.. that does the equivalent task29 we used to do in WM6.5 ?
What task 29 used to do, is wipe the whole device, rendering it non-bootable.
So everytime you wrote a new rom on it, it had fresh system files on it.
Is that possible on android, or is it not needed ?
I mean wipe data/wipe cache/wipe dalvin on cwm is enough to wipe the system clean ?
#1 wrong section
#2 do
- factory reset
- wipe cache
- wipe dalvik cache
#3 do #2 3 times
Device is clean!
RinTinTigger said:
#1 wrong section
#2 do
- factory reset
- wipe cache
- wipe dalvik cache
#3 do #2 3 times
Device is clean!
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Why would you do #2 3 times ?
Why is this the wrong section ? I asked the dev's.
Questions belong to Q&A
i learned the hard way
We do #2 multiple times, cuz cwm and amon_ra showed that some times for some roms, on wipe isnt enuf
You don't need to make the phone unbootable; it's not necessary to do that to flash a new rom.
The clockwork wipe/factory reset should be good enough for any phone. That also wipes the cache and dalvik-cache anyways, so the other steps are just being a bit anal, but don't do harm, and some do think they're necessary. (FYI - I do them too. LOL).
IF you ever want to TOTALLY wipe the phone, including all personal data, apps, and sdcard contents, the quickest and easiest way appears to be just run the fastboot oem unlock command on the phone again. Total wipe of everything outside the /system partition.
There is something like a task29. The only place I know I exist is for the G1. It is called superwipe and is flashed from recovery.
It wont work with the nexus s?
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distortedloop said:
You don't need to make the phone unbootable; it's not necessary to do that to flash a new rom.
The clockwork wipe/factory reset should be good enough for any phone. That also wipes the cache and dalvik-cache anyways, so the other steps are just being a bit anal, but don't do harm, and some do think they're necessary. (FYI - I do them too. LOL).
IF you ever want to TOTALLY wipe the phone, including all personal data, apps, and sdcard contents, the quickest and easiest way appears to be just run the fastboot oem unlock command on the phone again. Total wipe of everything outside the /system partition.
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Hm i didnt think of that. Last night i did a format of my sdcard and a odin restore into 2.3.1. I had weird behaviour before with all the nightlies and the different kernels and stuff and after 3-5 wipes of cwm i would still find trash in my phone. Everything works fine now after all that hassle, but i loved the task29 back in the days. Heck i got my hd2 out of the drawer just to task29 it.
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Sorry, this might be kind of a noob question, but i see build 23 is out for CM7. If i flash the new build, do i need to totally set up my phone all over again?
My last experience with CM ROMS on my G1 was that if you are upgrading to a new CM version a wipe is recommended but not necessary. However, if you do not wipe and experience problems it will be the first troubleshooting step suggested to you
YMMV on the MT4G builds, but that's how it worked with the G1
Genocaust said:
My last experience with CM ROMS on my G1 was that if you are upgrading to a new CM version a wipe is recommended but not necessary. However, if you do not wipe and experience problems it will be the first troubleshooting step suggested to you
YMMV on the MT4G builds, but that's how it worked with the G1
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Thanks. Ugh, i didn't even think about that when i flashed CM7. Seems like it is a real PITA to wipe every time and have to configure all the settings again.
I had good success on my move from stock -> Ice Glacier (un-crapwared stock) by making a full TitaniumBackup of -everything- and then restoring it app by app (along with settings). They are similarly built ROMs, and it worked well for me with minimal downtime. You may want to consider trying that if you are just changing between CM flavors, as I would presume they are mostly backward compatible with a few fixes/features here and there. At worst it may leave you with just system settings to redo.
When i flash a new CMNightly all i do is wipe the cache and the Dalv/Cache and i've yet to have any problems. If you are worried about wiping and restoring everything. you might want to look into Titanium Backup.
thanks. I flashed without wiping and it seems to be fine. I was worried more about my system settings than apps.
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thanks. I flashed without wiping and it seems to be fine. I was worried more about my system settings than apps.
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Wiping the Cache and wiping the Dalv Cache will not reset the phone. Only a full wipe will do that.
To my understanding, a "full wipe/factory reset" in Clockwork Recovery will only clear /cache, /data, and Davlik cache. /boot and /system will not be touched. Some users moving from Froyo to Gingerbread have had problems with /system, and a wipe of /system (from within Clockwork Recovery or from adb) has solved some problems for people, beyond what a full wipe can do. Discussions are in the CM7 thread in the Application Development subforum.
I know, most people refuse to search for anything.
i usually wipe the Cache and the Dalv Cache when updating nightlies, but several times i've wiped nothing and just flashed the new one on top and its always worked just fine for me
I always do a full wipe when installing roms. Setting it up each time makes me think its a whole new phone which is cool.
You do NOT need to wipe when upgrading to a new version of the same ROM. I've probably flashed 10 no-wipe updates of cm7 on my phone and it's still perfectly stable, no force closes or anything.
Boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache before flashing. Give it a few mins to "settle" on the first boot, reboot again and you're good to go.
Worst-case scenario you'll just wipe and reflash anyway, and nothing lost.
I've searched out and read alot about rooting. I've down loaded the required files. Read and re-read as much as I can about rooting, flashing, recovery etc. I do not claim to understand it all. I'm still in my Buyers Remorse period so I won't root until thats over.
I've read from end to all, all the Custom ROM threads on this forum. EaglesBlood makes the comment...Wipe wipe wipe ....and he lists several things to wipe.
I've gone back into rooting and flashing guides and cannot find anything about Wipe.
I rooted only 1 time in my life....on the Nexus One....but don't recall using any wipe command.
I searched over in the Android forum for any kind of guide that would take me from Root to recovery to flash to update....and answer the wipe question for me.
I've flashed and wiped for years on Windows Phone....and spent the time in advance to understand the process and the steps ...before I attempted it. Want to be as sure with Android...before I step in...because...lord help me....if I brick the device, I'm gonna have to go to a Sensation....because G2x's aren't back on the market yet....and I really don't want to do that....I'll have to take back everything I said about the sensation if I do....
Does anyone know of a guide that goes from root to recovery to backup to flash and includes the tips and tricks like....wipe, when to wipe, etc?
TIA
If you want to root there is a topic in dev section called superoneclick
For clockworkmod(backups, restores, rom and kernel flashing) check out the nvflash topic in dev section
For all roms there is usually instructions as what exactly to do in steps.
Hope this helps. I would post links if I was on my computer sorry.
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Also this topic should probably be in the Q&A section
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I will help answer your question. When you root an android phone you are installing files that give you the ability to modify your rom, and recovery. These files are stored in a separate partition on your phone that is hidden from the phone you will not need to wipe when just rooting your phone.
If you want to install a custom rom you will need to first flash a different recovery for the g2x you need to use nvflash. This process once again you will not need to wipe the phone. Whit this recovery you can make backups of you phone and does not require a custom rom.
If you want to then install a custom rom use the new recovery to make a backup first that way you can restore your phone if anything goes wrong.
Now after your back up and after down loading what ever new rom you wish to use it is always suggested to wipe your phone. Wiping clears out all your personal files from you rom partion making it easier for the new rom to install the new files needed for the rom and to modify any old ones.
I hope this helps explain and clears ups your questions.
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Moved to proper forum.
There are a couple of options in the recovery menu that let you wipe data. When I boot into clockwork mod recovery you can choose to wipe all user data, cache, dalvik cache, and battery statistics. They're located under different sub menus but they're all there. When your ready to flash a rom make sure you have a backup, then wipe all user data 2 or 3 times (thus the Wipe Wipe Wipe you were referring to), wipe dalvik cache, and then flash. Some people recommend wiping battery statistics too but I don't know if that's necessary every time. Once you've wiped everything sufficiently then flash your rom. Wiping just ensures you're starting with a clean slate.
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Thanks All,
Right after I posted this, I found unlockr.com. Not that he looks like 'The' expert, he puts everyones stuff together in the same place. I saw where the WIPE WIPE WIPE comes from.
I had already used this superone click thread on this forum to gather the files...but wanted to see the steps in action....the vids on the unlockr site show me the steps quite nicely.
thanks all for the feedback.!!
"Wipe, wipe, wipe" refers to wipe the data, cache, and Dalvik cache, which is done via CWM.
So I'm familiar with flashing, just not with the tablet. What's the accepted method for flashing from 1ROM to the next? With my phone I generally flashed back to stock using ODIN. Is it OK to simply jump from one ROM to the next?
Thanks guys.
gorealmighty said:
So I'm familiar with flashing, just not with the tablet. What's the accepted method for flashing from 1ROM to the next? With my phone I generally flashed back to stock using ODIN. Is it OK to simply jump from one ROM to the next?
Thanks guys.
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The same method for your phone is generally the best way to do it on a tablet as well. You "can" jump from one to another, but you always run the risk of file pieces getting left behind or random little bugs cropping up and such. For that reason, it's always best to do a full wipe, factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and then flash the new ROM.
traumbrecher said:
For that reason, it's always best to do a full wipe, factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and then flash the new ROM.
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Formating /system, /data and /cache is sufficient. Factory reset could compromise your /sdcard and /sd-ext (if any) data, depending on the custom recovery you're using.
traumbrecher said:
The same method for your phone is generally the best way to do it on a tablet as well. You "can" jump from one to another, but you always run the risk of file pieces getting left behind or random little bugs cropping up and such. For that reason, it's always best to do a full wipe, factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and then flash the new ROM.
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I just want to be clear, im to understand that all I really need to do is a fact data reset, and wipe everything from recovery? if thats all there is to it then freaking sweet. flashing to ODIN and going through the motions gets annoying.
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Formating /system, /data and /cache is sufficient. Factory reset could compromise your /sdcard and /sd-ext (if any) data, depending on the custom recovery you're using.
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I have always done this with the express intent to wipe everything clear and reinstall all apps and data fresh once I'm on the new ROM, but this has never messed up my CWM.
gorealmighty said:
I just want to be clear, im to understand that all I really need to do is a fact data reset, and wipe everything from recovery? if thats all there is to it then freaking sweet. flashing to ODIN and going through the motions gets annoying.
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Yeah, I feel your pain. I love my SGSII and my wife has my old Captivate, but the ODIN stuff all the time did get kind of annoying. Luckily ODIN and a homemade jig are a lifesaver if you ever screw anything up though But yes, flashing to a new ROM on the tablet is pretty simple and doesn't have a few of the extra steps you have to do on certain phones. Just back everything up on your PC first, then I generally like to type out a list of all the apps I have on the tablet to redownload afterward, then wipe it all and flash the new ROM, then start downloading stuff from the market again.
I always see in rom threads about FC issues and other problems. I never had any of those problems and i've flashed roms countless numbers of times. Ive never even done a fix permissions.
In most of the Rom threads it says
-Do a Wipe and Factory reset in recovery 3 times or w/e.
My way of doing things and not having any issues is-
-Wipe/Factory reset in recovey
-go to mounts and storage and format /system
-go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache
-Wipe/Factory reset once more
-Flash rom and enjoy having no issues.
3 times was suggested. Because our cwm was not made for us. So u can be certin its fully wiping. And yes good idea wipe data cache and dalvik. And format system alot of rom threads suggest this
I've found formating cache, system and data partitions, flashing darkside and then flashing rom is enough for me
icenight89 said:
I've found formating cache, system and data partitions, flashing darkside and then flashing rom is enough for me
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Exactly what I do.......No issues at all..........
Good, I just posted this for anyone having those f/c issues and such or noobs
Well those force close issues can get to the point where even after odin of stock tar still didnt
Solve. It was weird glad no one has had them forawhile
Weird, I never had them at all. Maybe I'm just more cautious than most of the noobs we get lol
Not really a caution type thing. Eventually it will happen if just using 989 cwm wipe. Using tdj's full wipe script and 727 specific recovery is the way to go. Even fix permissions works in recovery now for me at least.
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fix permissions works for me now and I'm still usinf 5.0.2.7, so not to sure on that
Darkside is the bomb.. never had any issues since using it.
Does anyone have a zip that will wipe my phone clean so that I can install a new ROM? I have one for my GS3, but I was unable to find one for my One X. Even with a Google search.
Kelton Rivas said:
Does anyone have a zip that will wipe my phone clean so that I can install a new ROM? I have one for my GS3, but I was unable to find one for my One X. Even with a Google search.
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You'll need to find the RUU for the firmware that your phone is currently on. Download the ruu to your computer. Plug in phone and boot into fastboot. Run the ruu on the computer and it will bring your phone back to 100% factory status.
It won't wipe your sdcard though. To get it squeeky clean, you'll need to format the sdcard.
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I think he's talking more along the lines of caulkins format all zip.
Try searching for that. It formats system, data and cache.
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To be clear, you don't "need" any such zip in order to install a custom ROM. Some people believe such "Superwipe" zips are a cleaner way of doing it (and may also be useful if you are experiencing bugs after a ROM flash). But I've never used anything of the sort, and never had any issues.
Just wipe cache and Dalvik, then factory reset in recovery (do not factory reset in bootloader, as this corrupts the SD). Then flash the ROM. No need to format system, as this is done automatically when you flash the ROM.
By that logic, no need to wipe cache or dalvik either since factory reset does that. I find wiping system provides peace of mind and one thing to cross off when troubleshooting buggyness within a Rom.
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Yeah plus I'm sure I've seen ROMs that don't wipe system during the install script. I always wipe system, for peace of mind, seeing as it only takes a second.
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By that logic, no need to wipe cache or dalvik either since factory reset does that.
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Not sure, but I don't think that is true. I thought all factory reset did was format the /data partition (delete user data).
Also, wiping cache and Dalvik is completely harmless. They will just rebuild themselves when you reboot. There is literally no reason not to wipe them, in any number of circumstances. Wiping system . . . not so much.
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timmaaa said:
Yeah plus I'm sure I've seen ROMs that don't wipe system during the install script.
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I've seen this on another device, but haven't seen or heard of it on this device. Although, of course I haven't flashed every ROM available.
Sure, it typically doesn't hurt to do wipe system. Although I've seen the all-too-common instance of the n00b randomly wiping things (including system) and then asking "why won't the phone boot" (umm. . .because you wiped the OS). Thus, I normally refrain for recommending to wipe system (at least without making it clear what that actually does).
In any case, my main point is that all the required wipes are available in recovery, and no special wipe "zip" is explicitly needed (although might help in certain instances, as I've already mentioned).
Isn't dalvik kept in /cache or /data?
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Not sure, but I don't think that is true. I thought all factory reset did was format the /data partition (delete user data).
Also, wiping cache and Dalvik is completely harmless. They will just rebuild themselves when you reboot. There is literally no reason not to wipe them, in any number of circumstances. Wiping system . . . not so much.
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I'll be honest, I did use one for a while back when I used twrp. While it is kinda pointless, it is a lot faster adding it to the zip install list than going through every wipe/format option.
OT: I feel like I'm the only one using philz touch recovery. Anyone else using it? It's got a lot of nifty features.
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Isn't dalvik kept in /cache or /data?
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I had to look it up, but apparently it is on /data. So Factory Reset should in fact wipe it.
I've probably always though of Dalvik as something that should be wiped separately, since you should (at a minimum) wipe cache and Dalvik when doing a "dirty flash". Than I just do it by habit when doing a "clean" flash.
As I already mentioned, most of us will likely agree that there is no harm in wiping things that are going to be wiped anyways "just in case".
As long as you aren't one of these folks that wipes /system, then asks why his OS is gone.