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HD2 vs Nexus One - Not a actual competition

Now that the HD2 is for a fact now coming to T-Mobile, and the Nexus One looms over head. What should I pick?
I love Android and WM. No doubt about it. I've been in both areas of rom development. I just cant decide. Since I can only get both on subsidy, 200 vs 180 isn't that big of a deal. I am not at all a new comer to this, and I just want to know from both perspectives. Since which ever I pick I will be happy.
My Needs:
- Battery that will last all the way to the night.
- Support(Both have them I know, I used to run a rom list for the HD2)
- Style (Both are sexy)
- Speed (Both are 1ghz)
- Ram, and efficient use of it
- Applications (I did not want to use the godawful word "apps")
- The feel in your hands
- Age
- Browser (I already know how awesome WM opera is) I have a large distaste for server side rendering since its cheating.
- Practicality of functions (like how well does a certain thing work, like the camera and speaker and call quality etc. .)
- Room for improvement (rom side)
They aren't exactly my needs but its a guideline that can help. Just provide your incite.

Anyone? I could use some incite .

here you go
htc stated the nexus one isnt made to be put in pockets...ppl have been complaining about cracked screens and so forth. if u plan on having ur phone in your pocket then get the hd2.
multitouch on the hd2 is much better than the nexus...has something to do with the nexus one screen
in terms of rom development i believe that windows mobile will yield the most in potential.
But be wary...if you are wanting the windows 7 upgrade for your hd2, hold off until microsoft says whether it will be possible. I know this is a deal breaker for some people

Hmmm, I forgot to list, hows the pocketability of the device?

pocketability? whats that lol?

I've no personal experience, but from everything I've seen and read, if you can carry an iPhone, you can carry this. While the HD2 is bigger, the size difference isn't drastically different between the two.

chizzwhizz said:
pocketability? whats that lol?
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I think "how easy is to put it in your pocket"

I would go for Leo because WM
I am not Andoird fan...

Lol, whats up with WM users and android?

Nothing really, nothing personal
I just think that WM is more solid OS for business environment, Android is too young now...
Perhaps in the future I can consider it but now now

I get you. Have you had any experience with this phone?
Also, what improvements has xda brought us?

chizzwhizz said:
htc stated the nexus one isnt made to be put in pockets...ppl have been complaining about cracked screens and so forth. if u plan on having ur phone in your pocket then get the hd2.
multitouch on the hd2 is much better than the nexus...has something to do with the nexus one screen
in terms of rom development i believe that windows mobile will yield the most in potential.
But be wary...if you are wanting the windows 7 upgrade for your hd2, hold off until microsoft says whether it will be possible. I know this is a deal breaker for some people
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I'm pretty sure that HTC meant that you shouldn't put the phone in your BACK pocket. I have my phone in my front pockets all the time. Also the phone slides into your front pockets real easy like.

It's really Android vs. WM.
I personally would choose Android. You want many/good applications - Android has them. On WM, you find an application for pretty much everything you want, but the quality of the applications is just MUCH better on Android.
And moreover, nobody is going to develop anymore for WM6.5 when WP7S is out. The Android Market is growing fast - WM's Marketplace is even shrinking and also outside of it, there's not much going to happen.
"Pocketability": Both are good (very thin, the Nexus is a bit lighter though, but 1mm thicker)
So that's my answer: If you don't need that huge 4.3" screen or dual LED flash, or a certain feature that only WM provides - get the Nexus One (or better: The HTC Desire).

I've had both and I am currently waiting for the HD2 to come out. I like the Nexus, but the response of the touch screen is a pain sometimes. I also like the hardware buttons on the HD2. Meaning, if I need to make a call, just hit the call button.
I love how the Nexus IS the google phone, so google integration is smooth. It does all the google maps/sync/voice etc nicely. The android market is nice, but the applications there aren't that great. The only thing I have downloaded that wasn't a widget and really use is slacker radio.

Cheeze[iT] said:
The android market is nice, but the applications there aren't that great.
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Then you'll be very disappointed with the HD2, I'm afraid... except if you're into things like PSX Emulators etc., those are really great on WM.

I am into Emulators and such lol. I have a source for WM applications just as I can get a source for android applications. I could care less as long as I have a good mobile experience. Applications are cool, but some I don't use. Most of the apps im gonna get are like Google Maps, and maybe the market MySpace app(Android or WM).
I am very familiar with the Nexus One's development and its reminiscent of the G1. What has kind of made me split my decision and leave me here is the fact that all these little problems are cropping up with the Nexus, like the touch screen and the Dust, and just all the other little things.
I just need an argument from both sides to help me decide better. Right now I'm in the middle, purgatory.

I would go for the HD2. While I like both OSes, WM is still my preference. That being said, with Android being open source and WM not, it will only be a matter of time before Android is fully up and running on the HD2, the best of both worlds. There isn't a lot of WM porting going on these days, and I'm not sure if its legal, so with the Nexus one you are stuck with Android, whereas with the HD2 you will likely have a choice.

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I would go for the HD2. While I like both OSes, WM is still my preference. That being said, with Android being open source and WM not, it will only be a matter of time before Android is fully up and running on the HD2, the best of both worlds. There isn't a lot of WM porting going on these days, and I'm not sure if its legal, so with the Nexus one you are stuck with Android, whereas with the HD2 you will likely have a choice.
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I read the thread about the android for it, it seems they are stuck.

~~Tito~~ said:
I am into Emulators and such lol. I have a source for WM applications just as I can get a source for android applications. I could care less as long as I have a good mobile experience. Applications are cool, but some I don't use. Most of the apps im gonna get are like Google Maps, and maybe the market MySpace app(Android or WM).
I am very familiar with the Nexus One's development and its reminiscent of the G1. What has kind of made me split my decision and leave me here is the fact that all these little problems are cropping up with the Nexus, like the touch screen and the Dust, and just all the other little things.
I just need an argument from both sides to help me decide better. Right now I'm in the middle, purgatory.
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Well, I say Nexus One, or HTC Desire, unless there's something you need that it can't do.
The quality of the applications on Android is really much better, but there are some things on WM that you don't get on Android, and you should check that before you make your decision.
(and of course, there are also things on Android that you don't get one WM)
Look at the things you're doing and search whether all of that is possible on Android/WM. Then decide.
The problems with the Nexus One? They're the same on the HD2. The touchscreen has the same issues, but nobody cares, cause there's no multitouch applications on WM anyways.

Everything I want I can do on both devices. So thats the reason I am stuck between the two. I wanted the HD2 before the Nexus One came out, but the price was really high. Then the Nexus came out and I was eying it as well. Now that both devices are available to me at reasonable prices I am stuck.

iPhone 4 vs. Captivate/Android -- What are the differences?

I have an original iPhone 2G that I want to replace. I've been waiting for the new iPhone 4 to come out, and I was planning on buying one -- but the death-grip problem got me to do some research, which is how I found out about the Captivate.
Now I'm torn on which one to get. Obviously I'm very accustomed to the iPhone, but I've never used Android. So...
1. What are the major differences between iOS and Android?
2. What might I like better about Android? What might I not like about Andriod? And what might I like better about iOS?
3. What might I like better about the Captivate phone? What might I prefer about the iPhone 4 phone?
4. I've read a lot of comments about "Lag" on the Captivate, which would really bug me. Is it true?
Etc, etc...
I think you get the point of the thread.
Thanks in advance.

The hardware differences are obvious. As far as lag, yes, there's some issue's but there's work arounds.
The biggest difference, the IPhone is a great phone, right out of the box without messing with anything. But your stuck with what you got. Apps are restricted, web is restricted, your pretty much at the mercy of att and apple.
Android, requires more out of the box tinkering, but you have endless possibilities. You can customize your phone the way you want it.

You have to realize that the iPhone and ios are completely locked down. You are destined to use the apps that apple ok's you have no other hardware choices and are locked into iTunes and all things apple.
Android is a complete 180 it allows for so much customization that it is simply mind boggleing. If you are unhappy with a certain apps or feature sets you can simply build your own or find something else.
With this.freedom comes responsibility. You need to manage your Apps and memory usage. You have to babysit a bit in order to get the most out of the device.
Being able to play most movie files and tons of audio file types is very freeing
Also the screen is insanely gorgeous.
It really comes down to two things in the end.
Do you have tons of Apps already for ios that you are not willing to part with?
Do you like geeking out a bit in order to build your dream device?
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rob989_69 said:
As far as lag, yes, there's some issue's but there's work arounds.
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Got a link to these workarounds? This one's a biggee for me.
rob989_69 said:
The biggest difference, the IPhone is a great phone, right out of the box without messing with anything. But your stuck with what you got. Apps are restricted, web is restricted, your pretty much at the mercy of att and apple.
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Does this mean that if we're happy with the iPhone out of the box we're better off with iPhone 4 since there's no need to mess with anything?
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You can customize your phone the way you want it.
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How so? Can you give some examples? I only know what the iPhone gives us out of the box, so I have no way to know what I might be missing.
Thanks.

Sounds Good said:
Got a link to these workarounds? This one's a biggee for me.
Does this mean that if we're happy with the iPhone out of the box we're better off with iPhone 4 since there's no need to mess with anything?
How so? Can you give some examples? I only know what the iPhone gives us out of the box, so I have no way to know what I might be missing.
Thanks.
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Android uses widgets, which is something iOS lacks. You have the freedom to add and remove more than just app icons to your homescreen, such as weather indicators, contact rolodex, clocks, RSS feeds, facebook updates, everything. you can literally have every piece of pertinent info such as your todo list, email, weather, time, and alrams, all available on a single screen, without having to inside individual apps.
Another nifty feature of android are the live wallpapers. These animated, and often interactive, backgrounds adds a unique customization that lets people know your phone is unique.
the captivate is VERY usable right outside the box, unlike some other android phones. Despite what some people say, the Touchwiz UI (the UI that samsung has installed) is very fun to use, easy to customize, and is a natural transition for iphone users. The app dock at the bottom makes it feel slightly like an iphone, but includes the Android widgets to give you a nice feel of the phone.
On the downside, Samsung and AT&T install a lot of bloatware that slows down the phone. You will more than likely want to root the phone to be able to uninstall the AT&T Apps, the only duplicate the functionality that android has by default, and at a cost. for instance AT&T Navigate is a monthly charge app that is inferior to the free and default android navigate.

asrrin29 said:
On the downside, Samsung and AT&T install a lot of bloatware that slows down the phone. You will more than likely want to root the phone to be able to uninstall the AT&T Apps...
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Hmmm, this may be a problem. The sluggishness would drive me nuts, but if "root" is similar to Jailbraking, it's not my cup of tea. I know, I know... most of you have no problem with this... but I've never done it and I most likely never will. Which (apparently) leaves me with a sluggish phone. Not good.
I appreciate the feedback... it's the only way to truly learn.

Sounds Good said:
Hmmm, this may be a problem. The sluggishness would drive me nuts, but if "root" is similar to Jailbraking, it's not my cup of tea. I know, I know... most of you have no problem with this... but I've never done it and I most likely never will. Which (apparently) leaves me with a sluggish phone. Not good.
I appreciate the feedback... it's the only way to truly learn.
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You can disable all of the apps without root, but they will still be in your menu taking up space. I notice it's the Samsung widgets that cause lag the most (but honestly, it's still snappy even with the bloat) once you disable them the thing flies.
And rooting is only superficially similar to jail breaking. all rooting does is install the superuser app that allows you to do things an administrator is allowed to do. If you don't want it on your phone you simply uninstall the superuser app and it's back the way it was. what would be more akin to jailbreaking would be to enable sideloading, a way to install apps without using the market. This requires editing the system database, which is harder to reverse. You can enable root without also enabling sideloading, they are two different processes.
If you use a PC, you can even use Droid Explorer to uninstall apps without rooting your phone.

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If you use a PC, you can even use Droid Explorer to uninstall apps without rooting your phone.
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Dont you need to have root access to install busybox? My droid explorer wouldnt work until I downloaded and installed an updated busybox.
Rooting my phone was the first thing I did as soon as I got home, so I'm not sure if you need to have root access to install busybox or not.

derek4484 said:
Dont you need to have root access to install busybox? My droid explorer wouldnt work until I downloaded and installed an updated busybox.
Rooting my phone was the first thing I did as soon as I got home, so I'm not sure if you need to have root access to install busybox or not.
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Not sure, I rooted immediately as well, I just read about the explorer here on the forums.

Wtf is this lag you all talk about?? install laucher pro and that fixes the laggy touchwiz UI ****tiness...other than that android runs like butter on this device its unreal, i had an acer liquid and trust me android is not the same on a galaxy S its just unreal how smooth it is.

Sounds Good said:
Hmmm, this may be a problem. The sluggishness would drive me nuts, but if "root" is similar to Jailbraking, it's not my cup of tea. I know, I know... most of you have no problem with this... but I've never done it and I most likely never will. Which (apparently) leaves me with a sluggish phone. Not good.
I appreciate the feedback... it's the only way to truly learn.
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I suspect that people who have issues with sluggishness just got too enthusiastic about newly acquired freedom I solved this issue (that is if I even had it in a first place) by switching from Live Wallpaper to a regular one. No other tricks. I use TouchWiz (I like it). Here is a video comparing iPhone 4 and Captivate side by side. It uses stock Captivate and it's not any more sluggish than iPhone 4. In fact, it's faster in many tests.

rafyvitto said:
Wtf is this lag you all talk about?? install laucher pro and that fixes the laggy touchwiz UI ****tiness...other than that android runs like butter on this device its unreal, i had an acer liquid and trust me android is not the same on a galaxy S its just unreal how smooth it is.
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It's not touchwiz that is laggy. I love touchwiz and it's extremely responsive. Rather, it's the Samsung widgets that clutter 3 homscreens that are very processor intensive. Once you place them in the trash and replace them with other apps from the market the experience is far better.

lilo777 said:
Here is a video comparing iPhone 4 and Captivate side by side. It uses stock Captivate and it's not any more sluggish than iPhone 4. In fact, it's faster in many tests.
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Interesting. Thanks for the link.

I'm coming from an iPhone (from what it sounds, i'm a more power user than you but I can offer insight)
the captivate has the advantage of having in house chip manufacturing, now while I have rooted and sideloaded and removed att bloat...before I did that all I did was remove the daily briefing widget (pretty useless imo) and I never experienced any slow down. I was used to waiting a bit with the 3gs so I was pretty happy with the experience.
If you're concerned about lag, don't. there really isn't any. it's perceived from when you hear you have a 1ghz phone that is as good as jesus. Everything even the fastest home computers have the occasional lag.
as for rooting, it really just allows you to have some more control over your phone. It's a stepping stone yes, kind of like a gateway drug into android tweaking. But if you can control yourself it'll allow you to simply remove the ATT apps that suck and use a nice and zippy touchwiz (which I actually really like) and because TW is very iphoneish, you should have a good time navigating.
but man lemme tell you, the browser is much better than iPhone. Flash is pretty awesome. The Screen is much much much! better than the 4's and it is bigger which I personally like. I think it hits the sweet spot between big and medium (I wanted a streak but it took way to long to come out, and i'm glad i didn't bite on an import).
The only two apps which are better on iPhone are facebook and MLB at Bat (at bat because of mlb.tv) otherwise the selection is nice on android, and the apps are very diverse.
I think you'd like it, but then again this is just my opinion. I'm more of the tinkerer anyways and I HAD to jailbreak my iPhone to enjoy it.
the captivate has some neat little tweaks that'll keep surprising you (I find new things every day)
choice is yours hope i could help

V DidDy 210 said:
I'm coming from an iPhone (from what it sounds, i'm a more power user than you but I can offer insight)
the captivate has the advantage of having in house chip manufacturing, now while I have rooted and sideloaded and removed att bloat...before I did that all I did was remove the daily briefing widget (pretty useless imo) and I never experienced any slow down. I was used to waiting a bit with the 3gs so I was pretty happy with the experience.
If you're concerned about lag, don't. there really isn't any. it's perceived from when you hear you have a 1ghz phone that is as good as jesus. Everything even the fastest home computers have the occasional lag.
as for rooting, it really just allows you to have some more control over your phone. It's a stepping stone yes, kind of like a gateway drug into android tweaking. But if you can control yourself it'll allow you to simply remove the ATT apps that suck and use a nice and zippy touchwiz (which I actually really like) and because TW is very iphoneish, you should have a good time navigating.
but man lemme tell you, the browser is much better than iPhone. Flash is pretty awesome. The Screen is much much much! better than the 4's and it is bigger which I personally like. I think it hits the sweet spot between big and medium (I wanted a streak but it took way to long to come out, and i'm glad i didn't bite on an import).
The only two apps which are better on iPhone are facebook and MLB at Bat (at bat because of mlb.tv) otherwise the selection is nice on android, and the apps are very diverse.
I think you'd like it, but then again this is just my opinion. I'm more of the tinkerer anyways and I HAD to jailbreak my iPhone to enjoy it.
the captivate has some neat little tweaks that'll keep surprising you (I find new things every day)
choice is yours hope i could help
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I also got suspicious about Daily Briefing once I saw that it was updating AP news constantly. I disabled AP News but kept the weather and the stock quotes. In my observation those are not updated automatically (or very infrequently). I think this was enough. I am still thinking about junking entire widget though

Every piece of [email protected] is different, just find the one that fits you best, if you know what I mean. Apple is great but equally the competition. Heck I had the HTC Aria before the Capt. It's was snappier and has a better UI I think, darn screen is just to small. My wife has the I4 and its cool too for what she uses it for.

Okay... thanks, guys.

I won't comment on regarding the operating system, but i'll tell you why pick Captivate.
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Let's just say, SGS currently offers nearly everything at the top of the market.
BUT, it would NOT be future proof. Technology advances regardless of any economical drawbacks, there WILL be better phones out there in the future.
Screen - debatable with iPhone4's screen
This really is a territory where personal preference will determine which the better screen will be, the differences are that minuscule.
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iPhone4 Retina Display vs. Galaxy S Super Amoled
CPU/GPU - YES YES YES. THREE times the speed of today's smartphone.
Coolermaster
Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon: The 1 GHz Smartphone Showdown
OS - Debatable so i wouldn't want to get into this. (but might i add this? the community behind android, let alone other OS, has an advantage of being futuristic-proof because of the regular tweets and mods)
Camera - 5mp, pretty darn low comparatively to other smartphones but it's adequate/satisfying after seeing the vids/pics
For me, I would certainly pick SGS. This is a bad place to ask for our opinon, it's a SGS dedicated section! (Trust me, you won't regret it. The screen is the dealbreaker)
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AT&T 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Tmobile 16gb, No FFC, No flash, gyroscope
Verizon 2gb, No FFC NOT SURE, flash, gyroscope, Wi-fi Hotspot supported
Sprint 1gb, Yes FFC NOT SURE, Flash, gyroscope, Keyboard, wi-fi hotspot supported
International 8/16gb, FFC, no Flash, gyroscope (not sure)
Captivate has metal battery door.
Nice sliding usb port.
Cool push down opening of the battery door.
better look, in my opinion
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Anything else you're wondering?

Seeing as how this is XDA, I'm not surprised everyone is siding with Android/SGS. I'm going to sled a little light on the iPhone since it has yet to be mentioned at all.
Did everyone forget about jailbreaking for the iPhone? The iPhone is just as customizable through jailbreaking as rooting is to Android. People are talking about how the apps are restricted but there is also Cydia and Cydia is freaking amazing.
I definitely recommend you to try and experience both. Reading up on how something is can only go so far. Having personal experience will give you A LOT of insight on how much devices are and which 1 best suits you. Go to AT&T, address the debate that you're having with them and I'm sure they'll gladly arrange something where you can try both devices for X amount of days.

Sounds Good said:
Does this mean that if we're happy with the iPhone out of the box we're better off with iPhone 4 since there's no need to mess with anything?
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Probably best to stay with iPhone if you don't have a reason to switch.
That said, jailbreaking on the iPhone isn't anywhere near the same thing as rooting the Android.
IE, iPhone users have been waiting a long time now for the iOS4 jailbreak, Captivate users had a root before it ever came out.
Captivate is as simple as putting a zip file on the device, rebooting the phone and applying it. EASY. Not near as involved as jailbreaking the iPhone.

Is android fulfilling all of your needs?

Hey friends,
whats up? How you like Android? Is it fulfilling all of your need? Have fun

Being someone that moved from Palm to the Android, I am fully satisfied! The only thing that I missed from palm is the ability to record my phone calls. But this is not Android OS issue it is hardware issue. So I am a happy Android(HTC Desire) user!

Of course! Everything I need in one homescreen, custom ROMs, plus it beats the hell out of an iPhone!

Most of my needs...
..and for the others we have women

Completely satisfied... Anything it didn't do straight out of the box was easy and painless to add. Having been a BB and iPhone user before, I can safely say Android is by far the best for me.
Although... It doesn't make my coffee in the morning and run me a bath when I finish work, so I've been forced to get married to cover these missing functions...

It has far surpassed my needs!
Even satisfied needs I didn't know I had!
Only drawback I can point to with switching over is there needs to be a way to get out of the cloud if you don't want to have your head, contacts and Calendar in those clouds.
And the lack of Sync with PC for Outlook built in is a major inconvenience.
(I have found some 3rd party functionality here none of it perfect yet)
I used to use my WinMo phone like it was intended, mostly as a communications device and for a wireless hotspot. Sometimes a MP3 player and rarely to get web pages or manuals for the devices I use in my work (Broadcast Video Engineer)
Now on android I have dish pointer that lets me know what satellites I can hit through the camera, I have better web to read and get Manuals where I can zoom much quicker and precisely than I could before.
It automatically will update all the programs I have gotten from the marketplace keeping itself up to date.
And the resposiveness of the hardware (1.2 Ghz) is just a pure pleasure!
It allows me to set the machine up in a sense like format (different tabs for different functions) and the widget is everything WinMo Today plugs SHOULD have been.
I am all for brand loyalty and I understand it is hard to leave a house that you spent so much of your life in but I can't ever imagine wanting to go back or onto the very simplistic and uncustomizable WinPho7.
Android isn't perfect but it sure is a lot better than the other OS' I have seen.

Coming from IOS it doesnt seem as smooth or polished but it has been able to do everything I need...

^^
+1...android has lots of customizations..great features but it isnt just as smooth as my iphone was.
drafunt said:
Being someone that moved from Palm to the Android, I am fully satisfied! The only thing that I missed from palm is the ability to record my phone calls. But this is not Android OS issue it is hardware issue. So I am a happy Android(HTC Desire) user!
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There is an app in the market called call rocorder...i m using it currenty with my evo...and it works great...it uses the phones mic to record and the recorded conversations are clearly audible.
You can try it for your phone.

OnlyFone.com said:
Hey friends,
whats up? How you like Android? Is it fulfilling all of your need? Have fun
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The only thing is miss from my iphone is the ability to listen to podcasts at 2x speed. I know there are some apps out there that have a solution for this but they dont work on my Streak.

I would say i'm very Satisfied with android coming from a iPhone was a big upgrade to me. I like the freedom that we have and can customize pretty much everything. But I will admit that the only things I missed from having a iPhone is the music player and some of the apps were pretty sweet.

Very much!
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DPLOY said:
Coming from IOS it doesnt seem as smooth or polished but it has been able to do everything I need...
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I guess it depends on your phone and ROM. I use a Galaxy S, and Doc's ROM (fully customized from the kitchen), and my phone literally couldn't be faster. I click something and usually it's done before I lift my finger. Except for 3G (which is pathetic in Australia).
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Absolutely! I used an iPhone for a year before switching to Android. A couple months ago, I decided to sell my iPhone so I booted it up to clear everything out, and couldn't figure out how to do anything! Simple actions, like turning on wifi, and finding an app, are multi-step processes there. Android is awesome, simply put.

Android has not failed me so far, not in regards to software. Apps are great, software gets better every update, account syncing makes adding contacts so much easier... I could go on.
That said, I've had my truly great experiences with the software only after I rooted my device, shortly after HTC pushed out their 2.1 Sense ROM for it. Since then, I've used a variety of amazing ROMs, both 2.2 and 2.3, which are much more representative of what Android is capable of when truly optimised to a specific device. I've used Symbian and iOS, but I don't think I'll be looking back from Android any time soon.

Yep! I find it can do everything I want and really fast, plus more. I must say there are some really handy apps out there.
One area which I think could improve is GPS software, I'm talking about offline map GPS software. I use CoPilot and while it's the best I've seen so far on Android, iGO8 on my i900 WinMo is much much better.

Great for multitasking, smooth, very customizable. I love android and will never switch to another os
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Works great for me, I can't get away from my phone. I just wish service was better, but that's another story.
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Android is the best upgrading i ever did, switching from my dumb nokia n97..
The only thing degrading rite now is the android market.. Slowly, day by day, the android market has turned into itunes app market.. Lot's of crap apps rather than really useful apps.. Seriously, what's up with fart apps, stupid bikini puzzle, pointless sexy girl wallpaper apps?? We don't need million stupid apps that cluttering the market.. That is one of the reasons i stop myself from buying an iphone4..
No offense..

it is more than full filing my needs . I do everything with it fun, work, multimedia etc.

Far from satisfied.
Navigation isn't as good as on WM
Keyboard sucks, had to get swype
Can't make calls using phone numbers emailed to me
Email client is soooooo basic, only good thing about it is the ability to connect to 2 exchange servers
Browsing the web is a PITA, go to zoom in, accidently hit a link instead which is too small to read (hence the need to zoom in) and then have to go back and do it again. Also there are many pages/links which it can't handle using default browser/firefox/opera
So many apps, so few decent ones

[Q] No 2100Mhz = No 3G for me sell and buy Captivate, Please...Help me decide

HI all
I just got down a unlocked Inspire 4G and I have only Edge and GPRS for data
cause there are no operator where i live that support the 1900 Band..
I called the Shop they said they have a Captivate and a Samsung Focus and its cheaper and they will refunfd the extra
sooooo I love the Inspire they way it feels and looks...and Sense of-course
but with only 2G speeds, is it really worth to keep it.
or the practical solution is to Return it and Get a Captivate or a Focus??
Since captivate and focus supports Tri-Band 3G so i will get 3g with them 2 phones
Please lend me your thoughts to help me decide

Wow...that's a hard choice. The Inspire is the best one of them all and is a superior phone in every way. But unless you are able to use WiFi most of the time, it would be seriouly handicapped.
Keep it if you have plentiful access to WiFi. Otherwise go with the Focus. But don't expect the customization of Android or the number of apps. The Focus will be more like an iPhone for usability.
If music quality is important, go with the Captivate. It has a superior audio chip from Wolfson. The GPS, though, will be buggy.
Actually, the more I think about it, I would definitely go with the Captivate. That sweet Samsung sound quality is worth it.
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Hmmm
How is the Samsug Focus I mean since you use the phone accroding to your SIggy
How is WINP7 im inetersted in that platform have seen it but never used it...
are there good apps for the Wp7?? Mango will be a great update
so then Focus or Captivate arrrgh!!!
Choices Choices... i hate them

hellfire666 said:
Hmmm
How is the Samsug Focus I mean since you use the phone accroding to your SIggy
How is WINP7 im inetersted in that platform have seen it but never used it...
are there good apps for the Wp7?? Mango will be a great update
so then Focus or Captivate arrrgh!!!
Choices Choices... i hate them
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Like I said...lol...hard choice. The Focus is a sweet phone and my opinion is it is the current best WP7 phone. But WP7 severely lacks regarding features and functionality right now. WP7 is a sweet system, very smooth and elegant, and can be the best mobile OS if MS gets its act together and starts adding the needed features and takes control of the updating like they claimed they were going to in the beginning.
WP7 is, like iOS, very boring regarding customization. A WP7 phone serves a simple, very useful, purpose, which is to provide a smartphone platform that does multimedia, web and phone calls/SMS. But what you get with the WP7 phone you buy is all you get until MS changes it in an update.
I love my Focus but it sucks...just like all other WP7 phones...for music quality. And that's because of the "system-on-a-chip" architecture. There isn't a high-quality, high-end audio chip in any WP7 phone. That's why the Captivate would be the better choice for all-around usability and functionality.
The apps currently available for WP7 are nice. But there are too few of them and things like turn-by-turn voice-guided navigation don't currently exist. Mango will change that, though.

you are right captivate seems to be a good option...here
will it be like Really darn slow for Exchange sync and FB on 2g with the Inspire??
just wondering if there sia way to keep it heheee
I dont really use it for music I have a ipod 4g 64 GB for music stuff
I need to solid Smart phone with good Apps and stuff Emails
I really do Like Sense3.0 Damn it !!!

hellfire666 said:
you are right captivate seems to be a good option...here
will it be like Really darn slow for Exchange sync and FB on 2g with the Inspire??
just wondering if there sia way to keep it heheee
I dont really use it for music I have a ipod 4g 64 GB for music stuff
I need to solid Smart phone with good Apps and stuff Emails
I really do Like Sense3.0 Damn it !!!
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Edge is painfully slow for websites with a lot of HTML. But for text-based sites, you should be fine. And the Inspire doesn't have Sense 3.0 natively. It uses Sense 2.1 in Gingerbread. Sense 3.0 is sweet and the HTC Sensation, which uses Sense 3.0, is a fine phone.

If you can't have 3g in your area get the Captivate, save the money for these reasons:
Samsung great hardware
The Phone has a huge support library
It is hella fast over wifi (you can get up to 21mb d/l speed)
If you like sense there are couple of roms that have it
Forget the win 7 unless you are into just using the phone then it pretty good
Or keep the Inspire and forget about the costs

Get the captivate, its its a great phone, i personally havent had problems with the gps. The dev community for it is great, plus theres the chance of getting wp7 ported with all this bootloader development

Well guys
Captivate was a used one..Thata bastered tried to trick me
Focus was new and all but im not sure about WP7
im gonna stick with the Inspire
the guy said he will get Iphone4 with gevey ultra in a week and i will have to pay 40$ more for the 16GB one
i might jump ship i dunno that Gevey ultra thing really seems to work...

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Android or wp7 mango?

I am confused on which would be the better os. I can upgrade and don't know which one to go with. I do some texting surf the web and play some games. Just wandering what other people think of the two systems.

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I am confused on which would be the better os. I can upgrade and don't know which one to go with. I do some texting surf the web and play some games. Just wandering what other people think of the two systems.
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They both have pros and cons. Android is the one to choose if you enjoy customizing you phone and messing around with it with some extra functionalities. WP7 is more usable out of the box and is smoother, but it's quite locked down as a platform. Anyway you describe yourself like a pretty average user, so it seems like WP7 could be a better option for you.

vnvman said:
They both have pros and cons. Android is the one to choose if you enjoy customizing you phone and messing around with it with some extra functionalities. WP7 is more usable out of the box and is smoother, but it's quite locked down as a platform. Anyway you describe yourself like a pretty average user, so it seems like WP7 could be a better option for you.
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I agree. Although, you might find that the openness of Android is a ton of fun. You might find yourself not so average after all. I suggest you play around with the phones at a store and get a feel for them.

Yes; openness begets depth, naturally. Guess it all depends on how you wish to use your device. Apparently, if you're looking for the smoothest homescreen, dialpad and keyboard response then WP7 is for you. If not, and willing to sacrifice microsecond differences, as well as a wealth of opportunity and option, Android might be more your thing.
Kidding aside, just depends on what you're looking for.
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sorry i don't know about mango..but android is the best ...

darenkan said:
sorry i don't know about mango..but android is the best ...
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Nice one, chicken.

If your really into games, Androids your choice, plus its got some pretty sweet music apps with customisable eqs, crossfade, you name it. Imo mango's more fluid as in smoother than Android
In the end it all depends on you. Why don't you check them both and see for you self

I'm checking Mango, it's quite smooth system, although I miss some features and freedom from Android.

i like android better, because of its many functionalities, plus you get a lot of free apps that makes your android experience better .

What carrier do you have? With sprint there is only one windows phone and i would tell you to choose most android phones over it.

My recommendation is for Android, open source and highly customizable.

For your needs, I'd go WP7. Android is better for those who want to tweak and hack their phones but if you want an overall better experience for the things you listed in your initial post, then I'd go WP7.

I actually bought and iPhone 4s, thinking UI fluidity was the most important thing, and while everything ran great I couldnt do everything I wanted I couldn't save links as, or download mp3s from websites basic things an Android can do. I ended up selling and getting gs 2 for sprint, it isn't as smooth but honestly I know now that it doesn't really matter because I can do anything freely. Most apps are free, great community support, free tethering removal of carrier iq etc etc I'm really happy with it. Windows is smooth as well but that just isn't enough these days
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I would (and have) gone with android with a HTC Sensation XE and i think personally android is way better than WP7

Sold my HTC HD7 last week cause the content is still far behind Android, there's not even a dropbox app on it
Maybe 1 year from now, i might consider again buying a windows phone but now it is still Android hands down. And Ice cream sandwich is coming. gpu accelerated UI and apps. Better animations so wp7's smoothness won't be so much of an advantage anymore. That's why i came back to android.
And the games for windows phone almost all are craps.

More device options with Android, Windows has better cloud capabilities.

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peacekeeper05 said:
Sold my HTC HD7 last week cause the content is still far behind Android, there's not even a dropbox app on it
Maybe 1 year from now, i might consider again buying a windows phone but now it is still Android hands down. And Ice cream sandwich is coming. gpu accelerated UI and apps. Better animations so wp7's smoothness won't be so much of an advantage anymore. That's why i came back to android.
And the games for windows phone almost all are craps.
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why dropbox when the cloud is integrated immensely well. Also, I've had much more fun on wp7 games than android plus I dig gamer points.

I was at at&t today and the looked at android and wp7 although wp7 looked smoother u really can't do much with it to customize. Now im getting android so does anybody know anything about lg thrill. Thanks for all the input.

I prefer Android by a large margin because it's open system, easy to customize, just works better for me. My present phone is an HTC Sensation but I also have an old HTC HD2 that is dual boot with both WP7 and Android and while I enjoy puttering around with Windows there is no way I could do without Android as my main phone OS.