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Couple of questions on the Wing - - Need an answer asap

Hey guys first of all let me say that I love the wing. I already installed TotalCommander, Battery Status, Overclock, and a couple of other useful programs.
I have been viewing several different forums for Themes / Layouts. I installed a 6 button homescreen, a 5 button homescreen, and even the I-Phone theme. All of them installed and were operating, however, the 5 / 6 button layouts were buggy and never shifted screens once I opened up the keyboard. The Iphone theme was cool but only stretched to about 75 % of the wing's screen.
Anyways does anyone have a theme that works well and has easy access to contacts, SMS, email, weather, and other useful options without being buggy and will shift once I slide out a keyboard? Most of all does it look good? I installed that black HTC layout and its pretty cool but it doesn't add any buttons to the home screen which is what I see everyone running.
Another question I have is does anyone know of a good way to stop the Wing from dialing when its holstered? I made like 5 accidental calls yesterday and it was eating away at my minutes lol. I've heard autolock is a good option but it takes away a lot of memory and slows the wing down.
Also feel free to post any cool extra addons that you might know about !

well, since your questions are more about ppcs than the wing, i can help you
you can lock your phone with Device Lock, its on this forum, use search
It allows you to lock your phone wiht a push of a button so you dont make any calls you dont want. And even allows it to lock on wake and run a program if you want, i got it to run Oxios Hibernate, it frees up ram
As far as themes, the iphone theme is one of the only full fledged themes for these types of phones, if you want something else, check out plugins, the HTC Home Plug is a start, it has tabs and easy links to favorite ppl, programs, weather, and messaging, missed calls, and emails

Slide 2 Unlock bar only?

Hey guys,
I love the slide2unlock app. It's much less fiddly than the standard lock app, and it lets me play music with the device asleep. Winner.
The only thing that annoys me is the rest of the interface that it comes bundled with. I like turning my phone on and seeing my today screen at a glimpse.
I'd prefer if either:
1. The rest of the app disappeared, so only the bar remained, thus covering only the bottom bit of my screen; or
2. the whole app was transparent so I could see my today screen; or
3. It'd be AWESOME if someone could make the bar into a today screen plugin! If I had the technical knowhowI'd certainly give it a stab!
Any ideas anyone?

mike freegan said:
Hey guys,
I love the slide2unlock app. It's much less fiddly than the standard lock app, and it lets me play music with the device asleep. Winner.
The only thing that annoys me is the rest of the interface that it comes bundled with. I like turning my phone on and seeing my today screen at a glimpse.
I'd prefer if either:
1. The rest of the app disappeared, so only the bar remained, thus covering only the bottom bit of my screen; or
2. the whole app was transparent so I could see my today screen; or
3. It'd be AWESOME if someone could make the bar into a today screen plugin! If I had the technical knowhowI'd certainly give it a stab!
Any ideas anyone?
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i would love to see this as well

As would I, prefer just to see the home screen/widgets I've spend ages tweaking rather than the duplicated S2U2 version of battery and appointments etc.

Lets see some today screens

Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.

hspda
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic

yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude

sammypwns said:
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic
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There is a registry setting you can use. I'm not sure of the exact details. Try searching around.
Or, you can flash romeos where it is already enabled.

yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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Hi,
Could you be most specific on what you used? I like the tf3d buttons. Lots of stuff out there and I have yet to run into it.
Thanks
Edit: Simply Black!

venom037 said:
another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude
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It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.

yzf750 said:
It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.
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thanks dude, ur a star... back to ur origional post as it seems it totally went off topic... I use the stock ROM and don't use the TF3D as it drains battery. In theory its great but my peeve is that in the TF3D, I cannot see multiple calander entries. What I mean is I use SPB Diary and I can see my appointmets up to 31 days in advance and that is more useful to me... therefore I use the standard WM screen but installed SPB Time, Diary, and Phone Suite.
thanks

Today Screen Question
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks

cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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After running all the well know perfomance tweaks off the forums here I really dont notice too much slowdown over the att theme. I notice maybe a 1 second delay on the touch flo screen from the time the tab is picked and let go until it loads the content of the screen. I can live with that.
Lots of freeware screen capture programs that do the basic job ok, I just stuck Screen Capture v1.1 off some ppc freeware site to snap it. I dont really need a fancy program for that It puts a bmp or jpg in your "documents" folder on the ppc then.

cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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1. I'm using one of the black themes and it only takes about 2-3 seconds for the people to come up. (A second or two slower than AT&T but not too bad.)
2. Try My Mobiler at www.mymobiler.com

My Touch Pro HomeScreen Vista Mobile
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....

wow...cool!

How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?

nucentury08 said:
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....
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i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?

Still using ATT Theme, with tweaks
I tried using full theme from diamond threads, but they make my tf3d crawl, even with every tweak I've found. I found some threads that make it easy to change things, like add clock - icons - and then get rid of top and bottom curtains. Just used old fashioned today theme .tsk black to change top and bottom bar, and added wallpaper in tf3d settings, although right now that picture doesn't carry over to the other tabs, mun has a program to do that but it kills my clock to all zeros all the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2877234#post2877234
chrome clock and icons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436301
tools to alter screen without using full theme change (be careful on fuze background in every tab kills my clock)

Here is my current

Vista ui
Thresher said:
How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol

asadkhan1988 said:
i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol

Is Touch Flo3D silly junk?

I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me

Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.

its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once

As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur

Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.

I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.

It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.

I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good

Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times

Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.

I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.

Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.

James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.

kareem9nba said:
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?

jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.

TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.

Gigs said:
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.

dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.

ababrekar said:
Care to share those kareem?
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today

classic look

Hi everyone
I have my HD2 and i have to say it is superb.
I have looked everywhere and i cannot see any mods to give the HD2 a classic look on the homescreen. i.e remove the program shorcuts from beneath the clock and enable the old program tab along the bottom.
The large screen is so superb and it is a bit too busy and hides the magnificence of a great wallpaper.
also it would be nice if everyone put in one thread all the personalisation mods that work for them from the HD as well as new ones.
I have tried several of them that used to work on my cooked HD roms but now do not on my HD2.
Thinks like tranparent clocks and i would love to have a transparent top taskbar leaving just the icons floating and bottom bar where the menu and phone shorcuts are with out having to install complete theme chager which tweak too many things.
If anyone can help that would be great

go to settings click menu click more than there is a option home screen
there u can ad your classic stuf and dissable htc sence or enable new WM 6.5 home screen. i hope u can find it
grz.

Settings> Today> Items - remove hooks with "HTC Sense"

I think he's asking for a more TouchFLO look, rather than a Sense UI.
I think you're gonna have to wait a while mate. A lot of the customisations that we thought of as normal on the HD simply aren't available yet on the HD2.
I was the same - my HD was modded like mad, but the HD2 is more like it was out of the box. It took a while, but I'm now very used to the Sense UI, and would feel lost without the functionality that I've gained from that extra clutter.
Have a look at the Sense tweaks and mods thread. That has some good stuff in it, but not as much as you're looking for, yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415

Thanks guys for taking the time to reply to me.
Xinyo i couldnt quite follow your instructions
and Soverign 35 that dosent work either.
However JohnC your are exactly right. It is the classic touch flo look that i am looking for. i would love to have the option to remove the program shorcuts from the homescreen and have the program tab back along the bottom and practically everthing transparent on the home screen.
Maybe htc could give us the option of the classic touchflo look or the htc sense look. in the next rom update. in the mean time all tweaks would be welcome

Just want the classic look on the HD2 too
I have two problems that stop me getting what I want which I ran on my TyTn II perfectly well. HTC in their infinite wisdom have removed the SMS entries from messaging and thus from the messaging today screen plugin. Secondly as they have also removed the task bar options I cannot set either get it in the top right hand corner of the screen or set the X button to close apps rather than just minimise them. Any ideas how I can re-enable these please?
I am more than happy to disable the cluttered SenseUI nonsense. Having SenseUI as an option is one thing, having it forced on you as a result of not being able to do things in the standard interface because HTC have removed them is another. The whole point of Windows Mobile is it's customisability and HTC have managed to break this!