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I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
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vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
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I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
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You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
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vinnyjr said:
You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
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Sorry, but I can't answer that one yet, I haven't even ordered my G2x yet. I just read about this issue from another thread on this forum because apparently it was the same setup on the Vibrant. Perhaps some Vibrant owners can chime in with a suggestion? Not sure if it's possible to put apps to SD or if they just automatically go to the internal storage. However, if I were you, I'd rather have the apps on internal storage and save the SD for videos, pictures, music, etc. The internal storage will be more reliable (not fail later) and faster than the SD. 5GB should be more than enough space for app storage.
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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tsquire99 said:
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
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Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
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I just never had that set up before with any of my android phones. I just didn't know how to put any files to the ext sd card, I foolled around with it and basicly I just went into my file manager and long pressed the app of file, copy, went into the extsd card and paste.
Thanks for the help.
I have had the MyTouch 4G and the Nexus One, neither had that set up.
PS this phone flies.
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
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hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
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It doesn't come with any sd card. Supply your own.
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
crazythunder said:
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
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Yes, this is true. However, from 2.2 up, Android allows you to move apps to the "SD card" (or in this case the 5GB extended internal storage) as long as the developer enabled this feature. This way large games and other such apps don't use up all the storage.
bguzmanz2 said:
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
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Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
aironeous said:
Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
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Having a Nexus One I put most of my Apps on ext 3. Worked great and always had over 140 mb of free memory space which kept my phone very fast.
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vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I think the idea is your apps/data go into internal 5GB (which is mounted as SDCARD) and then you use your SDCARD for media (mounted as /SDCARD/_ExternalSD)
yup.. that is right mobilehavoc.
The phone has no "sdcard" when you get it new, but it's got basically 5.35GB internal SD already built in.. So you have plenty of storage, plus you have 1.3GB for apps, and can move them to that 5GB if needed.
Although I just put in my 16GB and tried to titanium restore and it doesn't find anything cuz it's looking in /sdcard and my file is on my sd card, and the g2x has that as /external_sd
that is irritating, will I need to move all the important stuff over, and downloads and pictures n such will all from now on go to the internal 5GB. so move everything over and use actual SD for rest
Hey there, so I'm having a different sd card problem, but I can't find any threads directly related to it so I'm just going to post it here because it seems just as good a place as any.
So yesterday morning, about 3am or so, cause I'm weird like that, I finished the movie I was watching, so I went to go move it off my phone and put another one on, so I hooked up my USB and connected to Ubuntu, the sdcard popped up and I deleted the file, then deleted the trash file but when I delete the trash file I get an error message saying Error removing file: Directory not empty, and no matter what way I try to edit my sd, it won't change, it won't save any new data or delete the old, I've tried reformating with the phone, reformating with ubuntu, I've tried file managers, using a micro to sd conversion chip and putting it in my card reader, but no matter what I try my sd won't change, somebody please help me out, I just got the 16gb card like a month ago, but I bought it in Austria so I can't really return it, because I'm living in Italy.
Thanks in advanced.
Never mind my last post, I did a wipe of my sd card from the phone, pluged it back into ubuntu, and then magically, I could erase all the files.
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
Dragon509 said:
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
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See it's really a hard problem to solve. I'm coming from an Incredible which had 8GB of internal storage but it was mounted as /emmc. This meant no app except the custom camera and music apps and maybe one or two apps specially designed by devs could use the internal storage.
The way the G2X does it, all apps can see the internal storage and use it. All media apps can see the external SD as well. But you are right, the dev would need to update the app. Although I don't see why it is so difficult - they could give the user the option to a path so you could put in /sdcard/_ExternalSD/
And that would work.
The internal memory in the G2x is treated as an SD card in many apps (because it's mounted on stock at /mnt/sdcard). This can pose a problem with applications that store lots of data. Users have large external micro SD cards for this purpose, but many applications just blindly choose to install to /mnt/sdcard. The user has no option of saving to the external card.
Has anyone figured out a way to 'fool' applications into thinking the "External SD" card is actually at /mnt/sdcard?
As an example, if each file system supported symlinks, the amazon mp3 player app could be fooled by:
ln -s /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD/amazonmp3 /mnt/sdcard/amazonmp3
Of course, this won't work when working with SD cards, as they use FAT partitioning which does not support symlinks.
Anyone mess with this and have a 'suggested' way to 'fool' apps into using the external SD card for more storage?
Edit: I have tried swapping mount locations of the two cards in /etc/vold.fstab. This worked, kinda. USB storage mode just hangs when enabled and the computer sees a drive it can't read (and asks you to format it).
Ive been trying to figure out a solution for this since I got my G2x, cause I just have too many gameloft games LOL
Came up w/ the same syslink idea but FAT doesnt support such a simple idea. We can link between an EXT and FAT, but not FAT to FAT, it seems.
This probably requires edits to the kernel init files for a true solution
The vold method would work if there were edits to the kernel, so you had half the solution. Ran into the same mounting bug. Wonder if one if those dual mount apps would work. hmmm
Cm7 fixes this.
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r4d14n7 said:
Cm7 fixes this.
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I noticed this when I ran CM7 for a while. If I remember correctly, it mounts the internal to /mnt/emmc and external to /mnt/sdcard.
Unfortunately, there are a few issues that CM7 has that prevent me from keeping it as my daily driver OS (bluetooth issues, worse camera app, slow to no GPS locking, G2/3/4 data does not enable after wifi disconnect, and a few more). As it matures it could become the solution for me.
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zimphishmonger said:
Ive been trying to figure out a solution for this since I got my G2x, cause I just have too many gameloft games LOL
Came up w/ the same syslink idea but FAT doesnt support such a simple idea. We can link between an EXT and FAT, but not FAT to FAT, it seems.
This probably requires edits to the kernel init files for a true solution
The vold method would work if there were edits to the kernel, so you had half the solution. Ran into the same mounting bug. Wonder if one if those dual mount apps would work. hmmm
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Thanks for the info. At least I now know there is not a simple solution that was escaping me
Why not, then, just reformat the microSD card to a file system that supports symlinks? Backup your data off it first, of course lol.
Can you do that? Will it still be treated as an internal SD card then (for example, able to be accessed via USB on my computer)?
I did some reading about partitioning both the external and internal SD cards to ext3/4, but people didn't seem to have a "flawless" experience. This wasn't specific to the G2x however.
AustinPowersISU said:
I noticed this when I ran CM7 for a while. If I remember correctly, it mounts the internal to /mnt/emmc and external to /mnt/sdcard.
Unfortunately, there are a few issues that CM7 has that prevent me from keeping it as my daily driver OS (bluetooth issues, worse camera app, slow to no GPS locking, G2/3/4 data does not enable after wifi disconnect, and a few more). As it matures it could become the solution for me.
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I'll be more specific. There was a fix for CM7 users to reverse the roles of internal and external storage somewhere in the monster CM7 threads. You could try this fix in reverse to the ROM of your choice. Just search the CM7 thread for information on how to swap internal for external. May or may not work.
r4d14n7 said:
I'll be more specific. There was a fix for CM7 users to reverse the roles of internal and external storage somewhere in the monster CM7 threads. You could try this fix in reverse to the ROM of your choice. Just search the CM7 thread for information on how to swap internal for external. May or may not work.
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Thanks,
I decided that the lack of being able to do this on stock was enough to go to CM7 again. The issues I described before are less annoying (to me) than not being able to save stuff to my external SD. Plus CM7 will always be getting updated as well.
Thanks for the help everyone.
Thread moved to proper forum.
phburks said:
Why not, then, just reformat the microSD card to a file system that supports symlinks? Backup your data off it first, of course lol.
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Cause I still mount to a Win7 machine sometimes
zimphishmonger said:
Cause I still mount to a Win7 machine sometimes
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I used to use this with XP.
http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
Haven't tried it with Windows 7. Maybe I'll do that tonight lol. There are some other standalone utilities for windows 7 that let you access ext2/3 file systems but I like this one because it lets windows access them as native file systems so you can access them through windows explorer, etc.
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AustinPowersISU said:
Can you do that? Will it still be treated as an internal SD card then (for example, able to be accessed via USB on my computer)?
I did some reading about partitioning both the external and internal SD cards to ext3/4, but people didn't seem to have a "flawless" experience. This wasn't specific to the G2x however.
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I'll do some experimenting around. Not really sure.
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So apparently Samsung makes the skyrocket think that the usb storage is the sd card. Because of this when i tap to move an app to the sd card it moves it from system storage too usb storage. I am pretty much out of storage internally. Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone know how i can solve the problem.
ian1 said:
So apparently Samsung makes the skyrocket think that the usb storage is the sd card. Because of this when i tap to move an app to the sd card it moves it from system storage too usb storage. I am pretty much out of storage internally. Has anyone else had this problem or does anyone know how i can solve the problem.
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I do not think that Samsung is unique. An external SD card appears as a directory in the external storage. It is rather easy to use this directory to store music, photos and videos. I have many programs and I am nowhere near tapped out in terms of storage. However, I believe that there are a number of solutions that would allow one to move applications to the external-external SD card.
Ya i was wondering if anyone had heard of a way to do this. I havent found anything yet.
If you are rooted you can probably edit the fstab file to switch the mount points of the internal and external memory. This has been done on other devices and a search should point you to directions to accomplish this.
There are negatives and positives to this approach, so read and understand what yoou are doing and the effects it will have before doing it.
I have over 80 apps installed, including two nav programs with offline maps for the US and have 1.5 GB in the user space for ap installs, 9.4 GB in the internal storage, and 11 GB free on a 32 GB external SD card (music files take up most of the used space).
Thank you!
This is my first tablet so please forgive these dumb questions. I've been spoiled for years with CM# on my phones so I'm having a hard time adapting.
Is there a way to force apps to use the MicroSD card when saving? Example: In Dolphin HD, you can set your download directory. It defaults to "/mnt/sdcard" which is internal memory. I want to change it to "/Removable/MicroSD" but it keeps telling me that path is not available and to pick another. I googled a bit but all they tell me to do is save to internal then copy to external. I know I'm going to get tired of that really soon...
Some apps allow me to save to the external card. I set K-9 to download attachments to the card and it took the path but when I actually save an attachment, it says it's successful but I can't find the attachment in either internal and external memory. And yes, I did confirm I typed in the right path.
Any suggestions?
TIA
I don't know if this is the issue, but ASUS has decided to mount the external memory cards under a directory in the root directory ("/Removable/microSD" and "/Removable/SD"). Have you rooted your TF700? Most other systems I've used (the SGS2 primarily,and the LG O2x) had the external cards mounted under /mnt/sdcard/(_)External_SD, or under "mnt/emmc" as is the case under CM#. It might drop down to not having write access to these directories (although that'd be strange and never encountered efore on my devices, at least)...
EDIT: under Opera, for example, I can save an embedded image on XDA on the external microSD and I can find it with Total Commander (and open it with QuickPic).Still, I'm rooted.
MartyHulskemper said:
I don't know if this is the issue, but ASUS has decided to mount the external memory cards under a directory in the root directory ("/Removable/microSD" and "/Removable/SD"). Have you rooted your TF700? Most other systems I've used (the SGS2 primarily,and the LG O2x) had the external cards mounted under /mnt/sdcard/(_)External_SD, or under "mnt/emmc" as is the case under CM#. It might drop down to not having write access to these directories (although that'd be strange and never encountered efore on my devices, at least)...
EDIT: under Opera, for example, I can save an embedded image on XDA on the external microSD and I can find it with Total Commander (and open it with QuickPic).Still, I'm rooted.
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Thank you for the reply. I haven't rooted yet but plan to do so this weekend. I'll see if that makes any difference.
as for reading from the card, yes, I can confirm that I can do the same - anything I put on the external card, my apps can read from it. I just can't seem to make apps write to that card, only internal.
Thanks!
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Thank you for the reply. I haven't rooted yet but plan to do so this weekend. I'll see if that makes any difference.
as for reading from the card, yes, I can confirm that I can do the same - anything I put on the external card, my apps can read from it. I just can't seem to make apps write to that card, only internal.
Thanks!
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You're welcome. Indeed, I meant that I can save an online image using my browser of choice onto the external memory. That's what seems to be the bottleneck in your case.
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You're welcome. Indeed, I meant that I can save an online image using my browser of choice onto the external memory. That's what seems to be the bottleneck in your case.
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Thanks for the explanation. Yes, I can confirm Opera works as advertised. Seems to be the only browser that can.
Stock and FF do not allow custom download directories
Dolphin HD didn't accept paths to external memory (and won't allow downloads larger than 2GB )
Chrome didn't allow downloads at all :crying:
Thanks again!
Seems like the only downfall of this phone is the lack of an external SD card slot. Is any one oiy there working on an app similar to link to SD but utilizing a micro USB.card reader like the Meenova? What about a script that would swap the internal memory with the externally mounted micro SD reader? Anybody?
How about connecting our brain by spinal cord lol.... Yes there are some otg device which can help you as a external storage and no need of swap internal memory since moto G is best working at this moment
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All solutions are for media only none of them provide app apk or app data support. I have been scouring the internet for days. There is no way as of yet to implement link2sd, app2sd, data2sd support for within app usage. But thanks for your sarcastic remark!
joeatheist said:
All solutions are for media only none of them provide app apk or app data support. I have been scouring the internet for days. There is no way as of yet to implement link2sd, app2sd, data2sd support for within app usage. But thanks for your sarcastic remark!
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There are apps to link apps to external sd (both apk and data) via otg. You can do it manually via busybox+mount -bind or all automatic via some apps that are in this forum (I swear they are in moto-g/general, so give it a try). If I see the link again I will come back and link it to you, but I remember at least two apps available in the play store to do it.
you can try folder mount or directory bind for moving big data games to usb otg
I wouldn't see a problem with mounting your external sd card wherever you want in the filesystem.
However I would suggest to just mount the external sd card to /sdcard
Filling the 8gb with apps seems pretty impossible to me. Data stored by the app is stored in /sdcard, so that's where you actually would need more space.
joeatheist said:
Seems like the only downfall of this phone is the lack of an external SD card slot. Is any one oiy there working on an app similar to link to SD but utilizing a micro USB.card reader like the Meenova? What about a script that would swap the internal memory with the externally mounted micro SD reader? Anybody?
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Just out of curiosity, which apps do you plan to install that require more than 12.5 gb?? I do agree though that the space restriction makes it difficult to keep multiple cwm backups..
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Just out of curiosity, which apps do you plan to install that require more than 12.5 gb?? I do agree though that the space restriction makes it difficult to keep multiple cwm backups..
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Multiple CWM backups are always annoying, no matter if you have sd card or not.
This thread on the other hand makes no sense, there are apps that do the job out there, but if you can't mange your space, then probably you ain't for Nexus-like device.
liveroy said:
Multiple CWM backups are always annoying, no matter if you have sd card or not.
This thread on the other hand makes no sense, there are apps that do the job out there, but if you can't mange your space, then probably you ain't for Nexus-like device.
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Well i like to keep a couple of backups while moving from rom to rom.. but not an option on this device!
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I was wondering if it's possible do something like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046178