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Cell Phone Programming Classes

hey guys,
i've been looking online this morning for classes where i can learn how to do cell phone programming and modification. i haven't had much luck though. most of the results either bring me back to XDA or a similar website, or they take me to a site that is just trying to sell me something that is cell phone or computer related. so i guess my question is: what exactly is this field or line of work called? i've been looking under computer programming, cell phone programming, cell phone modification, smart phone programming, and smart phone modification, all with "classes" at the end, of course. can someone help me out with this? i know it probably sounds like a dumb question, but i'm just having no luck bring back any "course related" results in my search. like i said, it just produces results for websites like this one, o retail websites. i'd love to get into this field of work. i have been customizing my phone (HTC Tilt/Kaiser/Tytn, etc) which i have an extra one of to test on thanks to my lovely wife, and i have been enjoying it very much. trying new ROMs, making some feeble attempts at cooking ROMs, and checking out all the software that is available for my phone. i have been enjoying it so much that i would like to take some courses on the subject and start a carreer in this field! my wife can't seem to drag me away from the computer, and when she does, i've got my phone. we figure that if i like it this much, i should take some courses and get paid to do this kind of stuff 8 hours a day. then it wouldn't take up quite so much time at home. anyway, i'm rambling now, so if anyone could give me some more ideas on what exactly to search for or what this line of work is called, it would aid me in trying to find a place locally that offers some classes on the subject. thank you in advance for any help that you folks can provide me with. by the way, i'm in the DFW (TX, US) area, if any local folks happen to be reading and could point me in the right direction. for the moment, i'm interested in campus classes or online classes, doesn't make much difference at the moment. i would like to see what each has to offer for the time being, and money will be an issue, as things are pretty tight right now financially. Thanks again!
Chris

Hi,
I think you will need to learn by searching and looking. These videos will help you http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/bb495180.aspx

Classes for small electronics / cellphone programming
Hi my name is Mark and I am a technical manager at SuperRey's Exotics and my team and myself inlcuded have studied at Stevens Tech in Hoboken, N.J. not sure how serious and how far away you are but Stevens has an extensive technology program, really indepth in fact many large corporations like Sharp, Apple, HTC, Exxon, Motorola and many others hire techs directly from Stevens Tech. However at Stevens it is really indepth stuff and they work on, not only new invetions but many patents actually come from the technology that Stevens does. I hope this helped you a little. And at SuperRey's we apply that knowledge for new inventions, cell phone repair and reprogramming and all kind of crazy stuff that we do, if your into it you will have alot of fun with that kind of technology. Good luck.

[Q] What do I need to know if I was going to work for a company like Google?

My dream is to open up my own company and design my own mobile os and to make smart phones. Working for Google like designing things would be cool too. I am heading off to college this fall and I need some help picking a major. What major would I need to go into to do things like this. Please help me. Also i have a term paper and I have to write how to achieve my dream job, so if you can answer quick that would help thanks in advance! btw I signed up for electrical engineering - is that good?

Firstly, ud need to know the name of the company
Google is the company, android is their mobile os flagship.

I don't think electrical engineering will help much as a major, but having an understanding of that stuff will help. But definitely look into computer science, software engineering, and pretty much anything computer related, especially things like systems engineering, and for phone development, you will DEFINITELY want to look into anything involving embedded systems.
You will need experience programming software and firmware, so programming courses are a must, so take as many of those as you can.
The most important thing you can do, though, is find books and resources for yourself and teach yourself as much as possible outside of school. A lot of courses revolve around a specific subset of material and may not discuss the topics that interest you. That, of course, will depend on your school's curriculum requirements and the professor teaching the class.
Whatever you do, though, make sure it is enjoyable to you and that you aren't just settling for something easy or convenient.

From a tech vet at Google:
http://dondodge.typepad.com/the_nex...oogle-interview-questions-hiring-process.html

G-Tab and Developers and Responders ALL

It needs to be said. I'm in my late seventies and had lost a lot of my interest in computer technology and was a bit lazy and lax about it all and then I got the ViewSonic G-Tablet.
Thanks to all the information and step by step procedures shown here on xda-developers (and the terrific videos available on YouTube), it never even entered my thoughts that I was tossing my warranty away on this unknown territory that was the G-Tablet, and still I made change after change and went through the pain of learning this totally new Android way of looking at things. I've finally settled in for the moment with VEGAn-TAB 7.0. But I really enjoyed the process in getting there.
What a fun and marvelous journey. I've read all kinds of complaints and a few accolades about the G-Tab and the journey, but for me it has been a real jolt (a joyful one) into this new computer technology ahead for us and it has been a joy to see an Operating System out there other than Windows making an impact. And I especially appreciate the opportunity to experiment and create the platform I want, rather than being stuck with something handed to me.
I'm having a great time and THANKS TO YOU ALL for making it possible. And thanks as well for letting me toss my few cents in every so often about things I'm learning. Getting old is becoming rather a pleasure nowadays.

When I was a kid my old man gave me crap about "wasting so much time on computers" now that he's been retired for a while he realizes there are so many things to learn about technology and computing he's been spending more time online than I do.
It all comes down to time really, the devices themselves aren't really that expensive it's the time to read, research, experiment and implement that takes time, being retired or having free time means you have an advantage.

[Q] any devs got time?

i would like to know if there are any devs out there who would mind maybe sending me any links that would better inform me as to how all this stuff works. i am intrigued with all the stuff you guys come out with and would love to be enlightened a little more on how it is put together. basically i want most of the things im reading about to make more sense to me.

I am not sure what kind of information you're looking for exactly. Your question is rather vague. However, here is an overall generic reply without further details to go on.
http://google.com
that's how i learn. seriously. if you want someone to hold your hand through it, go buy a book on software development or make friends with someone locally that's a computer scientist (or related field) and buy them some beers. If you're more interested in the theming of things, that doesn't take quite as to figure out, but would require some basic design knowlege or sources on how to aquire things if you cant design them. There's quite a few books out for android alone now if you look on amazon. I know o'reilly makes a good one.
I really dont think someone giving you a few quick links will get you very far from my own experience of teaching others. I've tutored a friend on software development and it can be a slow painful process to relate it to someone that has little to no background at first until it starts to "click" (some people it just never clicks because well, not everyone is cut out to do this stuff). After about a year, they finally had a decent grasp on how to develop, but it's something that takes years to really say "you're good" at it (unless you just make doing basic hacking and not really adding to things, that can be accomplished quicker).
Software development and hacking of already made software is something you generally learn best by experience (your own experience more so than others). Short of that, formal courses taught by a decent professor at a university will lay a foundation, but doesn't mean much if you do not add to it with your own bricks.
This is really overall a question you should ask in the general XDA forums or go to somewhere like stackoverflow.com (or their more mobile focused site, http://android.stackexchange.com/) and look for people who have already asked similar questions there. Have you tried to at least do a basic google search for something like android tutorials? If you cant show a little motivation and inspiration on your own, don't hold your breath for someone wanting to mentor you for free since no one wants to explicitly tell you everything all the time, it gets kind of annoying to have to lay things out always when common sense should at least take over sometimes. I know that last statement sounded a little harsh and blunt (and dont take it personally, I just want you to be realistic about it), but it's pretty true.
I think it's great you want to learn and are willing, but I don't think the answers you want can be answered in a thread discussion alone. Your best bet if you cant search for relevant information on the web on your own is to get start by buying a book as I mentioned or take some courses at a university or community college just on basic programming (language and os [so long as it's something linux/unix] doesn't matter so much as just getting the info). If you're too young for college courses, see if your schoool as an AP computer science course or something similar. I don't think anyone who is doing actual development on android got their start on android alone (by development I mean actually writing code, not theming or ripping a few small things out of already made code). It comes from building up and relating basic computer science concepts you carry over.
If you want to build applications for android and hack around on applications already made, learn Java.
If you want to learn how android os works and mod, develop and patch it, learn c and c++.
If you want to mod themes and make your own. Learn how to use a graphic design app like gimp, photoshop, etc and learn the structure of xml documents.
There are other languages that work on android as well (as well as web applications which language no longer matters), but those work on every android enabled device without addons/overhead.
In short though, there are no quick answers and no encompassing solution and any books you see that say "learn x in 24 hours or whatever" are full of s*it.

yareally said:
I am not sure what kind of information you're looking for exactly. Your question is rather vague. However, here is an overall generic reply without further details to go on.
http://google.com
that's how i learn. seriously. if you want someone to hold your hand through it, go buy a book on software development or make friends with someone locally that's a computer scientist (or related field) and buy them some beers. If you're more interested in the theming of things, that doesn't take quite as to figure out, but would require some basic design knowlege or sources on how to aquire things if you cant design them. There's quite a few books out for android alone now if you look on amazon. I know o'reilly makes a good one.
I really dont think someone giving you a few quick links will get you very far from my own experience of teaching others. I've tutored a friend on software development and it can be a slow painful process to relate it to someone that has little to no background at first until it starts to "click" (some people it just never clicks because well, not everyone is cut out to do this stuff). After about a year, they finally had a decent grasp on how to develop, but it's something that takes years to really say "you're good" at it (unless you just make doing basic hacking and not really adding to things, that can be accomplished quicker).
Software development and hacking of already made software is something you generally learn best by experience (your own experience more so than others). Short of that, formal courses taught by a decent professor at a university will lay a foundation, but doesn't mean much if you do not add to it with your own bricks.
This is really overall a question you should ask in the general XDA forums or go to somewhere like stackoverflow.com (or their more mobile focused site, http://android.stackexchange.com/) and look for people who have already asked similar questions there. Have you tried to at least do a basic google search for something like android tutorials? If you cant show a little motivation and inspiration on your own, don't hold your breath for someone wanting to mentor you for free since no one wants to explicitly tell you everything all the time, it gets kind of annoying to have to lay things out always when common sense should at least take over sometimes. I know that last statement sounded a little harsh and blunt (and dont take it personally, I just want you to be realistic about it), but it's pretty true.
I think it's great you want to learn and are willing, but I don't think the answers you want can be answered in a thread discussion alone. Your best bet if you cant search for relevant information on the web on your own is to get start by buying a book as I mentioned or take some courses at a university or community college just on basic programming (language and os [so long as it's something linux/unix] doesn't matter so much as just getting the info). If you're too young for college courses, see if your schoool as an AP computer science course or something similar. I don't think anyone who is doing actual development on android got their start on android alone (by development I mean actually writing code, not theming or ripping a few small things out of already made code). It comes from building up and relating basic computer science concepts you carry over.
If you want to build applications for android and hack around on applications already made, learn Java.
If you want to learn how android os works and mod, develop and patch it, learn c and c++.
If you want to mod themes and make your own. Learn how to use a graphic design app like gimp, photoshop, etc and learn the structure of xml documents.
There are other languages that work on android as well (as well as web applications which language no longer matters), but those work on every android enabled device without addons/overhead.
In short though, there are no quick answers and no encompassing solution and any books you see that say "learn x in 24 hours or whatever" are full of s*it.
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very detailed answer, refered him to google like everyone else would have but done in a great way

Thanks
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Tips tricks for learning java?

I'm starting to watch a tutorial series on YouTube. Since xda is full of developers is there devs willing to throw in some wisdom/experiences/links/books/sample code/ whatever you think is beneficial? Long term goal is to make an android app of some kind. For now I'm learning the basics. Moral support is welcome since I'm pretty doing this on my own!
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jerrygooch said:
I'm starting to watch a tutorial series on YouTube. Since xda is full of developers is there devs willing to throw in some wisdom/experiences/links/books/sample code/ whatever you think is beneficial? Long term goal is to make an android app of some kind. For now I'm learning the basics. Moral support is welcome since I'm pretty doing this on my own!
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I am not a developer nor am I an expert but I have transitioned from a Java beginner to an advanced programmer in just a few months. I say "advanced" only because my college course instructor told me. However, I don't consider myself that advanced until I get a good amount of programming experience writing my own applications I feel confident enough to distribute. I have written a few personal apps including some Android ones but nothing I deem worthy enough to put on the market. Sadly, I learned more from the internet and a couple of Java books than I ever did in my college courses.
Some of the Youtube tutorials I have follwed are by mybringback and thenewboston. They both go from the most basic to more advanced levels of Java and both contain some decent tutorials on Android app development too. Although their methods are somewhat unorthodox and their commentary takes some getting used to, they do try to explain things in a way that's easy to comprehend.
As far as Java books, the only ones I bought are Learn Java in 24 Hrs sixth edition with a bonus Writing Android Apps chapter and Java Demystified and of course the book used for my advanced Java course -- strangely enough published in 2004. I suggest learning what you can online since internet information is updated much sooner and more often than physical books. As far as Android books, well, these can become outdated shortly after you purchase them. The last Android book I bought was when Gingerbread was all the rage. I suggest you don't waste your money on those books and just stick to internet tutorials.
Finally, I would steer you toward coderanch.com where you can get all of your Java questions answered by professionals and advanced users alike; there is even a forum catered to android development.
Java can be confusing and overwhelming for beginners, but don't give up because what confused you the day before will make total sense a few days later and hopefully that motivates you to further your knowledge; there will always be a need for programmers and developers.
I hope that helps and good luck on your programming journey.