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question about buying a tablet

Hi peeps been looking around at the android tablets on the market and wondering if i should take the plunge?.Thought i would ask here as you guys probably have more experiance than most.Can you recomend a couple?, i'm not looking to spend a fortune just want something that covers most bases and doesnt struggle to run the usual suspects.HDMI out would be a plus but any ideas you can offer or just give me ideas on what not to buy.Any helps good, thanx in advance.

I have a smoldering interest in a tablet as well but I will continue to hold off as my Lenovo X61t and Windows Phone compliment each other pretty well and I don't "need" one.
However, I have taken note of the Archos' that were just released. The general feeling is that they feel cheap in build quality but the price and performance is right there. This is engadgets take on the two tablets they have.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/24/archos-70-and-101-internet-tablet-review/
I have used the Samsung Galaxy S and it is a nice device. Gotta be honest though, nothing seems to be "more complete than the ipad", just in terms of docks, jailbreaking, best apps, etc.
There are so many 'knock offs' in this category, let us know what you find!

I agree in the upset front, it's a great piece of kit but I refuse to spend that kind if money. Have found plenty of cheap ones, and I don't mind the price tag but most are just a bit gutless lol. But yeah likewise bring the info if you find something good.
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Back again, on the subject off cheapo knock off tablets have you seen the a-ok pad lol now don't laugh. I could be persuaded to gamble on something as (shall we say rough) if it ticked the right boxes. Anybody heard if them? Any horror stories?
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Buying a new tablet
I'm in the market for a tablet, and have taken my sweet time for the last 3 months researching and looking for the best one to buy. I've done my fair share of research and now i'm asking you: Should I buy the ASUS Transformer Prime with the dock, od should i wait for samsung/htc/moto/lenovo/acer... next-gen tablet? My fear is you see, that I'll buy The Prime, and that it won't be supported by some software develeopers, and left out in the cold with some apps, or not on par with the next-gen 2012 tablets. I want the best hardware specs, possible future windows 8 compatibility, preferably tegra device, 3g isn't a must, nor GPS but preferred. I don't mind waiting for a few more months since this would be my first tablet, wich i don't really need. NO IOS/IPad talk please, android tablet only (but like i said, with a possibility of win8 in the future). Any reasonable advice is more than welcome, and thank you all very much in advance!

IIRC Asus Prime will begin getting ICS/4.0 Jan 12th.
With that said, I would definitely play around with one before buying. Numerous reported issues that can't really be fixed through OTA's or software. (GPS, WIFI, light bleed, glass/screen loose from rest of tab).
Typical Asus if you ask me, crapshoot on quality.
Also depends on what you want in a tab. If you don't really want to play around/mod/customize then I think the Ipad 2 or hold out a couple of months for an Ipad 3 would be your best bet.
If you have to have an Android you have one of two options. Wait for more quad core tabs to be released, or start looking at what's available now.
Samsung 7.0 Plus is probably the best out for 7"ers.
For the 10"ers it's a toss up right now. Galaxy Tab 10.1 has good support, decent performance, light, easy to hold, good screen, great speakers (for a tab). It's cons to me are the Tegra 2 isn't up to snuff with Honeycomb OS.
The HP Touchpad is a great buy for the OS and specs, and can also be ported to Android (Still need to play with one)
Asus Transformer TF101 is also a good buy but again a crapshoot on quality but can be had for a good price.
The new Moto Xyboards are getting good reviews but they are overpriced for what they are, are only sold through VZW and were "technically" outdated before they were even released. Also locked bootloaders are never fun if flashing kernels are your thing.
Right now I'm looking at getting another tab so I guess you could say I'm in the same boat as you. I have an OG Galaxy Tab 7 on the way b/c I got it cheaper than cheap and just wanna play with it.
Considering picking up an 8" Xyboard also.
ETA: I probably won't pick up a Xyboard however until they come down in price or a WiFi only version is offered.
The SGT 7.7 also sounds promising. Decisions decisions.

First of all, thank you for the fast and torough reply... And yes, sweet sweet decisions
I forgot to say that I'm in the market for a 10" minimum tablet, don't want smthng smaller 'cause i allready have an SGSII so I'm covered for mobility.
As for ASUS's build quality, like I said I never owned a tablet so I definately will try out/play with one for a couple of hours before purchasing, and watch out for the screen bleed on an ips display. But currently most of my pc's componens (2xmobo, 2xgraphic cards, and a lappy) are ASUS made and i must say i'm more than satisfied with them, and as I recall, when I was buying my SGSII there was talk about screen burn-in, overheating and wifi problems too, but I haven't had a single one with my device. Besides that, I don't really need GPS or 3g in a tablet so it's not a dealbreaker with me on The Prime.
The problem is: I wouldn't buy any other tablet now existing in the market, mostly because of the Tegra3 chipset The Prime has, so if I'm paying a hi-end device (around 700$) i want the latest and fastest performer in the ring. And yes, in my book that is android only, as i find apple's devices a bit limiting sometimes (without any fanboyism, I come from a long line of iphones before my android). The things I'm worried hardware-wise are: the amount and speed of Prime's RAM (1gb od ddr2), possible wifi signal problems, screen bleed, and that it's topheavy when docked (a minor thing really). I love that it has a full USB 2.0 port, so you don't need a jack/ adapter of some kind (e.g. like on a SGSII microUSB to full USB). Not really worried about the one speaker layout eather, altough i was a bit dissapointed since the TF101 had a stereo layout, but still, not a dealbreaker (hey, it's still a tablet)...
Now you may laugh at this seeing your sig, but in my mobile history (25+ phones) the worst were accually motorolas (v3 being the worst of the lot, but than again A925 was more than excellent) I'm not so fond of HP either, last month i sold my DV6 3020em, (that's the i7 touchscreen version for Europe since i'm european), and i can say it was utter rubbish, overheating, shoddy build quality, squeaky, noisy fans, you name it... That's why I sold it, but it had a touchscreen which was more than handy, and that's why i want a tablet, I just might look a bit more into the HP touchpad after all.
Acer is great quality for it's price, really great. But I only had Acer's laptops, and the Iconia tablet is as ugly as a bullfrog from chernobyl, so I wouldn't want one.
Tf101 is ugly too by my standards, too big as well, but the looks aren't so important if it was an excellent performer, which none of the now available androids are compared to The Prime (at least not on honeycomb).
I played with samsung 8.9 a few days ago and I can report is't a great little device, thin, capable, satisfying all in all, but i'd like a bigger screen, and a real keyboard and it's not a tegra device (I play a lot of games so i'd like the tegra zone, as chainfire's plugins don't support all tegra tweaked games)
Now I do like to install a new ROM every few weeks on my SGSII but i srsly don't think that will be the case on a tablet (except Win 8, when it comes out).
So i guess the question remains: should i wait for Samsung's next gen 10.1 answer or just go with the prime now
P.S. sorry for my poor english

cavkic said:
First of all, thank you for the fast and torough reply... And yes, sweet sweet decisions
I forgot to say that I'm in the market for a 10" minimum tablet, don't want smthng smaller 'cause i allready have an SGSII so I'm covered for mobility.
As for ASUS's build quality, like i said i never owned a tablet so I definately will try out/play with one for a couple of hours before purchasing, and watch out for the screen bleed on an ips display. But currently most of my pc's componens (2xmobo, 2xgraphic cards, and a lappy) are ASUS made and i must say i'm more than satisfied with them, and as I recall, when I was buying my SGSII there was talk about screen burn-in, overheating and wifi problems too, but I haven't had a single one with my device. Besides that, I don't really need GPS or 3g in a tablet so it's not a dealbreaker with me on The Prime.
The problem is: I wouldn't buy any other tablet now existing in the market, mostly because of the Tegra3 chipset The Prime has, so if I'm paying a hi-end device (around 700$) i want the latest and fastest performer in the ring. And yes, in my book that is android only, as i find apple's devices a bit limiting sometimes (without any fanboyism, I come from a long line of iphones before my android). The only thing I'm worried hardware-wise is the amount and speed of Prime's RAM (1gb od ddr2), possible wifi signal problems, screen bleed, and that it's topheavy when docked (a minor thing really). I love that it has a full USB 2.0 port, so you don't need a jack/ adapter of some kind (e.g. like on a SGSII microUSB to full USB). Not really worried about the one speaker layout eather, altough i was a bit dissapointed since the TF101 had a stereo layout, but still, not a dealbreaker (hey, it's still a tablet)...
So i guess the question remains: should i wait for Samsung's next gen 10.1 answer or just go with the prime now
P.S. sorry for my poor english
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Don't jump the gun on the Prime until stock has settled in, right now retailers are price gouging due to low availability. The Prime should be $500 for the 32GB, $600 for the 64GB, not $650-700 for the 32GB.
I have a Transformer and an Iconia Tab A100, and I can tell you from first hand experience that the build quality isn't nearly as bad as the above poster is making it out to be. I actually like the finish on both the original Transformer and the Iconia series a lot, and the Prime seems to be a winner also. Another thing to consider for both ASUS and Acer is that they keep their Android releases relatively 'vanilla' except for a few bloatware-type apps of their own, unlike Samsung and HTC, who just can't help themselves but smear TouchWiz and Sense over everything they produce.
The only real reported issue with the Prime appears to be the GPS accuracy, but at least to me, it's a non-issue, since I disable GPS and bluetooth on everything.
The Windows 8 bit is yet to be seen, porting a device to another OS is something you can hope, but never hold your breath for. We've yet to see how Windows 8 distribution is going to work and remember that even if you do install Windows 8 down the road, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to run all windows-based programs, since mobile devices use ARM CPUs, and everything written for windows right now is made for x86 CPUs, so it will be up to each third party to rewrite their programs for compatibility.
Although I would never write out a company with pockets as deep as microsoft, they have proven time and time again that they are unable to compete in the mobile segment, so I don't see Windows 8 with as much hope and awe as many others do. (Especially since Ice Cream Sandwich is the first Android iteration we can really call "excellent")
TL;DR - If you can find a Prime for a decent price, then it's an amazing device to be had for a very reasonable price. If you plan on waiting, then checking out the upcoming Iconia A700 isn't a bad idea either if the dock isn't that important to you.

littleemp said:
Don't jump the gun on the Prime until stock has settled in, right now retailers are price gouging due to low availability. The Prime should be $500 for the 32GB, $600 for the 64GB, not $650-700 for the 32GB.
I have a Transformer and an Iconia Tab A100, and I can tell you from first hand experience that the build quality isn't nearly as bad as the above poster is making it out to be. I actually like the finish on both the original Transformer and the Iconia series a lot, and the Prime seems to be a winner also. Another thing to consider for both ASUS and Acer is that they keep their Android releases relatively 'vanilla' except for a few bloatware-type apps of their own, unlike Samsung and HTC, who just can't help themselves but smear TouchWiz and Sense over everything they produce.
The only real reported issue with the Prime appears to be the GPS accuracy, but at least to me, it's a non-issue, since I disable GPS and bluetooth on everything.
The Windows 8 bit is yet to be seen, porting a device to another OS is something you can hope, but never hold your breath for. We've yet to see how Windows 8 distribution is going to work and remember that even if you do install Windows 8 down the road, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to run all windows-based programs, since mobile devices use ARM CPUs, and everything written for windows right now is made for x86 CPUs, so it will be up to each third party to rewrite their programs for compatibility.
Although I would never write out a company with pockets as deep as microsoft, they have proven time and time again that they are unable to compete in the mobile segment, so I don't see Windows 8 with as much hope and awe as many others do. (Especially since Ice Cream Sandwich is the first Android iteration we can really call "excellent")
TL;DR - If you can find a Prime for a decent price, then it's an amazing device to be had for a very reasonable price. If you plan on waiting, then checking out the upcoming Iconia A700 isn't a bad idea either if the dock isn't that important to you.
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Tnx for the reply, and I have to say I think you misunderstood me. I don't think I said anything bad about acer's or asus's build quality just HP's (and only the perticular model of the DV6 I had), just that they're a bit on the ugly side, but that's totally a subjective stand, and irrelevant to anybody else.
As far as Prime's price goes, it should be available in Croatia, about 2hrs drive from my home in 10days for less than 700$ with the dock for the 32gig version, which is not a bad pricetag considering where I live, and I'm ready to give that kind of money for it. The dock is accually something i like about the Transformer, and it would probbably be a dead heat between TF101 just because of the dock) and the Sammy 10.1 if it weren't for the prime.
GPS, like I said, I don't mind. The SGSII has a great GPS reciever which i hardly ever use, maybe 6 times since i got it in july.
As far as ARM windows goes, I know what to expect from it , nothing special, but it would be nice to have that option when it's available
So you are happy with the TF101 and the Iconia? But would you recommend buying now the Prime if I'm happy with the price? I should mention I probbably won't buy it before ICS, and I'll try to get a hold of a stock ICS one when it's out after Jan. 12. because I want to make sure i missed the first version shipment

I believe you about Motorola. Until my Droid X I have ALWAYS hated Motorola. I never had a phone that worked right after some wear and tear and always had problems. From before smartphones thru the Droid 1, 2, and 3. (Went through multiples of those). I'm also a Samsung and HTC fan.
I've never had a problem with Asus computer components myself, w/ that said, there are quite a few complaints when it comes to the TF201 on quality. With that said, you, as I'm sure you do, have to take into account the dissatisfied ones are always going to moan and groan much more and louder than the happy customer.
I guess I just wish it was like cars when it comes to Tablets and would love for them to let me take the exact tab I'm looking to buy for a test drive. (Not leave the store but just open the box and get a good look at it and test everything to make sure I'm getting what my hard earned money is paying for).
I really want a TF201, but I'm going to wait til a few more Tegra 3 tabs come out. I really think Motorola would have hit a homerun if they would have put a quad core in their Xyboards and kept the price what they're charging now.
The three tabs I'm really torn between right now are the Xyboard 8.2, TF201, and Samsung 7.0 Plus. But man we are so close to seeing quad core as the new standard for tabs so the other part of me just wants to sit it out and wait.

So true what you said about the sitting and waiting for the quad core as the new standard, but on the other hand, HOW BAD DO WE WANT ONE!?!
Personally for me it's no competition between the Prime and other tablets, the Prime is just on another planet.
This morning the store answered my email saying that the Prime will be available mid january (in about 10 days) and said that maybe they could reserve one for me because of the small supply, but said the price may be different depending on the usd/euro stocks, but under 700$ for the 32gig version with dock...
Still I'm not planning on buying one before a test drive like you said (mostly to check for screen bleed). And yes, I took into account the moaners which is true like you said again...
I think I wathched every single review/comparison of the tablet on youtube, and read at least 10 reviews online, and it's all mostly positive.
I'll update as soon as i get my hands on a test one, hopefully in about 10 days.

[Q] Xoom Migration

Is anyone migrating to the Xoom?
From what I can see, the Xoom has a better screen and Honeycomb. If the G tablet really gets HC is the Xoom really worth USD 200 more?
Thanks

Ivanthompson said:
Is anyone migrating to the Xoom?
From what I can see, the Xoom has a better screen and Honeycomb. If the G tablet really gets HC is the Xoom really worth USD 200 more?
Thanks
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Ivanthompson,
Only you can make that decision; if the G Tablet fulfills the requirements you had for an Android Tablet then there really is NO reason to jump to anything else. This tablet is an open platform that does everything the Xoom does (except for 3/4G). Having said that this always boils down to personal preference.
The G Tablet still does everything I need it to do; the devs will LEAP on HC once the real source is released have no fear there. Also with guys like it2steve doing his best to bring us accessories that are available and at a good price we really have all the things we need going forward.
If you are the type of person that hops to the next new shiny thing that comes out then between now and June you will be jumping like a jack rabbit!
Personally I am satisfied with what I have... I am staying....
Rick

As a developer, I really want a Xoom just so I can start developing with the Honeycomb API w/o relying upon the emulator, which is slow and painful to use.
The G-tablet does everything I need for my own personal use and I'm still blown away by the speed of the hardware 5 months after purchasing.
If I had Honeycomb on my G-Tablet I wouldn't even think twice about the Xoom (other than maybe the screen, but it's pretty rare the G-Tablet's screen bothers me).
Plus, I have a feeling they'll be giving away a Xoom to everyone at the Google I/O conference this year and I'm waiting to see if I was 1/10 people to win a free ticket via their Last Call for I/O Android contest which I completed last week. So if I do end up winning, I'll at least wait until after Google I/O to see if I get a free Xoom. But I'm hoping Honeycomb source will be released by then....

GTablet said:
Ivanthompson,
Only you can make that decision; if the G Tablet fulfills the requirements you had for an Android Tablet then there really is NO reason to jump to anything else. This tablet is an open platform that does everything the Xoom does (except for 3/4G). Having said that this always boils down to personal preference.
The G Tablet still does everything I need it to do; the devs will LEAP on HC once the real source is released have no fear there. Also with guys like it2steve doing his best to bring us accessories that are available and at a good price we really have all the things we need going forward.
If you are the type of person that hops to the next new shiny thing that comes out then between now and June you will be jumping like a jack rabbit!
Personally I am satisfied with what I have... I am staying....
Rick
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+1 here.
Very happy with Gtab. 1 tablet + 4 different roms to play with !

The GTAB is actually faster than the Xoom right now (I have both). HC actually needs a little bit of work, imo.
Eventually the GTAB will be the old horse to put out to pasture, but we're not quite at that point, yet. Xoom does have the better screen and camera, so points for that.

Thanks for your insights.
I'll probably wait for HC on the GT before trying something else.

teleknEsis said:
As a developer, I really want a Xoom just so I can start developing with the Honeycomb API w/o relying upon the emulator, which is slow and painful to use.
The G-tablet does everything I need for my own personal use and I'm still blown away by the speed of the hardware 5 months after purchasing.
If I had Honeycomb on my G-Tablet I wouldn't even think twice about the Xoom (other than maybe the screen, but it's pretty rare the G-Tablet's screen bothers me).
Plus, I have a feeling they'll be giving away a Xoom to everyone at the Google I/O conference this year and I'm waiting to see if I was 1/10 people to win a free ticket via their Last Call for I/O Android contest which I completed last week. So if I do end up winning, I'll at least wait until after Google I/O to see if I get a free Xoom. But I'm hoping Honeycomb source will be released by then....
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Checked it out today. The xoom screen has some poor quality viewing angles too. It is ok on a $379 tab but on a $799 ridiculous. Your choice, just thought I would mention, that the grass isn't greener--pun intended--from all viewing angles.
I personally plan to own several tabs in all sizes and flavors. Hey, why not? For me it makes good business sense to cross pollenate. Holding the xoom didn't feel as good as holding GTab. Verizon's logo permanently etched on the top right-hand side was distracting as well as tacky. They should have put on one of those peel off stickers like they do on laptops telling you intel or whatever is inside. Go for it, if it works for you. I went in for a 2nd tab today and came out empty handed. Oh well, the playbook will be released on April 19, they are taking prelim orders now at Best Buy.
I won't be buying it until I put my hands on it and drive it first. Oh yeah, the xoom had quite a few force closes while I was playing with it to my surprise.
Has anybody seen the Creative Ziio up-close? Some of the specs are mediocre and some good like the audio capability its boosting if it works. Also, it's a 7 inch coming in around $279.

roebeet said:
The GTAB is actually faster than the Xoom right now (I have both). HC actually needs a little bit of work, imo.
Eventually the GTAB will be the old horse to put out to pasture, but we're not quite at that point, yet. Xoom does have the better screen and camera, so points for that.
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You mean better camera. The screen has some viewing angle issues too. I went in to buy today and left out empty handed. $799 for a camera and operating system doesn't make good business sense to me. Glad you like it. Are you having the FC issues? Happened to me a few times while I was playing with it.

With the announcement of the new Galaxy Tab and it's lower price, the Xoom doesn't look all that appealing anymore. I love my G, but will seriously consider a switch in June to the Samsung due mostly to thickness, available accessories and HC.

Ivanthompson said:
Thanks for your insights.
I'll probably wait for HC on the GT before trying something else.
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+1 wait for HC on the GT

Love my gtab got it for 279 a month or so ago from Sears outlet.com and picked it up an hour away from home. Xoom is overpriced for a little bit more screen Res and honeycomb. Screen is not as bad as many say on gtab if tablet is used as tablet. If wanna CPU use a CPU. Not to mention don't need data plan. not to mention someone will get honeycomb on it soon enough.Use home wifi and 3g hotspot hack with data throttle hack on my DX. Ha Verizon up your big red [email protected] Best bang for your Buck as far as tabs go as of today.

If you use wifi and dont need 3g I don´t see why to switch and pay a lot more for the xoom. Same processor, in benchmarks practically the same, just for a better screen and camera plus honeycomb that will be around us very soon I don´t think its worth it imo

Other than to be a "hey look what i have" kinda person i really don't see much point in going to a different tab. I'm happy with my tab. Lets face it...other than surfing the web and playing with some apps these tabs are limited. So why would i want to go spend $600 on one...i can get a smokin laptop for that kinda money.

Reports have shown that the xoom sales have been underwhelming.

I could buy a Xoom if I wanted to, not the issue.
But the Gtab does so much more than the other Tablets, and price is not the issue.
I use my Gtab everyday and it's rock steady.
Yes, I wish I could connect to a Cisco VPN (anytime connect), but not sure if the Xoom would even support that.
I played around with the Xoom for awhile and it was heavy and didn't blow my socks off.
Screen definately better...
Until there is a stable Andriod Tab that clearly blows the Gatb away. I'm staying with it...
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I got mine about a month ago rooted it instantly settled on vegan. Checked the xoom out yesterday i was not impressed glad it got the gt. Great battery life. Now if it was thin like ipad2, oops can i say that word here? Im sticking with my gt.

Ivanthompson said:
Is anyone migrating to the Xoom?
From what I can see, the Xoom has a better screen and Honeycomb. If the G tablet really gets HC is the Xoom really worth USD 200 more?
Thanks
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I'm not, but the gtab does for me. Even at close to $500, I'd still have to say Notion Ink Adam with PixelQi is a better value, but at this point I'll be holding out for Tegra3 kal-el and/or whatever the other SoC makers can do with cortex-a9.
I'll still want a PixelQi screen or mirasol as I'd REALLY like to be able to use them outside on sunny days and still have good battery runtime.

I'm guessing the xoom people are laughing at us now for getting something that's less than 800 they paid for theirs. Have you guys been to the xoom forum? They seem like a proud bunch over there. Yeah, proud to pay $800 for something that will be out of date 5 months from now.

I do not see a reason to upgrade to a new tablet anytime soon from the G-tab. Need to wait until a tegra 3 or 4 is out to make a decent enough reason for me to switch.

I've had the GTab since December and think it's an awesome tablet for the money given all of the great dev work going on.
However, after playing with the Xoom at Best Buy the other day, there's simply no comparison to the Xoom's screen and viewing angles. It's not that I care about others being able to see the GTab's screen, but I find it annoying that to watch a video I need to keep the GTab's screen just right, even in landscape, to keep the colors from washing out. And that's just for one person watching! And forget about portrait mode or watching with the tablet lying flat on a table.
The Xoom can do all of these things no problem. No washout, totally viewable from all angles and horizontally on the table. Seemed almost on par with the iPad. Also, while I didn't play with it long enough to make an informed opinion on Honeycomb, I thought the Xoom was plenty responsive, regardless of Quadrant scores. Maybe only slightly less so than the GTab with Vegan.
Whether the Xoom worth the extra money (to me, at least), I'm not so sure. But the WiFi version is in the right ballpark and is awfully tempting...

Gtab Vs. Transformer

Hey all, I have had the Gtab now for about two weeks and have been loving it. Running CM7 nightlies it has been smooth and crash free.
That being said I have been eyeing the Transformer. I am kind of a freak when it comes to having the latest and greatest when it comes to smart phones and when I got into the tablet market I wasnt sure if I would really use it much over my android phone.
Well after two weeks I can say I am hooked on tablets now and love having one. The only thing I am not liking about the Gtab is the weight is a little on the heavy side, it is pretty thick and the screen isnt that great but really doesnt bother me that much.
But being one who likes to get the latest and greatest the transformer is looking nice to me.
I am just curious if any of you transformer/Gtab owners have any opinions on if it is that great of an upgrade to warrant it?
I have read over at the Transformer section and it seems like it has its share of issues from poor construction to rom issues. And it being so new there isnt much on the dev side.
Amazingly my local best buy has them in stock but before I jump ship I was just hoping to get a few opinions.
Thanks!
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One word - Netflix.

If you want the latest hardware/software and you want it to be the thinest and lightest I would tell you to hold out a few weeks for the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 which is lighter/thinner/faster than the new iPad 2.

If you do decide to go for a newer tab, be sure you're ready to dump that one in the fall when the Tegra 3 (Kal-El) tablets start rolling out. It will be a quantum leap forward (5 times the capacity of Tegra 2).

Have Both - Mini Review
GTab - Owned Since October of '10.
Ran custom since pretty much day 2. Started with TNT-Lite, then Vegan, tried CM7 (didn't like the phone feel), running VegaN Ginger RC-1. Love pretty much everything about the tab except for the screen, and lack of backward facing camera. The Screen also has its uses, as in public places, it has built in privacy.
I have crawled through every nook and cranny of the OS, as it is wide open, a hacker's dream. The negatives are the lack of custom accessories. My case is a Solo zippered folio, which works however adds bulk, The dock never officially got sold in the US, and Viewsonic / Tap N Tap not going to include Nvidia, or Malata has pretty much disowned us owners as there is no ginger hardware acceleration (Yet).
I cant wait for a stable Honeycomb port to bring it to the next gen.
Transformer - A1 - 1.5 weeks old
Have not rooted yet, as updates from Asus are still frequent, and root for the last update is not quite there.
Pros: Gorgeous screen, Honeycomb though not polished feels better than ginger, or froyo on the tablet format. built in GPS - location works better than wifi only on the Gtab.
Cons: Lots of apps do not scale, and have not extracted spare parts from the sdk yet. Google Voice app not available in honeycomb, honeycomb does not have SMS capability , No easy USB access, you either need a gender changer, or the dock.
I am happy, however not ecstatic.
I will be keeping both, as the Gtab will probably get handed down, but lets just say currently the A1 is a inside the park homerun as opposed to a Bomb over the green monster. and the Gtab was a legged out triple, or a standup double.

There is a Google Voice app available for Honeycomb, unofficially modified to work -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11955195&postcount=75 -- I use it daily for texting
I owned a gTab for a few weeks, and now own a TF. The gTab's advantages are a lower price and a USB port, and that's pretty much it (ok, it's probably better for tinkering too). Not knocking the gTab, it's a solid device for the price, but if you're willing to spend an extra $100 or so, you'll be happier with the TF if you're serious about owning a Honeycomb tablet.
However, if you're happy with the gTab and can live with its screen, Honeycomb doesn't have a whole lot to offer right now over 2.3, aside from some apps that are tablet-optimized using HC APIs. You'd probably be better off waiting for another point release from Google, and the inevitable price reductions, or enhancements added at the current price points.

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There is a Google Voice app available for Honeycomb, unofficially modified to work -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11955195&postcount=75 -- I use it daily for texting
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Thanks for the link. Installed OK testing it now.

Thanks for all the tips and input. I think I will hold onto the Gtab until later in the summer. The Galaxy looks tight but after owning a Samsung android phone I swore I would never buy a Samsung product again. Will run this Gtab out until something in a descent price point and awesome features roll out.
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Technology is always built to be disposable. I always keep that in mind & realize that if one can get past the "need to have" factor, then waiting, no matter how painfully it weighs on ones psyche, is not such a bad thing. I know people who feel that they must have the "latest & greatest", only to find out that they don't. Meanwhile they're spending cash like it grows on trees. Just my thoughts.

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Technology is always built to be disposable. I always keep that in mind & realize that if one can get past the "need to have" factor, then waiting, no matter how painfully it weighs on ones psyche, is not such a bad thing. I know people who feel that they must have the "latest & greatest", only to find out that they don't. Meanwhile they're spending cash like it grows on trees. Just my thoughts.
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Not quite true in this case. There is a real difference in the OS. 2.2, or 2.3.4 (unofficial) are really phone OS's even CM7 feels like a phone interface even after Mad Murdock's tablet tweaks. 3.0 has a tablet feel, and better multitasking. That said different strokes for different folks.

If you can afford it then I suggest going with the transformer.
Transformer is definitely a better polished product. You can tell that they put a lot of work into designing it. Also, Asus is wonderful in their support of the device. Viewsonic just sucks in this department.
I'm keeping my gtab because it is a lot more hackable than the transformer. However, the transformer does look and feel better.

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If you want the latest hardware/software and you want it to be the thinest and lightest I would tell you to hold out a few weeks for the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 which is lighter/thinner/faster than the new iPad 2.
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Or just wait a few more weeks for something better than that. Or wait a few more weeks after that for something even better. Or better yet wait till the fall for tegra 3 tablets.
If you want the latest and greatest, you will just end up not buying anything at all. What's the latest and greatest today will be out-dated by tomorrow.
This is why I tend to buy things slightly outdated for the cheaper prices. They work just as well.

Exactly, that's what I mentioned in my last post. Technology is meant to be disposable. There is always that "latest & greatest" moniker that hangs around & if one waits a bit before jumping onto that wagon, they can get that item at a better price. The other benefit is giving it time to have all the kinks worked out as well as having hand at any mods & tweaks.

I bought my GTab after researching here knowing that there would be better tabs over the Spring and Summer. However I also knew that these would all essentially be the initial tablet launches for the vendors and Android OS for tablets.
So I decided to get a solid yet cheap GTab because of how extensible the guys here at XDA have made it. I felt that if I waited until the late fall and winter season the true next gen of tablets would come out. I know at that point there will be the "next" thing on the horizon, but I feel it will be a good time to jump in completely with the higher end tablets.
I am extremely happy with the GTab despite the screen. My kids will get an excellent hand me down for watching movies and playing games on trips when I get my next tablet.

Yeah, going to hold on to the gtab and use the saved money to buy beer and bbq lol.
Been running cm7 but now trying to talk myself into bottle of smoke...
Just dont want to go through the headache of upgrading to bos to find myself going through the pain of heading back.
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18.4009 said:
Yeah, going to hold on to the gtab and use the saved money to buy beer and bbq lol.
Been running cm7 but now trying to talk myself into bottle of smoke...
Just dont want to go through the headache of upgrading to bos to find myself going through the pain of heading back.
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I waited past Christmas to get a tablet and it was painful. Checked every day for something to come out. Finally stumbled across g tab and pulled the trigger in February. Have not looked back or forward. You will never have the latest or greatest technology changes every 6 months point and case, those who bought the first galaxy tab now have an outdated item. The price drop astounding.
G tab beats the rest in price and useabilty, without regular inputs tabs are useless by any maker. I'm not going through a cloud or service to have full access to my own files. Anyway the single thing that satisfies me after that is hack ability. Every time I flash a new rom have a new tab therefore I have a device that never loses my attention satisfying the need for me to go out and purchase something else for now. When I get bored with G tab I simply flash another rom. I like the new rom flavor of the month club. More than likely i would be quickly bored with another tab. The next path for tablets won't be just for consumption already been announced. I 'm there already.

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If you do decide to go for a newer tab, be sure you're ready to dump that one in the fall when the Tegra 3 (Kal-El) tablets start rolling out. It will be a quantum leap forward (5 times the capacity of Tegra 2).
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I agree with this guy. I understand the "if you always wait you'll never end up buying anything" argument. But I only believe that when you don't know for sure what is coming down the road. We know for sure that the Tegra3 is coming this year and it's going to be awesome. I think we know enough about it to wait for it. Unlike the people who are waiting for the iPhone5 because nobody knows when that's coming or what upgrades its going to have.

Gtab is my first android tablet. At first I thought I'll be using the tablet mostly for games and videos. Now I found out there are plenty of games that are simply wouldn't work on tablet (either crash or the screen is very tiny).
I'd wait until most apps are mature enough on tablet before upgrading.
If you upgrade now what you'd get is only a better screen and a slightly better build quality. Performance wise I think GTab is perfectly fine (and honeycomb is coming to Gtab as well).

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G tab beats the rest in price and useabilty, without regular inputs tabs are useless by any maker.
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I never used the USB port on my gTab, so I wouldn't say any tablet without it is useless. If I need a file off my networked drives, I can easily do it via a file manager, so the lack of a USB port isn't really a dealbreaker for me, and probably also not for most tablet customers (judging by the fact that the TF sells out immediately after it's in stock anywhere confirms that).
The gTab was the best value tablet until the TF was released. But now I can't really recommend someone buy one for any more than $250, but I would say hold on to the one you have if it's working for you.
Edit: Just saw that the new Toshiba tablet is due out next month, HDMI + USB + removable battery for $429. Only has 8GB built-in though, but it also has a full-sized SD slot, so bumping that up will be cheaper than microSD.

18.4009 said:
Yeah, going to hold on to the gtab and use the saved money to buy beer and bbq lol.
Been running cm7 but now trying to talk myself into bottle of smoke...
Just dont want to go through the headache of upgrading to bos to find myself going through the pain of heading back.
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You may want to hold off on BOS until the notion ink devs get their hands on that new HC update that is supposedly coming down the pipe soon. Roebeet has put BOS on hold until something pops over at notion and he gets some decent stuff to work with for the Gtab.
I went from CM7 to BOS a couple of weeks ago. Took me all of one day to figure out I wanted my CM7 back on my Gtab but that was a no go because of the new v1.2 bootloader. I just went ahead and installed Roebeets Brilliant Corners for full functionality until BOS is mature enough for everyday use.
Stick with CM7 if you like what it offers, at least until BOS is fully functional. I just received my Asus Transformer earlier this week and I do realize what HC has to offer. I love it and I do want it on my Gtab as well, but will have to wait a bit during the bug squashing phase of things.

[Q] Is it worth it?

hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap? it's off brand for things i buy usually, but I've seen generally good reviews. I've also been looking at the Transformer and the Xoom. Thank you all for the help.

considering that you can get one on Ebay for under $250, I would say yes, it's most definitely worth it.
Even with Froyo roms, it's a very useful tablet that will probably do the things that you want it to do. Yes, the screen angles are not ideal, but they are acceptable (in my opinion)
Put it this way, is buying a transformer, or Xoom for almost twice as much going to be just as useless when the newest tablets come out for Christmas?
I believe that it's a question of perception. What do you want to use it for?
and who knows, when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released, it may be easier to port to the G-Tablet than Honeycomb.

Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk

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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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Wow. Very excellent explanation. I see now. Yes I will probably soon be purchasing the g tab!
PS: screw the ipad
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this).
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Honeycomb is not completely functional on the gtab (as of now). It is missing the Honeycomb specific drivers from Nvidia (aka full hardware acceleration, high def video).
If you really care about Honeycomb you should get the transformer IMO.
Although, I am quite happy with froyo based ROMs
Others are right in saying that quad core Tegra 3s are around the corner, Tegra 2 prices might drop by the end of the year. Given how Nvidia and Viewsonic acted regarding the gtab, I foresee support for Tegra 2s dropping drastically as newer hardware gets released.

Yeah the almost fully functioning honeycomb on here is fine for me. Should be ordering my g tab this week!
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Hello, I wrote a quick review for some guys that I work with. I am sure there are many reviews of the gtablet, but...
Here are my conclusions so far;
This thing is about the same size as the Xoom, and thicker than the IPAD. It is definitely not as sexy.
The screen is OK. It is not a high quality screen like you find on the other devices.
The processor is great, and the memory is sufficient. Things move pretty quick.
The ROM out of the box REALLY sucked. I was hoping to just deal with it, but Google had not approved the tablet so there were NO Google apps at all. Not acceptable. It took me a couple of hours to learn (last night till around 1:00am), but I replaced the stock ROM with a hacked ROM with everything I wanted.
This thing is really just a big Android phone with no phone or GPS.
I loaded up my Sony Reader software, downloaded all of my books, and then imported them into a DRM capable reader that is better.
Although there are some ROMs that support Gingerbread screens, I think I will stick with this 2.2 (or is it 2.3) Android feel.
What will I use it for?
Reading ebooks, PDFs (Scientific American, Maximum PC)
Google apps – maps, search
Kayak, hotels.com apps
Games (mostly for the kids) – I got Android Market to work
Web Browsing / some forum reading (via Tapatalk)
Personal email reading and contacts (no work email will be set up)
Maybe occasional Skype and Gotomeeting (camera sucks, so mostly audio)
News and weather
Of course, with the exception of reading the ebooks, I would always use the Macbook Pro if it were available.
So the speed and memory makes this all possible, but the experience (screen, size, build) is not equivalent to the expensive tablets.
Biggest complaints?
No GPS
Screen is not easy to see at an angle
I needed to root the thing to make it useful, which means I now need to stay on top of that and update it manually
The 10.1 device is a bit bigger / bulkier than I expected – the weight is the same as the ipad I believe.
I “can” watch videos on it (even 1080p), but moving the files would be a drag… it uses a microSD card that I would need to pop ion an adapter, or I could use the USB connection. Maybe I can find a way to do it with wifi or Bluetooth.
No USB charging… WTF??? It comes with a separate adapter that has to plug into the wall…
The screen is a 1024x600 which is similar to most pads, but it is really inferior to the Macbook Pro, and there is just something that is “fuzzy” about it.
Biggest positives?
Cheap - $269 delivered (no tax or shipping)
Fast
Should do what I want…
Next Steps…
See how much I actually use it for anything other than ebooks. If I do end up needing it more than I think, I would consider the Asus Transformer or something else new in the next year or so.
Hope this helps,
R

gobluewolverines4 said:
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap?
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The screen is complete crap.
You should look hard for something with a better screen around $300-$350. If you can find it, get it.
And I *like* my Gtab - but its really just for kicking around and messing with roms and android. The screen really is killer bad unless you use it only at night, head on
Honeycomb works, and works well, as well as you could hope for unsupported xda rom hacking - ie, no netflix, no Hardware acceleration, occasional stand on your head workarounds, and the possibility of sudden death... well, ok, not that last one.
Bottom line: if you can find it for $100-$200, and want to play with roms, and tweak, and screw with it a lot to get it to be as good as a $400 one except for the horrible screen that cannot be fixed, YES, this is your tablet.
If you want a tablet to take out of the box and use, with rom updates from the manufacturer, and a screen you can read ebooks off of, this is NOT your tablet. Even for free.

So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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For $400, I'd say yeah.
Better screen, 1Kx800 resolution, 2x the ram. Yeah, looks like that's all worth $120.
Oh... and a GPS too.
Oh, and Honeycomb 3.1 from Asus. Plus lots of XDA love it seems.

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So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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I think the main question is what you want the tablet for or what to do with it.
A cheap $250-300 laptop has so much more computing power and practical use than any tablet...just a bit bulkier.
The tablet market will have much more offerings and better with faster cpus and such..just have to wait a bit.
I bought my gtab from woot 4/2011 for $275. I have installed several ROMs on it. They all are pretty good with their own pluses and minuses.
I'm currently on Flashback 5.4 HC: it looks nice and works well. Gmail, Talk - w/o video; G-Voice, Maps, Lattitude, Earth etc all work. You Tube works; a bunch of games works. The big screen is better than the phone size screen. Nice quick weather apps. Nice calendar.
What it cannot do is replace the screen and functionality of my desktop for real work.
If you can find a cheap Gtab and play with ROM's, flashing, androids quirks etc - jsut for the fun of it, then get a gtab. Fully flashable with great recovery process. Almost 99.99% Non-brickable. Get a used one for play and test.
If you want a decent a functional tablet w/o hassle, get an I-pad2.

I have read many complaints about the viewing angle of the screen, but I have had my tablet for months and I have no complaints. It has replaced my planner for work and is great for watching movies, not sharing with my neighbor.

Which Android tablet for me?

Looking at all of the Android tablets out there I just wonder what I would really want. I have a Windows desktop, laptop, and Android phone. All of which I use alot. Right now a tablet would just be a toy. Any thoughts?
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Good thing I searched before posting this exact same question. So what are the thoughts on the tablets that are out or soon to be released? What is or what will be the hottest tablet of the year?

If it's just a toy, go for something on the cheap end.
Amazon Kindle Fire could be a good choice, but it doesn't offer expandable memory and some other features.
I got myself a Barnes and Noble Nook Color for $150...I wasn't gonna let myself spend much on it, because like yourself, it was just a toy for me. I got a 16 GB uSD card and put CM7 on there and it works great.

I tried Galaxy Tab 10.1 on monday and it let me somehow desperated. It's not that quick and smooth as I expected. Could be faulty it was test model at shop and anyone touch it and make changes in settings, installing apps and so one?

If a toy, go cheap... I started with the nook color. I now have the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1, and I love it. Awesome.
As for responsive, well the first batch was a little laggy. Even in benchmarks they would get around 1500. I know since I tested a store model. The most recent are much better and get over 2000 in the same benchmark. Just look for the Samsung logo on the front glass. And older version, just get task650 In Paris rom. And if you want, you can over clock from 1000 to 1400, but I haven't had to.

My wife wants the Zoom and wow has the price came down on that!
I've been looking at cheap tablets (gtablet, Viewbook, Ideapad, Nook Color, and many more. I just wonder if my toy will not become more. My dear wife would not mind if I got a Xoom for both of us. Even checked out some of the higher priced tablets. I played with the gtablet, transformer, and the thrive at Office Depot.
I,d love the thrive but the charger seems a little much. The transformer was cool and I do have a little laptop called the Asus 900HA that has served me faithfully for three years now. I don't like the idea of non-user battery replacement as I tend to keep my gadgets longer now. Thanks all!
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I think I have narrowed it down to the Zoom or Thrive. I like so much about the Thrive that I can live with the power brick. Even read some about the Zoom Family at Best Buy.
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I am curious to see how the Fire will work out.. I am sure it will be hacked and rooted and what not soon after it comes out.. Could be a good cheap tablet. I wish the screen was just a little bit bigger though.

My wife wants one...
I posted this in another thread, but it was much longer and worry nobody will see it so I will post it here too:
My wife has a 3 or 4 year old laptop and probably hasn't been turned on in months because "its too much of a hassle" to use it. She used to like playing Flash games all the time on the laptop but since we got iPhone 4's a little over a year ago she has just used her iPhone 4 for almost all of her internet needs.
Recently she has expressed interest in getting a tablet for Christmas because it is less cumbersome than a laptop but also significantly easier to read than the small screen on the iPhone 4.
We first looked at the iPad 2 but she really wants to be able to watch Flash videos and more importantly, play Flash games.
What is the best tablet under $600 that fits the bill for this? Also, what is the cheapest tablet that will suit our needs? Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give.

Tablets on Honeycomb is rubbish IMHO.
I think Google rushed out Honeycomb just to get a share of the huge tablet market. From a business perspective, don't blame them and good on ya, Google! From a customer perspective, it's absolutely **** to be stuck with Honeycomb!
If you don't want an Ipad 2 right now (or not interested in Apple's products at all), then I would wait for Google next mobile OS - dubbed Ice Cream Sandwich - to hit the scene. We'll see, then, how Google OS will really compete with Apple's...

Thinking about doing the same
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If it's just a toy, go for something on the cheap end.
Amazon Kindle Fire could be a good choice, but it doesn't offer expandable memory and some other features.
I got myself a Barnes and Noble Nook Color for $150...I wasn't gonna let myself spend much on it, because like yourself, it was just a toy for me. I got a 16 GB uSD card and put CM7 on there and it works great.
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I can get a refurbished Nook Color from B&N for $140, then spend $20 on an SD card and I am good to go! Thinking hard about doing this. Does anyone know if they keep those in stock or if the price will go up or they will run out if I wait? I would like to wait until closer to Christmas and maybe get one for each of us!