revert to the default Android one and we lose the LG camera / video app.
I don't really mind this except for the fact that having the video on 'High' uses the psuedo 1080 and is not nearly as smooth as the 720p recording on the Froyo ROM.. I saw the same issue with "1080p" on the Froyo ROM.
What I'd like to do is force it so that "High" is 720p.
Is there a hack that will let me set this permanently, or an app that will let me select this on the fly?
I'd much rather have smooth video at 720p than psuedo 1080p that's a little jittery.
Thanks so much for any information.

I found my own solution.
Download LgCameraPro from the market.
It's a camera and video camera replacement that has TONS of features and even allows you to set your own custom recording resolution, bitrate, framerate, etc..
GREAT app so far (although I've only been playing with it about 20 minutes).

I to have that app you speak of and I like the video camera but I dont like any of the Camera apps in the market they all shoot crappy pics the closest one to even the stock android app is called camera advance so right now I use the stock app for camera and LGcamerapro for the video mostly sometimes I just use the stock for video but I heard that it only shoots in 720p and not 1080p. I updated with the LG update as soon as it came out I mean hours after the release Someone said that the LG update lost 1080p video capabilities but the OTA got them back. So Again I am confused does my stock app shoot 1080p or 720p.

[Q] ICS 3Dvideo mods

Using a pc program "mediainfo" I noticed the 3D video encoding has changed from the codec used in gingerbread. The codec is now listed as iso which is common enough, but the codec also uses "frame tripling". The frame rate is 30fps so are we getting a 30fps with 3 frames making 1, effectively 90fps or 10fps with 3 frames duplicated to "make" 30fps.
The new 3D files cause windows explorer to continually try to analyse the mp4 files and will not automatically unmount the sd card as it is continually trying to recognize the file. The same problem also when the 3D videos are transferred to PC and the folder is viewed in explorer, cannot even re-name them with a different extension to stop the lock-ups.

Sorry to say, but 90 fps is not even true. The S3D hardware is limited to only TWO images, so it's basically split-image, either 30fps or 60fps, both left and right images. If you try 90fps, you will have image ghosting which the transparent ceramic plate is timed wrongly against video frames or worse - you will see flashing or wavy patterns which will cause you the headache. And, LCD is normally locked at 60 hertzs, as is the case with non-3D LCDs.
EDIT: The file is basically a MP4 file - with some capable media players, probably like VLC player, it will display two "squeezed" images as seen by two cameras on the 3D phone.
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I didn't have a problem moving or viewing the 3D files created in gingerbread. It seems the new codec used by ICS is causing windows problems as the codec is not recognized, windows just keeps trying to update the thumnails on the sd card when connected via usb or when removed and in a sd card reader.
Just wondered if anyone has found a way round this problem.
The "frame tripling" that is reported in the pc program {mediainfo} is a part of the codec description and cannot seem to find any mention of it in this forum.

Interesting... I have a modified ICS version of 3D camera, modified for CM10 - will try this. BTW, I don't like using thumbnail feature on Windows - nothing but a PITA.
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Hmmm. I have Nvidia 3d vision and drivers on my pc and I can watch video directly over hdmi and copy them, etc. Maybe you need the Nvidia drivers???

Or updated Catalyst for AMD Radeon HD 4k or later. I have Radeon 4670, BTW. It's still a great general-purpose video card.
However, I don't have a 3D monitor. Definitely outside of my budget.
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The "lockup" of file monitoring in widows7 for this new codec is not my main concern,annoying as it may be. I am worried about the mediainfo report of the frame mode is "frame tripling". my own research has been that 3D capture on a 3D camera by panasonic or philips or someone ACTUALLY records at 10fps and each frame is then repeated 3 times to give a 30fps video file This would give a poor motion quality video. I need to confirm that ALL o3D ICS updates have the same frame tripling video recording, as I have some "issues" with my upgrade in other software since upgrading to ICS .If the video recorded by the ICS upgrade is in fact 10fps and multiplied x3 then it is a novelty and not really persuing 3D by upgrading PC or TV to view real 3D.
Thanks for your reply's so far.

Still interesting, however. 10 fps seems slow but here, the first ever stereoscopic 3D camcorders have slower in-order processors, BTW - not as advanced as what's in our phones. So, in reality 90 fps is actually viewable as 30 fps when the 3D LCD timing is factored here.
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Sorry but don't understand the explanation or translation into english,

keith210350 said:
The "lockup" of file monitoring in widows7 for this new codec is not my main concern,annoying as it may be. I am worried about the mediainfo report of the frame mode is "frame tripling". my own research has been that 3D capture on a 3D camera by panasonic or philips or someone ACTUALLY records at 10fps and each frame is then repeated 3 times to give a 30fps video file This would give a poor motion quality video. I need to confirm that ALL o3D ICS updates have the same frame tripling video recording, as I have some "issues" with my upgrade in other software since upgrading to ICS .If the video recorded by the ICS upgrade is in fact 10fps and multiplied x3 then it is a novelty and not really persuing 3D by upgrading PC or TV to view real 3D.
Thanks for your reply's so far.
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Indeed "TriDef Media Player" installed with my LG3D monitor can't play 3D movies from ICS but 2D is able to play.
"Stereo Movie Player" http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/index.html can't play 3D from ICS too.
Only "Stereoscopic Player" http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx can play that video.

Nvidia 3D Vision drivers work for me, but if you have an AMD GPU it may be different.

OK, works very well for me too.
After I uninstalled ffdshow

[Q] LgCamera App bad quality video on Samsung S4

Hey everyone, I have a stock Samsung S4 that I like recording concert videos on.
I had a real big issue with the audio. I might have that fixed with BootlegMic. I have also installed LgCamera in hopes of finding a fixed focus for my video. I found that this app did let me use an external mic that my stock app did not, but I cannot seem to get a decent quality video from it at all
I have tried changing video resolution, video encoder, video bitrates, and file formats. Every conceivable combination that's possible, (I realize any video res past 1920 X 1080 is not supported), but cannot get any video quality even close to the stock video app.
Is there anyone with experience with this problem that can help me get it sorted out?
Thx. Jerry.

This may be late
This may be a late reply, but just in case any one else happens upon this thread, it might be worth looking at Open Camera app. Lots of tweakable settings, fixed focus, exposure lock, external mic, etc.
BTW, I just put together a bootlegMIC and it is fantastic.