My HTC Droid Incredible has had one problem since the start. The mobile data will drop out, and then reconnect. It happens quite frequently. The reconnect takes about 5-20 seconds.
I've done the *228 option 2 route already, that didn't fix it. Reboots don't fix it. Now I'm wondering if a new baseband, a new kernel, or a new radio would help. This is where I have the question. I have no idea what any of those 3 things are, or what they are responsible for on my phone.
What is a baseband?
What is a radio?
What is a kernel?
Which one would be upgraded/downgraded to get a signal that locks/better signal?
Which version should I get?
I don't want to do anything until I know exactly what these things do, and what to get.
The only thing I know at the moment is that kernels have something to do with power management. Certain kernels work better with certain roms. As to why, I'm not sure. I just do what the developers say.
As I've said, this has happened since I first got my incredible. I'm on my 2nd one (first one went through the washing machine), and the first one had this problem too.
I've tried searching for this problem since June. I keep finding similar problems, but not quite the problem I have. I just want the mobile data to stay connected. Rom changes do not help the problem.
So, can anybody educate me on what those things are/what they do?
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I am having an odd problem with my 2 inspires. I have a bone stock one and a rooted running the beast right now( I am positive its not the rom). What happens is during a longer call, aprox over 10min, the phone will just act as though its muted even though its not. I can hear the person but they cannot hear me. The mute button is not checked nor the hold. I can normally get it back by putting the person on hold and then unhold, but not always. Also the bone stock one will do this and then immediately call the person back of which I was talking to.
I have flashed most of the roms and a bunch of radios. They all do the same thing. Its not the network because I have a dumbphone and an aria that I use to test and neither one have done this, same sim card,location and other variable of which I can control. I have even tried enabling and disabling the hac and dual mic deal in the build prop with no success. The stock one I have left alone, its running the 6.30 radio as is the rooted one at this time. the rooted phone is from close to launch and the stock one is a couple weeks old.
I am at a loss. I am not someone who returns stuff, but this is getting me pissed. I can live with the little "issues" the phone has but its a phone first and foremost. I am hoping one of you guys have a suggestion as to what to try. Thanks in advance guys/gals. I did many searches but came up dry, is my luck just that bad with this phone? Maybe a conflict with the network and the inspire? I also travel for work from middle florida to south florida and it does it in every county I visit. I have not tried to run it on edge only, but I dont know if this is a good idea or not.
By know means am I an expert, does your phone heat up during this time? Just a thought. After 5 or 10min of conversation does it feel unnecessarily warm?
stickbo said:
I am having an odd problem with my 2 inspires. I have a bone stock one and a rooted running the beast right now( I am positive its not the rom). What happens is during a longer call, aprox over 10min, the phone will just act as though its muted even though its not. I can hear the person but they cannot hear me. The mute button is not checked nor the hold. I can normally get it back by putting the person on hold and then unhold, but not always. Also the bone stock one will do this and then immediately call the person back of which I was talking to.
I have flashed most of the roms and a bunch of radios. They all do the same thing. Its not the network because I have a dumbphone and an aria that I use to test and neither one have done this, same sim card,location and other variable of which I can control. I have even tried enabling and disabling the hac and dual mic deal in the build prop with no success. The stock one I have left alone, its running the 6.30 radio as is the rooted one at this time. the rooted phone is from close to launch and the stock one is a couple weeks old.
I am at a loss. I am not someone who returns stuff, but this is getting me pissed. I can live with the little "issues" the phone has but its a phone first and foremost. I am hoping one of you guys have a suggestion as to what to try. Thanks in advance guys/gals. I did many searches but came up dry, is my luck just that bad with this phone? Maybe a conflict with the network and the inspire? I also travel for work from middle florida to south florida and it does it in every county I visit. I have not tried to run it on edge only, but I dont know if this is a good idea or not.
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So...you're having this issue on 2 phones, one rooted and one not. If we look at this logically, it has to be something common to both phones. The only common thing to both phones in this situation is the AT&T network. Do you think it could be an AT&T problem in your area? Did both phones just start doing this out of the blue?
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So...you're having this issue on 2 phones, one rooted and one not. If we look at this logically, it has to be something common to both phones. The only common thing to both phones in this situation is the AT&T network. Do you think it could be an AT&T problem in your area? Did both phones just start doing this out of the blue?
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That's how I was looking at it, too. Common denominator.
Or, the longshot odds of both phones being from the same manufacturer production batch, which was faulty.... Highly unlikely.
Scott_S said:
That's how I was looking at it, too. Common denominator.
Or, the longshot odds of both phones being from the same manufacturer production batch, which was faulty.... Highly unlikely.
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If the OP bought them at the same time it's entirely possible however.
helushune said:
If the OP bought them at the same time it's entirely possible however.
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I think he specifies that one was obtained close to release and the other was obtained in May...so highly unlikely it is a bad lot/build problem.
Yeah I am honestly thinking its a conflict with the network and the hspa+ phone or something. Its so damned annoying. The other phones I have to test with are just hspda phones, no faux g and they work great, same Sims.?
In a 15 minute call it did it 3 times last night. My friends now know to just wait it out and not hang up if they hear me go silent, sad.
Oh and the phone does not get hot.
I am gonna try to disable 3g and see what happens. I really appreciate the feedback guys.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
ok, so i have this thing for a lil over a month now i think maybe more....
but i have noticed that no matter what Rom or Kernel, even Stock.
if im in an area where i lose signal.....it may NEVER come back unless i reboot my phone. not a big deal in most cases but unless i look to check i may have no network for a couple hours before i notice that i have to reboot my phone. which means i get no calls and no text.
is there a fix for this or is this just something that i am experiencing??
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ok, so i have this thing for a lil over a month now i think maybe more....
but i have noticed that no matter what Rom or Kernel, even Stock.
if im in an area where i lose signal.....it may NEVER come back unless i reboot my phone. not a big deal in most cases but unless i look to check i may have no network for a couple hours before i notice that i have to reboot my phone. which means i get no calls and no text.
is there a fix for this or is this just something that i am experiencing??
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that is strange that it does not auto-reconnect. my suggestion would be to try a different modem than the one that you have been using, if you have not already tried all 3. find them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173704
both odin and cwm flashable versions. maybe you'll have better luck with signal with a different modem, so that your signal doesn't drop completely at all.
on my SD card i have had all three modems for a while now that i had been flashing to see which one i would stick with. but my phone has been doing this since day one. on any rom or kernel or modem. i just wanted to know has anyone else seen this or is this just specific to my phone........
at that point i would be looking to get another one.
the2rrell said:
on my SD card i have had all three modems for a while now that i had been flashing to see which one i would stick with. but my phone has been doing this since day one. on any rom or kernel or modem. i just wanted to know has anyone else seen this or is this just specific to my phone........
at that point i would be looking to get another one.
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you may not have to reboot - have you tried just toggling airplane mode on and then back off? that restores data when it goes out for a lot of people.
if you've tried that, and it doesn't work... not sure what to tell you, except to exchange the phone.
i rarely ever have a strong signal - usually worse than -100 dbm, especially at my house - but i've never had the problem you are describing.
hope you get it worked out. maybe contact at&t or samsung for support also, while you are on the stock ROM.
So far the airplane thing seems to work. so i will ride with that, it doesnt seem to happen but once a day or so......so if i can just do that then i will just deal.
thanks for the idea bruh.
No Network problem on samsung Infuse
the2rrell said:
ok, so i have this thing for a lil over a month now i think maybe more....
but i have noticed that no matter what Rom or Kernel, even Stock.
if im in an area where i lose signal.....it may NEVER come back unless i reboot my phone. not a big deal in most cases but unless i look to check i may have no network for a couple hours before i notice that i have to reboot my phone. which means i get no calls and no text.
is there a fix for this or is this just something that i am experiencing??
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Hi ,
Iam also facing the same problem . Have u come across any solution for this problem .Iam unable to use my device because of this problem . It would be of great help if u can let me know the solution .
Regards,
Kumar
Do you have keep wifi on always under the wifi advanced area?
Sent from my SGH-I997 using xda premium
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
sounds familiar....
hey there,
I'm down here in New Zealand with a both versions of device, X & XL
my XL has the problem you speak about.
When i leave my house, it takes for ever to disconnect, pain of course because the 3G or 4G wont flip on while it thinks it is still on wifi.
When i return to my home/SSID the device takes for ever to reconnect, if it even does. i go to the wifi settings, and the connection initiation is just cycling, end attempts to connect, over and over.
I've thought i had fix it once before, by installing a new RUU. I was on RUU 1.77.708.3 Asia, could only find 1.77.708.2.
this seemed to fix disconnection on departure problem, but the cycling and hunting continued when i returned.
I have since found that this must be linked to the bluetooth. I say this because while the wifi is hunting/cycling i flip off the bluetooth and the wifi reconnects within seconds. I tested this more and with bluetooth disabled i have no wifi problems at all, but with bluetooth on, its gives my problems.
The second issue is the bluetooth its self. unlike my flawless desireHD, i can only stream music to my car head-deck, when i get a phone call, the music cuts out like it should, but the phone audio doesn't happen, been like that from the get go. wifi was a problem all the time because this dodgy bluetooth was on all the time so i could listen to music in the car and hopefully one day take calls in the car also.
well i have good news for me, today i flashed CleanROM.3.Standard .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
Today for the first time I can take calls over bluetooth in the car. this is good news because i was certain this was a hardware issue, even it it is, i am confident it can be resolved in the software now.
I'll do a few drive-by's my house tonight to test this wifi, see if that got resolved also. I'll let you know the result later.
I tell you all this in-case our issues are the same, it might save you some time... maybe.
good luck with, and check that bluetooth theory because i'm dying to know if its a common problem.
Cheers
Thank you for that very detailed post.
I also have bluetooth running (connected) to my car and it works flawlessly but it may be a cause for the WiFI staying connected as well. I will turn it off and see how it goes as the week progresses and keep this updated as well.
I would also like to flash clean rom but I am using the Rogers variant so I am worried it might not be compatible.
an_xda said:
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
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This has been a known problem since the HOX has been released.
an_xda said:
As title says, I went to the theatre today and realized I still had 5 bars of WiFi when I was 20KM away from home, was this a one time glitch or is it a known problem?
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First reaction: It's not a glitch, that's just really good WiFi...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I did those drive-by's......
Me again...
I did those drive-by's of my house, unfortunately there is no joy for me, still the WiFi behaves the same as before.
Its funny, down here we have assumed that the X is the same as the XL apart from the cpu. But in reality they are two completely different machines.
So I turned off Bluetooth and the problem does not occur anymore, WiFi disconnects as needed but it is obviously not a permanent fix. Another problem is the WiFi being on and off with 5 bars swapping between 4G and WiFi...
CleanROM again......
OK, I was doing some more reading and have since found that the developer of CleanROM has released a GSM patch so the hotspot on his ROMs now work.
You might remember i said earlier in this thread that CleanROM.3 worked best for me but the hotspot didn't work so i couldn't use it.
Now i have CleanROM installed again, Hotspot works, bluetooth both Audio & Phone work, and the WiFi at this stage seems to be doing what it should without having to manually toggle the bluetooth on and off. No apparent bugs to report at this stage.
Software Info on phone says this version is built around 1.29.728.12. I don't know if that means all ICS version of that number are good or not, but again its a place to start. Its looking like some versions have the issue and some don't, this re-assures me that it can be resolved within the software. I don't mind testing this stuff, as long as the developers don't mind developing it, and its a good learning curve.... its all good.
Check this CleanROM work out, it could be your answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
I'll check back in in a day or so and update you on my WiFi situation.
Cheers!
Thanks again for all your research and assistance.
I have the Rogers variant, should be no problem flashing it to CleanROM correct? Also, for each new CleanROM update, I would have to wipe and flash again? Seems troublesome.
Can you advise on the process required to flash the ROM? I am new to Android and the steps in the thread is not as comprehensive.
Many thanks.
hi there, show you how to load roms, thats a big job for me....
...I'm new to this myself, but i know a tutorial that will save me a ton of typing.
you need to do 2 things first, before flashing roms.
1,Unlock your bootloader
2,Install clockworkmod
have a look at this ,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647272
Study this thread, very helpfull. He explains how to install clockworkmod on your device, once you have that done you are 80% there, and you only have to do this process once, once done, flashing roms will always be the last 20%, you never do this again.
Infact flashing roms and backing up your own rom is a very simply task. the commands are on a list, just choose them as you go. To backup, wipe, and flash a new rom takes me less than 10 minutes.
Go to you tube and look at this, this shows you how Clockworkmod works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOQEmQYFEeY
dont be freaked out, take it step by step, you'll be fine.
I also started this thread, regarding working roms for this wifi issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27585586#post27585586
no one has replyed yet, but it might yeild helpfull info later on perhaps
Thanks, I will do this shortly. Will unlocking the bootloader or doing any of the aforementioned steps give me the tampered signature?
Yes
yes, your phone will be marked.
Boot loader will be marked "Unlocked" , even if you relock it, its just gonna say "relocked" . nothing you can do about that.
The boot loader will also say "tampered" if you update the rom, but that msg dissappears completely if you update the phone via an RUU.exe
Can this hurt me with regards to warranty requests? I know I can remove the tampered status by flashing a stock ROM but I am concerned re: bootloader.
Hi, I'm a noob with half an idea of what I'm doing. Please excuse any stupidity (I was born with it and am learning to develop it everyday)
I have a problem that I think is probably for [RADIO][LATEST: 26.16.04.09] The HTC Desire HD Radio Thread----- but because I'm new, I can't post there.
I'll try and give you what I think is the the most relevant information
I have a 2 year old HTC Desire HD still running on the UK Orange network.
I have successfully flashed probably more than 10 roms over that period (to try out different features).
About 7 weeks ago (stupidly) flashed a new radio.
It seemed to go well and my phone is correctly reporting the new
"Baseband Version 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M"
I'm currently running Android 4.2.2
Kernel 3.0.78_JellyTime_42_R9-g35b611d
which I like but ...
ever since I flashed my radio my reception has been awful
I hardly ever use data when I'm out (I tend to be in places where I can use wifi)
so usually my data is turned off.
I just want to receive calls or texts but most of the time my phone shows no signal bars and callers can't get through (no texts either).
My texts seem to come through if I switch to airplane mode then switch back to normal.
Unfortunately its not totally consistent but most of the time, through the day, my phone (which I was probably successfully using earlier) just decides to lose any signal and then not "reconnect" to a mast unless I force it (through airplane off then on).
I have subsequently tried a few different Roms (without re-flashing the Radio) but the problem is the same whichever Rom I use.
I've read lots and lots and the Radio I'm using seems to be well liked but I'm guessing that for some reason it doesn't like my phone. I'm thinking I need to go back to a different radio but I don' t know which one and before someone tells me to go back to the previous one (before my problem) I've tried so many different things I can't remember what Radio and Rom I last had that worked successfully (I told you I was stupid).
The battery now drains very quickly, only lasts a quarter as long as it did 2 months ago. I believe (but could be wrong) that is because my phone is constantly trying to register with a mast but is getting no signal.
I want my phone to be reliable, I don't need the latest "bells & whistles" ie I don't want to be trying out someone's newest "nightly" with a whole lot of features not yet working.
I appreciate you guys have put in so much effort and know so much more than me.
I hope I haven't bored you but that I've included enough info to help your diagnosis.
Last bit of info, I notice that on a lot of roms, the camera seems to be one of the features that regularly "doesn't work yet". The camera is one of the features I use the most (it's important to me).
What should I do?
All help gratefully received... Thanks in anticipation
Hey, I flashed my stock HTC Desire HD with CM 10.1 eventually - had to spend lots of time figuring out how to get S-OFF and I'm sure in that process the radio image got reflashed with another which causes the same symptoms you describe - excessive battery use, phone hot at the radio module, not getting constant signal, etc. Now I'm also rather concerned because I wouldn't want to brick the device by flashing a bad radio image...
If you've figured anything out, let me know, I'll be stuck reading...
Calls drop often. Usually within the first minute, and then every time when Im calling back after 10sec. The phone itself does not lose signal. Strange thing is, if I'm getting phone call after first/second drop, phone continues connection without problems... But Only when Im receiving a phone call not when Im trying to re-call someone.
- I tried replacing my sim and the issue persists. No problems with other phones using this Sim (even in the same locations).
These are pretty annoying issues. Anybody else experiencing them? Is there a different radio I can try for the phone? Is there any log I can access showing a reason for the call drop, or any trouble shooting I can do? This seems to be independent of WCDMA Only/Preferred/GSM/WCDMA (Auto) settings. Or if, how to change these settings?
Note: This has nothing to do with the network. I've been with the same company (Orange Europe) for about 2.5 years, and have never had this happen before. This has been consistent since I got my OnePlus (about 1 week ago)
That's true. I'm experiencing this as well for quite some time now. At first I joked and said: Hey, the NSA joined our conversation.....again. But after some time it really annoys me. This has nothing to do with the ROM or kernel as I have tried out various combinations. What I found out is that it got better after I returned to stock CM 11s with stock kernel. But it's not gone completly.
Honestly I neither know how to fix it nor what is causing the problem. Try to reflash the CM11S 25R firmware and see if it gets better. I think something is wrong with the modem software since CM11S 22R,25R and CM11 builds are using the same modem software. Maybe the announced update for the end of this month or early next month will fix this. I really hope so because a phone which is not able to hold a call, can't be considered as a real phone.
Oh im pitty You, If You'll get something just please let me know. Any advices or help will be appreciated. Maybe waiting for new CM relase will solve the problem, I do rly like this OS even with so many bugs... there is always an option. Move to stock 4.4 published by OP on official website.
Anyone else facing the same issue? Was there ever a fix for this issue? I'm on 38R and still encountering this issue
Same here.
See this thread for answers and work around. No solution as of yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/dropped-calls-weak-lte-signal-t2916659