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Hello all.
I am new here and posted in the General folder because it wouldn't let me post in the android folder. My phone started doing this 2 months ago. Originally it started when I downloaded an app and then I got a window pop up and said 'Package file is invalid'. Now I am on my 3rd Triumph (returned for other issues) and the problem is still around. It seems like the problem follows my gmail account around. I only get this error with some of the apps. I need to know how to remedy this issue. I have read the other thread about this problem here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674725
and it lost me after the fourth post.
Phone info:
My Triumph is fresh out of the box ( just got another one yesterday, 10/1).
Dont know what ROM I am using.
Not rooted ( and dont want to void any warranties)
If you need other info, just let me know.
Most of the things mentioned in that post regard a modified rom, which you probably don't have (in other words, "my phone is stock"). The biggest question is whether you have tried restarting your phone lately.
The second biggest question? Where are you installing your apps from? If from the market, here are my troubleshooting recommendations. If not, correct me here or feel free to PM me.
Market acts goofy on the Triumph, and for that I blame Android. Try going into Settings> Applications> Manage and go to Market (usually under Running apps). Clear cache and force close, then see if the problem continues. Second time around, clear cache and clear data and force close, and try again. If problems still persist, uninstall all your updates and then see what your phone does.
I rather like the old Market because it didn't have that overpriced junk in it. Either way that refresh might be necessary.
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I have not restarted the phone lately mainly because I just got a new one yesterday.
I use only the market to download apps.
I did all the things you said in the order you said them and I am now running the old market but it still doesn't let me download certain apps. With the old market the pop-up window doesn't say 'package file is invalid' it now says 'Download was unsuccessful, please try...' and I cant see the whole error message.
I haven't been using the Market long enough to know the one. I am new to the android game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674725
There is that way, but you will be breaking your warranty, since you need CWM and neeed to be rooted
Other Ways:
Go to settings, then applications, then go to market, uninstall updates(if you have)
or
Get titanium Backup(if you can), uninstall market, pull the Vending apk from http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=320287&d=1272913729 inside /system/apps, put on SD Card, and install it.
If titanium backup wont(MAYBE NOT FULLY SURE) let you uninstall, then you need to be rooted.
Absolute Last Option that probably won't do much good is, factory reset.
Titanium Backup requires root anyway. Becoming rooted isn't hard, as long as you can download and run the app Gingerbreak 1.2. It isn't on the market, of course.
Although still, I find it strange you cannot just open certain apps. Are there any specific ones that do or don't work?
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Yeah! If you use Gingerbreak V1.2, you can root, then unroot when you are done, they will never see it was rooted. ANYWAYS, they never check if your rooted when you return or exchange a smartphone, not even Virgin Mobile checks....
austrie said:
Yeah! If you use Gingerbreak V1.2, you can root, then unroot when you are done, they will never see it was rooted. ANYWAYS, they never check if your rooted when you return or exchange a smartphone, not even Virgin Mobile checks....
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I got into crap with Best Buy because they checked, actually So yes, I would recommend getting rid of as many traces as possible... but yes, Gingerbreak is the meanest and cleanest method available on any of the three VM Android phones. At least, as of now.
They check WTH!?!?! What did they check for/what did you change?
I highly doubt that they dont check to see if someone did something to their phone that would void the warranty. Nevertheless I would like to not root the phone at least until I am sure I am keeping this one.
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They check WTH!?!?! What did they check for/what did you change?
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The convo went something like...
"Your last phone was rooted. We can't get money for rooted phones."
"Um, I can un-root it then."
"No, we already accepted it."
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Hello,
I have a question about how the "superuser"-app works behind the scenes.
As far as i know: The "superuser"-app can be used to grant root-permissions only to the programs, that I want. All other programs are still not running in root. Is this right?
If I'm right on that... Why does only the app super-user does have root after rooting the phone via e.g. the zergrush-exploit and other apps still not have root permissions although the phone has been rooted? Isn't there a security gap ?
In my point of view it could be possible, that any other app could take the root-rights just like the app "superuser" does it. If I'm not right, I don't get it, why only "superuser" gets root and all other apps can't get root unless "superuser" gives them root...
Isn't it a security gap? I just don't get it... how is this achieved?
Is it absolutely (or nearly absolutely) safe, that no other programs can get root-permissions when I use "superuser"? As I already said before, I'm really curious about, why or how this can be achieved and "guaranteed"...
Thanks in very much advance.
Kind regards
mr. salt
I think it's barely possible, that I'm the only one who is interessted how this app is working or wondering about the same security issues, which come along with my questions above?
I would appreciate an sophisticated answer very much!
greetings
mr. salt
sea_salt said:
Hello,
I have a question about how the "superuser"-app works behind the scenes.
As far as i know: The "superuser"-app can be used to grant root-permissions only to the programs, that I want. All other programs are still not running in root. Is this right?
If I'm right on that... Why does only the app super-user does have root after rooting the phone via e.g. the zergrush-exploit and other apps still not have root permissions although the phone has been rooted? Isn't there a security gap ?
In my point of view it could be possible, that any other app could take the root-rights just like the app "superuser" does it. If I'm not right, I don't get it, why only "superuser" gets root and all other apps can't get root unless "superuser" gives them root...
Isn't it a security gap? I just don't get it... how is this achieved?
Is it absolutely (or nearly absolutely) safe, that no other programs can get root-permissions when I use "superuser"? As I already said before, I'm really curious about, why or how this can be achieved and "guaranteed"...
Thanks in very much advance.
Kind regards
mr. salt
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Ok let me see if I can explain this the best way I can. When you root your phone you are giving yourself the ability to run apps that require root. This ability is turned off by default in android. Now lets compare this to Linux, when you run an app as root you have t run the sudo command and then enter your password each and every time you want to run it with rooted rights. SuperUser is an app that when prompted will remember the selection you choice so you dont have to allow it every time you run the app and with out opening a terminal to type the commands to allow it to run as root.
You are looking at the app of super user more as a stand alone app instead of being a front end UI for the commands that you would have to run to get the same out come.
As for the security, to be honest the best security is common sense. As it is a simple fact that PC, phone, internet, server ect security is only as good as the hacker trying to get into it. If he/she really wants your info they are gonna get it. Take a look at what happened to the US DOD and they have a far more secure setup then anything on the market.
OK... I know I have been full of questions and really I just posted another question in the general forum a moment ago but I am trying to stick to the specific forums for specific questions so don't get mad at me ._.
ANYWAY... Looking at the underlying processes and other apps I will never use how does one safely remove these? I have heard of "freezing" things so you can defrost them later just in case you decide otherwise.
Any thoughts? Would this require a root?
Zadeis said:
OK... I know I have been full of questions and really I just posted another question in the general forum a moment ago but I am trying to stick to the specific forums for specific questions so don't get mad at me ._.
ANYWAY... Looking at the underlying processes and other apps I will never use how does one safely remove these? I have heard of "freezing" things so you can defrost them later just in case you decide otherwise.
Any thoughts? Would this require a root?
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You'll need to be rooted and Titanium Backup Pro will allow you to freeze apps.
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You'll need to be rooted and Titanium Backup Pro will allow you to freeze apps.
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Ah thank you. Now in terms of doing that isn't there a list somewhere that lists all the "safe" apps to freeze? I have found lists pertaining to other tablets but not specifically the Tab 7 plus yet. Unless I'm just blind and it's been right in front of me (which is very likely) xD
I have not seen such a list but I haven't looked for one either.
Ah OK. I think I had found one for the Galaxy Tab (which I am assuming is the 10.1) and another one (which I forget what it was) so I figured I would ask.
Thank you all for your input though!
what bloatware are in your gtab?
Well, I'm getting ready to go somewhere so I can't look but all share comes to mind since I will never use it. That and for some reason after rooting my Tab (did it last night and I am quite happy) the samsung screen saver thing came back! Even though I uninstalled it.
The thing is about 50 megabytes of showcase video of the very tablet I am using...
Zadeis said:
Well, I'm getting ready to go somewhere so I can't look but all share comes to mind since I will never use it. That and for some reason after rooting my Tab (did it last night and I am quite happy) the samsung screen saver thing came back! Even though I uninstalled it.
The thing is about 50 megabytes of showcase video of the very tablet I am using...
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If for any reason you boot into recovery there is a "hidden" partition that will re-install all that crap. If you install garyd9's CWM recovery it will not do this.
I have uninstalled almost 50 programs on my gtab that I dont use. Its stripped down to a bare tab. I HATE unwanted un needed programs.
antiochasylum said:
I have uninstalled almost 50 programs on my gtab that I dont use.
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50? Can you list these apps?
I cleaned (froze with TB to be exact) and it's not even close to 10, but I am overly cautious so not to break the Tab. For example, I froze Polaris Office, AP Plus widget, etc.
Yes I will. Ill compare it tomorrow and post what I removed about to go to bed for now.
Sent from my ICS'd themed Galaxy Tab 7+
Is it OK to freeze these apps with Titanium Backup:
1). Apps
- Media Hub
- My files
- Samsung Apps
- Social Hub
- Talkback
- SNS related apps:
- Disclaimer
- Facebook
- Twitter
- LinkedIn
2). Built-in widgets, such as:
- AccuWeather.com (widget)
- AP Mobile (widget)
- Buddies now (widget)
- Digital Clock (widget)
- Dual Clock (widget)
- Yahoo! Finance
3). Built-in wallpapers (live or static)
- Aurora 2 (wallpaper
- Blue sea (wallpaper)
You can easily remove all apps that you don't need. You just need rooted device and root explorer or something similar. Then go to system/app and remove app you want.
gregy74 said:
You can easily remove all apps that you don't need. You just need rooted device and root explorer or something similar. Then go to system/app and remove app you want.
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that didt work for me... im getting root error issues...
str8addicted said:
that didt work for me... im getting root error issues...
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I got an error too when I intially tried to use Root Explorer, i opened up superuser (didnt actually do anything accept check the settings), then tried again, and access was granted properly. I already had the latest binaries via busybox so I'm not sure what happened.
jblade1000 said:
I got an error too when I intially tried to use Root Explorer, i opened up superuser (didnt actually do anything accept check the settings), then tried again, and access was granted properly. I already had the latest binaries via busybox so I'm not sure what happened.
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I think this is an issue with SuperUser itself.
The problem is, I cannot set the Automatic Response to "Prompt". If I do use that, then ANY apps that requires root access will be automatically DENIED. The only solution is to set the Automatic Response to "Allow", which I don't want to.
I tested this with LBE Privacy apps. With "Prompt" set in SuperUser, after every reboot, 2 out of 3 times LBE failed to start. I had to open SuperUser and start LBE again and it works. When I set to "Allow", no more problem.
Edit: with new Gear Manager (Jun release), this method doesn't work anymore. The new approach is to install a "contact synchroniser killer" app on the rooted watch. More details are in this post.
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Hi all,
Ever since I started using my Gear 2 Neo with my HTC One M8 phone (using the guide in this forum), I noticed that my watch consumes battery significantly faster than most of the users have been reporting. Even more strangely, sometimes after resetting both the phone and the watch (and I've done this a lot while experimenting and trying to get more stuff working) I had streaks of stellar battery life, well in line with optimistic reports here and elsewhere, but then, after a while, it started deteriorating very quickly.
So I decided it was time to do something about it. I installed Tizen SDK, hooked the watch up and started poking around. The first thing I noticed my watch CPU was, most of the time, sitting on 40%! Well, that doesn't sound right, does it? Then I noticed the log (located under /var/log/dlog_main) was full with messages related to contact synchronisation. It turns out the damn thing synchronises all of my contacts every several seconds. The trouble is I have well over 1500 contacts (that's consolidated from different sources, the number of raw contacts should be well over 3000). So it takes significant time to do this, meaning my watch (and the phone!) are thrashed by these stupid full contact syncs all the time! What's even more striking is the fact it doesn't help when I change it to "favourites only". Apparently, this affects only the contacts displayed on the watch, however, the sync process still takes all of them.
At this point I started poking around Samsung APK files to try and understand what was going on. Apparently, the APK responsible for contact sync is called GOPROVIDERS. Indeed, if you kill it, the thrashing stops, however, other important functions cease working as well. Aside of Contacts vanishing from the Gear, "Find my phone" is gone as well, but, more importantly, notifications stop working. While I could tolerate the first two, the last one was too much to give up.
I started decompiling and analysing sources. Apparently, there is a process running every several seconds that analyses if any changes have been made to the contacts. It uses pretty bizarre logic which seems to be relying on Samsung-specific fields in the contacts. Now, this already sounds suspicious, and, apparently, leads to full sync every several seconds. Obviously, the more contacts you have, the harder you're hit.
An interesting point in all this is that I'm not 100% sure the logic is working properly even on Samsung devices, so it might well be that the same issue is affecting people with high number of contacts using Samsung phones as well. I'd be really interested to see any feedbacks regarding this.
So, long story short, instead of fixing the logic (which is quite difficult in SMALI), I made a simple change which dilutes this logic invocations, right now 1:64. Since then I'm enjoying MUCH improved battery life.
The fixed APK is attached. You're welcome to give it a try at your own risk (you need to enable installation from untrusted sources + reboot and clean dalvik cache).
mpogr said:
So, long story short, instead of fixing the logic (which is quite difficult in SMALI), I made a simple change which dilutes this logic invocations, right now 1:64. Since then I'm enjoying MUCH improved battery life.
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Could you please explain your "logic invocations, right now 1:64" change?
JimSmith94 said:
Could you please explain your "logic invocations, right now 1:64" change?
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In the fixed APK the logic is actually invoked 1 time out of 64 attempts. It makes its frequency about every 40 minutes instead of every 30 seconds.
mpogr said:
In the fixed APK the logic is actually invoked 1 time out of 64 attempts. It makes its frequency about every 40 minutes instead of every 30 seconds.
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Thanks, I understand now. Congratulations on your find and fix! I'm going to try it.
mpogr said:
The fixed APK is attached. You're welcome to give it a try at your own risk (you need to enable installation from untrusted sources + reboot and clean dalvik cache).
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Someone who knows where this should be shared and divulged to the rest of the community should do so! It sounds like this is a pretty bad bug that should be addressed officially, but BIG TIME props to you for figuring this all out!!
Thank you!!!
Im on samsung f/w (note3) yesterday ive experience on severe battery drain .. in a few hours it was completely drained.. I wasnt even wearing it.. so that logic aint the only faulty one .. thx for tgat fix.. il see if it helps
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Guys, everyone with abnormal drain, it would be extremely helpful to troubleshoot your root cause if you could send me the log file from your watch that includes the affected time span. In order to do that:
Enable USB debugging on the watch (under settings->Gear Info)
Download and install Tizen SDK.
Connect your watch to the computer using its charging cradle.
Open the command line (cmd.exe), change to the folder where the SDK files are installed (the default is c:\tizen-sdk\tools) and then run the following command:
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sdb pull /var/log/dlog_main
This will pull the log file to the same folder. Then send it to me via PM (ZIP first!), so I could have a look.
mpogr said:
Guys, everyone with abnormal drain, it would be extremely helpful to troubleshoot your root cause if you could send me the log file from your watch that includes the affected time span. In order to do that:
Download and install Tizen SDK.
Connect your watch to the computer using its charging cradle.
Open the command line (cmd.exe), change to the folder where the SDK files are installed (the default is c:\tizen-sdk\tools) and then run the following command:
Code:
sdb pull /var/log/dlog_main
This will pull the log file to the same folder. Then send it to me via PM (ZIP first!), so I could have a look.
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well I decided to reformat my watch in case that woudl help but will surely grab a log next time somethign like this occurs.
Excellent work mpogr!! Will try this and report back
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I think I too have this issue and I have an S5. Does the goproviders-signed.apk go onto the phone or the Gear2?
Are there some instructions on getting the goproviders-signed.apk file onto the Gear2?
apexhugger said:
I think I too have this issue and I have an S5. Does the goproviders-signed.apk go onto the phone or the Gear2?
Are there some instructions on getting the goproviders-signed.apk file onto the Gear2?
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The APK file is installed on the phone. It is strongly advised to clear goproviders data before installing it.
I just made a new version of this APK corresponding to the new version of Gear Manager (2.1.14052101), it's attached to this post.
mpogr said:
The APK file is installed on the phone. It is strongly advised to clear goproviders data before installing it.
I just made a new version of this APK corresponding to the new version of Gear Manager (2.1.14052101), it's attached to this post.
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Thanks for that. Is there a guide for getting this file onto the Gear2 (and clearing goproviders data)?
I'm quite new to this but good at following instructions
apexhugger said:
Thanks for that. Is there a guide for getting this file onto the Gear2 (and clearing goproviders data)?
I'm quite new to this but good at following instructions
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Clearing data is usually available under "Settings->Apps" and then find the app (goproviders) and find "Clear Data" buton.
In terms of installing, you need to enable installation from untrusted sources first of all. Then, you can use any file manager software (e.g. "Root Explorer" or "Super Manager"), when you tap on an APK file, it will ask if you want to install it.
mpogr said:
Clearing data is usually available under "Settings->Apps" and then find the app (goproviders) and find "Clear Data" buton.
In terms of installing, you need to enable installation from untrusted sources first of all. Then, you can use any file manager software (e.g. "Root Explorer" or "Super Manager"), when you tap on an APK file, it will ask if you want to install it.
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I'm having trouble getting this file to install, it doesn't let let me tap install (tapping Install does nothing). Does the phone need to be rooted?
Won't let me install, keeps failing.
Any ideas? I uninstalled with root uninstaller, still fails.
Do you think disabling Super User would temp fix the drain?
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bubblebuddyi said:
Won't let me install, keeps failing.
Any ideas? I uninstalled with root uninstaller, still fails.
Do you think disabling Super User would temp fix the drain?
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Please, check if installation from untrusted sources is enabled.
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Please, check if installation from untrusted sources is enabled.
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It is.
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bubblebuddyi said:
It is.
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Actually, I think I faced it before. Gear Manager apparently checks if all of its components are installed and sometimes silently reinstalls them again.
Please, uninstall goproviders and install the alternative APK quickly afterwards.
I use Super Manager, one advantage of it is that you can see if the app is already installed (it show uninstall option when you tap on the APK in such case). I saw once, when I uninstalled the original app and then tried installing the new APK, it failed, but then, after tapping on it again, Super Manager showed that it was already installed. What I think happened was Gear Manager silently reinstalled the original app while I was trying to install the new one. Uninstalling (from Super Manager) and quickly installing again fixed it.
mpogr said:
Actually, I think I faced it before. Gear Manager apparently checks if all of its components are installed and sometimes silently reinstalls them again.
Please, uninstall goproviders and install the alternative APK quickly afterwards.
I use Super Manager, one advantage of it is that you can see if the app is already installed (it show uninstall option when you tap on the APK in such case). I saw once, when I uninstalled the original app and then tried installing the new APK, it failed, but then, after tapping on it again, Super Manager showed that it was already installed. What I think happened was Gear Manager silently reinstalled the original app while I was trying to install the new one. Uninstalling (from Super Manager) and quickly installing again fixed it.
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I tried that with Root Uninstaller, it definitely silently installs it. Faster then I could install it. And apparently disabling Root in SU uninstalled it, because now I can't re-enable it. As long as I'm not rooted, I shouldn't have an issue right?
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bubblebuddyi said:
I tried that with Root Uninstaller, it definitely silently installs it. Faster then I could install it. And apparently disabling Root in SU uninstalled it, because now I can't re-enable it. As long as I'm not rooted, I shouldn't have an issue right?
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No idea mate. Just make sure you've got the right "goproviders" installed at the end of the process. The final APK will reside under /data/app and will be named "com.samsung.accessory.goproviders-N.apk" (where N is a number like 1, 2 etc.). Just grab it (e.g. by "adb pull") and do binary comparison with the file you installed ("diff" on Andoid/Linux or "fc /b" on Windows).
First off, great forum, tons of awesome information.
I apologize in advance as I am sure these questions have been answered a million times but being new to a Rooted device, I'm looking for a little clarity and guidence.
I have the AT&T variant of the LG G3, awesome awesome device.
I rooted the device with Stump Root (doesn't get any simplier then that)
I then installed "Xposed Installer", "Titanium Backup", "SuperSu", and "G3 Tweak Box".
Questions,
Xposed
1) Seems pretty straight forward, is there anything as a newbie I should know, avoid, lookout for?
Titanium Back Up
1) Well, it all looks like chinese to me. First off, I have backed up all my apps, but when I check "Backup/Restore" I still see certain apps as "No Backup Yet". Why?
2) Also, how often should I backup the apps? Is once enough?
3) After backing up bloatware, is it then safe to remove and delete?
4) Schedules, should I be enabling either option?
5) Main Menu, whats the most important actions to take here?
SuperSu
1) Seems fairly straight forward, what are "logs" and do I need to pay attention to them?
2) Settings, is there any options I need to change, take advantage of? Anything I should avoid tampering with?
Misc Questions
1) When system updates come out, will this cause me to lose Root access, if so why and how do I avoid that?
2) Is there any prevenitive measures that I need to take to protect my device against any crashes, bricking, or any other general screw ups a newbie might cause with Root access?
3) Also, how do I not destroy my device while learning to take advantage of Root access?
4) In addition to what I have already installed, is there any other must have apps for the Rooted user?
I appreciate any & all help, thanks alot in advance!
I'll answer what I can, as best I can.
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Xposed
1) Seems pretty straight forward, is there anything as a newbie I should know, avoid, lookout for?
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Make sure you have BusyBox installed as well.
It's best to change one setting at a time. It's tedious, especially if you have to reboot after changes, but if something goes awry, it's much easier to track down the conflict or bug, especially if you're using multiple modules.
Titanium Back Up
1) Well, it all looks like chinese to me. First off, I have backed up all my apps, but when I check "Backup/Restore" I still see certain apps as "No Backup Yet". Why?
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There's a definite learning curve with TB. I'm not sure why some apps might not back up. It could be because they're core components of the OS and are write protected.
2.) Also, how often should I backup the apps? Is once enough?
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When talking about batch backups, "enough" is at your discretion. No harm in doing them periodically, especially if you install a bunch of new apps. Backing up individual apps is good to do before updating them, in case you decide you preferred the older version. Or a game you don't want lose progress in or revert to an old "save".
3) After backing up bloatware, is it then safe to remove and delete?
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Depends on the bloat. Some apps by AT&T or LG might seem unnecessary or unwanted, but actually are necessary and can cause crashes or force closes ("unfortunately XXXXX process has stopped"). Always back them up first, and remove them one at a time. It's better to freeze them first, then delete after testing. Personally, I don't delete bloat, just freeze it.
4) Schedules, should I be enabling either option?
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Both, if you want to schedule period backups rather than just doing them youself. Again, your discretion .
5) Main Menu, whats the most important actions to take here?
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Batch actions and Preferences (where to store them) are all you really should be messing with now. At least until you learn more.
SuperSu
1) Seems fairly straight forward, what are "logs" and do I need to pay attention to them?
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The logs keep track of what was granted SU access and when. Not really necessary.
2) Settings, is there any options I need to change, take advantage of? Anything I should avoid tampering with?
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PIN code is your choice. If you're the only one that ever uses your phone, it's not really necessary, but if if you let others use it frequently(for games, or to browse or log into Facebook), you might want to use a PIN so they don't simply hit "grant" whenever SuperSU requests rights. I use "prompt" as the default action, so I know what needs to access the system. For example, some apps that don't require root (like Clean Master) have additional functions if you are rooted, and this might not be clear in the description in Play. That way you know, and you won't accidentally screw something up. Also, malicious apps that have no business with root access can be identified and blocked.
Misc Questions
1) When system updates come out, will this cause me to lose Root access, if so why and how do I avoid that?
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You can sometimes (usually?) lose root access after an update, but it's usually possibly simply to re-root with the same method. If not, it's best to wait to do the update until others can confirm/deny. SuperSU has a "survival mode" that can try to keep root during an update, but again, it's best to wait for confirmation by others.
2) Is there any prevenitive measures that I need to take to protect my device against any crashes, bricking, or any other general screw ups a newbie might cause with Root access?
3) Also, how do I not destroy my device while learning to take advantage of Root access?
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Read, ask, and learn. It's easy to grow confident and think you're more clever than you really are and really screw something up (I know from experience). If you look at the first couple pages of general Q&A/Help forums, you'll see lots of people who did stupid stuff and now have bootloops and crashes and bricks. Do lots of searches, here, on google, and youtube. You can often find guides for what you're wanting to do.
4) In addition to what I have already installed, is there any other must have apps for the Rooted user?
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AdAway or other ad blocker. Not only does it block ads in your browsers, it blocks Google ads in free apps. Apart from being cleaner and more convenient, since ads don't get loaded, pages load faster and you consume less data.
BetterBatteryStats gives you much more info on what's draining your battery than the stock Android function.
Some sort of root browser/explorer is essential. You can use it to completely delete folders/data that got left behind even after an app is deleted (which can sometimes cure Google Play Store errors), among other things.
I personally like ROM Toolbox Pro. It doesn't really do anything special, just packs a ton of utilities that you can get elsewhere into a single app.
SQLite editor is necessary to do some things, but you'd better make sure you know what you're doing before doing anything with it.
WiFi Tether Router might be able to bypass AT&T's tether app. Changing some settings with SQLite might be necessary. You'd have to research this for your device.
Those are the root apps I use, as well as Xposed and assorted modules to do theming or other functionality tweaks. Xposed is quite powerful, and you should familiarize yourself with what the multitude of different modules can do. The possibilities are seemingly endless, as developers come up with no mods every day to do new things that nobody else has done yet (or ported other mods to work with other devices).
I appreciate any & all help, thanks alot in advance!
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Good luck and have fun!
Planterz said:
I'll answer what I can, as best I can.
Make sure you have BusyBox installed as well.
It's best to change one setting at a time. It's tedious, especially if you have to reboot after changes, but if something goes awry, it's much easier to track down the conflict or bug, especially if you're using multiple modules.
There's a definite learning curve with TB. I'm not sure why some apps might not back up. It could be because they're core components of the OS and are write protected.
When talking about batch backups, "enough" is at your discretion. No harm in doing them periodically, especially if you install a bunch of new apps. Backing up individual apps is good to do before updating them, in case you decide you preferred the older version. Or a game you don't want lose progress in or revert to an old "save".
Depends on the bloat. Some apps by AT&T or LG might seem unnecessary or unwanted, but actually are necessary and can cause crashes or force closes ("unfortunately XXXXX process has stopped"). Always back them up first, and remove them one at a time. It's better to freeze them first, then delete after testing. Personally, I don't delete bloat, just freeze it.
Both, if you want to schedule period backups rather than just doing them youself. Again, your discretion .
Batch actions and Preferences (where to store them) are all you really should be messing with now. At least until you learn more.
The logs keep track of what was granted SU access and when. Not really necessary.
PIN code is your choice. If you're the only one that ever uses your phone, it's not really necessary, but if if you let others use it frequently(for games, or to browse or log into Facebook), you might want to use a PIN so they don't simply hit "grant" whenever SuperSU requests rights. I use "prompt" as the default action, so I know what needs to access the system. For example, some apps that don't require root (like Clean Master) have additional functions if you are rooted, and this might not be clear in the description in Play. That way you know, and you won't accidentally screw something up. Also, malicious apps that have no business with root access can be identified and blocked.
You can sometimes (usually?) lose root access after an update, but it's usually possibly simply to re-root with the same method. If not, it's best to wait to do the update until others can confirm/deny. SuperSU has a "survival mode" that can try to keep root during an update, but again, it's best to wait for confirmation by others.
Read, ask, and learn. It's easy to grow confident and think you're more clever than you really are and really screw something up (I know from experience). If you look at the first couple pages of general Q&A/Help forums, you'll see lots of people who did stupid stuff and now have bootloops and crashes and bricks. Do lots of searches, here, on google, and youtube. You can often find guides for what you're wanting to do.
AdAway or other ad blocker. Not only does it block ads in your browsers, it blocks Google ads in free apps. Apart from being cleaner and more convenient, since ads don't get loaded, pages load faster and you consume less data.
BetterBatteryStats gives you much more info on what's draining your battery than the stock Android function.
Some sort of root browser/explorer is essential. You can use it to completely delete folders/data that got left behind even after an app is deleted (which can sometimes cure Google Play Store errors), among other things.
I personally like ROM Toolbox Pro. It doesn't really do anything special, just packs a ton of utilities that you can get elsewhere into a single app.
SQLite editor is necessary to do some things, but you'd better make sure you know what you're doing before doing anything with it.
WiFi Tether Router might be able to bypass AT&T's tether app. Changing some settings with SQLite might be necessary. You'd have to research this for your device.
Those are the root apps I use, as well as Xposed and assorted modules to do theming or other functionality tweaks. Xposed is quite powerful, and you should familiarize yourself with what the multitude of different modules can do. The possibilities are seemingly endless, as developers come up with no mods every day to do new things that nobody else has done yet (or ported other mods to work with other devices).
Good luck and have fun!
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Thanks for the detailed response. Just a follow up, when googling AdAway, I see some long threads and what I think are different versions, is there a link, or a place that I can find the latest (and safe??) version to download?
Again, appreciate the feedback.
Vic098 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. Just a follow up, when googling AdAway, I see some long threads and what I think are different versions, is there a link, or a place that I can find the latest (and safe??) version to download?
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http://d-h.st/BZs
If you haven't done so already, you'll have to go into your settings and check the box to allow app installation from unknown sources. Then just go to that link on your device, download the .apk, then install. Go to a site with a heavy amount of ads like phonearena.com (Verizon ads up the wazoo) and see how long it takes to load. Then reboot, and load the app. It'll update sources, and it'll be good to go. Go back to that website and marvel at how quickly it loads without the ads.
Vic098 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. Just a follow up, when googling AdAway, I see some long threads and what I think are different versions, is there a link, or a place that I can find the latest (and safe??) version to download?
Again, appreciate the feedback.
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Is this a Xposed Module or some APK off the google market? Because if it's an Xposed Mod then links are direct.
Radigen said:
Is this a Xposed Module or some APK off the google market? Because if it's an Xposed Mod then links are direct.
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Gotchya.
Planterz said:
If you haven't done so already, you'll have to go into your settings and check the box to allow app installation from unknown sources. Then just go to that link on your device, download the .apk, then install.
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The link downloads a file called mobogenie. Is that correct?
Vic098 said:
The link downloads a file called mobogenie. Is that correct?
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No. I don't know what that is, and I can't recreate whatever you did to get that. Whatever it is, don't install it.The file to download will match the name in the description. Make sure you're not clicking an ad (oh, the irony).
Try this link instead. https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway or try downloading on your computer to Dropbox or Drive or whatever cloud storage you use, or just download it to your computer, plug in your phone, copy it to your phone's storage, and run it from there.
Radigen said:
Is this a Xposed Module or some APK off the google market? Because if it's an Xposed Mod then links are direct.
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Neither. It's not an Xposed module, just a regular app, but it's not available from the Google Play Store because they don't want you blocking your ads, so you have to side load it.
Planterz said:
No. I don't know what that is, and I can't recreate whatever you did to get that. Whatever it is, don't install it.The file to download will match the name in the description. Make sure you're not clicking an ad (oh, the irony).
Try this link instead. https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway or try downloading on your computer to Dropbox or Drive or whatever cloud storage you use, or just download it to your computer, plug in your phone, copy it to your phone's storage, and run it from there.
Neither. It's not an Xposed module, just a regular app, but it's not available from the Google Play Store because they don't want you blocking your ads, so you have to side load it.
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Oh alright, thanks then, good thing we're all developers here.