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cognition 3.04 with firebird 2 battery great and feedback

This was my first time putting anything on a phone, and it went surprisingly easy. (with a lot of reading on xda) The cog and firebird development forum are clogged so I thought I'd at least give a little info back in a better spot.
Here is what worked for me.
Flashed rom with cognition 3.04 using CWM
Flashed Kernel with firebird 3 v8. using SGS kernel flasher
Worked amazing, but my friends all heard echos and horrible calling on their end
installed a the JK4 modem using cwm and I can not find one problem with the set up. And it actually makes great phone calls on both sides.
Now I get a 9 satellite GPS lock in 4 seconds according to sgs tools. Compare that to 30 seconds before with stock.
I have a quadrant score consistently at 1550. (800 or so before in stock config)
I bump charged the battery and erased the battery file. I am getting over 16 hours of moderate use before I drop below 30 percent. (with the original firebird and cognition 3.01 I was lucky to get 11 hours before I got a battery shut down. )
Phone makes great phone call.
So overall Cog 3, firebird2 and the jk4 are a flawless combination for me.
The only strange thing was when I flash a modem, my phone wouldn't send outgoing texts for 10 min, then it magically started working normally. I was a bit worried, but now I know not to panic.

i did about the same, with similar results!
i was running cognition 2 before, so i disabled the voodoo lagfix and used ODIN to flash the stock eclair 2.1 rom. went smoothly.
then i rooted the phone and installed cognition 3.04 using CWM. no problem there. i used it for about a day and noticed a better battery life then i'd had before and a nice speed improvement.
after reading up on the firebird kernel, i installed firebird 2 v0.5, again using CWM. i honestly hadn't used cognition without firebird long enough to tell any huge differences, but i've generally been very pleased with firebird.
i've just updated firebird to v0.8. haven't had any issues so far, but i haven't tested it heavily either.
my battery life has been superb and my phone is so much snappier. feels like a new phone, even after using cognition 2 for awhile. i haven't had any problems with call noise, either.

I can't remember but do you lose bluetooth functionality using firebird 2? I thought I read that somewhere...

Hmmm I been using just Cog 3.04 and although It responded great overall, the battery life sucked for me, that was my reason for switching to other roms. Might have to go back and try it out..

I updated directly from Cognition 2.3b8 to 3.04 via Rom Manager becuase I cannot use ODIN, the used CWM to update the kernel. Just rebooted and all seems normal. Will se how the modem works before I update to JK4, like rob ben did.
How I know that I have firebird 2 on board?

how was the battery life before jk4? maybe that's my problem.

flintdragon said:
I can't remember but do you lose bluetooth functionality using firebird 2? I thought I read that somewhere...
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Unfortunately yes. You can connect a bluetooth to the phone just fine, but the only thing you will hear is static.

Tintillo said:
Unfortunately yes. You can connect a bluetooth to the phone just fine, but the only thing you will hear is static.
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Thanks, I appreciate your answer. I was about to flash it but I really need bluetooth in my car. Need to keep both hands on the steering wheel!

The battery is going good so far with firebird 2 and cog 3.04. I have the phone on standy for two hours so far and it only dropped 2%.

Cognition 3.04 worth it? I flashed it once and noticed that the home button didnt work in the Contacts

Where can I find this JK4 modem to flash? I'm using Darky's ROM but the reception is really bad.

I'm still really happy with it. With heavy use I need to charge each night. But today it was pretty low use and I am sitting at 52 percent. The home button works fine for me in contacts. I think amount of use is a subjective term, but for my needs I am perfectly happy with this set up the way it is..
That being said, I'm sure I will try a few other roms just because I like to tinker with things.

Thanks for the info
Been trying different modems and such with little luck

If you find something that works for you, let me know. I might just switch from Darky's with the other problems it is giving me.

Besieged said:
Where can I find this JK4 modem to flash? I'm using Darky's ROM but the reception is really bad.
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Ask and ye shall receive.
Also, most modems are located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
And here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391&highlight=firmware
Just make sure they're clockwork flashable, if you're gonna use clockworkmod. The attached jk4 modem is.

a.vandelay said:
how was the battery life before jk4? maybe that's my problem.
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I stay with jk4 for 2 days, the battery was bad. Last night I change strategy. Moved out of Firebird by flashing the original kernel of Cog 3.04 and changing the modem to jj4. I want to try the apparent consensus I found through this forum that if you have a cappy rom, which Cog 3.04 seems to be (after all is based on the Rogers Cappy), stay with a cappy kernel and a cappy modem. So far I can report that I lost BLN and Voodoo sound management capabilities but I gained bluetooth back. Will tested and if I change to another configuration I will report back.

flintdragon said:
Thanks, I appreciate your answer. I was about to flash it but I really need bluetooth in my car. Need to keep both hands on the steering wheel!
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See my post above: original Cog 3.04 + I897 modem (like jj4, ji6, etc) will give you back the bluetooth. Sound quality and battery life yet to be tested on my end, but seems encouraging based on my first two hours of having this combination.

i'm running phoenix 4.5 w/speed mod kernel T and i'm getting 30-35 hours out of a charge.

Tintillo said:
I stay with jk4 for 2 days, the battery was bad. Last night I change strategy. Moved out of Firebird by flashing the original kernel of Cog 3.04 and changing the modem to jj4. I want to try the apparent consensus I found through this forum that if you have a cappy rom, which Cog 3.04 seems to be (after all is based on the Rogers Cappy), stay with a cappy kernel and a cappy modem. So far I can report that I lost BLN and Voodoo sound management capabilities but I gained bluetooth back. Will tested and if I change to another configuration I will report back.
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48 hours of testing: Cog 3.04 with its original kernel + I897UCJJ4 modem is working smooth. So far 27 hours with no charge and at 44% battery. This, after I recalibrate the battery without erasing the battery stats. Only challenge, is that it will randomly lag with certain apps, which it was not the case with firebird.

Phoenix Rising 4.1 W/Speedmod Kernal K12T-500hz
I am new to flashing roms but have tried about 6 different roms and variations. The above is like lightning and so far (2 days) 100% stable. I run on GSM only with WIFI off unless I need it, 60 to 80 emails a day. 89% battery after 6 hrs use so far today! Seems like the best so far and it flies!

[Opinion][Updated]Inspire Best ROM (I tried them all)

I got my Inspire on release day at 11:00am when BB opened and by 3pm i ran the ace hack kit and it was rooted and had a DHD ROM flashed on the phone. For the first week there was not a whole lot of ROM's or options, but week 2 and 3, they popped up like a bag of popcorn.
The first set of ROM's and kernels (Desire HD ROM's) left people with dingy sound, no you-tube or any video support at all for that matter. Other people experienced Wi-Fi problems as well. Different fixes and patches came out fixing most problems, except sound seems to be the biggest headache trying to find the right combination of audio settings, drivers, etc.
My favorite ROM was CoreDroid, basically because the theme is beautiful, but no matter what radio/kernel I used It took literally 15 minutes to get a satellite lock. I tried faster fix from the market, I went into the system to make sure it was set to North-America and not Europe nothing worked.
Android Revolution is another awesome ROM, however, I had Wi-Fi issues. "Obtaining IP Address" is as far as it would get before finally disconnecting. Once again I flashed different radios and kernels and still no go.
What I finally kept is the Stock ROM Optimized Rooted and to make this ROM super responsive I used LeeDroid's 1.8Ghz Kernel. I use SetCPU and keep it at 1.267Mhz. (1.6Mhz when playing games or multitasking. Never locked up) I can open my app drawer and give it one flick, and i can watch 90 apps zoom by in less then a second with no hesitation ever. It's very fast, very smooth, no force closes, Gps hits 9 satellites in less then 15 seconds we have full lock, mobile data is 3.8 down, 2.2 up (average) bluetooth file transfer works, and voice activated dialing, sound is perfect, and for people looking to tether, just get wireless tether from the market. It does Wi-Fi and bluetooth. I tethered to my playstation 3 just to see how well it would do a HD netflix stream, and it was flawless. Never had to stop to buffer.
I'm also on the stock radio which is 06.04.06_m, Everything is so smooth and perfect I see no need to change until AT&T releases there version of gingerbread and it has ROOT access. The problems I have had with different ROM's are isolated and doesn't mean your going to have the same problem. It's weird but that's how it works. 2 exact phones, both running same setup, can have 2 totally different problems. Just the way it is in Flashing Land.
I'm no Pro, just giving my opinion and facts with my particular unit. The different ROM's seems to be like the captivate. You gain something, you lose something.
Super Circle Battery Icon works great as well. Get it here
3/16/2011 - Version 2 flashed without a glitch. Wireless, Gps, mobile data, all work as well or better. I also flashed LeeDroid's 2.2. 6 o/c kernel and everything is dead on. Great Job

That's all I want to do it root it, increase the volume and get wifi tether working. Right now if you want to not have any drivers issues it seems like the current on the phone works best Thanks for the info!
I also wanted to increase the cpu speed, did you take much of a hit on the battery?

tom504 said:
That's all I want to do it root it, increase the volume and get wifi tether working. Right now if you want to not have any drivers issues it seems like the current on the phone works best Thanks for the info!
I also wanted to increase the cpu speed, did you take much of a hit on the battery?
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Not at all, it last all day. Put SetCPU on "ondemand" and when I'm not using phone for awhile I simply type *#*#4636#*#* and set is to GSM only and that's another way to save a lot of battery. I also use a app called easy switch where I can turn off mobile data completely when not in use. I have awesome battery life.

i've been using the cm7 nightlies. i don't particularly enjoy htc sense and rather prefer the aosp style android.

I too am loving the Stock ROM Optimized-Rooted-etc. I've only tried it and a build of CM7, which seemed not quite as smooth as the aforementioned ROM. Additionally, whenever I played the game Rush Hour and got a perfect score, it would always force close [not a problem with the stock-optimized ROM].
I am considering trying LeeDroid's kernel on top of Stock-optimized ROM to boost performance a little more, but I'm a little unsure about the process. Do I just copy his kernel to my sd card and then flash it in CWM Recovery using the "install zip from sdcard" command? I assume a similar technique is used to install the super circle battery mentioned in the OP?

I don't see RCMix HD in the OP. I've been using 3.4 and it's solid. If you look at the thread there's hardly any complaints.

Great write-up. I've been thinking about starting a thread asking developers/users to give a quick description of popular ROMs and go over the pros/cons. It's kind of difficult to sift through 200+ pages of discussions about each ROM and get a clear idea what it's like. Thanks for throwing your 2 cents in. I've been happy with the stock rooted ROM, but I've thought about trying out a couple of others, maybe Revolution, if anyone wants to through 2 more cents into the pot.

budco2000 said:
. . . What I finally kept is the Stock ROM Optimized Rooted and to make this ROM super responsive I used LeeDroid's 1.8Ghz Kernel. I use SetCPU and keep it at 1.267Mhz. (1.6Mhz when playing games or multitasking. Never locked up) I can open my app drawer and give it one flick, and i can watch 90 apps zoom by in less then a second with no hesitation ever. It's very fast, very smooth, no force closes, Gps hits 9 satellites in less then 15 seconds we have full lock, mobile data is 3.8 down, 2.2 up (average) bluetooth file transfer works, and voice activated dialing, sound is perfect, and for people looking to tether, just get wireless tether from the market. It does Wi-Fi and bluetooth. I tethered to my playstation 3 just to see how well it would do a HD netflix stream, and it was flawless. Never had to stop to buffer.
I'm also on the stock radio which is 06.04.06_m, Everything is so smooth and perfect I see no need to change until AT&T releases there version of gingerbread and it has ROOT access. The problems I have had with different ROM's are isolated and doesn't mean your going to have the same problem. It's weird but that's how it works. 2 exact phones, both running same setup, can have 2 totally different problems. Just the way it is in Flashing Land.
I'm no Pro, just giving my opinion and facts with my particular unit. The different ROM's seems to be like the captivate. You gain something, you lose something.
Super Circle Battery Icon works great as well. Get it here
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I really like the Stock Rom Optimized Rooted as well. I'm not getting as high upload speed as you are, but about 4 times higher than I was getting out of the box. And everything is very smooth onscreen as you mention.
I like Hybrid1.72.zip battery icon with it.
I haven't tried overclocking yet, but after reading your post, that is my next project!

substance12 said:
I don't see RCMix HD in the OP. I've been using 3.4 and it's solid. If you look at the thread there's hardly any complaints.
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this 4.2 Gingerbread version is pretty good IMO, its GPS is accurate, WIFI no problem.
[ROM]Mar 10[NewSense]RCMix HD v4.2 Blazingly GingerBread | Now with Transparency

Yep, Both are are flashed in recovery, kernel takes about 5 seconds

mattbollenbach said:
i've been using the cm7 nightlies. i don't particularly enjoy htc sense and rather prefer the aosp style android.
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I disable sense desktop in titanium and use zeme, or adw

Could you post a screen shot of this Rom the way you have it setup>?>

does mobile hotspot work right off the spot without any setting changes?

Im building a rom/kernel now based off stock Rom and compiling kernel from inspire source. Already got the extended power menu done, hopefully it'll be out in a few days. Not sure if the kernel will be done or not but hopefully I can get it out at the same time as the Rom.

+1 for Optimized Stock Rom. I liked Android Revolution, but my Inspire would take 10-15 minutes to get a GPS lock. With OSR, I get lock in 15-30 seconds. No downside to this ROM at all for me!

di11igaf said:
Im building a rom/kernel now based off stock Rom and compiling kernel from inspire source. Already got the extended power menu done, hopefully it'll be out in a few days. Not sure if the kernel will be done or not but hopefully I can get it out at the same time as the Rom.
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Nice. I used your Captivate ROMs and had great results. I guess I know the next ROM I will be flashing.

di11igaf said:
Im building a rom/kernel now based off stock Rom and compiling kernel from inspire source. Already got the extended power menu done, hopefully it'll be out in a few days. Not sure if the kernel will be done or not but hopefully I can get it out at the same time as the Rom.
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I also still use one of your Roms and will without fail try one in the Inspire when you finish cooking!

Right now I'm undecided and switching between Revolution 4 Beta 2 Gingerbread and twopumpchump's Stock optimized with LeeDroid kernel. I'm getting better download speeds with the latter option but both are exceptionally good roms.

SNadler said:
I also still use one of your Roms and will without fail try one in the Inspire when you finish cooking!
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Any chance Call Record will work in the Inspire as it does in some of your other roms?

Have you tried the gingerbread test radio?

CM7 vs stock android - benefits?

I've had my NS for over 2 months now - love it. Since I bought it, I've been running completely stock android 2.3.3
Like most on this forum, I like to tweak settings and make improvements.
I just want to know if that if I were to root and load CM7 rom on the NS would it improve the speed/battery? (they are the most important factors to me)

Yes it would improve your battery life. Especially when you flash a custom kernel. With this combination, I currently get 24 hours+ with maybe ~30% remaining.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about/features are some of the highlights of the features.
Some benefits on top of my head:
Flashing custom kernel (I suggest you do, its easy)
- Voodoo Sound (Better sound quality, you'd be amazed)
- Voodoo Color (Don't like 2.3.3 colors? Change it back to <2.3.3)
- Overclock (If you're into that) or Underclock
- CFS or BFS
Kernel.. i'd go with Netarchy's 1.2.8 CFS
CM7 Benefits
- Widget Folders (When you add a widget, no more 5 widgets showing Beautiful Widgets.. instead its in a folder; better organization)
- Power Widgets (Notification Pulldown)
- If you use your NS as a music player, it adds a lot of features such as lock screen controls. Using volume rocker to adjust volume while phone screen not on.
- Custom Boot Screens
- Sync with Facebook
Rest are here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=CyanogenMod_Settings

Thanks for your tips. Before I had my NS I had modded my Hero beyond belief!
Would it be easy to send the phone back to a stock ROM and stock kernel? Lets say I had to send the phone back to Samsung to get warranty repaired.
Following on to that question, which is the best way to root?

How's the stability of CM7 on the NS. I just upgraded from my G1 to the NS yesterday, and I was thinking of just running stock until CM7 goes final.

JTopaz said:
Thanks for your tips. Before I had my NS I had modded my Hero beyond belief!
Would it be easy to send the phone back to a stock ROM and stock kernel? Lets say I had to send the phone back to Samsung to get warranty repaired.
Following on to that question, which is the best way to root?
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Yes all you have to do is download a nandroid backup of 2.3.3 or whatever that is stock unrooted. And thats it.
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
@Apre: It's stable. The latest nightly (#19) is more stable than RC2 itself. And dang G1 lol, I upgraded from a G1 last year in Juneish. Looking back on that phone now, the screens so small.

I have CM7 RC2 and i find that my battery drains faster. How do I flash Netarchy kernel?
Put it in SD and update it? or do I do it the ADB way by putting the kernel in the tools folder and with command prompt?

I ran stock for quite awhile after buying this phone because I didn't see any need for custom ROMs with vanilla Android. But I finally decided to give it a shot, and I'd never go back. Vanilla is great, but CM7 and all the other Custom Roms for the Nexus S (Axura, Modaco, etc) all bring more great features and customizations. If nothing else, however, I'd at least root and flash a custom kernel with stock - so you can have some overclock goodness
Edit: In specific reference to your post's questions, I run Axura, and I get both better battery life AND what seems to be a snappier phone (Axura has Netarchy 1.2.5 kernel baked right in). On CM7 I didn't notice much of a speed boost, and I think my battery life might have actually been a little worse, but CM7 packs in a lot of extra features. So it all comes down to preference.

apreichner said:
How's the stability of CM7 on the NS. I just upgraded from my G1 to the NS yesterday, and I was thinking of just running stock until CM7 goes final.
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CM7 will never go final, until its time for CM8. its always being inproved.

cyberdentist said:
I have CM7 RC2 and i find that my battery drains faster. How do I flash Netarchy kernel?
Put it in SD and update it? or do I do it the ADB way by putting the kernel in the tools folder and with command prompt?
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yes. put it in SD, boot into CWR
flash .zip
and you're done.. its the same as flashing a ROM
and as far as battery life.. make sure you disabled latitude (automatic and that other feature) in CM7.. not sure if its still working even though if latitude is disabled, id disable it anyway

apreichner said:
How's the stability of CM7 on the NS. I just upgraded from my G1 to the NS yesterday, and I was thinking of just running stock until CM7 goes final.
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I was so happy with my stock NS that I'd not bothered with CM (my ROM of choice on Nexus 1) until just two days ago. In the first 24 hours I had two issues that I've not had, or at least not seen in a very long time.
First issue - I was at 84% battery after about 4 hours. Put the phone to the side of my desk and 3 hours later it was 100% drained to 0 battery juice. Status graph showed nothing unusual, not long wakelocks, no time without cell signal, screen on only 1.5 hours.
Second issue - 24 hours after install, while listening to a podcast with my long time app for those that's not given crash issues, the playback goes into a constant stutter loop for about 30 seconds, then the phone rebooted.
EDIT: a third issue, happening right as I type this. I'm happily tethered away on my laptop via the NS with CM7, but I just went to check something on the screen and the phone is locked up...won't respond to power button. Screen is black, menu buttons are lit. Still tethering me, though.
Seems there are still some slight issues. I did full wipe/format before installing and am on the stock CM7 kernel still.
cyberdentist said:
I have CM7 RC2 and i find that my battery drains faster. How do I flash Netarchy kernel?
Put it in SD and update it? or do I do it the ADB way by putting the kernel in the tools folder and with command prompt?
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It's an update.zip file you flash from CW recovery. I agree CM7 appears to be harder on the battery.
simms22 said:
CM7 will never go final, until its time for CM8. its always being inproved.
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I suppose that you're technically correct that CM mods never go final because they're always improved, but all prior iterations of CM at least got out of BETA/ReleaseCandidate status at some point.
I fully expect that CM7 will eventually see a version that doesn't have a beta, nightly or RC tacked on to the end of it. Then we'll see all the .x releases with their betas/rc, etc.
I was going to hold off on CM7 until it was past RC stage because I feared it would have some issues, despite all the glowing reports, and it does, but not enough for me to go back to stock. Probably time to flash netarchy on top of this.

zephiK said:
yes. put it in SD, boot into CWR
flash .zip
and you're done.. its the same as flashing a ROM
and as far as battery life.. make sure you disabled latitude (automatic and that other feature) in CM7.. not sure if its still working even though if latitude is disabled, id disable it anyway
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I haven't even activated latitude . I don't have background data enabled either. Not sure what is killing the battery life in CM7 ..

Also, if you're interested. Check out frank707's "NS Collab" ROM. It's basically CM7 without ADW launcher, which is good if you like using CM7 but miss the stock launcher or just frankly don't like ADW.

cyberdentist said:
I haven't even activated latitude . I don't have background data enabled either. Not sure what is killing the battery life in CM7 ..
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hence why i said.. not sure if its still working even though if latitude is disabled, id disable it anyway

I have tried CM7 and felt that its bugs and constant state of upgrading and updating to fix things caused me too many issues for daily use.
I do think that CM7 does perform a bit better than the other ROMS due to it being AOSP based but i feel thats why there are also some of these bugs.
I have been using AXURA by Master and its been flawless for me, the one issue I had with a reboot was due to testing a new overclock, but now I keep it at 1200 max ondemand and it hasn't gave me any issues, The lack of full easy theme support like CM7 is a con but the performance is up there with CM7 and the stability is sooo much better for me, I feel this is because its the Stock 2.3.3 ROM that has been decomplied and tweaked and then compiled again.
Its worth looking at some of the other options as well.

Soft keyboard, touchscreen issue

After a search, I know other people have had this issue with the MT4GS. I'm currently running Virtuous Inquisition 4.02. I'm pretty sure i've flashed any updates. Also, I don't remember having this issue on any other ROM that I have ran in the past (virtuous unity, CM 7). The issue is the soft keyboard not responding randomly to certain keys. The weirder thing is if i use a different finger, it usually responds, but if i keep using the same finger, it won't. Is this my digitizer going bad, or just a soft keyboard thing? I haven't experienced the issue in any other part of android, just when using the soft keyboard. is there a touchscreen driver to flash or anything i can do to fix this? thank you!

At least someone else has my same problem
anitgandhi said:
After a search, I know other people have had this issue with the MT4GS. I'm currently running Virtuous Inquisition 4.02. I'm pretty sure i've flashed any updates. Also, I don't remember having this issue on any other ROM that I have ran in the past (virtuous unity, CM 7). The issue is the soft keyboard not responding randomly to certain keys. The weirder thing is if i use a different finger, it usually responds, but if i keep using the same finger, it won't. Is this my digitizer going bad, or just a soft keyboard thing? I haven't experienced the issue in any other part of android, just when using the soft keyboard. is there a touchscreen driver to flash or anything i can do to fix this? thank you!
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It isn't anything related to the digitizer aparently. I say this because it never gave me a problem using stock rom. This usually happens when the phone gets too hot (you can feel this on the touchscreen). It starts lagging from what i could see, i mean my touches are not recognized properly.
If anyone has a screen calibration .zip laying around i would highly appreciate you to share it

ahh ok thanks for the info. after flashing cm 9.1.0 i can definitely tell the phone isn't getting as hot (according to spare parts, on inquisition the battery would go upwards of 35 celsius regularly, with cm it hasn't gone above 25), and the issue isn't happening anymore. thanks for the help!

rafaelrfq said:
It isn't anything related to the digitizer aparently. I say this because it never gave me a problem using stock rom. This usually happens when the phone gets too hot (you can feel this on the touchscreen). It starts lagging from what i could see, i mean my touches are not recognized properly.
If anyone has a screen calibration .zip laying around i would highly appreciate you to share it
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You won't believe it but I do have something. This will help to increase sensitivity but for the life of me I can't remember where I got it.

anitgandhi said:
ahh ok thanks for the info. after flashing cm 9.1.0 i can definitely tell the phone isn't getting as hot (according to spare parts, on inquisition the battery would go upwards of 35 celsius regularly, with cm it hasn't gone above 25), and the issue isn't happening anymore. thanks for the help!
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That's something I just can't understand...when people have troubles with Virtual Inquisition, that is. My wife runs it ALWAYS and I will jump back to it at least once a month for a while myself. It's always been one of the most stable, coolest running and longest battery life ROMs in my nandroids of my favorites. ANYway....give that flashable a try & see if it helps. The best I remember, you can reflash it until you achieve the sensitivity you're looking for. Good Luck!

WeekendsR2Short said:
That's something I just can't understand...when people have troubles with Virtual Inquisition, that is. My wife runs it ALWAYS and I will jump back to it at least once a month for a while myself. It's always been one of the most stable, coolest running and longest battery life ROMs in my nandroids of my favorites. ANYway....give that flashable a try & see if it helps. The best I remember, you can reflash it until you achieve the sensitivity you're looking for. Good Luck!
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inquisition definitely was very stable and had great battery life, there is little doubt about that. i'm guessing i just didn't flash it correctly, and that caused some really high temps. other than that, i had no issues with it...for example, though, when i was running inquisition, if i left the phone in my pocket and forgot about it until say someone texted me/called me/i got a notification, and i checked the temps, it was at 30-35 celsius, and felt burning. again, i'm guessing i didn't flash it right.
also, thanks for the touchscreen fixer zip, if i have the issue again, i will flash it. fingers crossed i don't need it.
side questions about kernel flashing: 1) do i wipe cache and dalvik cache then flash the kernel zip? 2) is there a way to go back to the original kernel without having to flash the rom all over again?
thanks!

anitgandhi said:
inquisition definitely was very stable and had great battery life, there is little doubt about that. i'm guessing i just didn't flash it correctly, and that caused some really high temps. other than that, i had no issues with it...for example, though, when i was running inquisition, if i left the phone in my pocket and forgot about it until say someone texted me/called me/i got a notification, and i checked the temps, it was at 30-35 celsius, and felt burning. again, i'm guessing i didn't flash it right.
also, thanks for the touchscreen fixer zip, if i have the issue again, i will flash it. fingers crossed i don't need it.
side questions about kernel flashing: 1) do i wipe cache and dalvik cache then flash the kernel zip? 2) is there a way to go back to the original kernel without having to flash the rom all over again?
thanks!
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Wipe user data/cache .....cache....dalvik....battery stats. All of them 3 times. (CWM has some small issues getting everything on the first shot) Then you flash your Rom. Let it set a minute or two. Lastly....Flash your Boot.img. Be sure not to just let windows just show what's in the .zip file and copy it out but highlightit and open it with Winzip (or whatever you use). EXTRACT it to where you flash your files from. If you don't do it like that it will remain partially compressed and you'll forfet the parts of your kernel that are. Once flashed, let it rest for 5 minutes and you should be good to go.
If flashing another ROM ALWAYS follow those rules but if reflashing with another kernel you can forgo clearing user data so you will keep your apps & their placement in your ROM. Just clear everything else reflash your ROM again & then your kernel. It will look just like it did but with the new kernel. If by chance you then have an issue with force closes just go back to recovery & fix permissions & it should straighten that right out.
BTW....If you are unlocked & S-On you will not be able to flash it from recovery in any form or fashion. You will always need to extract the boot.img file and "ADB fastboot flast boot boot.img" from your command window.

WeekendsR2Short said:
Wipe user data/cache .....cache....dalvik....battery stats. All of them 3 times. (CWM has some small issues getting everything on the first shot) Then you flash your Rom. Let it set a minute or two. Lastly....Flash your Boot.img. Be sure not to just let windows just show what's in the .zip file and copy it out but highlightit and open it with Winzip (or whatever you use). EXTRACT it to where you flash your files from. If you don't do it like that it will remain partially compressed and you'll forfet the parts of your kernel that are. Once flashed, let it rest for 5 minutes and you should be good to go.
If flashing another ROM ALWAYS follow those rules but if reflashing with another kernel you can forgo clearing user data so you will keep your apps & their placement in your ROM. Just clear everything else reflash your ROM again & then your kernel. It will look just like it did but with the new kernel. If by chance you then have an issue with force closes just go back to recovery & fix permissions & it should straighten that right out.
BTW....If you are unlocked & S-On you will not be able to flash it from recovery in any form or fashion. You will always need to extract the boot.img file and "ADB fastboot flast boot boot.img" from your command window.
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i'm s-off so i don't need to worry about the boot.img extraction and all that, but the rest was very helpful, thank you very much!

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anitgandhi said:
it was at 30-35 celsius, and felt burning.
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Whenever anyone mentions overheating issues with the device - the first questions should always be:
Are you on a stock battery?
If so, then that is your problem.
I've forgotten to manage setcpu and left it running at 1.7 more often then anything, yet very rarely run into overheating issues...unless I go back to a stock battery (even without overclocking)

Blue6IX said:
Whenever anyone mentions overheating issues with the device - the first questions should always be:
Are you on a stock battery?
If so, then that is your problem.
I've forgotten to manage setcpu and left it running at 1.7 more often then anything, yet very rarely run into overheating issues...unless I go back to a stock battery (even without overclocking)
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i am on stock battery. good to know that it usually causes overheating...glad it's not happening with cm 9.1.0 though

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You won't believe it but I do have something. This will help to increase sensitivity but for the life of me I can't remember where I got it.
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the issue came back (although not as frequently) so i went to flash the zip that you attached... it says it's something relating to beats audio and then it errors out and the installation aborts. i looked at the files inside all have "beats" and "audio" in the filenames...

[Q] So frustrated with the Relay!

Hi,
Does anyone else have problems with sluggish, choppy performance on their Relay? I swear, when I open contacts, go to my phone, even when answering calls it seems like it takes forever, and sometimes it's ambiguous as to whether or not the phone registers input when I tap the screen or buttons. Is there anything that can be done? Will a custom Cyanogen work better than the stock rom? Should I root it after to OC it?
Also, another question I wanted to ask was that I tried following the steps listed on the Cyanogen website (for Windows), and it gave me Linux command lines to run, and it seems that other custom roms aren't compatible with TWRP or Wifi (or something else is wrong that is needed).
Can anyone help? Thanks! :fingers-crossed:

I wouldn't call that normal. It's always had a tiny bit of lag, but only a tiny bit.
CM is faster, yes.
I feel you shouldn't overclock the relay, and that you shouldn't need to for it to perform well.
You mustn't use TWRP with CM. You have to use clockworkmod recovery. This is easily installed with heimdall on any platform, not just linux.

Jax184 said:
You mustn't use TWRP with CM. You have to use clockworkmod recovery. This is easily installed with heimdall on any platform, not just linux.
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Is there a link to a page that can provide step by step information?
I appreciate it.

DJRepresent said:
Is there a link to a page that can provide step by step information?
I appreciate it.
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Yes, it's listed it the CM install directions.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_apexqtmo
Look under Installing a custom recovery.

Thanks.
Also, it says, "The ICS bootloader and radio are not compatible with CM10.2" and gives you those two zip files to download...what should I do with those?
Edit: I just flashed the latest 10.2 nightly as well as Gapps and the two supplemental downloads and it appears to be working WAAAY better. Very fluid, very fast, and no lag comparatively speaking. I really can't believe how T-Mobile fouled up this phone with their garbage ROM.
Just a few questions:
Are there any other supplemental downloads recommended?
Is it possible to use a modified stock ROM that isn't so slow / laggy?
Thanks!

DJRepresent said:
Thanks.
Also, it says, "The ICS bootloader and radio are not compatible with CM10.2" and gives you those two zip files to download...what should I do with those?
Edit: I just flashed the latest 10.2 nightly as well as Gapps and the two supplemental downloads and it appears to be working WAAAY better. Very fluid, very fast, and no lag comparatively speaking. I really can't believe how T-Mobile fouled up this phone with their garbage ROM.
Just a few questions:
Are there any other supplemental downloads recommended?
Is it possible to use a modified stock ROM that isn't so slow / laggy?
Thanks!
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I haven't seen any other supplemental downloads recommended for use.
In "jellybean is out!" thread you should be able to find gee one's debloated Jelly Bean rom, good to read final few pages for info on problems on getting it up and running: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40919585&postcount=30
I was wondering if you could help me out and run Antutu and also Quadrant Standard on the CM10.2 rom. I am interested in how well the rom currently performs on benchmark software as I noticed a big improvement in scores going from stock ICS to stock Jelly Bean rom. Also any feedback on battery life would be great and if you have ran into any issues yet?

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I was wondering if you could help me out and run Antutu and also Quadrant Standard on the CM10.2 rom. I am interested in how well the rom currently performs on benchmark software as I noticed a big improvement in scores going from stock ICS to stock Jelly Bean rom. Also any feedback on battery life would be great and if you have ran into any issues yet?
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My Quadrant Standard Score was 4745; Antutu kept crashing and restarting my phone.

DJRepresent said:
My Quadrant Standard Score was 4745; Antutu kept crashing and restarting my phone.
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Thanks for the info, I wonder why Antutu is crashing. Did you do a factory reset before installing the rom?
Also for Quadrant Standard, any chance of more detailed scores so can compare, this is what I got on stock rom: Total: 6121 CPU: 9589 Mem: 11455 I/O: 6537 2D: 1000 3D: 2024

rudias said:
Thanks for the info, I wonder why Antutu is crashing. Did you do a factory reset before installing the rom?
Also for Quadrant Standard, any chance of more detailed scores so can compare, this is what I got on stock rom: Total: 6121 CPU: 9589 Mem: 11455 I/O: 6537 2D: 1000 3D: 2024
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I don't know if I did a factory reset. Originally I tried overwriting, but then it wouldn't load. So I think that yes, I did select wipe / reset in Clockwork and then reinstalled, and it worked.
Here are my Quadrant scores:
CPU: 7432
Mem: 10233
IO: 3434
2D: 533
3D: 2190
And as far as Antutu, I tried individual testing, and while UX crashed and reset, everything else ranked at 13,096. It showed me a bar of individual tests but I didn't see any numbers.

By the way, can I root my device now that CM is installed? Can I unlock it?

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I don't know if I did a factory reset. Originally I tried overwriting, but then it wouldn't load. So I think that yes, I did select wipe / reset in Clockwork and then reinstalled, and it worked.
Here are my Quadrant scores:
CPU: 7432
Mem: 10233
IO: 3434
2D: 533
3D: 2190
And as far as Antutu, I tried individual testing, and while UX crashed and reset, everything else ranked at 13,096. It showed me a bar of individual tests but I didn't see any numbers.
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Probably a problem with Quadrant Standard as I saw on YouTube some Nexus 4 on Android 4.3 score quite a bit lower. I decided to flash to CM10.2 in the end and it is awesome to use phone without the bloatware. Looks so much better. Also got score on AnTuTu of 17,784, ran stably on my phone.
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By the way, can I root my device now that CM is installed? Can I unlock it?
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You can root it but for unlocking I think you need the ICS stock rom as described on a thread on here: Link.

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Also any feedback on battery life would be great and if you have ran into any issues yet?
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Battery life seems more or less the same - but it's my second day using it. No performance issues so far but a few hiccups here and there.
Still, it's way better than the crap T-Mobile shipped it with.

Isn't the bluetooth flaky on CM on the Relay? I know it is on the Epic 4G. As fast as CM may be on Relay, I'd give that up for a stable bluetooth with stock Jelly Bean.

In my own experience, it seemed like it had a bit more lag after the OTA update from ICS to Jelly Bean. After I rooted it and froze (or removed) some of the bloatware, it's a bit less laggy.
I got my unlock code from T-Mobile a while back, and when I picked up an LG Optimus F3 (woohoo, LTE!), I got an H2O PAYG sim for the Relay. The unlock wasn't a problem on JB.
I'm still thinking of putting CM on it, though. I like the idea of cutting the bloatware down to absolute zero.

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Battery life seems more or less the same - but it's my second day using it. No performance issues so far but a few hiccups here and there.
Still, it's way better than the crap T-Mobile shipped it with.
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Seems similar to me too regarding battery life. Maybe stock with power saving mode could help eek out the battery a bit longer.
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Isn't the bluetooth flaky on CM on the Relay? I know it is on the Epic 4G. As fast as CM may be on Relay, I'd give that up for a stable bluetooth with stock Jelly Bean.
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Is this only with Wi-Fi on? I haven't tried out the bluetooth yet on the Relay.

So far, bluetooth works in my car flawless. Wifi works, but I'm not sure if Wifi calling is working or not.

Bluetooth under the CM10.2 nightlies should be fine. Bluetooth at the same time as WiFi can lead to some performance issues, but it can be alleviated by turning one or the other off, or by using 5.8GHz WiFi.

I guess a reason can arise where you can/want to use both wifi and bluetooth at the same time...but I can't think of any and typically I only use one or the other. So yeah, I meant bluetooth without wifi turned on.

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I guess a reason can arise where you can/want to use both wifi and bluetooth at the same time...but I can't think of any and typically I only use one or the other. So yeah, I meant bluetooth without wifi turned on.
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A common use case would be something like streaming a podcast/music/whatever over WiFi to a Bluetooth Headset while at the gym (or to a Bluetooth receiver in the house).
It's not MY use case, just think it's a reasonably common one.
For now, the functionality of BT and WiFi works insomuch as my wife's phone connects to WiFi where we need to, and Bluetooth in the car.

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A common use case would be something like streaming a podcast/music/whatever over WiFi to a Bluetooth Headset while at the gym (or to a Bluetooth receiver in the house).
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Ah ok. Is there any delay that you know of?
It's not MY use case, just think it's a reasonably common one.
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I got ya. :good: But normally I'd just use one or the other, not both simultaneously. CM came up, so I was wondering about that, especially in regards to the thread's title. lol When I get this phone (there doesn't seem to be anything more powerful than the Relay 4G with a physical keyboard at the moment), besides using it as, well, a phone, I'll use the Bluetooth functionality a lot, too. If its flaky on CM 10.2, I'll just deal with stock rom.