I saw that honeycomb is being ported to the N1, any ideas on when/if it will be ported to the NS?
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1) Wrong section
2) all the Honeycomb port are coming from a crappy SDK emulator
3) all the Honeycomb port are just showcase and are not usuable for a daily use
4) You can ask this question once Honeycomb will be official and source downloadable from Google.
I thought the source was available for honeycomb.
Might be mistaken.
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4) You can ask this question once Honeycomb will be official and source downloadable from Google.
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we allready have honeycomb . . . its been on some tabs for a while we just need a system dump from someone with it.
hutzdani said:
we allready have honeycomb . . . its been on some tabs for a while we just need a system dump from someone with it.
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The Moto Xoom will only be available this week.
All the previous tablet and demo you have seen were beta Honeycomb.
So, no, final honeycomb is not yet available. (if I am wrong, please correct me, as I live in Europe I have not all the US news.)
profete162 said:
The Moto Xoom will only be available this week.
All the previous tablet and demo you have seen were beta Honeycomb.
So, no, final honeycomb is not yet available. (if I am wrong, please correct me, as I live in Europe I have not all the US news.)
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not beta honeycomb.. they're honeycomb ported from the SDK.
you got it right before about it not being a daily driver. whats the point into putting so much effort into a SDK port when the actual source will come out later?
ehh you already have an NS that receives priority updates why would you want a sketchy port of an OS when honeycomb isnt even meant to run on a phone?
just wait till 2.4 or w.e is next because it should be including the honeycomb features that we all want
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ehh you already have an NS that receives priority updates why would you want a sketchy port of an OS when honeycomb isnt even meant to run on a phone?
just wait till 2.4 or w.e is next because it should be including the honeycomb features that we all want
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Uh what? Where did you get any of that information? 2.4 is still gingerbread, Google has said that. The "I" iteration (currently colloquially called Ice Cream) is the one that will merge a lot of the functionality of honeycomb and previous iterations. Also (I'm looking for the link now) Adobe made some comments that make it pretty clear that honeycomb will be coming to phones and there has never been an official statement ever, ever, ever calling Honeycomb a "tablet only" OS. What El Goog has said is that previous versions of Android were not designed for tablets however Honeycomb would allow optimization for larger resolutions.
Regardless of any of that, what is the point of having a powerful phone that can be easily hacked if you're not going to experiment with it. I have no intention of waiting and I'll flash the first damn build of hacked honeycomb regardless of the risks. I bought this this phone because I wanted to try things and do interesting things with my phone.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...her-phones-heres-our-frequently-updated-list/
Thread title says it all.
They have the AOSP source code so yes many phones have gingerbread right now but not an official release or anything like that
cyanogenmod 7 nightlies start next week.
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Allenfx,
I went to several of the sites and as I understand it what has been done is release the stock Android 3.0 Honeycomb stuff to the developers. But now they will have to tailor it to the hardware of the individual devices. I did see tegra2 stuff where I looked.
So I think you might say it is coming. But it will depend on how long it takes to get all the drivers and settings to work.
It will not be a quick process like the updates for VEGAn, TNT, etc. Much more work and detail to be done.
If this doesn't answer the question, someone straighten me out!
Rev
Nice to know its being worked on
Not sure it makes any sense to spend too much time working on GTablet ports to Gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3) when I'd expect that Honeycomb (Android 3.0) devices will be out shortly and the Honeycomb source will drop for AOSP use within a couple of weeks of the first device -- which looks like it may be the Motorola Xoom...
As mentioned, Cyanogenmod 7 will be Gingerbread and will likely be the first ported to the GTablet (assuming that there isn't too much driver tweaking involved between Froyo and GB)
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I think we will see gingerbread in early summer officially released by viewsonic, although modders here will most likely have a great Rom based on 2.3 before then. My bet(just my opinion) we wont see Honeycomb on the G tab until sometime in the fall.
Would love to be wrong and see 3.0 sooner.....
WantADroid said:
I think we will see gingerbread in early summer officially released by viewsonic, although modders here will most likely have a great Rom based on 2.3 before then. My bet(just my opinion) we wont see Honeycomb on the G tab until sometime in the fall.
Would love to be wrong and see 3.0 sooner.....
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What is your source for Gingerbread being available in summer from Viewsonic?
Source Please?
Notice how he said "I think" and "my opinon". The source is himself.
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Notice how he said "I think" and "my opinon". The source is himself.
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That was a little joke for my amusement.
But thank you, I think you made my point for me. I had made a comment in another post and gave my opinion and wantadroid asked me to site my source of information (inside info). I posted that I have read... and I got this reply:
"Please give us your inside info on the hardware problems.... I haven't found A thing to make me believe the G tab won't EVENTUALLY get Honeycomb."
I'm just curious but since ICS is coming, what does that mean for us? All I've heard is another UI overhaul for phones to give them more honeycomb, but what do we get? If Hardware Acceleration is in then I would be happy, but there doesn't seem to be anything in it for us tablet users.
Unless I'm missing something.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393797,00.asp#fbid=eHhpmAndRdICant really say kinda early..heres something I found but still unsure
I hope it means an update and AOSP!!
Not sure what the link was for...... Didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. Sorry. But I'm just not sure if I would be excited about ics on my Xoom.
Imma say that it will be on the original Xoom's without a doubt. I read in an article that ICS will be able to run on older devices, thus it's almost a guarantee the Xoom will see it officially. Annnnd for some reason it does not... have no fear, as the devs will be here to solve that problem! The OG Droid was left out of the update loop awhile back because newer models replaced it, but we still have the most current updates on it thanks to the brilliant devs. Just gotta have some faith in your XDA community, and they will figure something out.
But again, I think the OP wants to know (...like I also do) what's the big improvement gonna be?
As I stated on another recent post, the big deal for me as I see it is that (presumably) the SC for HC will be released and then the ROM goodness will follow. But if it's anything like what happened with Froyo, etc, the Honeycomb custom ROMs will kick the stock Icecream Sandwichs' ass.
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But again, I think the OP wants to know (...like I also do) what's the big improvement gonna be?
As I stated on another recent post, the big deal for me as I see it is that (presumably) the SC for HC will be released and then the ROM goodness will follow. But if it's anything like what happened with Froyo, etc, the Honeycomb custom ROMs will kick the stock Icecream Sandwichs' ass.
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Thanks for being the only reply actually related to my post, but Google had stated a long time ago that the SC for hc will never be released as the SC for ics will be released instead. But since phones will get more hc goodness, what do we get?(which is the main question in the topic)
I think at this point, it's a wait-and-see kind of thing.
But I think finally having the source code is the biggest news here. I think it will be the dawning of a golden age for the XOOM, so to speak.
Also, one advantage to the phone side getting lumped in to the same OS is that we will see a boost in apps that are tablet optimized since the devs will be able to work all of it into one .apk instead of focusing on two separate projects.
These are the two things I'm personally looking forward to the most as far as the tablet side goes.
Of course, it would be nice to be surprised, too.
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Thanks for being the only reply actually related to my post, but Google had stated a long time ago that the SC for hc will never be released as the SC for ics will be released instead. But since phones will get more hc goodness, what do we get?(which is the main question in the topic)
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Well, I think, since ICS will be open source, we will get additional development for the Xoom, beyond the wonderful feature additions and enhancements we have gotten with the limited HC.
Don't you think so?
From my understanding, Ice Cream Sandwich is an over haul for phones to bring out an honeycomb interface while allowing for tablet support as well and it will be more controlled by the king them self, Google.
What this means? All android devices will now be updated at the same time as it'll be more tightly integrated which means developers will need to start just making widgets for there own devices instead of a completely different interfaces like they do today. In a way, it'll be exactly what Honeycomb tablets are today (if you look at all the honeycomb tablets that's out, the interface is the same, only differences is that others will have widgets and/or wallpapers designed just for there tablets (i.e., samsung has the touchwiz) but can be upgraded all the same).
This is supposed to be more more uniform support and faster updates.
Will this go into effect right away? Probably not since the manufacturers will still need to make to update go through but we should also expect to see faster updates as well (there's still a lot of users out there still waiting on Gingerbread releases for there devices so with this making it more uniformed should allow for faster releases).
This is only from what I've heard, though.
This is from a PC World article this morning:
Although Google has kept its cards close to its vest about ICS, a number of things have been reported about it.
Widgets will be richer and resizable, as they are in the tablet version of Android.
More multitasking will be added to the system and the OS will be open source.
The system will be tailored to take advantage of devices that use the Texas Instrument's OMAP chip.
As with any Android upgrade, what Android devices will be eligible for the new system will remain with the manufacturers, but two good bets for the upgraded OS are the Samsung Nexus S and the Motorola Xoom.
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I think it is important to understand one thing about ICS. It is intended to reunify the OS on all device types (like iOS). What this means for tablet (and conversely smartphone) users is that app development will improve and we will get better apps. These apps will make it easier to share functions between your tablet and your smartphone.
We would have found out more next Tuesday, but the announcements for ICS have been postponed. The postponement was for a good reason though. We still don't know what the reschedule date will be, other than sometime this month.
This better come to previous devices, I am watching the live stream right now and the software is everything that I want it to be, lol. I am still awaiting whether what they will do with it being ported to older phones, but with Cynagen and other extreme devs working on ICS there is hope lol. EDIT: sorry did not see the other threads, but this could be like a way to remove all that clutter an arguement on the other threads.
Doubtful, if we do get it officially it won't be for a looong azz time.
My guess: International GS2 will get it, which means AT&T GS2 will get it due to the hardware similarities, Infuse won't due to being a weirdo device not in common with anything else.
Well hopefully gtg can work his magic with Mikey and make it happen maybe.
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Guys, they haven't even said whether ICS is open source yet. Patience, patience, and keep those fingers crossed!
Ok so after watching the live stream of the event, I believe I also read that ICS is open source so that any manufacture can pick it up and develop it for any device. Im praying that samsung does something for all their devices. since the relationship with googster is becoming bigger and bigger.
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Ok so after watching the live stream of the event, I believe I also read that ICS is open source so that any manufacture can pick it up and develop it for any device. Im praying that samsung does something for all their devices. since the relationship with googster is becoming bigger and bigger.
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I too read that ICS should be open sourced - eventually. Hell, they didn't even tell us which carriers or what price. We can guess all day but until someone says something it's still a lot of speculation on some very important points.
Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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"Alongside a new flagship handset (check out our hands-on with the Galaxy Nexus!), Google is announcing an all-new version of its Android OS. Codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, Android 4.0 is a continuation and refinement of ideas that first emerged in Honeycomb, now all grown up and ready for life in a phone. Perhaps even more importantly, Android 4.0 is an open source release, which means any hardware manufacturer that wants a crack at it can download the source and sell a device with 4.0 on top — Honeycomb never attained that status." -----Paul Miller, The Verge
I think thats pretty reputable.
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Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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"Alongside a new flagship handset (check out our hands-on with the Galaxy Nexus!), Google is announcing an all-new version of its Android OS. Codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, Android 4.0 is a continuation and refinement of ideas that first emerged in Honeycomb, now all grown up and ready for life in a phone. Perhaps even more importantly, Android 4.0 is an open source release, which means any hardware manufacturer that wants a crack at it can download the source and sell a device with 4.0 on top — Honeycomb never attained that status." -----Paul Miller, The Verge
I think thats pretty reputable.
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Good point, and who said official? They are going to make cynagen mod 9, which should practicly just be an upgrade from cm7, which means we can have this very soon (possibly). And this should be open sourced, If they do not they are screwing themselves over lol. If Samsung wants to be the best in Android like they said in the speech thing, then make more updates lol.
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Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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"Alongside a new flagship handset (check out our hands-on with the Galaxy Nexus!), Google is announcing an all-new version of its Android OS. Codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, Android 4.0 is a continuation and refinement of ideas that first emerged in Honeycomb, now all grown up and ready for life in a phone. Perhaps even more importantly, Android 4.0 is an open source release, which means any hardware manufacturer that wants a crack at it can download the source and sell a device with 4.0 on top — Honeycomb never attained that status." -----Paul Miller, The Verge
I think thats pretty reputable.
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Hey now, I'm on your side guys! I'm just saying they didn't say jack at the event.
beatblaster said:
Hey now, I'm on your side guys! I'm just saying they didn't say jack at the event.
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They did not, heck maybe if they release this for any of the Galaxy S line not S2 because of extreme differences the Hellraiser may be used. Probably not, im dreaming again haha.
tazbo28 said:
Well the sdk and development platform are available now so isnt the source in there somewhere? im a noob.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-40-platform-and-updated-sdk.html
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FWIW and just to answer your question (if you even care), an SDK and an API do not include source code. They are a set of tools and libraries to help you develop your own software by exposing key features of the software the SDK or API is written against.
Here's the android open source site: http://source.android.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
Looks like the Nexus S is getting it, so specs are clearly not a problem. Let's hope Samsung doesn't totally forget about the Infuse.
Keep in mind guys it isn't just about if Samsung will give us ICS but also if ATT would allow it and if they would let it through in any amount of decent time. Hell we still don't have an official gingerbread release.
If my memory isn't failing me. Google had stated that all new devices would get at least two software upgrades. 1) gingerbread 2)ICS. This was back when tthe atrix was still relevant. Someone should Google this. LOL.
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i could be wrong about this, but if we happen to get a dump of the rom soon, wouldnt there be some feature of the rom that indicates which resolution to display at? I mean considering this is supposed to be like a one size fits all? or is that purely what the sdk and api tools do?
I just read on Engadget that apparently, all Gingerbread devices should be able to get ICS.
Am I allowed to post links?
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If my memory isn't failing me. Google had stated that all new devices would get at least two software upgrades. 1) gingerbread 2)ICS. This was back when tthe atrix was still relevant. Someone should Google this. LOL.
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I believe we were also told we would get Gingerbread in August. Never believe anything when it comes to getting software upgrades.
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i could be wrong about this, but if we happen to get a dump of the rom soon, wouldnt there be some feature of the rom that indicates which resolution to display at? I mean considering this is supposed to be like a one size fits all? or is that purely what the sdk and api tools do?
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I'm looking at the PNGs in the SDK right now and our device (HDPI) has a full set of graphics so if anyone ever ports this for us the visual work is there. I'm a themer, not a ROM developer, but seeing those PNGs in the SDK tells me Gingerbread devices (whether they are all devices or not is left to be seen) could be a potential target for ICS.
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If my memory isn't failing me. Google had stated that all new devices would get at least two software upgrades. 1) gingerbread 2)ICS. This was back when tthe atrix was still relevant. Someone should Google this. LOL.
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Ics is different though, it is trying to unify everything. Most good devices are on 2.3 now, (ahem sammy your letting us down here lol), but we will be getting it. This leads into beatblasters hypothesis thing (sorry thinking sience), where probably Gingerbred phones are going to be compatible with it. And if att doesnt want to lose customers, then then better upgrade their older phones or else tmobile or verizon here i come.
Hellot there i just received a new tablet for christmas abd i wanted to learn some new things.
First oglf all i have to admit it that i am new to this android scene. I am a fan of apple but wheb it comes to tablets i guess abdroid has an advantage. whatever this is not the purpose of my message.
What i wabted to know is this: I received an Le Pan tc 970 but i saw they got the new Le Pan 2ut with the honeycomb support . My question is: is it worth rerurning this current tablet to buy the new one just because it has a new firmware on it? Or the hobeycomb isnt that much of a deal abd I should keep this one? Any advantages to buy the ther one in comparasion to this ine except it is new? Does it have much more feature than 2.2?
If not I know abdroid is the world of customizations... but i dont seem to get it. Do i need to root my system in order to makee tose customizatiobs available? I didnt ser that much themes for this tablet... also it doesbt even have its own section... Is it because the tablet isnt that popular?
Finally could i have some few threads to get me started? I kniw pretty much abiut apple... but Andriid is completly new to me!
Thanks! And sorry for all of the mistakes... The keyboard makes my mind go nuts... it is too big!
Honeycomb (Android 3.0) is newer version than froyo (2.2).
If you can get one with Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) then it is worth returning it
and get a new one.
Most of the tablets are running Froyo or Gingerbread (Android 2.3) .
Honeycomb is closed source, google has not released its software to public.
All other versions as of now are open source AOSP (Android Open Source Platform)
ask them whether it can be upgraded to ICS (4.0)
Well honeycomb is kinda better for tablets since it has a tablet ui but now since they released ics you should check if your tablet is getting the ics update which has a bunch of new features and if it doesn't i think you should get one with the new os.
Right! Look for ics update. It is much better
I don'T think there are many tables with ICS...? Am I wrong? And what about a starter guide?
I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
Wow. Just search through all the topics in the skyrocket forum and you'll find your answer
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This is like some kind of Platonic Ideal of a post here.
But, I'm pretty sure they're going to release ICS at the big Samsung/AT&T/Google event tomorrow.
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I really want some ICS love! Anyone know any thing about any ROMs based off of ICS or.... even better.... CM9? I am new to this rooting thing so...
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Before you ask a question, please search the forum first, therefore other members will not give you harsh answers.
If you are looking for answers to rooting your device, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
If you are searching for rom developments, please go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383
If you are searching for information on Ice Cream Sandwich, best luck is to search google or in the general section. There is NO certain release date of when ICS will be available, but there are rumors and some information that states it will be in Q1 of 2012.
Good luck to you.
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What event? Do you have a link. ?
I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
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I think he's referring to the CES 2012 event on January 9th.
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Indeed. That is the only upcoming event that I am aware of.
I wasn't...LOL. I can't afford to buy another phone. I just pre-ordered the Transformer Prime so I'm out of money...so my wife says.
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Oh thats not tomarrow lol tomarrow is the 5th . Darn i was hoping there was some att/sammy event tomarrow.
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Haha me too my friend l lol the hope jumped up through my body!
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No, I was being mean. There's not event tomorrow and ICS is but a distant dream. Enjoy your device now and don't sweat the OS version number. ICS is not going to give much more over what you have now.
I'm sort of with the OP in wanting to know about any rom based on ICS. I've searched the forums and google to no avail. I'm seeing other devices getting a version of CM9, but nothing for the Skyrocket yet.
So, my question is this: Is anyone working on an ICS rom for the Skyrocket such as CM9? If I had the know-how I'd be all over that since we have such a great and powerful phone. I know AT&T and Samsung will eventually release ICS, but it'll never compare to the likes of CyanogenMod.
No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
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No no ones working on it. Why make a hacked up version. Thats not very functional. When our update is just around the corner. We will see ics, and mabye cm9 but.not until theres a leak for the skyrocket or the actuall update.
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Thanks. Like some others I'm an impatient type...especially after using ICS on my HTC Incredible. Can hardly wait to have it on my Skyrocket, but will sit quietly (maybe) and wait.
Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
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Not saying this to start a flamewar or anything but why are so many people with talent focusing on old roms and tweaks and not ICS? IMO this is what is hurting Android with better development etc, it seems like iOS hacking and tweeking seems to be more tight-knit and innovative, where Android seems to just have (almost) the same thing over and over again.
Now, I am not saying it is the same, there are obviously very difficult functions and programming that needs to be done, but I don't get why all efforts by everyone wouldn't be focused on ICS since it is what Android needs, a fresh new OS that could change the game.
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so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
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so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
samsung has not provided us with enough driver libraries/binary blobs that work properly with AOSP GB, let alone ICS.
the problem here is the manufacturers. they control the proprietary hardware/drivers we need to focus attention on something. we could hack something together, but it wouldnt be worth a crap, and by the time we got something working half decent, Official would be dropped on us with source and we would have to basically start fresh....
tl;dr: it is not worth the time it takes to try to hack something together until we have 'something' from samsung.
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Exactly its not as simple as ics source code being out, you also need proper drivers for the hardware
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so you want us to randomly pull kernel source for ICS (linux kernel 3.0+) out of our ass?
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That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
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....you also need proper drivers for the hardware
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Is it harder for phone hardware? Seems to be a lot of open source, or scene made drivers for, say video cards.
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That answers a lot for me, like I said I am not too familiar coming from Iphone (day one, I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II LTE (Skyrocket))
So obviously you need the kernel to work with the OS, I didn't know they were not released.
So what exactly is open about Android then? If you are at the mercy of the manufacture's to release the kernel, how is that open?
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Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
Hey Pirateghost Really great in-depth info with your permission I would like to add this info for noobs here.
Pirateghost said:
Android itself is OPEN. you can go and build your very own version of 4.0 ICS right now from source code. there are very few phones you can STABLY and RELIABLY run it on though.
The NEXUS line of phones exists for a reason. they are untouched by carriers (verizon teabagged the Galaxy Nexus a little), and do not have some stupid overlay on them. they are developer devices in that it is the first phone to get android updates straight from google (no manufacturer interference required).
every other phone is tainted with a manufacturer's UI. Touchwiz on Samsung phones (galaxy nexus is a samsung but they provided the hardware not the software), Sense on HTC, 'non-blur' on Motorola, whatever Sony calls theirs...lol, LG, etc
on top of that tainted Android interface is a carrier branding or lockdown (doesnt apply to the entire world, but im only referring to US here)
so google releases new version of Android
manufacturers build phone, and customize android to fit their model (this is where android almost stops being OPEN)
carriers get a hold of the manufacturers build of android and tweak and modify it themselves (more than likely they just tell the manufacturers what they want), as you know they love to include bloat and lock it down from the user
you receive your android phone after it has gone through all those steps....long process huh? we dont get updates to newer versions as quickly because of that long process...and they would rather us buy new phones instead of improving perfectly good hardware.
Android is open in the sense that manufacturers can use it however they wish, within reason. it is not necessarily meant to be 'open' to the average end user, and manufacturers dont want you messing with the phone they built. its the reason XDA is what it is today, albeit with roots deep in WinMo hacking.
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