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Guys, look and the new SGS...

Here @ Engadget

So many choice phrases to say right now.
****ing mind boggling.

As a Vibrant owner (since I haven't sold mine yet) I'm kind of pissed at this. It's like they're throwing salt in the wound. Samsung throws 2.2 on that phone before the one that's currently out, gives it a FFC which it was supposed to have from the get go (the hole for it is even there on the motherboard), and makes it HSPA+ capable? Will somebody please tell them that nobody's ever going to support them again since their apparent solution to the no update problem is to sell you a slightly updated version of the exact same phone instead of bringing the existing one with the same basic hardware up to the now out of date OS that it should have had 6 months ago.

in this case.. the Nexus S must of been the sequel to the Vibrant 4G *cough* Android 2.3 *cough*
Vibrant (2.1) -> Vibrant 4G (2.2) -> Nexus S (2.3 - forever)

Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
I'm not going to fault T-Mobile for releasing a better phone 6 months later; that's become a long time in terms of hardware development. I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
The picture looks like the same form factor as the current Vibrant; so if all the rest of the stuff is the same, that tells us that our NS, or even our Vibrants, are still pretty much top of the line devices.
Since this looks to be the same build as the current Vibrant, I wonder if it will have the same creaks and groans.
Since they've changed the radio chip (to support 21Mbs) I also wonder if it will still have the AT&T 1900Mhz 3G band support like the current Vibrant.

distortedloop said:
Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Vibrant released on July 15th of 2010.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system

i dont wanna be a douche-er here, but, why isnt this in the vibrant forum?

Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.

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Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Its how tech works, thats like me saying Nvidia shouldnt have created a GTX580 because i just bought a GTX480....how dare they!

Galaxy S2 will be revealed in February: Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/
Considering these phones will likely get enough developer support to see ports of any and all new iterations of Android released from Google (which usually end up being better and more feature-rich than stock anyway); considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting); considering bloatware doesn't *really* do any harm; and considering Google only releases two major updates a year to the current Nexus phone, it makes me reconsider my position and the worth of the Nexus line.
Everyone will have different preferences, of course, but a lot of me wishes Google would directly challenge Apple with a "Google Experience" phone that isn't meant only to appease developers. In other words, a phone that does compete hardware wise, that does have a more uniformed OS experience that would cater to average-users, while retaining the customizable options and variety that sets the Android experience apart from iOS. That wouldn't sound bad at all.
Perhaps I just got the wrong phone, or perhaps I'm finding out Android isn't for me. Unfortunately, i don't agree with Apple's "the average user is an idiot" philosophy either. For what it's worth, I'm just thinking out loud.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Please check your facts before correcting people.
The Vibrant's official release date was supposed to be July 21, 2010, but looks like it came out a week early though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#In_the_United_States
Let's see, August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan...that's 6 months right there, and by the time this new Vibrant Plus comes out (next month, maybe later) it will be 7-8 months or more. There's no announced release date yet that I've seen.
Also, I know we're talking about the T-Mo Vibrant, but it's only a slight variant of the original i9000. I have owned both, and even disassembled both. They both use the same display, touchscreen, same cpu, same gpu, same just about everything internally except the radio and the capacitive buttons. You can even put the i9000 FFC into a Vibrant by just removing some paint, and I've place the Vibrant's speaker assembly into an i9000.
My point was that the basic technology of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line of phones is almost a year old now. The i9000 was demo'd in April 2010, and available for purchase in June 2010. In the phone world, 9-12 months is a very long time...they need to provide something new and exciting to sell more phones, and a 21Mbs radio probably fits that bill.
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.

Hey guys come on it's a "customer favourite"

If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.

Why didn't the nexus s have the hspa+ and I feel like everyone that got the vibrant just got screwed.

distortedloop said:
But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
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Agreed. Makes sense when you put it like that
distortedloop said:
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
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Yeah I agree. It reminds me of when the Nexus One came out and set a standard for smartphones and looked really classy which caused alot of people to become loyal followers.
I wonder how long Apples loyalty will last if they don't set a new standard like they did with the iPhone 4 and you have a bunch of crazy Android phones (Atrix, Bionic, Optimus, etc) breathing down their neck?
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And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
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Good point I agree.
Cash for non-subsidized iPhone 4? wow

No one is forcing you to buy it, just wait.
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distortedloop said:
If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
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Wow if that's true then Samsung are some eeeeeeeeeeeevil mf'ers
Good find there dloop thanks for posting
Wonder if Samsung is the one telling Google not to give us N1 owners gingerbread as well... :angry:

onthecouchagain said:
considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting);
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There is no way that removing touchwiz is easy, and when i left the Captivate, (about a month ago now) there still wasn't a rom that had it 100% removed.

Galaxy S3 - sounds promising - IF.......

.... Apple don't complain and go to legal actions about patents, glass and metal case etc., after first have released Iphone 5 before the SII hits the market.
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/82-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III

It's anyone's guess at this stage what the next Samsung Galaxy smartphone is going to be like, lots of rumors doing the rounds personally im happy to wait until next year with the GS2 which is still the best in the business.
[The rumored specs of the GS3 though do sound amazing]

Awesome specs but I wish they provide better software support to existing sgs n sgs 2 my sgs 2 is still on 2.3.3 waiting for updtes to arive in india n I dont wana flash as its already working awesome at least til warrenty lasts
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lol those are some spec's

You could probably play Crisis on that beast with no lag at all...
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jonny68 said:
It's anyone's guess at this stage what the next Samsung Galaxy smartphone is going to be like, lots of rumors doing the rounds personally im happy to wait until next year with the GS2 which is still the best in the business.
For my part I hope Samsung do more both hardware, and software, testing before launching the SIII.
On Tuesday I'm going to send my S2 and Tab 10.1 back for repair.
The S2 have random locs/reboots and somewhat loose homebutton.
The TAB has watermarks/newton-rings.
Maybe I have been unlucky with my first Samsung devices but I have never had devices, 30-40 phones and pc's over the years, with faults like this after only 2 months use.
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My samsung galaxy S2 has been very good to me.

I hope the 720p screen doesn't make me have to squint my eyes to see something. >.>
Especially when reading text. Dx

I am going to stick to my S2/i5 phones, but I can't wait to see what the S3 brings.
P.S I not been asked about my iphone yet and I am glad. (I have had two ask if my S2 was the Iphone 5, but no one has said the same about my iphone 5.lol)

4ktvs said:
I am going to stick to my S2/i5 phones, but I can't wait to see what the S3 brings.
P.S I not been asked about my iphone yet and I am glad. (I have had two ask if my S2 was the Iphone 5, but no one has said the same about my iphone 5.lol)
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You're claiming to have an iphone 5?

4.3" is big enough, add a case and you're carrying a novel in your pocket, 4.7" will be like carrying a box of cereal in your pocket. That said, if it's light, and slim, it might not be so bad.

pankajkundalia said:
Awesome specs but I wish they provide better software support to existing sgs n sgs 2 my sgs 2 is still on 2.3.3 waiting for updtes to arive in india n I dont wana flash as its already working awesome at least til warrenty lasts
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I am also running 2.3.3 on my phone and after I read the thread about changes on 2.3.5, my 2.3.3 has most of those function(features) such as zoom in&out button in gallery. So you don't have to be envy man
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666fff said:
You're claiming to have an iphone 5?
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I know some thing's about it, but there's no point of me telling about it now for the next day every one will know all they need to know. I have now really not been able to use it alot and I like my S2 better.

pankajkundalia said:
Awesome specs but I wish they provide better software support to existing sgs n sgs 2 my sgs 2 is still on 2.3.3 waiting for updtes to arive in india n I dont wana flash as its already working awesome at least til warrenty lasts
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most people on here are now running 2.3.5 i couldn't be dealing waiting around for official updates when leaked versions are there

4ktvs said:
I am going to stick to my S2/i5 phones, but I can't wait to see what the S3 brings.
P.S I not been asked about my iphone yet and I am glad. (I have had two ask if my S2 was the Iphone 5, but no one has said the same about my iphone 5.lol)
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iphone5 my arse...
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jj03 said:
iphone5 my arse...
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I don't care if any one think's I do/don't have an Iphone "5" or not. I like my galaxy s2 better any ways.
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I think 4core phones will be when the smart phone market nears it's highest point. The S3 may start to get Iphone like sales as well if it get's to the states faster than the S2.

more rumours originated from 4chan?

4ktvs said:
I don't care if any one think's I do/don't have an Iphone "5" or not. I like my galaxy s2 better any ways.
Edit: ontopic
I think 4core phones will be when the smart phone market nears it's highest point. The S3 may start to get Iphone like sales as well if it get's to the states faster than the S2.
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Obviously you do care, since you felt the need to bring it up in a completely unrelated thread...

4ktvs said:
I don't care if any one think's I do/don't have an Iphone "5" or not. I like my galaxy s2 better any ways.
Edit: ontopic
I think 4core phones will be when the smart phone market nears it's highest point. The S3 may start to get Iphone like sales as well if it get's to the states faster than the S2.
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Then why bring it up?
Did you see anything cool besides an iPhone during your time in the future?
If you really have an iPhone5, then that ABSOLUTELY is what this topic is about now...You apparently have something in your possession no tech publication, reputable news agency, etc have been able to get their hands on.
Wanna get your name all over the news? 15 minutes of fame? Post some pics/video. You'll make every evening news in the country.

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Obviously you do care, since you felt the need to bring it up in a completely unrelated thread...
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AdamHart612 said:
Then why bring it up?
Did you see anything cool besides an iPhone during your time in the future?
If you really have an iPhone5, then that ABSOLUTELY is what this topic is about now...You apparently have something in your possession no tech publication, reputable news agency, etc have been able to get their hands on.
Wanna get your name all over the news? 15 minutes of fame? Post some pics/video. You'll make every evening news in the country.
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I did not bring it up like I want to be cool or anything. I have had alot of thing's before anyone else:
Halo: ODST
Cr-48
A game I can't name at this time( They will come to get me if name it.)
And now the Iphone ok.
P.S Ok so not a lot, but you get the point. The Cr-48 was the coolest to me and I have not had the phone for long they are just geting them in. I did not think every one would be so mad, but the ICS thread should have spelled it out for me.
Now about the Iphone part, I was just saying I am unlikey going to buy the S3, but it should be cool and I can't wait to see it.
Edit: You will all see the truth on 09/4/11.

[Q] Ripping My Hair Out!

Hi all. As I'm sure you can see, this is my first post on XDA. This seemed like the perfect smartphone related community, so I joined up, and I look forward to becoming a long time active member. Now, to the point of this thread. I am looking to pick up my first ever smartphone(yes yes let the laughter out, I still own a Nokia from the stone age, and its' embarrassing to pull it out in public lol). I really had my heart set on the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE. By the way, I am from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and am a Rogers Wireless customer, and that is their version of the Samsung Galaxy S II. But after extensive research, which actually brought me to XDA, I found out that they have a massive screen defect issue with the vertical lines and blobs. Although, some people, from what I've read, have said that it isn't such a big deal, while others just can't stand it. With that information, I am back at square one. I do not know what phone to get. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus is just way too big in my opinion, as I have held one. And next to Samsung, I think the best wireless company would probably be Motorola. With that, I was thinking about possibly picking up the Motorolo RAZR. Is that a good choice over the Galaxy S II? Bad choice? It has gotten some stellar reviews, but it seems that the Galaxy S II is the superior phone out there. So my question is, what should I get? I know a few people that have had issues with their HTC's, so I'm not really leaning toward them. What should I do? This is driving me crazy. I want a new phone sooooo badly, but don't know what to choose. Any help or advice is truly appreciated!! Thank you so much.

Motorola doesn't look so good when it comes to updating their devices, if you are to consider that the atrix has not been announced on their road map to ICS. That may change, but for now, it doesn't look like they are keen on updating their devices.
Just to point it out, every phone has issues, but usually it is a minority that experience these issues. So just saying, a HTC phone will have the same amount of issues as a Samsung one. But now comes my bias, I love my sgs 2, and would fully recommend it.

I'd go for the LTE SII, it's a very nice phone and one problem that only a couple people are reporting should never discourage you from getting a good phone

Wait. Wait for more native ics phones. If you can hold out, I'd recommend you wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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well my suggestion goes against what you are looking for, but it's a rock solid performer; HTC Droid Incredible 2. it's a 3G only device, it's about six months old, and has a great community behind it. there are a few great stock ROMs to select from, and quite a few Sense 3.5 ROMs as well.
this is my first android device, and my second HTC device. i am very happy with it, and i have no buyer's remorse given the latest and greatest new phones on the market. it handles everything i throw at it, it has no compatibility issues on the Market for my uses. i'm not much of a phone gamer, but it plays my tower defense games like Sentinel 3 smoothly.
battery life is great for me. i can get a day out of it with my normal use; gmail on push, about an hour's worth of calling, 40-50 sms, 30-45 minutes of gaming, 30 minutes of forum and web browsing, and maybe 100MB of downloads.
give our forum a look-see, i think you may be impressed. but is you have your heart set on LTE, you will have to look elsewhere.

Me too!!
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Kailkti said:
I love my sgs 2, and would fully recommend it.
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Is your SGS2 the Skyrocket(American equivlent to the Canada S2 LTE)? Cause it seems that the problem is most widespread on these devices. If I could get a normal S2 on my provider, I would own one right now!!
cordell507 said:
one problem that only a couple people are reporting
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It seems to be pretty widespread...
slapshot30 said:
wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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Samsung announced that all S2's would be getting ICS from what I've read.

International sgs 2. I wont let myself be boggled down by those monopolistic carriers.
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Kailkti said:
International sgs 2. I wont let myself be boggled down by those monopolistic carriers.
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I would so be down to have an international one shipped to me except:
a)When it comes to a phone, I prefer to buy a brand spanking new device.
b)I'm the type of person, especially for a purchase like this, that likes to see/hold the product before I buy it.

if you ok with leaving rogers it seems like virgin mobile in canada has a great selection of good phones.

Grosskum said:
if you ok with leaving rogers it seems like virgin mobile in canada has a great selection of good phones.
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I do like Rogers, but leaving them is a possibility. If I did though, I would have to go with Telus instead of Virgin.

Dont get motorolla anything.... with locked bootloaders development fot the phones is bad... go with a Samsung... I have a Captivate running ICS and i love it...
wouldnt trade it for anything....unless its an actual Galaxy Nexus lol

jayRokk said:
Dont get motorolla anything.... with locked bootloaders development fot the phones is bad... go with a Samsung... I have a Captivate running ICS and i love it...
wouldnt trade it for anything....unless its an actual Galaxy Nexus lol
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Yea I've pretty much made my decision, I'm going to go with the Galaxy S II LTE.

RoLo. said:
Yea I've pretty much made my decision, I'm going to go with the Galaxy S II LTE.
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Good choice
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look hands down any htc or or google device is the only device i would recommend for development

You know, every phone has its defect. Theres just no such phone that doesnt have any problems with its production.
You saw many messages about defective screen, thats only because SGS2 is one of most popular smartphones right now, and there are many buyers. Many phones, some % of them is defective.
Happy ppl got their SGS2 without defect and they are using it, and dont complain. But only those who got some problem, go to forum, do research and so on. They post about their problem. There are many ppl with such problems, but there are much more ppl who are lucky to have their phone without any defects or whatever problems.
Chances to get such phone with defect is very small. Theres just some % of phones which are defective. Imagine situation: 100 motorolas sold out, 1 of them (1%) was defective . You go to forums and see only 1 post about defective phone. 100000 SGS2 sold out, and 1000 of them (its same 1%) was defective. You go to forums and see OMG 1000 posts about defective SGS2, but it is the same % as motorolas. Just different quantity.
all the numbers I used are just an example
So.. SGS2 is a good choice.

Roksard said:
You know, every phone has its defect. Theres just no such phone that doesnt have any problems with its production.
You saw many messages about defective screen, thats only because SGS2 is one of most popular smartphones right now, and there are many buyers. Many phones, some % of them is defective.
Happy ppl got their SGS2 without defect and they are using it, and dont complain. But only those who got some problem, go to forum, do research and so on. They post about their problem. There are many ppl with such problems, but there are much more ppl who are lucky to have their phone without any defects or whatever problems.
Chances to get such phone with defect is very small. Theres just some % of phones which are defective. Imagine situation: 100 motorolas sold out, 1 of them (1%) was defective . You go to forums and see only 1 post about defective phone. 100000 SGS2 sold out, and 1000 of them (its same 1%) was defective. You go to forums and see OMG 1000 posts about defective SGS2, but it is the same % as motorolas. Just different quantity.
all the numbers I used are just an example
So.. SGS2 is a good choice.
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Yeah, I started thinking about this as well before making my decision. And in a worst case scenerio if I do get a defective one, I can exchange it for a brand new device. Thanks for all the input fellas. Much appreciated.

slapshot30 said:
Wait. Wait for more native ics phones. If you can hold out, I'd recommend you wait for a phone that already has the new firmware.
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it's good to wait but latest phones are not that cheap.

Warranty is your best friend!
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Google I/O 2012

All I want to say is, google please get project glass out to the public asap. I want to try it. the project glass presentation (the stunts) was the best in any conference. but that girl presenter (the redhead) was boring as hell, almost killed show. I know some will think that wearing this thing will look stupid in public (I kinda think that way)...but i want to try it.
JB coming in mid july..and we just got ICS...-_-
actually thinking about selling the tmobile sg2 to get the galaxy nexus since it just dropped in price to $350. the only thing holding me back is the 21mb vs 42mb hspa+ for tmobile since i use my phone to tether and the speed matters.

safeplayer22 said:
All I want to say is, google please get project glass out to the public asap. I want to try it. the project glass presentation (the stunts) was the best in any conference. but that girl presenter (the redhead) was boring as hell, almost killed show. I know some will think that wearing this thing will look stupid in public (I kinda think that way)...but i want to try it.
JB coming in mid july..and we just got ICS...-_-
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What does this have to do with our phone?..
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JPOKeefe said:
What does this have to do with our phone?..
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Woah, did you find a post that was off topic? Thanks for protecting us from Android related discussion, bro!

the JB didn't look so much different from ICS. i mean it IS "4.1" not 5.0
it looks like a little bit tweaked ICS. i'm pretty sure the devs here or cyanogenmod team would be able to bring JB experience soon. official JB would take forever with the Touchwiz overlay and bloatware of course.
even so, i'm sure we'll definitely get it official or unofficial since our phone is better in hardwares compared to the galaxy nexus.
nexus 7 is definitely making my wallet go crazy though.

safeplayer22 said:
actually thinking about selling the tmobile sg2 to get the galaxy nexus since it just dropped in price to $350. the only thing holding me back is the 21mb vs 42mb hspa+ for tmobile since i use my phone to tether and the speed matters.
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I already have a buyer offering me 380, I'm sad to let my gs2 go though (first Android phone)

Also gotta T-Mobile S2. I highly doubt this phone will get JB seeing how it just got ICS not even 2 weeks ago. Not gonna sell it for a nexus tho, i like the camera on mine and I'm sure there will be a new nexus phone this year.

On a scale of 1-10, how hard did we get screwed by LG?

If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?

Pain-N-Panic said:
If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...

I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL

I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:

10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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giveen said:
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.

alexbevi said:
That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.

It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.

bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!

mansa_noob said:
Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store

should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol

Pain-N-Panic said:
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .

alexbevi said:
It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones

icewolf293 said:
What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone

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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?

Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.

knotes said:
Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude