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After rooting and updating to leaked froyo
Will I be able to upgrade to the official update?
Is there a chance I wont be able to?
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You can just one click odin back to stock and you will be able to. I believe there is no way you wont be able to unless you brick your phone of course
Not trying to scare u but I don't think u would be able to. I heard once u root and ur files have been messed with, u will no longer be able to ever update. Not even if u flash back to stock. This happened to me with the update they recently released.I researched why my phone didn't update and came across that info. But I could be wrong and why would u want to go to stock?
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Above info is incorrect. If your rooted you can still update. If you kernel hoped you need to flash back to stock to do the OTA update. I have tested this.
So its safe just so as long as I flash with Odin and don't brick my phone right
Thanks for helping me out with this
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echonc said:
Above info is incorrect. If your rooted you can still update. If you kernel hoped you need to flash back to stock to do the OTA update. I have tested this.
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Tested with which update? Froyo hasn't been released by ATT yet, has it? Sooo Sick of Waiting
Barsky said:
Tested with which update? Froyo hasn't been released by ATT yet, has it? Sooo Sick of Waiting
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the JH7 update for 2.1 eclair......the ONLY update that has come through OTA from ATT
just a thought, why would you want the official update as it will be made so much better after the guys here fix it. then just odin flash it... just my thoughts
happy captivate user cog 7.0 froyo.....
i need to go up to 9.1 but im happy as it is.
I was wondering the same thing. I have a rooted captivate running froyo and I wanted to install the update that was suppossed to fix gps. I erased the root and flashed back to stock eclair and I still couldnt install the update. I spent hours on the phone with att and samsung and did a bunch of factory resets and still no luck. Samsung said that the only thing left to try would be to send it in to them so they could flash their stock os back on it. But then I would be without a phone for a week and they wont give me a loner. Its really frustrating. The only reason I would go back to stock is if they fix the gps issue. That is the only major complaint that I have with this phone.
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So u can't go back to official 2.1 and update to froyo (when released) if rooted
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weirdboy09 said:
So u can't go back to official 2.1 and update to froyo (when released) if rooted
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nobody knows. stop speculating
For the the last JH7 update, I flashed back to JF6 stock via odin one click, then pulled the OTA update via Kies Mini. Since it worked last time, why won't it work again? Once you flash back with Odin 1 click, Kies Mini sees the phone as fresh out of AT&T store. And the phone in such a condition is most certainly able to be updated straight to Froyo.
I just flashed back to 2.1 through Odin and did the update through Settings/Software Update. No issues.
Alright sounds great
I think I might root and get a new rom today
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help
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I was just reading about att updating issues. Came across something that worked for me. After that gps update I wasn't able to check att for updates anymore. So all I did was go to manage apps, filter to all, go to divice manager, delete data, reboot, and I was able to check for updates again. But fyi, I'm not rooted, so not sure if this will help or not.
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You will be able to update, however it will most likely have to be done with Kies.
My phone was rooted and like you all would not allow the OTA update when trying to do so through the phone.
I updated kies itself hooked my phone up and installed the latest update. When doing so though, it removed my root access, reinstalled the bloatware, and undid any changes I did that required rooting (like the circle battery mod).
So updates can be had if you are rooted, it just may always require using the POS program Kies.
noone really knows about ota but probably. kies and odin should still work regardless.
the jf7 ota was not a full rom, it was a small file that contained scripts that replaced modules if i understand it right. froyo probably will need a full install and is more likely to work but is not garenteed by anyone, its all speculation. it is not clear that the last update failing was the intentions of samsung or att, they are not intentionally denying people the update they are just not going to go out of there way to support modded phones when they can save space time and data doing another way. people have reported that kies works and designgears is very fast to release odin versions when new updates are available.
Ahhh the GPS. I was in the car with my family last night and me and my brother have Captivates and I had to ask my mother for her 8GB 3GS so we could GPS our way. So sad. I absolutely love my Captivate to death but it Froyo doesn't fix the GPS I will, 100%, never buy another Samsung phone again. I don't care how awesome they are.
I'm going to wait for the update to be released and for a cooker here to make an awesome rom with the official release.
if you have a rooted and flashed phone why would you want the official update just get it from here, I don't see why this is a cause for concern
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screwyluie said:
if you have a rooted and flashed phone why would you want the official update just get it from here, I don't see why this is a cause for concern
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Because the leaked froyo has issues still.
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I flashed FROYO.UCJI6 (i know this is an old ROM received back in october 2010 with some bugs!) using odin one flash method on my samsung captivate which was running JH7 firmware (which I upgraded from at&t out-of-the-box firmware JF6 through samsung kies program). Now, I am planning to downgrade my phone from FROYO.UCJI6 to 2.1 JF6 (i found the 2.1 JF6 firmware executable file online somewhere) through the same odin one flash method. My questions are:
1. After I downgrade from FROYO.UCJI6 to 2.1 JF6 using odin one flash method, can I upgrade it to 2.1 JH7 through samsung kies mini (the latest kies mini program on my windows 7 64 bit computer?
2. After I upgrade to 2.1 JH7, will I be able to upgrade to 2.2 FROYO if that ever becomes available for samsung captivate?
My current 2.2 is way better than that ECLAIR 2.1 JH7 but it is still not official and contains bugs that are annoying sometimes. Can anyone please guide me on this? I am new to the world of xda and I appreciate any help. I am also very new to the world of this whole ROM flashing thing and I consider myself an amateur at best. PLEASE HELP.
Regards,
Antony
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Please help this new xda member. I need.some help with these questions. Thanks buddies!
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The answer is YES. You can keep using Kies Mini to upgrade to the official 2.2 when it is released. I'd stay away from OTA upgrade. And Kies Mini will be faster way to do it anyway since you don't have to wait for your turn from OTA.
If you are willing to flash leaked froyo, why not try a custom rom. Most are already better then what the official froyo release will be, if it ever comes
I'm thinking of rolling back as well. Mainly because I could never get the market fixed with the leaked 2.2. There's a ton of apps I have to side load from my wifes Captivate and it's getting tiresome. Plus my battery life is atrocious with leaked 2.2.
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The answer is YES. You can keep using Kies Mini to upgrade to the official 2.2 when it is released. I'd stay away from OTA upgrade. And Kies Mini will be faster way to do it anyway since you don't have to wait for your turn from OTA.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. Have one more dumb question. Can I upgrade straight from JF6 to 2.2 through kies? Or do I need to have JH7? I thought any version lower than 2.2 would do. If I am correct then I can keep working with the released froyo and switch to JF6 on the day samsung/at&t release an official froyo update. Please confirm my understanding. Thanks once again
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correct ... you always have the option to Odin back to stock ... just download odin and keep it somewhere safe on your computer for a rainy day
mcord11758 said:
If you are willing to flash leaked froyo, why not try a custom rom. Most are already better then what the official froyo release will be, if it ever comes
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Thank you. I will if I don't get to receive an official froyo in a month (an official release is possible given the recent update of kies mini) Now that I have taste for unofficial stuff, if I don't like the official froyo then I will try all the custom ROMs out there.
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tanneji said:
correct ... you always have the option to Odin back to stock ... just download odin and keep it somewhere safe on your computer for a rainy day
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Thank you for confirming that I can update straight from JF6 to FROYO when / if it becomes officially available to users.
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I was using a custom ROM. In order to upgrade the rom, I used one click odin to restore stock. Then I did a master clear and checked the version of the kernel SW:
Firmware 2.1 -update1
Baseband I897UCJF6
Kernel 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build ECLAIR
This was all expected. Then I checked software update. To my suprise, it said there is a software update. I decided to get the update. It downloaded it, and in the process of installation, it failed exactly at 50% mark. I tried it several time, all with the same result.
Now, the question is what is this update? and why is it failing?
Can someone check their never altered stock captivate if the SW/firmvare/kernel version I listed above match with your captivate.
Thanks
It's been said that once you flash using Odin, even though its Samsung stock, that it will not, or not likely to, update properly.
Its jh7 update
will fail everytime
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Did you try an OTA update or did you try to update with Kies Mini? The update that AT&T is sending you is JH7.
If u want jh7 u can still install via kies or cwm zip
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I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
2.2 will be via kies and I suspect any further updatea will be as well
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ulupinar said:
I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
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Just use Kies Mini...
Kies-Mini
Download Kies-Mini
Install it on your computer
Start Kies-Mini
Make sure your phone is set for USB-Debugging
Hook USB cable to phone
Hook other end to your computer
Kies should see your phone
If Kies can see your phone, UPDATE it to JH7
After Kies is finished updating your phone will be @ True Stock
If that dosen't work get OTA JH7
bames said:
2.2 will be via kies and I suspect any further updatea will be as well
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Hahaha any further updates. Made me laugh
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Went to Samsung to downlod Kies-Mini but it wants to know my model code. How can I tell what that is? Went here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-I897ZKAATT
your link shows model code....you will also see it in my signature
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ulupinar said:
I tried an ATT update. Previous post mentioned that it will always fail. It seems Odin is not returning the phone to full stock state. Not that I plan to go to stock ATT att the moment, but is it even possible now to go to stock ATT, with enabled updates?
Or using custom roms is a one way street, that we will never be able to go to full stock with succesful updates from ATT?
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It is full stock but those OTA updates only work if its being pushed any new captivates will already have the jh7 so att isn't pushing it anymore. Your phone knows its out of date but it can't get the full package anymore
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It's jh7, I don't think 2.2 will be out soon. I was at at&t device support center today. I talked to one of the reps about most problematic phone they have met and we talked about captivate a little bit. He said google released it really early and samsung finished their revise really quick, its just att can't take such a huge amount of data transfer at one time. And att is building up 4g network, less attention will be put on 3g than before.
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You should just stick with custom rom's. The updates you are trying to get are already on 90% of the custom roms and the custom roms have alot more advantages with barley any disadvantages.
The only reason I look forward to the 2.2 release is so we have captivate specific source for froyo I will never again have a stock captivate even if they give us gingerbread next week
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Hydro360 said:
It is full stock but those OTA updates only work if its being pushed any new captivates will already have the jh7 so att isn't pushing it anymore. Your phone knows its out of date but it can't get the full package anymore
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All three of ours failed the first time they pushed it and my brother just got a captivate from best buy a few weeks ago with jf6 on it so at that time there were still some old builds floating around.
bames said:
your link shows model code....you will also see it in my signature
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So then what is differenct between: SGH-I897ZKMATT,SGH-I897ZKZATT and SGH-I897ZKAATT?
Does anyone have it ?
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I was also wondering about this...
I was also very curious about this, seeing as my phone came stock with 2.3.6 and all I've seen is 2.3.5... I suppose you could just update from there.
EDIT: I need more coffee. Please disregard last post, I was linking to a post with the tar for the KK1 2.3.6 update, not the subsequent UCLA3 2.3.6 update. Couldn't find a good link for the LA3 tar (Silver had posted one but the link has been down for a long time).
At any rate, you could Odin back to KJ2 stock and see if the official OTA update is still available (it was available yesterday to me on my secondary skyrocket...)
Anyone notice it was sent from a 777
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I was on 2.3.6 and flashed the ICS and ran it for a few days and went back to 2.3.5 and tried the OTA update for 2.3.6 and it fails every time.
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EDIT: I need more coffee. Please disregard last post, I was linking to a post with the tar for the KK1 2.3.6 update, not the subsequent UCLA3 2.3.6 update. Couldn't find a good link for the LA3 tar (Silver had posted one but the link has been down for a long time).
At any rate, you could Odin back to KJ2 stock and see if the official OTA update is still available (it was available yesterday to me on my secondary skyrocket...)
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redrider67 said:
I was on 2.3.6 and flashed the ICS and ran it for a few days and went back to 2.3.5 and tried the OTA update for 2.3.6 and it fails every time.
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ya i restored to my 2.3.5 and found the update waiting for me. ATT only updates in waves so they don't overstress the network so that could be a reason.
And the update didn't work damn
I'll try it again in a few days, not much of a change anyway between the 2 OS's for me.
ian1 said:
ya i restored to my 2.3.5 and found the update waiting for me. ATT only updates in waves so they don't overstress the network so that could be a reason.
And the update didn't work damn
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Using the link on the forum here to flash back to 2.3.5 will cause the OTA of 2.3.6 to fail every time. Person on another forum took his phone back to a corporate ATT store to have them reload the original OS and then it updated to 2.3.6 first try.
ian1 said:
ya i restored to my 2.3.5 and found the update waiting for me. ATT only updates in waves so they don't overstress the network so that could be a reason.
And the update didn't work damn
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Im asking because i saw that the new official update was released and i wanted to get it but when i plug it into kies it says its up to date. The rom im currently on is the leaked version of uclb3. is it exactly the same? or should i revert to stock with gtgs ultimate unbrick and then update via kies? thanks!
You're up to date, as UCLB3 is what Samsung used for the official release.
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Yes, they're identical.