From reading I am guessing the best way to get teathering to buy PDANet and sideload with Sideload Wonder Machine?
If so has anyone done it and can they explain the steps?
Sorry I new to andriod and SWM
Go to junefabrics website, all you need is there. It walks you through everything during installation.
This belongs in themes and apps, not development
I was able to load and use pdanet without sideloading. Haven't been able to get BT tethering to work but usb works fine. Sure wish I could get wifi hotspot tethering working, I guess rooting will be the only option...
Ya I am, waiting on better rom devlopments before roiting. you get better speed wthe pda net via usb.
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Has anybody tried the pre-installed "Wi-Fi Hotspot" app? I'm kinda scared to try it since I'm worried that it might speak with AT&T and let them know that you're tethering.
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Has anybody tried the pre-installed "Wi-Fi Hotspot" app? I'm kinda scared to try it since I'm worried that it might speak with AT&T and let them know that you're tethering.
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I tried it. It will tell you your account isn't set up for tethering
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mikejames07 said:
I tried it. It will tell you your account isn't set up for tethering
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ATT uses only one data port so teethering or surfing they see the usage as the same Been tetthering for years. JUST DONT BE A HOG ABOUT IT LIKE SOME.
Uh oh...
I know this is posted in other places, so please don't bite my head off.
I can confirm the text message that AT&T sends is no joke. If you call the number in the text, they say there was tethering activity from the line. They will try and force you to the 4 gig plan w/tethering. I denied denied denied and they said if there is ANY tethering activity on your line after October 31, then you will be dropped from the unlimited plan and auto enrolled in the 4g tethering plan without notice. You will also lose the ability to get back on the unlimited data plan, since you violated the TOS.
Way to go, AT&T. You all suck.
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I know this is posted in other places, so please don't bite my head off.
I can confirm the text message that AT&T sends is no joke. If you call the number in the text, they say there was tethering activity from the line. They will try and force you to the 4 gig plan w/tethering. I denied denied denied and they said if there is ANY tethering activity on your line after October 31, then you will be dropped from the unlimited plan and auto enrolled in the 4g tethering plan without notice. You will also lose the ability to get back on the unlimited data plan, since you violated the TOS.
Way to go, AT&T. You all suck.
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yet when they change your plan for you, they have to send you a notice about the changes, and if you don't like the changes, you can cancel your contract.
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yet when they change your plan for you, they have to send you a notice about the changes, and if you don't like the changes, you can cancel your contract.
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That is not really true. Due to your TOS ATT reserved the right to change your plan as long as they told you about it. It even states that all they have to do is send you an email, text, or letter that it has been done. If they change it due to what they can prove is a violation of your TOS then you will have to pay the termination fee.
If you don't call the number then can they really claim they notified you? I got a text the other day. I never tether and did it one time for about 2 minutes and it was the end of the world.
I got the text message and a letter in the mail as well. I haven't called them yet but I'm gonna call to ensure I don't lose my unlimited data. Kinda sucks that they caught me but I was tethering way too much quite honestly.
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The text I got...
AT&T Free Msg: Did you know tethering your Smartphone to a computer requires a tethering plan? Pls call 866-975-0005 for details or visit att.com/dataplans.
Same thing here. I never use the damn thing and 2 weeks ago I woke up early to play WoW and cable internet was down, so I figure what the hell. Anyway, after the email, the txt message and the letter, I called them and the operator said no changes will be done to my account as long as there is no thetering after 10/31/11. She even accused me of using "custom firmware" and recommended I did a "factory reset". Can you believe that? ;-)
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I finally got the email today stating they're gonna change my plan if I don't stop tethering. I'll lose my unlimited data & have to pay another arm for my bill. What should I do? If they change my plan I could get out of my contract, maybe? If I stop using it they won't do anything right? What if I "accidently" used it like once a week instead of everyday? How did they even catch me? If anyone else went thru this I need some suggestions. Thanks
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I finally got the email today stating they're gonna change my plan if I don't stop tethering. I'll lose my unlimited data & have to pay another arm for my bill. What should I do? If they change my plan I could get out of my contract, maybe? If I stop using it they won't do anything right? What if I "accidently" used it like once a week instead of everyday? How did they even catch me? If anyone else went thru this I need some suggestions. Thanks
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I got the letter last month and I'm still teathering
They said if I didn't change it by the next bill they would change it. Keep me posted if they change yours let me know please.
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I got the same letter from AT$T and I've never tethered so I'd like to see them prove squat. I don't think they can tell but I do suspect they send anyone that letter running a non-stock ROM.
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I got the same letter from AT$T and I've never tethered so I'd like to see them prove squat. I don't think they can tell but I do suspect they send anyone that letter running a non-stock ROM.
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Nope. I've been running non-stock ROMs on ATT for a long time now, and I don't tether, and I've not gotten a letter.
Remember that AT&T is using your browser agent string to determine if you're tethering. If you are tethering, try changing your browser agent string on the computer you are tethering.
Somewhere there was a post on the whole thing but I'm having trouble tracking it down right now.
Has anyone actually had att change their plan because of tethering & lose their unlimited data plan?
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I finally got the email today stating they're gonna change my plan if I don't stop tethering. I'll lose my unlimited data & have to pay another arm for my bill. What should I do? If they change my plan I could get out of my contract, maybe? If I stop using it they won't do anything right? What if I "accidently" used it like once a week instead of everyday? How did they even catch me? If anyone else went thru this I need some suggestions. Thanks
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if they change the terms of your contract you have 30 days to cancel without penalty
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Remember that AT&T is using your browser agent string to determine if you're tethering. If you are tethering, try changing your browser agent string on the computer you are tethering.
Somewhere there was a post on the whole thing but I'm having trouble tracking it down right now.
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if they change the terms of your contract you have 30 days to cancel without penalty
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Is this listed/detailed officially anyplace?
Cant do ****
they cant change your plan because they cant prove your doing it and they cant chang your contract
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They can cancel your unlimited data at any time. You did not sign a contract with unlimited data, you signed a contract for 24 months service. That's why you can cancel your data at any time, and change your rate plan at any time. You also agreed not to tether in the att terms and conditions (unless you purchase the tethering plan). By tethering you have already violated your end of the bargain. Somewhere, either in store, on the phone or online when you signed up for unlimited data you agreed not to tether. They are within their right to not only charge you more for SUSPECTED tethering, but to also back charge you for previous months. They have no burden of proof. They may not force that issue, for fear of bad PR, but they are well within their legal rights to charge you for tethering, and hold you to your service contract. They have been known to send accounts to collection, and hurt your credit.
I am not saying I agree with them, bug its all in the gigantic Terms and Agreements.
Don't be under the false assumption that they cannot charge you more, or that by charging you more you can get out of your contract.
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Am I the only one using Straight Talk? $45 a month everything unlimited(so far). I get my service from ATT towers but dont actually answer to ATT. I tether on the regular but nothing big. Mostly browsing. And big downloads. Where i live dial-up is the only option so I feel like I have no choice(Yes I still live in the US). Straight Talk has no tethering plan but their T&S clearly states they're against it. Straight Talk themselves probably doesnt care. ATT problem right? And ATT cant say anything because I dont use their service. Who's problem am I?
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Don't be under the false assumption that they cannot charge you more, or that by charging you more you can get out of your contract.
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If they change the terms of your contract (including adding or removing features) you DO IN FACT HAVE 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE YOU SERVICE WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE
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If they change the terms of your contract (including adding or removing features) you DO IN FACT HAVE 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE YOU SERVICE WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE
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Data is not part of your contract.
You are right, if they do in fact alter the terms of your contract you can terminate. But, by charging you for illegal tethering they are not altering your contract.
*#$% DATA IS NOT PART OF YOUR CONTRACT. YOU AGREED NOT TO TETHER. YOU VIOLATED THE TERMS NOT AT&T. %$#*
Data is not part of your contract.
I hope I said that enough.
Go ahead, continue tethering, and when they charge you for tethering, stop paying your bill. Report back how that works out for you.
Look up the Wireless Customer Agreement on AT&T's website. Section 6.2.
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If they change the terms of your contract (including adding or removing features) you DO IN FACT HAVE 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE YOU SERVICE WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE
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Read your TOS. In it ATT states that they reserve the right to change you plan as needed as long as they let you know. And tethering without a tethering plan breaks your TOS so you would still have ta pay the ETF.
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Remember that AT&T is using your browser agent string to determine if you're tethering. If you are tethering, try changing your browser agent string on the computer you are tethering.
Somewhere there was a post on the whole thing but I'm having trouble tracking it down right now.
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Does that mean AT&T can't tell I am tethering if I tether my wifi-only Android tablet via my phone since both of them are running Android OS?
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Does that mean AT&T can't tell I am tethering if I tether my wifi-only Android tablet via my phone since both of them are running Android OS?
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Only att knows for sure what they look for. They have not, nor will they ever, tell customers what they look fir to determine tethering. Browser agent is the best guess at this point.
With that set up you should avoid detection, but there are no guarantees.
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Does that mean AT&T can't tell I am tethering if I tether my wifi-only Android tablet via my phone since both of them are running Android OS?
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Great question, my understanding was the browser identification method was one possible way to ping a person for tethering, but there were other possible methods available they could (more work for them perhaps) be using to track people. But nobody knows for sure.
If it is just the browser I would say you're much safer than a person tethering to a normal computer installation.
edit: Ha, quarlow beat me to it by a few min.
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Data is not part of your contract.
You are right, if they do in fact alter the terms of your contract you can terminate. But, by charging you for illegal tethering they are not altering your contract.
*#$% DATA IS NOT PART OF YOUR CONTRACT. YOU AGREED NOT TO TETHER. YOU VIOLATED THE TERMS NOT AT&T. %$#*
Data is not part of your contract.
I hope I said that enough.
Go ahead, continue tethering, and when they charge you for tethering, stop paying your bill. Report back how that works out for you.
Look up the Wireless Customer Agreement on AT&T's website. Section 6.2.
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I am not on AT&T nor am I a US law expert but the fact that you keep pointing out "You Agreed Not to Tether" seems to imply that there is a contract. Otherwise what exactly did you agree to. A contract does not have to be written as far as I can remember. If data is not part of a contract then I cannot violate any TOS because as you state there is no contract. Your voice and data may not belong to the same contract but I would bet that there is some sort of contract that governs your data and thus any laws regarding changing the Terms of a contract should apply.
This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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This is bull****. Yesterday I was using my mobile ap on my computer and everything was going fine. Then a message popped up in my browser saying to continue using the mobile ap I need to add it to my plan for 14.99. Idk about all of you but I've had no problems since I got this phone at launch using the wifi sharing is there a way around this cuz T-Mobile is really starting to piss me off.
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Yep, don't use the t-mobile tether app download wifi tether for root users from the market and use that. I'm assuming you are rooted?
Yea I'm rooted lol I've tried 3 tethring apps off the market and they had the same result as the built in one. I can't find the one your talking about tho. All I'm finding is the ones I already tried.
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I used pda net but u got to pay the pro to used https websites so no fb or gmail etc
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OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
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OP: have you gone over your high-speed data cap? i read somewhere that Tmo mainly charges for tethering if you use a LOT of data. but yeah, that would suck if they are now charging for the use of the data we have already purchased!
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No they changed it all its an added feature now. I got wifi tethering for root users tho. So I think everyone should get it maybe have it included in roms too seeing as tmobile are being cheap *****es now
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It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
Networks are greedy they suck.
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It sounds like it's not the wifi app that's doing it, but the t-mobile data servers. I imagine they're acting as a captive portal, redirecting pageloads from a browser with a desktop user agent to their nag screen or something along those lines. I use a Sidekick 4G with the stock firmware and wifi app up here in Canada on the Wind network and it's been working fine.
(BTW, Wind beats the crap out of any American carrier! Their plans include free tethering.)
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A lot of the android browsers are able to set user agent as desktop so I doubt it's that. They have blocked the free tether apps from the market and only provide theirs so I think it's just them monitoring their app.
BTW I'm jealous of your free tethering, as soon as the carriers heard people were doing it here they were quick to monopolize on it
Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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Well, if t-mobile is able to interfere with wifi tethering even when you use a third party wifi tethering app, then there must be something else at play. I can't say what though as I'm not on t-mobile.
<brag> Wind is even better than that. $40.00 after tax for unlimited calling, unlimited long distance to US/Can, unlimited text messaging to anywhere on earth, unlimited data with tethering. And I get that whenever I'm connect to a Wind tower, anywhere in Canada. It doesn't distinguish between my home city and another. And no contract. It's prepaid! </brag>
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
Have you tried sneaking one of the third party apps on to see how it works?
That's staggeringly awful. This is the most featureful cell phone plan available, and it's $40. I'm told that people in another province got the plan for $35 at one point.
Yeah we have to side load the apps, google search and download from the browser. I've had a copy in my sd card since the g1 days when things were good lol.
We also have at&t trying to buy out t-mobile which would more than likely drive prices up further. there are a few pay as you go carriers that offer cheaper plans for unlimitted data and text (around $40) but the minutes are rarely unlimited, the data is slower, and they are buying towers off the bigger companies so coverage is usually terrible
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've always gotten Wireless Tether straight from the Google Code site. It always has the very latest versions, but somtimes earlier ones are the more stable.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
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What I mean is they block them in the actual market, like you can't download them. They have no way of monitoring 3rd party apps, that's why I think almost all US carriers have capped data so they can try and stop some.
Not fair man, US needs to get on bord with the contract free stuff. A cheap cell phone plan here for unlimitted is $80 a month and that comes with a 2 year contract, at&t and verizon charge around $120 for unlimitted
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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I dunno man, I got 2 unlim calling lines and 2 lines with their own 500 minutes. All 4 lines have unlim SMS and data (throttled after 2gb), and I pay $132. BUT, I'm on contract. Shoot, for these prices I'd sign up for a 20yr contract lol.
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Yeah that's the only way you can get a good deal, if you have several lines on an account. Unfortunately us americans aren't into the whole "sharing" thing so finding people to sign up with you tends to be difficult ;P
What?
EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default. http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...PAsset=InternetEmail&tp=Svc_Tab_TetheringWifi
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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The way tmobile explained it to me was they noticed ppl using it and changed their service if your using it and not getting the message its only a matter of time according to the reps I spoke to. I'm thinking the more data you use that gets picked up as being sent through mobile ap the quicker they catch on and slap you with the message and put a stop to it
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So I'm still getting the tmobile page when I tether to my computer even when using wif tether for root users... this sucks :-/
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EDIT: Only post paid costumers have that issue... prepaid still doesn't have the tethering service available... so it is enabled by default.
I'm not sure what everyone is talking about... I'm wifi tethering and I've never seen that message. I only tether to a linux computer though. I'm also on the $30 5GB 4G prepaid plan, with unlimited text and 100 mins (I voip with grooVe).
Maybe they are attacking specific customers... I don't think wifi sharing is even an option for prepaid. Perhaps I should stop paying a month in advanced.
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I'm on T-mobile prepaid monthly 4g plan, rooted running GingerClone ROM on my Sidekick 4g, and I've had no problem tethering. (mostly just testing it out to see if it works, running speed tests etc.)
I can see how T-mobile cracks down on post-paid plans running stock software, but with a prepaid plan on a wifi-sharing-capable phone with a custom ROM, I'm in the clear, right? T-mobile can't block tethering or charge me for it?
But ya, charging $14.99 to tether using data that you're already paying for is a complete scam. Seems like a class action suit waiting to happen.
Alright guys, there is still a plan code for unlimited hotspot for our 4G phones that WILL also change your plan to unlimited data. Keep in mind some reps will NOT know this and some might have to search up the feature code. BARE WITH THEM AND DONT BE **** HEADS BECAUSE THEY WILL LOG THE ACCOUNT WITH NOTES AND YOU WILL BE OUT OF LUCK. If the rep tells you they cant do anything or cant find anything simply be polite, hang up then call back.
After you find someone who has added this plan then go to your my Verizon and remove the unlimited hotspot feature. You will be left behind with unlimited data for $30.
This is all based on the rep you speak too, it works for some and it doesnt work for others. Just be patient.
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Just did this i am going to hold out and keep it for a month and see who gets busted. If people do get busted i will just keep it with my discount it is costing 24 dollars if you go over 1.001 gig it basically pays for it self on the 30 dollar double your gig plan. Hurry up i am sure that loophole will come to an end shortly.
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Just did this too but I had to call back cause the first girl didn't know anything really lol my "my Verizon" widget says i have unlimited lol
Yeah but if you add the Unlimited 4G hotspot plan on, doesnt that already replace your current data plan with that unlimited 4G hotspot plan? And therefore, you will already have unlimited data?
hmmm.. wondering if this will work for those of us that pay just $20/month for 300MB....
Just did this and it worked. Great tip.
Everyone should jump on this.
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Terrigno said:
Just did this and it worked. Great tip.
Everyone should jump on this.
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Took a little for the app to update but it worked still says unlimited and the hotspot is indeed off. Wow lol good ****
Thanks so much! I have to have hotspot and don't want to worry about being throttled. I was paying $50 for the 6gb with hotspot. Called in and asked for the "4g hotspot" plan like the post said. I also saw it under features on account management but it didn't actually say "unlimited". The rep didn't seem to know about it. Once he found it he said it was a November promotion but since it was only December 2nd he'd see if he could get it done for me. Sure enough. Came back and said he got it approved. Now have unlimited data on phone and hotspot for 1 cent less a month. Thanks! I guess I could always remove the hotspot and retain the data plan but I'm fine for now. Interestingly enough. My old data with hotspot was all within the data section. Now I just see unlimited data for $30 in the data section. Then the 4G hotspot feature is found in the "features" section. So I don't see the problem in dropping the hotspot plan and keeping the unlimited data whenever I want. They aren't tied together like my old data plan was.
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YAYS!
I did this yesterday. Took three tries until I got a rep that would help me do it. Here's hoping it lasts/doesn't cause problems! I wouldn't think it would but you never know with these carriers. They are evil!
I wonder how long this is going to work? I'm switching to Verizon within the next month or so
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Thanks OP for linking back to the instructions. Thanks to others for guidance also. I just called and it worked no problem on first call. I joined Verizon exactly 1 month ago so no chance of grandfathering for me.
My exact steps(about a 5-10 minute process):
1- *611
2- option 4
3- spoke "add a feature"
4- enter password
5- spoke to an outgoing customer service lady
6- told her, exact words: "I want add the unlimited 4G hotspot feature to my plan"
7- 1 min later it was done. She told me I would now have unlimited data vs. the 4 gigs I had.
8- hung up, refreshed "My Verizon Data" widget and it was unlimited!!
9- logged into My Verizon, change features under plan, removed 4g hotspot($30.00 add-on)
10- unlimited data for $29.99 remains on my plan
11- SUCCESS!!!
5 tries...success. Watchout cause they accidentally put "global 4G data 50mb" for 30.00 per month...had to call to get removed but only took a second. Let's hope they don't go back and change it
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This just worked for me on the second try with my wife's phone. Not only did it work, but she didn't even put the hotspot on the phone, just made it unlimited data
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It works!!!
Just upgraded 2 phones on our family plan. Actually went right to unlimited data, without the hotspot thing, from our existing 4 GB double data plan. Took several tries, but once you hit the right rep. they do it in like 2 minutes.
Nevermind the last part of my last part. The 4g hotspot wasn't showing up on the my Verizon app, but when I logged into the site it was there so I have to take it off. Also when I did this I found out that apparently I'm over paying on my family plan shared minutes by $20
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Glad it worked guys!
As soon as my charge is fixed I'm doing this. yusssssss
Worked for me this morning on my first call, however he did put me on hold for 10 minutes. I did not have to cancel the hotspot online because it automatically cancelled my previous data pack and says "unlimited data / email access". Widget does indicate unlimited! Does anybody else know if I leave it like that will it charge me twice for data? I tried to find my regular 2gb data pack but it wasn't there anymore. And when I went to "change features" it said the my data pack ( that I just added) was not available anymore and if I deleted or changed it I would not get it back..... interesting!! Thanks ForeverSupra I'm Stoked!!
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As soon as my charge is fixed I'm doing this. yusssssss
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Why not try it now? You don't have to have a working phone for them to change your plan.
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Why not try it now? You don't have to have a working phone for them to change your plan.
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My droid x is still on my plan because the charge couldn't activate due to no MEID.
I'm trying to fix it incase dude on ebay stiffs me. Otherwise phone works perfect.
I've been using mobile hotspot on my inspire for about 4-5 months after rooting the phone. All was well... I was using my laptop and speed was decent to check emails, youTube, general browsing.
But I just a mail from at&t saying that "we noticed that you have been using the hotspot feature but you don't have the feature addon on your account. If you continue to use the hotspot feature, your account will be billed $45 automatically on your next billing cycle. If don't use the hotspot, you will not be billed". Hmmm... Anyone using hotspot on at&t get something similar notification from at&t?
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I have never heard of this before. Can they do that? Being Sarcastic
Got that back in October. Yes they can do that. I just stopped tethering.
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Yeah. I stopped tethering now. It was kinda weird that at&t sent the letter now.
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This has been covered all ready. ATT is cracking down on all teathering.
Yep, I posted something about this like a month or so ago.. I got the same letter. I just stopped tethering and have yet to hear anything about my data usage since. And I haven't noticed any throttling either except when they were threatening me about the tethering and such
I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
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I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
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No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
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No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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Does nobody read the TOS? This has been gone offer alot as of late.
But you are right. The standard of society is motivated by greed.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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I totally agree. 10chars
Only thing that gets me is everyone releasing all this new online crap, cloud storage, music/video streaming etc and now they're capping you on data usage. It's almost like its 1997 again and we're paying for AOL by the hour lol... At least having a 5gb package instead of the normal 2gb would be a bit more reasonable
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I've been warned before for something from AT&T I had hacked facetime on my iPhone 3gs they sent me a text saying that my phone wasn't registered for a facetime plan and then after that I guess there were characters my phone didn't recognize and half the message was in squares. The first day I had my iPhone though I had gotten a text and email pretty much telling me to stop tethering even though my iPhone wasn't even "set" up -.- it got me worried but I never got a price change
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PDANET hides the fact that you are tethering and you do not need root. It only works with bluetooth or USB cable, you can not use hotspot.
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If you think that's bad, I got booted off my unlimited plan today for tethering when I havent tethered since October and got the warning text in November :/ The lady at at&t said something about third-party apps using tethering without my knowing and to delete all of them off my phone. Don't know who they are trying to fool
ATT is removing the unlimited plans by any means they can. This is not surprising as they stated publicly that this was the plan. They use the tethering ploy as in common use there is no reason one should be using that much data to be honest with work, family and personal lives. Then add in the fact that wifi is just about everywhere.
AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
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AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
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And you think big red is any better or T-Mobile? They are all doing it. It is about money plain and simple. This is nothing new or surprising
Donate me a few million and I will build us a satellite and we can have all our own service running 15g jkjk I'm tired of restrictions is all... I mean the new T-Mobile commercial says hey you get unlimited everything for 50$ a month then in fine print it says " after 100mb of 4g you're speeds get dropped to 2g" like wtf really? What's the point of having unlimited 2g? I mean I am on a plan with 2gigs of data but only have edge where I'm at I'm glad to have wifi where ever I'm at so it doesn't bother me too much but for companies to say they give us the best and then only give us a taste and tease us with it should be illegal -.-
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I come home today and find a letter from AT&T and open it up (thinking this outta be good)...Apparently they finally figured out the way they're gonna force us (those in grandfathered unlimited data plans) off. Their letter goes as following:
"Dear (My Name)
We've noticed your service plan may need updating.
Many AT&T customers use their smartphones as a broadband connection for other devices, like laptops, netbooks or other smartphones- a practice commonly known as tethering. Tethering can be an efficient way for our customers to enjoy the benefits of AT&T's mobile broadband network and use more than one device to stay in touch with important people and information. To take advantage of this feature, we require that you have a tethering plan.
Our records show that you use this capability, but are not subscribed to our tethering plan.
If you would like to continue tethering, please log into your account online at www.wireless.att.com, or call us 866-975-0003, Mon-Fri, 6am-midnight or Sat-Sun, 8am-9pm CT, by the end of this month sign up for a plan that allows tethering. Viable plans include the DataPro 5GB for Smartphone plan, the DataPro Enterprise plan, or any of our AT&T Mobile Share plans."
They then go on to list both plans priced $50 and $65 then go on to say "If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you in one of the above individual Smartphone DataPro 5GB plans in an upcoming bill cycle........If you discontinue tethering by the end of the month, no changes to your current plan will be required."
Funny thing is I don't tether and any usage has been me watching netflix, youtube videos, downloading files from threads here and browsing the web. I wanna complete listing of these alleged "records" they speak of because I'll be damned if they get me off my unlimited data plan!
I got the same letter today. Also got a text
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It's based strictly on usage. I routinely use my phone as a mobile hot spot for my laptop, but only when absolutely necessary and only for a few MB at a time. I've never once heard from AT&T. Meanwhile, I know someone who never tethers to their phone (why would they when they have a mobile wifi router FROM AT&T?). They do, however, smoke through 3-4GB of data per month, as they use their phone in lieu of a laptop when on the road. Now, not that I would ever piece together what I've learned through casual conversation with an AT&T employee or two, but they've both suggested that something like this might resolve the situation if you're ever presented with it:
1. Call AT&T. Ask for supervisor right away--don't waste time with the peons.
2. Ask for the supervisor's name and number. Write them down. Inform supervisor that you received the letter, but do not tether and never have. Ask what "records" they're pulling from. You'll probably get a "usage" reply. If so:
3. Ask them how simple data usage can indicate whether you're tethering or not. They'll most likely say that the amount of data you're using is indicative of tethering.
4. Ask whether your plan contains unlimited data. The answer, of course, is yes. State once again that you do not tether, and as your plan has unlimited data linked to it, they cannot use the amount of data you consume as evidence of tethering.
5. Without giving the supervisor a chance to talk, quickly state that unless they can produce for you documentary evidence of cell data traffic being generated by a device tethered to your phone (here's a hint--they can only see your phone's data, they can't see anything connected to it), you expect them to honor the unlimited data agreement you have with them, and any attempt on their part to move you onto a different plan will be seen as a breach of that agreement and handled as such. Tell the supervisor that you expect a call from the call center's manager within 24 hours to acknowledge that your plan will not be changed absent documentary evidence of tethering, which you are not engaged in in the first place. Confirm the supervisor's name and number with them, "just in case we have any discrepancies when I talk to the center manager".
Not that I would've ever relied upon friends in the right places to detail such an approach for me or anything, but I have heard through the grapevine that the tethering letter consistently goes out to unlimited data users in certain "usage brackets", and they're banking on us not knowing that their towers can't tell whether the data is coming from our phone or from a laptop tethered to it.
Att did the same thing with Iphone users but it wasn't a bluff.. They knew in fact you were tethering...
I wouldn't be so quick to assume they are going only on data usage..
I'm willing to bet they know the second you tether...
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It's based strictly on usage. I routinely use my phone as a mobile hot spot for my laptop, but only when absolutely necessary and only for a few MB at a time. I've never once heard from AT&T. Meanwhile, I know someone who never tethers to their phone (why would they when they have a mobile wifi router FROM AT&T?). They do, however, smoke through 3-4GB of data per month, as they use their phone in lieu of a laptop when on the road. Now, not that I would ever piece together what I've learned through casual conversation with an AT&T employee or two, but they've both suggested that something like this might resolve the situation if you're ever presented with it:
1. Call AT&T. Ask for supervisor right away--don't waste time with the peons.
2. Ask for the supervisor's name and number. Write them down. Inform supervisor that you received the letter, but do not tether and never have. Ask what "records" they're pulling from. You'll probably get a "usage" reply. If so:
3. Ask them how simple data usage can indicate whether you're tethering or not. They'll most likely say that the amount of data you're using is indicative of tethering.
4. Ask whether your plan contains unlimited data. The answer, of course, is yes. State once again that you do not tether, and as your plan has unlimited data linked to it, they cannot use the amount of data you consume as evidence of tethering.
5. Without giving the supervisor a chance to talk, quickly state that unless they can produce for you documentary evidence of cell data traffic being generated by a device tethered to your phone (here's a hint--they can only see your phone's data, they can't see anything connected to it), you expect them to honor the unlimited data agreement you have with them, and any attempt on their part to move you onto a different plan will be seen as a breach of that agreement and handled as such. Tell the supervisor that you expect a call from the call center's manager within 24 hours to acknowledge that your plan will not be changed absent documentary evidence of tethering, which you are not engaged in in the first place. Confirm the supervisor's name and number with them, "just in case we have any discrepancies when I talk to the center manager".
Not that I would've ever relied upon friends in the right places to detail such an approach for me or anything, but I have heard through the grapevine that the tethering letter consistently goes out to unlimited data users in certain "usage brackets", and they're banking on us not knowing that their towers can't tell whether the data is coming from our phone or from a laptop tethered to it.
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Exactly! I literally haven't tethered and my data usage did surpass 5GB last month ( I got the infamous text the very last day literally minutes before my billing cycle resets) but is around 3.5 this month....this is a pathetic move on their part to bank on people not opening that letter and change their plan without notice. Once the subscriber notices the call will go something along the lines of "Oh I'm sorry there's nothing we can do as it's a system change and we can not reverse or restore that previous plan." As if I don't pay enough for my monthly plan as it is......corporate greed at its best.
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Att did the same thing with Iphone users but it wasn't a bluff.. They knew in fact you were tethering...
I wouldn't be so quick to assume they are going only on data usage..
I'm willing to bet they know the second you tether...
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Based on what those in the know have told me, they have no way of knowing and go solely by usage on Android platforms.
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Based on what those in the know have told me, they have no way of knowing and go solely by usage on Android platforms.
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Either that is 100% false or I'm very lucky.. I get throttled from att every month still and in my protest have reached 30gb+..
The only time I got a letter from att I was on an Iphone and was in fact tethering.
I do believe att knew this whole time about tethering but didn't care because they had bigger fish to go after.. Android will eventually level the playing field and att will be concerned with our data usage also.. That might be what you see going on now.. Att trying to go after tethering android users before it becomes a bigger problem...
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Based on what those in the know have told me, they have no way of knowing and go solely by usage on Android platforms.
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They don't. They just rely on usage patterns to determine if you're a "data hog" and look for backhanded ways to penalize you based on that data ( really only applicable to those remaining unlimited data folks ) If I was on a tiered data plan they could give two ****s what and how I use up data they'd encourage me to rack up all the GB of data I can and smile at the end the billing cycle cause they know I got ****ed good and hard.
Not the first time I have received the letter, all times I had in fact tethered in the month prior.
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Part of me hopes they pull this with me so I can get out of my contract...I used 16 GB a few months ago and no letter though. Oh and I never tether.
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They know if you tether. That's why certain tethering apps have spoof capabilities to mask your ID.
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It's all in HOW the tethering is done. If the app or ROM just simply says to use the built in tethering, then it's very trackable. If the tethering is spoofed to look like the normal data connection, then it can't be tracked.
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It's all in HOW the tethering is done. If the app or ROM just simply says to use the built in tethering, then it's very trackable. If the tethering is spoofed to look like the normal data connection, then it can't be tracked.
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All I use is foxfi and got the letter FWIW
And no, you can't get put of your contract with att on something like this ....its in the fine print that they can change pretty much whatever they want.
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00mred00 said:
All I use is foxfi and got the letter FWIW
And no, you can't get put of your contract with att on something like this ....its in the fine print that they can change pretty much whatever they want.
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Fine print isn't automatically legally binding. That guy sued AT&T for throttling and won.
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Fine print isn't automatically legally binding. That guy sued AT&T for throttling and won.
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That guy won simply because it was proven they were throttling him at a lower usage than an equally priced capped plan.
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And no, you can't get put of your contract with att on something like this ....its in the fine print that they can change pretty much whatever they want.
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Legally, you are correct.
However, if you speak to the right people, anything is possible; ESPECIALLY if you've been a customer in good standing for a long time.
Not saying it could happen, just saying it's possible. I missed out on unlimited data, but I do agree with the person on page 1 who numbered out the steps. That is definitely the right way to go.
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Legally, you are correct.
However, if you speak to the right people, anything is possible; ESPECIALLY if you've been a customer in good standing for a long time.
Not saying it could happen, just saying it's possible. I missed out on unlimited data, but I do agree with the person on page 1 who numbered out the steps. That is definitely the right way to go.
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I agree with post on page 1 for sure. I wouldn't be very optimistic on being released from contract obligations though
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00mred00 said:
All I use is foxfi and got the letter FWIW
And no, you can't get put of your contract with att on something like this ....its in the fine print that they can change pretty much whatever they want.
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I used foxfi too... first time this month. Probably around 30mb only, decided to try it to see if it works. I received the exact same mail.
Wonder if I should call or not because it says if you stop they will not switch you over. Now, I'm thinking maybe I should. I spent 3gb last month (our area is not LTE but my phone is LTE). What's the best advice on how to go about calling them? SHould I admit to using it or pretend I didn't.
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I used foxfi too... first time this month. Probably around 30mb only, decided to try it to see if it works. I received the exact same mail.
Wonder if I should call or not because it says if you stop they will not switch you over. Now, I'm thinking maybe I should. I spent 3gb last month (our area is not LTE but my phone is LTE). What's the best advice on how to go about calling them? SHould I admit to using it or pretend I didn't.
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Last time I got the letter I just told them I downloaded some app , was unaware of it being an issue, thanked them for the warning and let them know I wpuldnt do it again
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Att probably targets high usage customers for data profiling. When your WoW user agent pops up... bam, they send the letter.
Replace "WoW" with your favorite easily-profiled bandwidth-sapping client, Windows time request, etc.
And that's ignoring any differences between Windows/Linux/android networking stacks that can be finger printed...
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