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[BETA] Quizzer

Hey everyone,
a user from the android-hilfe.de forum mentioned the idea of an app that i found very interesting. I then started implementing stuff and here i want to present you the first usable beta version of the app.
It is a community quiz. You can post quiz questions, other users answer them and place their bid on their answer. At the end you close the question with the correct answer and everyone is rewarded according to their bids.
Please help beta testing that app. Please note that in this very first beta, no work has been done for layout and design. See it as a functional prototype. Although i would be very thankful for design/layout ideas, maybe some even wants to help me?
I'm really looking forward to your feedback
Here is the link to a simple beta page that i hacked together: http://quizzer-android.appspot.com
And of course the corresponding QR code:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Greets, Goddchen
PS: Added some screenshots

added some screenshots...

FC on clicking questions.
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Goddchen said:
I'm really looking forward to your feedback
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good concept for an app, will probably be pretty fun when its finished, but right now the app is extremely unstable, sometimes it just exits right after I opened it, it always force closes when it tries to load the "by date" list in the "list of questions" section. The "by potsize" list usually works though that sometimes crashes too, in addition to all that the app seems to sometimes crash at completely random times.
In running the app on the LG Optimus 2x Phone, running CM7 Nightly build 21.
ps: on the registration part of the app, you only ask for the password once, its pretty common to ask for the password twice to avoid people mistyping the password, this does't really bother me that much but when you are typing on the android virtual keyboard it pretty easy to mistype something and not notice it, before you try to login to your app account.
ps2: If you don't mind me asking, I'm a bit curious about how you store account information, do you store the email & password in plain text? or do you hash & salt them? I'm just curious because I don't like to use services that doesn't protect their user data properly.

There was a FC-bug when displaying a question without any tag. Please reinstall with the new version (same url).

I think once there are a wider range of questions it will be better (I know thatis on us, the users) .
I am also interested in knowing how my information is being stored.
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It takes time for me to make up all the false answers to make funnier quizzes.
It allowed 0 QZR for a bid.
Admob area's size need to be fixed.
Anyway, I will love it when it's all finished.

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gmail seems to categorize your emails as spam, just thought you would like to know.
oh and btw, not to be rude or anything but it would be nice if you could actually give us some kinda response to the feedback we have given you instead of just completely ignoring it.

Hey everybody,
it has been two busy days for me, unfortunately not two busy Android days... I really thank you for you feedback so far and i am excitingly reading through the notification mails as they arrive. I just didn't have the time to answer or even code on the project.
@mikael, is this really the level you want continue this conversation? I do also have a reallife besides Android, sorry. Did you ever try to get one of your cars throught german TÜV? Then you know what is was doing the past two days...
I'll get back to you guys tomorrow and answer all the questions
Goddchen

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@mikael, is this really the level you want continue this conversation? I do also have a reallife besides Android, sorry. Did you ever try to get one of your cars throught german TÜV? Then you know what is was doing the past two days...
Goddchen
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sorry, as I said it was not meant as an insult, I do understand that you probably have other non android related stuff to do, It just that when you posted a post after I posted my feedback without responding at all, it seemed like you were intentionally ignoring my feedback, but if thats not he case then sorry I misunderstood you, I'm usually a pretty nice guy so please don't get the wrong idea, I have nothing against you or anything like that.

Ok guys, here we go
Sorry that i weren't able to respond in the past two days, you already know why It was hard to find the time to fix that annoying FC bug when opening the questions list but i thought that was more important at that time then responding here since it renders the app useless.
Ok let's start
FC on clicking questions.
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Should be fixed in the current version
good concept for an app, will probably be pretty fun when its finished, but right now the app is extremely unstable, sometimes it just exits right after I opened it, it always force closes when it tries to load the "by date" list in the "list of questions" section. The "by potsize" list usually works though that sometimes crashes too, in addition to all that the app seems to sometimes crash at completely random times.
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There was an additional bug in the update code for the header of the main screen. Hopefully that is fixed now too and you won't experience those random FCs.
ps: on the registration part of the app, you only ask for the password once, its pretty common to ask for the password twice to avoid people mistyping the password, this does't really bother me that much but when you are typing on the android virtual keyboard it pretty easy to mistype something and not notice it, before you try to login to your app account.
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Good idea, will definitely integrate it
If you don't mind me asking, I'm a bit curious about how you store account information, do you store the email & password in plain text? or do you hash & salt them? I'm just curious because I don't like to use services that doesn't protect their user data properly.
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The password is hashed on your phone so that it never get's transmitted over the network in plain text and i can't see your plaintext password either. The email is stored as plaintext so that i can send you a mail if anything important is going on (like yesterdays mail about that critical bugfix). The backend of the app is hosted on GoogleAppEngine by the way. Feel free to suggest any other strategies on storing or transmitting values. The values that are stored for a user are: your activation token, an active flag, answer count, question count, key of your avatar in the gae blogstore, mail, nickname, pass (hash), and your QZRs.
It allowed 0 QZR for a bid.
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damn, thanks for the note.
Admob area's size need to be fixed.
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What do you mean?
gmail seems to categorize your emails as spam, just thought you would like to know.
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damn, will have a look at this. They arrive just fine in my gmail inbox.
And a question from my side:
I have also implement a function for sending mass in-app notifications (appear on your notification screen in the app). Which way to be informed about critical updates do you prefer? mail or in-app notification. In one of the next versions i will add an optional background service that shows incoming notification on the phone's notification bar, too.
Looking forward to read your responses Goddchen

Goddchen said:
Looking forward to read your responses Goddchen
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as for the admob thing I'm guessing what todayist meant was that when the ad placeholder was displayed in the the top of your app it was wider than the app itself which allowed you to scroll within the admob object, but this only seems to happens with the placeholder ad, real ads seems to work as they should.
as for the notification thing I don't mind getting them by email, but there are a lot of people that probably do mind that, so if I were you I'd implement some preference thing that allowed a user to choose between email notifications and in app notifications.
I also have a couple of questions/feature requests:
first of all I think it would be nice it the person that has created a question would be able to actually see what people have answered on the question, that would be useful information to see whether or not the question was to hard or too easy.
in addition I'm wondering how you are going to stop people from screwing around with the questions, because as it is right now, you rely on the people creating questions to actually include and choose the right answer, somebody could easily screw people by simply choosing the wrong answer as the right answer, doing that could probably also be used cheat.
I also think that when a question is closed the users that answered on that question should be able to see what the right answer was, maybe you could even add a "report wrong answer" button that, if enough people pressed it would make a mod check whether the answer was actually correct, and if it wan't the people answering on the question should be refunded the game money that they bet on the question.
I know that would probably be a bit complicated but it would decrease the problem of people cheating by choosing the wrong answer as the right answer.
in addition to all that I have a question, its pretty obvious that acquiring QZRs is pretty important in this game (you even plan to allow people to buy QZRs using paypal and in-app purchase) but my question is, what is the point of the QZRs right now they can only be used to place bets, do you plan on adding some kind of store or reward stuff that can only be bught/unlocked by using QZR?

as for the admob thing I'm guessing what todayist meant was that when the ad placeholder was displayed in the the top of your app it was wider than the app itself which allowed you to scroll within the admob object, but this only seems to happens with the placeholder ad, real ads seems to work as they should.
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strange i have set a max height now so that this shouldn't happen again
as for the notification thing I don't mind getting them by email, but there are a lot of people that probably do mind that, so if I were you I'd implement some preference thing that allowed a user to choose between email notifications and in app notifications.
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In latest dev version a setting has been added to the profile to choose between notification/mail/both
I also have a couple of questions/feature requests:
first of all I think it would be nice it the person that has created a question would be able to actually see what people have answered on the question, that would be useful information to see whether or not the question was to hard or too easy.
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available in beta2 a pie chart with the answers and their counts
in addition I'm wondering how you are going to stop people from screwing around with the questions, because as it is right now, you rely on the people creating questions to actually include and choose the right answer, somebody could easily screw people by simply choosing the wrong answer as the right answer, doing that could probably also be used cheat.
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Good point. But to solve this? Forcing the set the correct answer on question creation? Any other ideas?
I also think that when a question is closed the users that answered on that question should be able to see what the right answer was, maybe you could even add a "report wrong answer" button that, if enough people pressed it would make a mod check whether the answer was actually correct, and if it wan't the people answering on the question should be refunded the game money that they bet on the question.
I know that would probably be a bit complicated but it would decrease the problem of people cheating by choosing the wrong answer as the right answer.
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displaying the correct answer on closed questions is available in beta2. I'm working on the report button
in addition to all that I have a question, its pretty obvious that acquiring QZRs is pretty important in this game (you even plan to allow people to buy QZRs using paypal and in-app purchase) but my question is, what is the point of the QZRs right now they can only be used to place bets, do you plan on adding some kind of store or reward stuff that can only be bught/unlocked by using QZR?
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Not sure how to do it exactly but in the future i'd like to give users additional benefits for their QZRs besides being on top of the leaderboard. Any ideas how to do it?
I really wanna thank you for your feedback. It has helped me a lot in the development for beta2. And i will make sure that most if not all of it will be available in beta3
Goddchen

Goddchen said:
I really wanna thank you for your feedback. It has helped me a lot in the development for beta2. And i will make sure that most if not all of it will be available in beta3
Goddchen
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no problem
I do actually have some feedback about beta2 as well, primarily its seems like a good update, but there are still some things that bother me, first of all, after the beta2 update one of my questions seems to have become corrupted somehow.
The question I'm referring to is the "is the official name of android 3.1 icecream sandwich" question that I created under the user name mikael. The question has 2 answers, "True" and "False", but after the beta2 update my question now has 3 answers according to the pi-chart, the new option that suddenly appeared was "" in other word an empty string, currently 1 person has answered True, one has answered False, and 6 has answered "", which confused me since "" is not actually something you can select when you answer the question.
But I figured that out when I tried to close the answer, if I try to close the answer while the False otpion is selected the confirmation dialgue asks if I want to select "null" as the correct answer, the same happens if I try to select True as an answer, in other words both the true and the false answer point to the null string, which means that If anyone anwered the question after this bug occured their answer would be registered as null, instead of the option they actually selected, which expalins why 6 people apperantly answered "null". I have no idea what caused that bug, but I'm guessing its a database issue of some kind, so it something you will have to take a look at.
other than that I have another complaint, and I know that this is intentional but I think that allowing questions to stay live infinitely until they are closed is a bad idea, primarily because a lot of the questions seems to have been abandoned completely which means that everybody that answered on those questions basically just threw their game money away.
I think there should some time limit to when you have to close your question, something like 1 week or perhaps one month if you think that one week is too short. I have currently answered 7 questions on your app but only 2 of them has been closed, the other questions seem to have been abandoned by the question creator.
other than that though the app seems pretty good, I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into this app and I hope I don't put too much work on your shoulders with all of my complaints, questions and feature requests.

no problem
I do actually have some feedback about beta2 as well, primarily its seems like a good update, but there are still some things that bother me, first of all, after the beta2 update one of my questions seems to have become corrupted somehow.
The question I'm referring to is the "is the official name of android 3.1 icecream sandwich" question that I created under the user name mikael. The question has 2 answers, "True" and "False", but after the beta2 update my question now has 3 answers according to the pi-chart, the new option that suddenly appeared was "" in other word an empty string, currently 1 person has answered True, one has answered False, and 6 has answered "", which confused me since "" is not actually something you can select when you answer the question.
But I figured that out when I tried to close the answer, if I try to close the answer while the False otpion is selected the confirmation dialgue asks if I want to select "null" as the correct answer, the same happens if I try to select True as an answer, in other words both the true and the false answer point to the null string, which means that If anyone anwered the question after this bug occured their answer would be registered as null, instead of the option they actually selected, which expalins why 6 people apperantly answered "null". I have no idea what caused that bug, but I'm guessing its a database issue of some kind, so it something you will have to take a look at.
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That bug got introduced in beta2 and fixed in beta2.1 update. I'm really sorry.
other than that I have another complaint, and I know that this is intentional but I think that allowing questions to stay live infinitely until they are closed is a bad idea, primarily because a lot of the questions seems to have been abandoned completely which means that everybody that answered on those questions basically just threw their game money away.
I think there should some time limit to when you have to close your question, something like 1 week or perhaps one month if you think that one week is too short. I have currently answered 7 questions on your app but only 2 of them has been closed, the other questions seem to have been abandoned by the question creator.
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Yeah that really is a big problem that is bothering me for days now. beta3 (which will be released today) introduces the 3 other limit types (days, date, answers). Those will be fine and exactly what you are explaining. I am unsure if i should keep the unlimited option in the app. Do you think it would be a good idea to remove it completely?
other than that though the app seems pretty good, I really appreciate the hard work you are putting into this app and I hope I don't put too much work on your shoulders with all of my complaints, questions and feature requests.
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You are not putting too much work on my shoulders. I am happy about every feedback that i can get. Keep up giving me work!
Goddchen

Yesterday i was thinking about how to make the release to the market. I want the beta testers to have a bonus for their work and help. So this is what i have come up with for a possible release to the android market:
Reset all beta tester accounts
Give all beta tester accounts 50 bonus QZRs
Remove all answers from all questions
Keep the questions so that there are some initial release questions
Make those questions owned by my account so that abandoned questions won't be a problem.
Do you have any suggestions to this?
Goddchen

Just uploaded beta3
http://quizzer-android.appspot.com/

Goddchen said:
Yesterday i was thinking about how to make the release to the market. I want the beta testers to have a bonus for their work and help. So this is what i have come up with for a possible release to the android market:
Reset all beta tester accounts
Give all beta tester accounts 50 bonus QZRs
Remove all answers from all questions
Keep the questions so that there are some initial release questions
Make those questions owned by my account so that abandoned questions won't be a problem.
Do you have any suggestions to this?
Goddchen
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sounds pretty good to me, but if you are expecting a lot of new users and questions after making the app available on the market then wouldn't it be a good idea to get some extra moderators to moderate the questions? Maybe you should pick some of the beta testers to be mods. thats your choice though, other than that I can't think of anything else to do before you put the app on the market.
oh and btw I am still receiving "null" answers on some of my questions which probably means that there are still someone who use the old app, would it be possible to somehow block "null" answers on the server side, so that so that people who still use the old version would not be able to submit answers without updating the app.

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sounds pretty good to me, but if you are expecting a lot of new users and questions after making the app available on the market then wouldn't it be a good idea to get some extra moderators to moderate the questions? Maybe you should pick some of the beta testers to be mods. thats your choice though, other than that I can't think of anything else to do before you put the app on the market.
oh and btw I am still receiving "null" answers on some of my questions which probably means that there are still someone who use the old app, would it be possible to somehow block "null" answers on the server side, so that so that people who still use the old version would not be able to submit answers without updating the app.
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Good point, i just pushed the update to the server, "" is now not allowed anymore.
Good point with the moderators. I can use any help Anyone interested?
Greets, Goddchen

Goddchen said:
Good point, i just pushed the update to the server, "" is now not allowed anymore.
Good point with the moderators. I can use any help Anyone interested?
Greets, Goddchen
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I wouldn't mind helping you I have plenty of free time and as you have probably noticed I'm a pretty tech-savy guy, so I think I would be a pretty good moderator.

How Can I Contact Microsoft's Mango Project?

i want to send microsoft's mango team an email advocating the feature of text wrap in mango when you zoom in in internet explorer. what's the best way to contact them about this?
also, if anyone lwants this feature in mango, add your names to this thread so we can add greater voice and support for this feature, thanks.
note to moderators: this is a double post intended to reach a greater audience in this forum for support of this feature. please do not delete. thank you!

maybe tweet them @wp7dev -
I will have to do this myself, as this is important to me. Also, I supposed I will include a need to swipe away cards to close an app in multi-tasking. That makes more sense than not being able to do it at all in that view.

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maybe tweet them @wp7dev -
I will have to do this myself, as this is important to me. Also, I supposed I will include a need to swipe away cards to close an app in multi-tasking. That makes more sense than not being able to do it at all in that view.
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hi, tiny.. thanks for getting to me. i dont have twitter, so i cant tweet them. is there a better and more effective way of contacting them?

Not that I personally know of, but I tweeted them about the same issue - if that is any consolation. However, the more, the merrier. Then again, maybe it would be more fruitful to ask one of these people with the beta to see if it is present in their build of IE9 - as to see if the devs need to be bothered at all.

On topic please.....
The OP is asking for contact details, not which features you would like to see in Mango.
If you have no intentions of answering the question then your in the wrong place.
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Occupy Wall Street needs you help developing an app

Developers at XDA.
I’m sure many of you have heard of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Over the past week I’ve become involved and have determined that there is a need that could most efficiently be met through technology and since I know little of developing I’m looking for some assistance.
Here is the problem:
Protesters are not allowed to communicate with a PA system. This means that when we try to organize we need to scream everything out to each other and pass the message along. As you can image, in the game of telephone things get distorted and misunderstood. We need some way to relay messages to anyone who needs it quickly.
Solution:
I believe that an app would be the best way to facilitate this. While there could be updates online, that’s slow and requires people who want to post something online to go to the blog. It also means that we would have to constantly check. It also means that someone would have to type long messages in through a touch screen. Not efficient.
My Idea is for the app comes from seeing the app Coco voice for the iphone. It’s a service where you can speak into your phone and like a text message it sends that vocal message to said recipient. Now if you took that same kind of recording idea, and instead of sending it directly to a phone number, uploaded it to a main server and people subscribed to that specific “group” (or what have you) would receive a push notification about a new message. Then everyone would be able to get important information about what’s happening, what we’re doing. And especially where to avoid clashes with police. A text element for quick messages would also be great.
What’s in it for you:
1) You’d be helping a movement that hopefully you believe in.
2) The use of this application could go far beyond just this movement. It’s sort of vocal tweeting phone to phone. Subscribe to a group and be informed. People could record a cut of a song and send it directly or just say hello to all your loved ones at once while on vacation. This is a legitimate idea that has widespread application.
3) This will quickly become one of the more downloaded apps. There were 15-20,000 people at the NYC protest last night. The protests are also sprouting up in over 10 different cities across the US. Then there will be people that just want to know what happening. An immediate wide audience to launch the application and gain publicity.
4) You will get mad props
Is there anyone out there who is willing to put in some time in helping to develop an application to help facilitate communication among protesters? This would have to be a free app at least until the protests are over. Preferably it would be both iOs and android compatible. Please let me know so we can talk through some ideas, specifics, timelines, and what not.
Also let me know if you think this is possible or not. Or if you have any other good ideas. Let’s get this moving.
ps - let's try to keep this from getting political. We do not need to argue about the protest here. If you are interested great help out, if not then just move on to the next thread. Thanks in advance.

LoL. Really? What are you end goals? What do you want changed? Who makes the rules?

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ps - let's try to keep this from getting political. We do not need to argue about the protest here. If you are interested great help out, if not then just move on to the next thread. Thanks in advance.
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LoL. Really? What are you end goals? What do you want changed? Who makes the rules?
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Did you miss that part?

Russ T. Nail said:
Developers at XDA.
I’m sure many of you have heard of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Over the past week I’ve become involved and have determined that there is a need that could most efficiently be met through technology and since I know little of developing I’m looking for some assistance.
Here is the problem:
Protesters are not allowed to communicate with a PA system. This means that when we try to organize we need to scream everything out to each other and pass the message along. As you can image, in the game of telephone things get distorted and misunderstood. We need some way to relay messages to anyone who needs it quickly.
Solution:
I believe that an app would be the best way to facilitate this. While there could be updates online, that’s slow and requires people who want to post something online to go to the blog. It also means that we would have to constantly check. It also means that someone would have to type long messages in through a touch screen. Not efficient.
My Idea is for the app comes from seeing the app Coco voice for the iphone. It’s a service where you can speak into your phone and like a text message it sends that vocal message to said recipient. Now if you took that same kind of recording idea, and instead of sending it directly to a phone number, uploaded it to a main server and people subscribed to that specific “group” (or what have you) would receive a push notification about a new message. Then everyone would be able to get important information about what’s happening, what we’re doing. And especially where to avoid clashes with police. A text element for quick messages would also be great.
What’s in it for you:
1) You’d be helping a movement that hopefully you believe in.
2) The use of this application could go far beyond just this movement. It’s sort of vocal tweeting phone to phone. Subscribe to a group and be informed. People could record a cut of a song and send it directly or just say hello to all your loved ones at once while on vacation. This is a legitimate idea that has widespread application.
3) This will quickly become one of the more downloaded apps. There were 15-20,000 people at the NYC protest last night. The protests are also sprouting up in over 10 different cities across the US. Then there will be people that just want to know what happening. An immediate wide audience to launch the application and gain publicity.
4) You will get mad props
Is there anyone out there who is willing to put in some time in helping to develop an application to help facilitate communication among protesters? This would have to be a free app at least until the protests are over. Preferably it would be both iOs and android compatible. Please let me know so we can talk through some ideas, specifics, timelines, and what not.
Also let me know if you think this is possible or not. Or if you have any other good ideas. Let’s get this moving.
ps - let's try to keep this from getting political. We do not need to argue about the protest here. If you are interested great help out, if not then just move on to the next thread. Thanks in advance.
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What about a tweeter like app? But instead of status updates in text they are mp3s or wav files
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What about a tweeter like app? But instead of status updates in text they are mp3s or wav files
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I think that would work as well. Definitely open to suggestions that might make this easier for developers. Ant interest?

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LoL. Really? What are you end goals? What do you want changed? Who makes the rules?
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I would love to talk to you about this, but this is not the right place for that discussion. Pm me if you actually have interest, I have real answers. I just know this forum was not made for this purpose so I won't do it here.

It would be very honorable for some Devs to spend a little bit of time on this. I could see this app on headlines. Would be a good way for some Dev to get exposure too.
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Time to change things up

One of the problems I have with today's texting apps is that they are all essentially the same. Sure emoticons and group conversations are fun, but there is limited flexibility with what you can and can not do. For example, why can't we customize text layouts, embed youtube videos into our conversations, etc.
I came up with a solution by creating a basic, elementary texting app without any of the perks. What I want to do is get as much feed back as possible to build out the texting app that people want to use. Once users see that we take their ideas and implement them into the app, they will be more excited to share it with their friends.
So if anyone is interested in creating their own app, download Skoop Messenger in google play and let me know what you think. Check out the Skoop Messenger Facebook page for details.

Not sure I understand what you are proposing
that isn't already handled by email and/or IM?

looks a lot like the other sms/text apps out there already. not sure whats different.

There's a very good reason that they're all essentially the same and that's because of the age old saying -
If it's not broke, don't fix it!
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With generic things like texting, the majority of people don't like change. Texting on phones is nice and simple and if too many features are added, texting will become much harder work than it needs to be.
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I would like to see a talk to text app that actually works good, with the option to talk letters instead of words, another option would be like Xbox 360 where you can leave a voice message or video message, all in the same app, Maybe a way to customize and use a graphic signature instead of a text signature. Changing font of texts or colors, stuff like that I can see being used. Maybe having some music in the background when you are reading or have a text message open. A translater built in to the app, so if someone sends you a message in Chinese, you can press a button and the text then converts in english. Just throwing some ideas out there.
I don't buy into that " if it a broke dont fix it" Where would we be today if we did not constantly look to improve things? Probably in a cave beating each other over the heads with clubs and worshipping fire. This thread was started becuase someone asked for ideas on improving text messaging and all the responses have been anti-productive. Use your imagination people.

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I don't buy into that " if it a broke dont fix it" Where would we be today if we did not constantly look to improve things? Probably in a cave beating each other over the heads with clubs and worshipping fire. This thread was started becuase someone asked for ideas on improving text messaging and all the responses have been anti-productive. Use your imagination people.
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Mine wasn't anti-productive. It was truthful.
Off-topic - Even if we were still cave people, would that really be a problem? Of course not, because we'd be used to that. Yeah, mankind strides to improve things, but at lot of the time, the situation with this thread included, it's not needed.
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Relax guys.
I have to agree with both. If it's not broken in any way, why fix it - it might cause problems there weren't there in the first place. The main reason something is popiular is because it works. But then again, there's always room for improvement/innovation, right? I mean, that's how we got our devices now.
On topic: i can't find the app.
Sorry for butting in. It's just my opinion.

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Mine wasn't anti-productive. It was truthful.
Off-topic - Even if we were still cave people, would that really be a problem? Of course not, because we'd be used to that. Yeah, mankind strides to improve things, but at lot of the time, the situation with this thread included, it's not needed.
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It is not in our nature to be satisfied with something just because it works, lol. Did not meen to take this thread in a different direction just wanted see some creativity. :angel:

[APP][2.3+] Is Keymonk the fastest smartphone keyboard ever?

Hi all,
One fine evening a while back,
I was sitting under an Android tree when suddenly a device hit me straight on the head.
And then it hit me (again):
People tap type with two fingers but sweep with a single finger.
How would it be like to sweep words with two fingers?
It was a terrible itch, and I just had to scratch it,
and so the Keymonk keyboard came to be.
And let me tell you, it is AMAZING...
In 2010 Samsung and Swype made headlines around the world when
Melissa Thompson used a Swype powered device to set the word record for fastest SMS at 26 seconds.
In this video, sloppy fingered me, sweep through the same notorious SMS in 18 seconds:
Does it look weird?
Give it a try: http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keymonk.latin
And let me know what you think about it.
Better yet, tell your friends!
UPDATE (Oct 26) - Here is a great FAQ created by polstein to summarize this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33278012&postcount=192

I have been using it for a while and let me tell you, it is AWESOME!

Are you the developer of Keymonk? I actually use the paid version, but the way you've been pimping it in various threads all over XDA today makes me kinda want to stop using it to be honest
How about you stop being a bit underhanded and make a proper thread here on XDA so that users can give you feedback and make requests, etc.

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Are you the developer of Keymonk? I actually use the paid version, but the way you've been pimping it in various threads all over XDA today makes me kinda want to stop using it to be honest
How about you stop being a bit underhanded and make a proper thread here on XDA so that users can give you feedback and make requests, etc.
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Pretty much that.
On 7 posts made, 6 are pushing Keymonk. Can't see any users loving a software that much.

OP is the dev of the Keymonk keyboard. I suggested that he open a thread about it & ask for some feedback. He kind of went overboard because he wanted to post his youtube video & you need to have 5 or 10 (?) posts to be able to put up the link.
(Sorry about that, probably my fault)
On the keyboard itself:
I've been using the keyboard for a while. It's like he mentioned - Swype with 2 fingers. I switched a lot from Sliding keyboards to a 2-finger keyboard thumb typing keyboard because while I always love the sliding type of keyboard (going back to the Shark keyboard!) I always disliked using just 1 finger on them.
This is a try at being best of both worlds - 2 finger sliding.
I think it was intended for landscape screen originally, so that your fingers don't bump in the middle, but I use it in portrait with few collisions. Actually, one suggestion made was to offer a split keyboard to avoid the collisions all-together.
A couple people I've shown it to were concerned with it being too complicated, since you have to keep track of both thumbs. I haven't had this problem any more then typing with 2 thumbs.
All I can say, is give the free one a shot & let him know what you think (or just post here).

I'll post my comments here and if you/he/we want to move it elsewhere, let me know.
I've used the free version on and off for quite a while and just decided to purchase it. I like it! But it can be really frustrating when the keyboard doesn't recognize my swipes. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes the keyboard just says "try again" (or something like that). It would be really helpful if there were some way for me to find out what I've done wrong so I can modify my behavior. I have NO idea how the app could do this. Maybe letting me tap the message to get an explanation of some sort?
There also seem to be occasions where I've tricked the keyboard into thinking it shouldn't capitalize the next word. I haven't figured out a true pattern yet but I've noticed that it happens when I've entered several new lines in a row, in the Gmail app, for instance, to leave a couple of blank lines.
I'm a big fan of Swype and am becoming a much bigger fan of Keymonk

oh, let me try
currently on touchpal beta
edit: just tried, quite promising and super fast to type long keywords.. just some collisions as suggested above... and prediction needs improvement.

awesome keyboard I think am going to buy it
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Are you the developer of Keymonk? I actually use the paid version, but the way you've been pimping it in various threads all over XDA today makes me kinda want to stop using it to be honest
How about you stop being a bit underhanded and make a proper thread here on XDA so that users can give you feedback and make requests, etc.
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Just for the record, that bit of text of yours reads like bullying.
Don't do that again, please.
A new member on XDA can only post a link to Youtube or Google Play after making several initial posts.
XDA only makes this request: "But please, please don’t post junk just to get your post count up!"
I thought it was reasonable and ethical to respond in context to discussions about keyboards.
I thought it was understood that I am the developer,
but in case it wasn't clear I did develop Keymonk,
I apologize to you all.
As for this post, try reading it again.
It believe is perfectly clear from it that I am the developer.

Giving this a go now. Fantastic! Great work.
What's the difference between the paid version and the free version?
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It doesn't happen too often but sometimes the keyboard just says "try again" (or something like that). It would be really helpful if there were some way for me to find out what I've done wrong so I can modify my behavior. I have NO idea how the app could do this. Maybe letting me tap the message to get an explanation of some sort?
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I haven't seen the try again thing too much. The keyboard does show the trace lines, have you happened to notice when you hit the try again how badly you missed (if you missed at all?)
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Giving this a go now. Fantastic! Great work.
What's the difference between the paid version and the free version?
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I *think* the only difference is the pro ones lets you add words to the custom dictionary. (and supports the dev!) Might be others that I just haven't used.

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I've used the free version on and off for quite a while and just decided to purchase it. I like it! But it can be really frustrating when the keyboard doesn't recognize my swipes. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes the keyboard just says "try again" (or something like that). It would be really helpful if there were some way for me to find out what I've done wrong so I can modify my behavior
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I will think about it. Maybe there are events in which I can detect there was a problem.
What device are you using?
In some devices the multi-touch screen does not always work properly.
Try to notice if the circles flicker while you sweep your fingers.
Another common problem occurs if you bump your fingers together.
This may confuse the touch screen and prevent the keyboard from detecting your intention.
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There also seem to be occasions where I've tricked the keyboard into thinking it shouldn't capitalize the next word. I haven't figured out a true pattern yet but I've noticed that it happens when I've entered several new lines in a row, in the Gmail app, for instance, to leave a couple of blank lines.
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In Keymonk, auto capitalization works like tapping the shift once.
It will reset back to lower case after the next tap.
This is why after tapping the Enter key several times it resets back to lower case.

nirai said:
Just for the record, that bit of text of yours reads like bullying.
Don't do that again, please.
A new member on XDA can only post a link to Youtube or Google Play after making several initial posts.
XDA only makes this request: "But please, please don’t post junk just to get your post count up!"
I thought it was reasonable and ethical to respond in context to discussions about keyboards.
I thought it was understood that I am the developer,
but in case it wasn't clear I did develop Keymonk,
I apologize to you all.
As for this post, try reading it again.
It believe is perfectly clear from it that I am the developer.
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See the irony is that I'm actually really glad you're on XDA as I like Keymonk, and as I said, have purchased it. The feedback from the users of this community will, hopefully, be valuable to helping you iron out the minor kinks in it.
The only thing I didn't like was the manner of your initial posts, and voiced my opinion about them (and two others actually agreed with me).
As I said, very glad to have you aboard Monkey Man and very much look forward to seeing how the development of Keymonk progresses :good:

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As I said, very glad to have you aboard Monkey Man and very much look forward to seeing how the development of Keymonk progresses :good:
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Cool :good:

What a coincidence, I've just discovered Keymonk in the Play Store. A keyboard junkie myself who types in various languages, I think the concept is pure genius and its actual incarnation in Keymonk is nice and will hopefully get even better over the next months.
The highlights:
- I love the two-handed combination of swiping and tapping. It takes some getting used to, but I think it has enormous potential, particularly on today's bigger screens.
- I love the way you can select a character from the numbers/symbols plane with a simple swipe.
My biggest gripes after a few hundred words:
1. In languages with lots of compounds (like German), you need a way of inputting unknown compound words (having all of them in your dictionary is unrealistic) by swiping the various parts one after another. Like: Zeitgeist -> Zeit + Geist. What you need is a command to start the next word without a space and in lower case. In Swype you do that by swiping from the Space key to the Backspace key (a symbol on the space bar shows you've activated no-space mode). So, you swipe Zeit, then you swipe from the space bar to the backspace key and then swipe Geist, and you get Zeitgeist.
An alternative would be a command to glue the last word to the penultimate one (ie. after the fact as it were rather than before the fact as with Swype). So you swipe Zeit, then Geist, and then swipe a command to convert Zeit Geist to Zeitgeist. Not sure how easy and reliable this kind of postediting would be, but if it worked, I would even prefer it to Swype's method.
2. If I append characters to a previously typed word (often enough inadvertently) and then want to delete it, a left swipe from the Backspace key deletes the entire thing rather than the appended part only. Swype (or was it Swiftkey) does it better by keeping track of edits and only deleting the last part. After #1, this was the biggest cause for lost time in my tests.
3. There are no predictions while typing, only a frustrating "..." (OK, alternative forms for the last typed key are offered, e.g ä for a, which is a nifty idea). Why is that? I thought predictions for the current word (if not for the next) were standard.
4. A long-press must give you some sort of popup with alternative forms (eg. e -> é, è, ê etc.). Different keyboards implement the actual act of choosing among the alternatives differently, but this again is standard, and for a reason. Keymonk itself demonstrates the usefulness of this concept with the excellent popup on long-pressing the full stop key.
I am delighted to see a newcomer that can actually challenge the giants of the category, and I'd love to see it getting even better soon.
Lebenita

I couldn't agree more to what was said above!
because this keyboard really has loads of potential...
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Dodgylegs said:
Giving this a go now. Fantastic! Great work.
What's the difference between the paid version and the free version?
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The full version can add new words to the user dictionary (while the free version can only read the user dictionary).
In addition the full version unlocks the settings page.
In particular it lets you activate auto-spaces after punctuations marks.
My favorite feature in the full version is being able to hide the list of suggestions.
After a bit of practice, you get the right words most of the time and don't really need it anymore.
The extra space you get for the editor view in landscape mode is significant.
You can see how that looks like in the video.

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I think the concept is pure genius and its actual incarnation in Keymonk is nice
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Yay!
I love the way you can select a character from the numbers/symbols plane with a simple swipe.
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You can also sweep from the 123 key to the ALT key and then to a symbol from the ALT keyboard.
or you can hold the 123/ALT keys while you tap symbols with the other finger and it will return to QWERTY when you are done.
In languages with lots of compounds (like German), you need a way of inputting unknown compound words (having all of them in your dictionary is unrealistic) by swiping the various parts one after another. Like: Zeitgeist -> Zeit + Geist.
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I will think about that, thanks for the heads up!
If I append characters to a previously typed word (often enough inadvertently) and then want to delete it, a left swipe from the Backspace key deletes the entire thing rather than the appended part only.
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I will think about that too.
There are no predictions while typing, only a frustrating "..." (OK, alternative forms for the last typed key are offered, e.g ä for a, which is a nifty idea). Why is that? I thought predictions for the current word (if not for the next) were standard.
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Well, I believe predictions are a distraction and encourage slow typing, and are not useful when typing at 40 words per minute or faster.
A long-press must give you some sort of popup with alternative forms (eg. e -> é, è, ê etc.). Different keyboards implement the actual act of choosing among the alternatives differently, but this again is standard, and for a reason.
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I think this will not work well in Keymonk since a user is likely to hold down a key while thinking what to do with the other finger, especially when just starting to use the keyboard.
In addition, I do not like long press key functionality for letters.
I think it is quicker to tap a letter and then tap its alternative form in the suggestions list.
Thank you for your feedback!

Going to give this a look! Always looking for a faster way to type!

how do add dictionary other than english and the one provided