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[REQ] Manilla sliding pages like iPhone

Hy Guys....
just a quick question to all Manilla Chefs out there....
i had the idea to edit the Manilla, when its possible, to get a Sliding Manilla...
i mean if you look at the iPhone, when you drag the Screnns to the side the next Screenwill smoothly slide in...
in Manilla, whipping with the finger on the screen just manilla jumps to the next page...
i think it shouldn't be the Problem to get the pages too slide, the bottom slider did the trick allready... just want this "goodie" on the hole manilla...
and i doenst need to get the greyed out and big tab Icons while sliding...
hope you understand what i mean...
just an idea but someone has some ideas or knowledge to did this trick!

I remember when the Diamond and Manila 1.0 first came out, there was an animation each time you changed tabs in Manila. It was deacticated later since it was way too slow and people wanted their TF3D experience fast and snappy.

its not very handy to have the slide function as per iphone as:
say you want to go to the second last page, the mannilla scroll bar allows to get there in a single controlled swype but if you had the page scroll like the iphone you would have to scroll through each page or scroll backwards (if its possible) to get to that page.
the point im trying to make is the iphone scroll may well look pretty but the single swipe manilla scroll bar is far more efficient! ask yoursel, is it usefull?

I understand that it wouldn't work very well if it were like the iPhone. Personally I would just like to see the animation back like it was when the diamond came out, I know it was slow then but surly out snapdragon should lap it up now?......

i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...

hey correct me if i'm wrong...
the 3d slide effects only happens on diamond when clicking a tab...
when sliding the figer over the tab bar it is like in sense 2.5 ... big curtain with big tab icon will apear??

futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Thats it, I want that back!! Looks so much slicker!!

hey again... i found something...
it wasent a tweak what disabled it...
it was htc himself...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2576833
tnyynt said:
No, fading effects were removed in latest updates to speed up transitions.
It's not due to tweaks, it's due to ROM update.
To get them back install older version of Manila with fade effects.
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but maybe its possible to get the animation back....

I agree, i think it looks crap when you swipe and tap and a tab and there is no animation. If it faded or slide it would be much better. Even the old style was really nice. I think it actually makes it feel more responsive too because its doing a animation while the page loads

futureshock said:
i can confirm that i had the multi swap idea earlier...
nothing to complain about that... this not as handy like now is...
but it looks more smooth...
i found a youtube video where you can see the "old" manilla style did this... its not just swipe the page... .. that was the cause because htc calls his interface 3D ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6TLqDcAJDo
look around 5:40 .... there the guy starts to use it...
maybe its still in the sense? only disabled as we did on tfl3d on diamond by our own? any one knows the keys anymore?? just searched the forum but didn't find something...
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Looks pretty slick! I'd like that back too.

Have a try with MaxManila 2.5 v 2.7 Main beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551489
This gives you the possibility to swype from page to page (from left to right or vice versa).

what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....

body85 said:
what??? Where can i set this in MaxManila??? It´ll delete the animation for the shortcuts... but i cant see an option for a page sliding....
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the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.

kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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........ok so u can slide without with from tab to tab... but the thread means a SLIDING ANIMATION...

would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?

kuzibri said:
the only way to find this out is to install MaxManila 2.5 version 2.7 beta. After that you'll see that you're able to swype from left to right or vice versa without using the "bottom icons slider". It also will not delete your shortcut animations. It even will allow you to hide the shortcuts and bring them back with a swype of your finger from bottom to top of the screen. Read the post of the OP carefully to understand what this theme does.
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ok doesn't really understand what you mean...
i can also swipe without maxmanilla without using the tabslider from page to page!!
just wipe obe the main aera...
what we want to get is an animation between the page slides...
dooing this now just jumps from one page to the other... not nice, and it feels and looks like a bit rough ... not as smooth as iphone did this... and i think the smoothnes factor that many iphones users evertime despite is this sluggish hopping page changing in manilla....
Microsoft did it a way better in the new 6.5 Starmenu... just look great and give a good feel...
also the Tab Slides is "animated" like we wannt... why HTC didn't do that onthe "mainpages" ???

loomx said:
would it be possible to take the animation files from the old manila and adapt them for sense?
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maybe yes...
its a starting point to look into an old cab and looks what manilla files did there...
but i'm far away from knowing the manilla depths that we need to implement them...
maybe one of the manilla gurus out there do the trick for us poor people

it would be so nice... if we can slide to the half...hold...and back... like in Iphone Today or Mobile Shell....

Which Theme . . . ?

I was using a theme on CM 5.0.4.1 and it allowed me to place shortcuts on the home screen in the lower left and lower right of the screen.
The shortcuts would appear in the location where the dots for navigating instead of swiping appear normally.
I wish I could add more detail, but that's all I remember. This feature was very convenient for me.
TIA for any help provided.
apologies if this is in the wrong forum

madhartigan said:
I was using a theme on CM 5.0.4.1 and it allowed me to place shortcuts on the home screen in the lower left and lower right of the screen.
The shortcuts would appear in the location where the dots for navigating instead of swiping appear normally.
I wish I could add more detail, but that's all I remember. This feature was very convenient for me.
TIA for any help provided.
apologies if this is in the wrong forum
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630659
This what you looking for?

Also...
nexTheme has Dialer and Browser at the bottom.
Ideally I'd like to be able to choose what fills the 2 slots, but I'm good with the updated launcher of nexTheme

McFroger3 - Not exactly, but that would definitely work.
JJackson9995 - I think that's the one. And I think I was able to long press on the dialer and launcher and replace them, or maybe I just filled the spots they were occupying on the bottom row with other shortcuts that I needed.
Either way, both of you have provided assistance that is greatly appreciated.
Thank you!!

madhartigan said:
McFroger3 - Not exactly, but that would definitely work.
JJackson9995 - I think that's the one. And I think I was able to long press on the dialer and launcher and replace them, or maybe I just filled the spots they were occupying on the bottom row with other shortcuts that I needed.
Either way, both of you have provided assistance that is greatly appreciated.
Thank you!!
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Sounds more like a home replacement? Home++ or something maybe? Don't think it was a launcher mod as I've yet to see one where you can customize the buttons down there without modifying code.

Porting Bottom Start button from WM6.5 to WM 6.1

Hello, guys!
You all are professionals and know almost everything about different versions of WM. I have one very important question: is there at least minimal possibility to port somehow this WM 6.5.5 feature - bottom start button to the old WM 6.1 firmwares?
Thank you very much in advance and sorry if this question is a foolish one

It's sort-of possible but would take a little work. Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).

Thanks for the answer!
littld said:
It's sort-of possible but would take a little work.
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I even can't imagine how it could be implemented... Don't you know if there already was some work for achieving it?
littld said:
Why not just use a 6.5 rom instead?
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Because it seems more slow to me. Official WM6.1 is very fast and simple as I see, faster than 6.5. I've tried a lot of 6.5 builds. But what I really miss in WM6.1 - is this bottom start button. If it be there - it would be the best firmware for all people like me, who like simplicity and usability instead of these huge slow animations and pictures.
littld said:
I think the greater challenge would be resizing the top bar (smaller) and the bottom bar (larger).
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Yeah, it's useful too. Would be nice if somebody experienced considered this interesting and made some investigation...

it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
It's no problem to launch the start menu. But changing the bottom bar is a *****! You could just overwrite the paint method as well. But this is not the full truth. The problem here is that every window got it's own bottom bar. So first you'd have to go through list of all windows/processes, retrieve it's menu bar and from there finally replace the window proc. Then you need to watch out and terminate your window proc if the application closes. And of course you also need to know if a new program is starting up. A nice-to-have feature of this solution would be that you can explicitely tell what happens when you hit the X button (hide or close) and don't need another hack for it.

Thanks a lot for your explanation, RAMMANN. It's very clear.
I can't do it by myself due to lack of experience. Well, the thing left is to wait if somebody experienced wants the same

Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm

RAMMANN said:
Well it's a project that probably involves A LOT OF soft resets during development. I was originally planning to make the WM 6.5.x bottom bar look like PHOTON (the WM 7 that got abandoned) but when I figured out it's not THAT easy I postponed the idea for the time being, and will rather start with a smaller project (enhancing bottom bar of WM 6.5 start menu). But I reckon this might still be a very interesting project! hmmmm
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Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
I think a decent compromise would be to set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs. If you install one of the start menu replacements (Green software) you can overwrite the start icon with something blank.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!

littld, thanks for your answer too.
littld said:
set the Start menu in your left bottom bar on the Today screen (pretty easy to do, just registry change) and use a button assignment for other programs.
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Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!

littld said:
Haha - that's exactly what I'd been doing years ago. I abandoned it as well, probably for the same reasons.
RAMMANN is right - a lot of work to repaint all those application windows!
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Well I didn't give up yet. I didn't even start dev for it. I just coded few lines to print something like "Hey your bottom bar is hacked!" in the Manila and start menu bottom bars. This is a very interesting project and has potential to allow a lot of things like Photon style or even an Android style bottom bar and I mean not only a standalone app like Androkkid but a full system replacement. I'm still looking around for an efficient way to realize this project and first things first so I'll be doing a start menu enhancement to warm up

J-Pro said:
littld, thanks for your answer too.
Could you please give some links to these tweaks? Thanks in advance!
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I don't have the links but you can search. You want an app called VJKeypress - one of the keypresses will launch the start menu for you. Make a shortcut (.lnk file) for it. Search for how to change the left softkey text and program (somewhere in registry) to the new VJ link.

Thanks for your answers, guys.
RAMMANN, when you have some progress on this project, please, update this thread. I think people would appreciate it.
Thanks again!

RAMMANN said:
it's easy to erase the Start menu link from the top bar. you can just overwrite the WindowProc and replace/enhance the WM_PAINT method and here you go.
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I know this is an old post i dug up here, but i was wondering how i would go about earasing the start menu link from the top? i'm using 6.5 and i want to totaly dissable the top start soft key. thank you

[REQ] Tweaks to remove Arrow Keys from Keyboard

Hi guys, I am not sure if many of you have this problem, but the arrow keys on the bottom row is really a pain, as it is just below the space bar.
More often than not, when I try to tap the space bar, I tend to accidentally hit the arrow keys below it, causing T9 to change to an alternate word.
This has been very annoying to me. I have done some search and found quite a few complains from the others as well regarding this issue.
I personally find no use for the keys to be there. and I believe same goes to most of you HD2 users.
Can I please ask for some help from the expert around to create a tweak or maybe some step by step guide to remove the arrow keys from the bottom row of the keyboard, making the keyboard shorter.
This is something that I believe will help many of us out there. thanks for viewing.
Your help will be appreciated!
PS: I have tried finger keyboard, but it still have the arrow keys, and i am having some problem with the suggesting contact names. I really hope some one could just remove the arrow keys from the original keyboard, as it is really good aside from the arrow keys being there. Thanks Again!

leejiahui said:
hi guys, i am not sure if many of you have this problem, but the arrow keys on the bottom row is really a pain, as it is just below the space bar.
More often than not, when i try to tap the space bar, i tend to accidentally hit the arrow keys below it, causing t9 to change to an alternate word.
This has been very annoying to me. I have done some search and found quite a few complains from the others as well regarding this issue.
I personally find no use for the keys to be there. And i believe same goes to most of you hd2 users.
Can i please ask for some help from the expert around to create a tweak or maybe some step by step guide to remove the arrow keys from the bottom row of the keyboard, making the keyboard shorter.
This is something that i believe will help many of us out there. Thanks for viewing.
Your help will be appreciated!
Ps: I have tried finger keyboard, but it still have the arrow keys, and i am having some problem with the suggesting contact names. I really hope some one could just remove the arrow keys from the original keyboard, as it is really good aside from the arrow keys being there. Thanks again!
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amen too that!

I would also like to see this happen.

me also

Maybe something like the HD Mini, it has a button to switch between having the arrows and disabling them.

chrisrj28 said:
Maybe something like the HD Mini, it has a button to switch between having the arrows and disabling them.
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ya maybe someone can port the hd mini keyboard for hd2

nirvanax said:
ya maybe someone can port the hd mini keyboard for hd2
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This would have the added bonus of freeing up more screen real estate. Or bigger buttons would be nice.

I would also love to see this happen.

The simple solution is for some third-party developer to design an alternative VK that finally utilizes the upgraded screen real-estate.
Android has tons of different keyboard layouts... developers just need to jump on-board with Windows Mobile.

Reignzone said:
The simple solution is for some third-party developer to design an alternative VK that finally utilizes the upgraded screen real-estate.
Android has tons of different keyboard layouts... developers just need to jump on-board with Windows Mobile.
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I hate the arrows as well... We need a project to start working on this

Hi me again. So has any expert programmer out there could please please help us out???
any guidelines would be good. Thanks!!

Search for Nikoan89 wvga keyboard v2.2. That has the function with arrows you want.. Its an old feature btw..

Correction. version 1 see to be better... Pressthe arrow button and magic happen on top of the kb..

Hi, Nikoan keyboard seems to be ideal, however after installing his WVGA cab, my HD2 wouldnt boot and was always stuck at the white screen with the HTC words. At 1 point I tot i have bricked my phone... coz i wasnt able to sync and re flash my rom. However i got it fixed in the end.

i too am looking for something like this as well as modifying the landscape SIP to put the cursor keys on the left side of the KB.
why?
cuz i have small hands/thumbs. if the cursors were on the left, there would be equal reach to the keyboard on both sides, unlike now where the right side is twice the length than the left due to the strip of hardware keys adding to the length of reach.
if someone could reorganize the stock (HTC) keyboard cursors:
1. in portrait: remove the row of cursors or place them along the TOP edge of the keyboard.
2. in landscape: move the column of cursors from the right to the left of the keyboard.
SPB and Resco charge $20-25 for their keyboard solutions. after trying both, i think they both suck and i'm glad i trialed them first.
therefore, i'm willing to pay/donate $25 to the first person who can meet both of my requested modifications without bugs.

I personally prefer those arrow keys to be there. Only because I find it annoying that when I type, and make a mistake, putting my blinking cursor-line right after the mistake only to hit backspace to delete the mistake, is annoying.
I just typed a mu|stake. ARGH! (Must put cursor between U and S in order to edit it. - Always a hit/miss)
Any tips?

[Q] Launcer Question with Main Keys to Left on Tablet

Can anyone tell me what launcher or how to have the main keys (back, home, widgets) placed to the left on the bottom of tablet (old style) being in the middle they are impossible to reach.
I have read hundreds of discussions to find an answer but no one seems to show how to do or where to find.
It looks like AOKP has it also the new ASUS 4.2.1 but they do not have the file posted yet for the ROM.
Running 4.2.2 at this time. NOVA also does not appear to have that function. Maybe I am not searching for the right terms?
Any help appreciated,
norm883