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So...I have a contact named Iris. I pin Iris to the home page. Fine. Now when I go into her contact I have the option to link her to another. Fine. I link her to David. I back out to the homepage. WTF?...Iris is now David?..Ok what and why has my Iris "pane" changed to David? I dont understand this. Not only that but if i search my contacts for Iris that name no longer shows up.
Very odd and I really hate this.
Is there a solution?
Hi,
I use the link option only to join together 2 entries in my contact list for 1 person.
For example, I have a friend in my contacts called Jim but his facebook contact name is James, i can link these 2 together to have just 1 entry in my contact list. I think I know what your trying to do - mabye link together a husband and wife or something, I'm not sure if you can do that?
If you unlink your contact you should get both back.
Hope this makes sense.
Hi there,
The link contacts feature is more for linking the same contact but from different sources together.
Say you have Iris on Exchange, the same Iris on FB but with slightly different info including differing email addresses, and say you have the same Iris (but spelt Irisss) in Live. The Link feature enables you to join all these sources together in one view.
Please remember though that this is a "view" and not a single physical contact. All three contacts will remain as they are in their respective areas in the cloud. There is no auto update or merging of data. I've asked this question on another forum and as yet, no response.
dov74 said:
If you unlink your contact you should get both back.
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Our posts sort of crossed and I forgot to put in what you mentioned above
Yeah! I think yours makes more sense tho lol!
I understand what you guys are saying but if u select links from your contact it suggests names that you should link to...which results in the original contact name disappearing
harsaphes said:
I understand what you guys are saying but if u select links from your contact it suggests names that you should link to...which results in the original contact name disappearing
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They are only suggestions and you don't have to link to those. You can continue to search for them.
Funnily enough..... I have a contact for myself on the phone for when you could send your details as a BT transfer or over SMS. Used to use that alot. I'm also on Facebook, but the phone only shows my contact on the phone not the FB contact as well to link too. In fact I cant search for my self either lol.
chubnut said:
They are only suggestions and you don't have to link to those. You can continue to search for them.
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Yes I know you can search for anyone but what I'm pointing out is that it presents itself as being able to link to separate contacts and that when you do that the original contact "disapears". The way it presents itself isn't the way it works.
it does not disappear only one of the contacts would be showed and the other contacts details is merged in the contact you linked in.
If you want Iris to show than first unlink the contacts and then select David and link Iris...
No it doesn't disappear but if you search for that contact name it doesn't show up any longer.
chubnut said:
Funnily enough..... I have a contact for myself on the phone for when you could send your details as a BT transfer or over SMS. Used to use that alot.
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Is there any way at all to send contact info to a third person via vcard, sms or anything? No cut and paste either - so, do we really have to write it down on paper, then enter it into an sms?
harsaphes said:
Yes I know you can search for anyone but what I'm pointing out is that it presents itself as being able to link to separate contacts and that when you do that the original contact "disapears". The way it presents itself isn't the way it works.
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You're missing the point.
The suggestions are there because the OS thinks that the contacts are the same person. This might be because of similar name, similar E-mail or whatever. Personally it has never suggested the wrong people before.
The original contact doesn't disappear, linking is done to link accounts of the same person together. The reason why your original person "disappeared" was because you linked 2 people together who weren't the same person.
I have an exchange account that I linked with my Tab and I have been looking for the contact's birth date... which I haven't found in the contact application
Probably haven't looked at the right place. Can someone help me and tell me where it can be found ?
Than you
Anyone has the same issue ?
Alcibiade said:
Anyone has the same issue ?
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Do you press the "More" button at the bottom of the contact info?
If it's not showing up automatically then Exchange may not be synchronising that information. If that's the case I'm not sure how you'd force it to do so.
knightnz said:
Do you press the "More" button at the bottom of the contact info?
If it's not showing up automatically then Exchange may not be synchronising that information. If that's the case I'm not sure how you'd force it to do so.
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Of course I checked.... Exchange can synchronize birthdays on Outlook, pocket outlook, and some other softwares. From what I read around it seems Android doenst support this
Can you believe it ? The dumbest of my previous dumb phones support birthdays. My WM device did. And Android doesn't ? Honestly I am getting closer and closer to a deal breaker. A contact app without birthdays ? What's next ? A Phone without a dialer... ? I hope it;s not true
I have to check Touchdown, maybe it's available there...
Alcibiade said:
I have an exchange account that I linked with my Tab and I have been looking for the contact's birth date... which I haven't found in the contact application
Probably haven't looked at the right place. Can someone help me and tell me where it can be found ?
Than you
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You can define the birth date in the contact's device and then you can link that contact to your exchange's contact.
heru said:
You can define the birth date in the contact's device and then you can link that contact to your exchange's contact.
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Seriously... that sucks...
I have around 1,200 contacts... This is ridiculous... Android is still not ready for prime time in its v2.2
Anybody can advise an alternative contact app that can replace the original one and allows to see the birthday field ? (And modify it...)
I heard MIUI ROM allows it so maybe there is a way to extract its contact app (?)
Actually I may give "Go contacts" a try
Anybody has tried and can compare with Samsung's contact manager ?
Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
two00lbwaster said:
Hi there,
My first post here, although I've hung out, anonymously, looking at the resources within the forum.
Today I received my Nexus 5. It's a lovely bit of hardware, but I've come from an HTC phone (4.1.1 Desire X) and I love the Sense UI; just so you know, I hate stock 4.4 thus my post below is in utter exasperation
I'm having an issue with trying to send an SMS. Unfortunately, I have to use Hangouts (I refused to update from Google Talk on the Desire X) and I'm finding that I can't sending a frigging SMS to a colleague at work because I have his Gmail email address as part of his contact details!!!
This is absolutely the most retarded thing in a Phone OS that I have come across, ever. Unfortunately, as an early adopter of this phone, I'm stuck without an alternative. So far as I can see, in Hangouts, I would have to type in the phone number manually whilst being logged out of my Gmail accounts in Hangouts to send an SMS, or maybe deleting the user's email address would suffice.
Am I missing some way of sending an SMS that's not completely obvious here?
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This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
koriflame said:
My N5 arrives tomorrow, so I can't be much help with the app itself, but if it's really confusing/awful you can download an alternative SMS app from the play store and set it as your default.
Edit: I hear you on hating hangouts. I cant stand the version they have on 4.0/4.1/4.2/4.3, been sticking with talk also.
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Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
two00lbwaster said:
Seems to be the downside of having the device nice and early, noone else has one to confirm the issue.
Unfortunately, the other apps don't seem to work as they have to be rebuilt due to the changes that 4.4 has introduced
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I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
Vincent Law said:
I don't have it in my hands yet to test, but I'm fairly sure once you've opened the "new hangout" window, you can tap on their name on the upper left and switch to SMS from Hangout message.
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I'll have a look to see if that works.
KinghtMare. said:
This app simply uses the word "Hangouts" over "SMS" so basically new hangout means new text message unless you specify a hangout chat. If the actual hangouts for either is unavailable then a text message will be automatically sent to the number. New "SMS" is the plus button and you can immediately type the number or scroll to find your contact. Everything after seems to work just like iMessage.
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I've never had an iPhone, which I'm guessing from the name is where that messaging application comes from. I tried to send a message to a collegue, and it sent it as a hangout, not an SMS. There is no option not to send it as an hangout, any more so than there is an option to send the message as a hangout, so I can't send him text messages.
davekr said:
I'm not sure what problem you are having. I just got my N5 today and when I create a new message in Hangouts and choose a contact (one that has a gmail.com email address as well as a cell number) I have the choice between starting a chat or sending an SMS to the phone number. Do you not see this?
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Okay, yes, if I type in the person's name I now see several entries for the person, one is the Hangouts account which is top and the other is for SMS.
However, if I scroll down and select the person as I was doing originally, even though it says his phone number, it defaults to hangouts and you can't change it.
I don't have particularly many people in my contacts list so I prefer to scroll and select, as it's probably quicker for me, rather than type into the search box.
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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n7of9 said:
you need to verify your phone number before being able to use it for sms
hit the plus button and add a contact...then select the contact's name from the top of the screen (next to the green handouts icon), and choose their phone number instead of their email address
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Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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It's not hangout it's u
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digweed4me said:
It's not hangout it's u
If u don't know how to use hangout tell google to put out I message crap on your nexus 5
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two00lbwaster said:
Quite aside from not wishing to verify my number with Google, I shouldn't have to. SMS should be completely devoid of this kind of requirement as it is very basic mobile phone functionality.
I have spent quite some considerable time today turning off location services and and any data sent back to Google. I've also been disabling certain Google Apps and would disable more if it would let me. I've also found that App Ops seems to have been disabled too, so I can't even control what third party apps do; which was part of the reason for getting a 4.3+ phone.
At the moment, it seems that I can send messages, and hopefully something like Contacts+ will be updated to work with 4.4 and I can then disable Hangouts.
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So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
n7of9 said:
you can disable hangouts now, you just need to install an alternative sms app if you don't like the default...try Handcent
and don't be angry when someone is trying to help you
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Sorry, I'm just angry that Google have just foisted the Hangouts app onto 4.4 users when it clearly isn't user friendly enough and makes one of my most common uses of the phone difficult.
I'll try Handcent. Contacts+/Messages+ doesn't currently seem to support 4.4 as you can't set it as the default messaging application and you can't send outgoing messages (It looks like you can send messages but they just disappear and aren't sent.)
hotleadsingerguy said:
So install your own SMS app...4.4 allows you to use any SMS app as the default App, and then you can even uninstall Hangouts if you want to.
That's the beauty of a Nexus device.
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The issue that I'm having is that not a lot of messaging applications support 4.4 yet. And as I've found with Messages+ if it doesn't support it you can have issues with messages that don't send/disappear.
You can uninstall Hangouts updates, you can't uninstall it. And if you uninstall the updates, you can't disable it.
Sliding messaging was updated to be compatible with 4.4, you can try it out
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I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
Scottland said:
I'm with the OP on this, I received my N5 today and it's almost impossible to start a new SMS conversation from within the app.
The app itelf is quite nice, but the SMS experience is sub-standard to say the least. I know I can go install another SMS app - but that's not the point, it's like shipping the phone/software with no dialer in it.
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I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
Im confused and whether i understand your question properly. Anyways in the actual recipients message you can click their name and switch from a SMS conversation to a google talk/hangouts message. Not sure if that helped or not. You can more clearly see what i am talking about in this video. http://youtu.be/0ZFc3NFqfFk
BmoreTHOR said:
I must be a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon or something... all I had to do to create to new SMS was click the "+" then start typing my contact's name or number. If my contact has a phone number associated with it I can select that for an SMS or their email for a hangout message......
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You must be
I've just tried to send an SMS to my mum, on her contact card she has a mobile number and email address. When I try to send a message, at the top I only have "Hangouts" as an option.
If I try another contact (who does have a G+ account), I have the option of SMS or Hangouts.
I also discovered Now SMS recently... Very nice looking simple UI that fits with recent Android conventions. Using it on my Nexus 7 3G since it didn't come with any SMS client.
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Two questions really.
If I knew where to get a manual (can't find one anywhere) I'd not need to ask the first question:
OK, I've received an SMS which I want to forward to someone that isn't in my phonebook. I can hold-press the message and select 'forward', but instead of being able to put the number in to send it to, Hangouts pops up (which is the ****tiest text app I've ever seen, btw) and makes me select a contact. Because there is no contact for this number, I tried creating a new one (although I don't want a contact for this number) but when I put the number in, it won't let me save it; I've tried pressing enter but nothing happens. This is the single most frustrating thing I've found with KitKat so far.
In fact, I have another question:
Can anyone recommend a decent SMS app? Really, hangouts is truly awful.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512414
DirkGently said:
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512414
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Thanks, Dirk. I appreciate it.
EDIT: Sweet, MMS.apk appears to do everything I need and nothing I don't. Have a thank you point
So, I posted this on a google forum and had a look across XDA in general, but either the silence is deafening, very few people have noticed (or care) or no one has an answer?
It's bugging me, so I'm hoping someone here might know or at least offer some suggestions..
Trying to use Voice Search to create and send an SMS message to one of my contacts exposed really weird behavior in Android...
** Contacts set up correctly with properly formatted phone numbers and defaults set. I'm in the UK but often travel so want to set up numbers
for people in the standard format e.g. +44 7973 XX XX XX
** I can dial the number exactly as formatted and the call goes through
** I can send an SMS from Hangouts.. BUT when I select a contact and their number appears as an option to SMS to.. the "leading" +44 (country code) gets
stripped out by Hangouts and a "0" is added in (to be compliant with the format for dialing within a country I guess).
So +44 7973 XX XX XX appears as 07973 XX XX XX - and this works fine!
** When using Voice search to create and send an SMS however, the number that appears on screen that it's trying to send to is the *exact* number
from the phone book - that is, the country code is NOT stripped out - so different from how the hangouts app displays it.. and the message fails to
send as a result.
So, it seems as though Google deliberately re-format the phone number for SMS when you do it through Hangouts, but not when you use Voice
(even though that message does get sent through Hangouts ultimately?)
The only solution I can think of, is to go through and remove the +Country Code prefix from all of my contacts, to ensure
that SMS via Voice Search will work consistently... What's going on?!?!? Anyone got any ideas ? Its not an obvious bug, but its definitely there..
Anyone?!
jms_uk said:
Anyone?!
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I can't talk about hangouts because I don't use it, nor voice.... but +44 should not fail to send SMS. All my frequently contacted contacts are +44 and send fine, without being changed or stripped out.
Please wait 24 hours before bumping threads
rootSU said:
I can't talk about hangouts because I don't use it, nor voice.... but +44 should not fail to send SMS. All my frequently contacted contacts are +44 and send fine, without being changed or stripped out.
Please wait 24 hours before bumping threads
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Sorry, will do in future. But thank you for replying
I agree with you that having +44 in the number shouldn't fail when sending SMS, but Hangouts definitely re-formats the number and I have to wonder
if it does that for a reason. Does the number displayed on the SMS app you do use, display the full number then when compared against the same
number in your contacts?
I'm going to install something like Handcent and see what that does (of course all bets are off ifthe app re-formats the number "internally" but displays
the unchanged number to the user). The only reason I've noticed this odd behaviour is because Hangouts makes it reasonably obvious that something
is going on.
jms_uk said:
Sorry, will do in future. But thank you for replying
I agree with you that having +44 in the number shouldn't fail when sending SMS, but Hangouts definitely re-formats the number and I have to wonder
if it does that for a reason. Does the number displayed on the SMS app you do use, display the full number then when compared against the same
number in your contacts?
I'm going to install something like Handcent and see what that does (of course all bets are off ifthe app re-formats the number "internally" but displays
the unchanged number to the user). The only reason I've noticed this odd behaviour is because Hangouts makes it reasonably obvious that something
is going on.
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Yes the number in the default messaging app displays the same as in contacts and dialer. In full with +44 7*
It's been a while since I used KitKat stock, but does it not have the standard messaging app included, that lets you change to that? Lollipop does.
rootSU said:
Yes the number in the default messaging app displays the same as in contacts and dialer. In full with +44 7*
It's been a while since I used KitKat stock, but does it not have the standard messaging app included, that lets you change to that? Lollipop does.
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Yeah, I tried Handcent SMS, that didn't modify the number either and the SMS sent just fine. I guess why Hangouts modifies the number
for SMS when other apps don't, is for some mysterious reason Google has cooked up.
However, the "problem" is most definitely with the implementation of Voice Search for creating SMS (I only fell onto this thing because I wanted to - more safely -
send/reply to the occasional SMS whilst driving). Basically, it doesn't matter what SMS app is set as default.. creating a message and sending
by Voice Search just won't work if the number in your contacts has a +44 in it.. from the testing I've done anyway. The moment I edit the number
against the contact to just have an 0 (and re-sync Google Contacts), Voice Search created SMS's work...
(Also, whatever SMS app is the default always appears as an "Open Message in XXXX" after the Voice Search created SMS has been sent. If you click on it,
it takes you into the app but you can't see the most recently sent message in the message thread if the number is +44)
Perhaps you could give it a go with a +44 contact "Ok Google, Send text to XXXXX, Message, YYYYYY" ??
..aaaaand, I'm done. Any thoughts?
jms_uk said:
Perhaps you could give it a go with a +44 contact "Ok Google, Send text to XXXXX, Message, YYYYYY" ??
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Say's sent, but when I open the messaging app, there is a Red triangle... When I open the existing message thread, it only shows THAT failed message. When I delete that message, the rest of the thread becomes available.
So yeah I guess it fails the same way
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Say's sent, but when I open the messaging app, there is a Red triangle... When I open the existing message thread, it only shows THAT failed message. When I delete that message, the rest of the thread becomes available.
So yeah I guess it fails the same way
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Ahh.. so I'm not going crazy! Wonder how long that's been broken?
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Ahh.. so I'm not going crazy! Wonder how long that's been broken?
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Dunno but I'm using the latest Lollipop preview released last week or two...
By the sounds of things.. for some time then if you're on Lollipop. I guess people either don't use Voice for that much (at all?), or haven't put two and two together enough for it to be something that's made its way back to Google to add to their fixes
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By the sounds of things.. for some time then if you're on Lollipop. I guess people either don't use Voice for that much (at all?), or haven't put two and two together enough for it to be something that's made its way back to Google to add to their fixes
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...or only have nationally formatted numbers instead of international...
True. Though out of curiousity I'd love to know why Hangouts does do a number re-format.. as a completely separate thing..
Not sure if this is related as I am UK based like you (so not really sure what it is) but google voice doesn't send texts to international numbers. I wonder if google now has some voice aspects built in and if hangouts is configured to allow sending through voice if you're subsribed? Hence the number changing? and possibly failures?
Manually sending SMS messages using a 3rd party app to numbers formatted for international dialing works. Going "via Google" be it using Voice Search or Hangouts, only works with internal numbers...
I think you might be onto something... :|
jms_uk said:
Manually sending SMS messages using a 3rd party app to numbers formatted for international dialing works. Going "via Google" be it using Voice Search or Hangouts, only works with internal numbers...
I think you might be onto something... :|
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Yeah there may be a link...
But the stock messaging app built in (you have a choice of hangouts or sms) also works as desired...
rootSU said:
Yeah there may be a link...
But the stock messaging app built in (you have a choice of hangouts or sms) also works as desired...
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Good to know.. but not when creating and sending SMS via Voice Search (so far I think we've established that unless contact numbers are reformatted and re-synced to omit the +44 and reinstate the 0, then
it can't be used for SMS)
jms_uk said:
Good to know.. but not when creating and sending SMS via Voice Search (so far I think we've established that unless contact numbers are reformatted and re-synced to omit the +44 and reinstate the 0, then
it can't be used for SMS)
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Correct.
Manual through Stock SMS > +44 > OK
Manual through Hangouts > Convert to 0 > OK
Voice Command through anything > +44 > FAIL
Thanks for being a sounding board. Guess there's nowt left that can be done
rootSU said:
Correct.
Manual through Stock SMS > +44 > OK
Manual through Hangouts > Convert to 0 > OK
Voice Command through anything > +44 > FAIL
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..and to close things out, I received an auto-generated sms from my network saying..
"Yesterday you sent a message to an invalid number. UK mobile numbers start with 07 or +447. Numbers starting with 447 without the leading + are invalid"
So that pretty much confirms that whatever mechanism Voice Search uses to try and send texts is broken and doesn't/can't parse the + in a contact's phonenumber
where as the SMS apps do (probably due to the reasons you posted above)