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I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.
As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.
I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )
Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...
Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
mrdata1701b said:
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?
Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
thedubya914 said:
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum
There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc
malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
alfredtv said:
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned
hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)
I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.
so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?
I was reading in the kaiser and diamond threads about Im clients an was wondering which one people would recommend but also I am overseas a lot and travel quite a bit with my job and was wondering if there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats? I ask this because searching has gotten me no where.
thanks in advance for any help
n3rv3 said:
I was reading in the kaiser and diamond threads about Im clients an was wondering which one people would recommend but also I am overseas a lot and travel quite a bit with my job and was wondering if there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats? I ask this because searching has gotten me no where.
thanks in advance for any help
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I personally use Plaringo, works fine for me.
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...there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats?
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Not available yet.
thanks any other IM clients that people like. sorry for this next question but how do i add plaringo or IM clients i used to use nokia and then went to iPhone and i had to sftp it on but then were do i add it at
there are a number of instant messanger clients out there IM+, Palringo, JiveTalk
I personally use IM+ and JiveTalk
JiveTalk is still in beta but it's pretty good and it's free
Palringo is free and it have a couple of pretty nice features
IM+ i paid for and have been using it has it's positive and negatives
i know there are a lot more out there
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well actually... there's one client that uses the front camera:
ever heard of Netmeeting? it existed way before msn and yahoo.. at that time we (only) had mirc and ICQ those were the days..
anyways microsoft made a netmeeting client por ppc which uses the camera.. never tried it, tho. and the software only works by connecting to an ILS server (much like netmeeting). if you've never heard of Netmeeting, just go to Star->Run-> Conf.exe
about the ppc client.. you can _try_ here: http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/
hf
Keland44 said:
there are a number of instant messanger clients [...] out there
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yups, I use Smaper (formerly known as mChat by mGSLab.com)
http://smape.com/smaperfiles/wm/smaper106w_pe.cab
It's not easy to find the file (or even the description) on smape.com; but with babelfish and some russian translating it's fine (the program is not russian, it's multilanguage)
still waiting for the devs to get filetransfer working again (used to work until june or so, mgslab.com server is routed to smape now) but everything else is fine (ICQ, AIM, jabber, MMP, MSN...)
EDIT:
www.mgslab.com is rerouted, http://pda.mgslab.com/files.html and http://pda.mgslab.com still working. smaper 1.06 is the newer one though, it's an improvement over mchat 2.3.0.x
just my five cents hth
iRiKi said:
well actually... there's one client that uses the front camera:
ever heard of Netmeeting? it existed way before msn and yahoo.. at that time we (only) had mirc and ICQ those were the days..
anyways microsoft made a netmeeting client por ppc which uses the camera.. never tried it, tho. and the software only works by connecting to an ILS server (much like netmeeting). if you've never heard of Netmeeting, just go to Star->Run-> Conf.exe
about the ppc client.. you can _try_ here: http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/
hf
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Tks for the link. When I click on it; it diverted to http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ AND Microsoft Portrait doesn't work on Kaiser http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387327
this is one of the things that rly angry me in the wmob world.
had that idea long ago when i bough my magician: we had gprs (33.6k baud was more then enough), we had a built-in camera, we have im applications, how cool was to webcam mobily?
and now after 3 years microsoft didnt even cared to pull a wrapper for the phone camera(s).
care to know why not? THE CARRIES! that way they couldnt pull out the astronomicall but lucrative rates on video-calling.
f*ck the exploited capitalism. america has to pay now
i use slick and it works pretty well also free
trying them out
i am trying all the ones that you guys said you like and i looked up aim and got AIM mobile but whenever i try to connect i get " Connectivity error 12029"
and i dont think my wifi is working correctly.. any pointers
qip.ru has a WM client that supports ICQ und Jabber. Im using it on ICQ and Google-Talk. Very stable an no other Problems, even if running for more than one day over GPRS.
ICQ
If you want ICQ-only client,Pigeon is the best on Raphael. I have tried any others,but they have problems playing sound notifications.
Pigeon fulfills all my requests on ICQ client perfectly:
- History in textfile and fast to read back
- Vibration and sound notifications working
- Easy and fast to use
- Nice design with cool smileys
Don't forget to prove whether you client stores some data on the client's provider server! Agile Mobile and Palringo both use a web gateway to connect to Jabber or ICQ. In both cases all your massages and passwords travel through foreign servers. This isn't really nice.
QIP 2040 works really fine on both ICQ und Jabber, and there aren't any problems with notification, vibration etc. And it directly connects to ICQ und Jabber-Server. So there is some privacy!
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Don't forget to prove whether you client stores some data on the client's provider server! Agile Mobile and Palringo both use a web gateway to connect to Jabber or ICQ. In both cases all your massages and passwords travel through foreign servers. This isn't really nice.
QIP 2040 works really fine on both ICQ und Jabber, and there aren't any problems with notification, vibration etc. And it directly connects to ICQ und Jabber-Server. So there is some privacy!
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Are you sure,QIP2040 is playing sounds correctly while in standby? My not.
Sorry for all,I forgot to write,that sound notifications won't play in standby(instead of Pigeon).
Yes, but I've disabled this cause of this anoying Uhoooh It still vibrates.
IM with video
Yo guys, still a bit confused here. Is there or isn't there a mobile IM application that let's you make mobile videocalls to MSN or Skype users?
No. See post #3, 8 and 9.
Pigeon! problems with Vibration
I just installed Pigeon on my Vario IV and everything's working perfect- besides notification with vibration. The sounds work perfectly...
Does anyone no what the problem is?
Do I have to mark both vibration modes or just one?
When I just pick one nothing happens.
Thanks for helping...
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I was reading in the kaiser and diamond threads about Im clients an was wondering which one people would recommend but also I am overseas a lot and travel quite a bit with my job and was wondering if there is an IM client out there that utilizes the front facing camera for chats? I ask this because searching has gotten me no where.
thanks in advance for any help
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I've always used IM+ (not free) but had a chance to try Beejive and I vote for Beejive plus it's free.
Received an email from Fring.
Hello fringsters,
As you may have noticed, Skype has blocked fring. We are very sorry for any inconvenience this Skype policy has unfairly caused you.
As loyal fring users, you deserve an explanation: Last week, following the surge in fring video calling traffic, fring service to Skype was temporarily reduced . Unfortunately, Skype and their legal team demanded not to restore your connectivity to Skype via fring.
Needless to say, we are very disappointed that Skype is now trying to muzzle competition, even at the expense of its own users.
While we regret Skype's decision to block fring, we are committed to continuing to provide you with market-leading innovation, to keep you in touch with your friends, wherever they are.
On fring you can freely use the best mobile over internet communication like video calling, calls and chat anywhere (3G/4G/WiFi) on any advanced Smartphone.
So, if you are frustrated like us with communication barriers, and are just looking for a fun and easy way to stay in touch with your friends on the go, tell them about fring andinvite your friends to join fring here
We appreciate your support and look forward to continuing to provide you with great mobile innovations.
Let freedom fring!
the fringTEAM.
That´s bad!!!
So Skype is gonna release an own Android version ?!
No idea who is telling the truth...
http://blogs.skype.com/en/
there is no truth to Fring’s claims that Skype has blocked it. Fring made the decision to remove Skype functionality on its own.
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Fring probably wants users to use their service and not skype's service. But I have no sympathy for Skype. They choose to lock down their software to a carrier.
BTW, this is posted in wrong forum. it should be in general discussions.
now that thats done, does anyone know how I can make voip calls to a LANDLINE while I'm in another country? I'm having trouble finding something.
You can still use Nimbuzz to access Skype though I've had some voice delay/lag issues sometimes with it. It's always crystal clear, though.
Also, didn't Skype recently release a new API and SDK? Shouldn't some enterprising developer be able to use that to make something that doesn't suck?
I had a horrible experience with Nimbuzz, calls stopped receiving input apparently.
The person on the other line (also using Nimbuzz) would stop hearing what I said, and visa versa. This was really frustrating as it could happen randomly from 1 minute in or 5 mins in etc.
It would be working fine then just cut off suddenly, the call would keep running fine, just no audio...
Had to hang up and try again, but happened every time without fail, with both HSDPA and WiFi.
It's why I had to switch to fring, as Skype isn't available ¬¬
Well, i guess nimbuzz is the ONLY client to call landlines without the nightmare of sip settings in fring, no?
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I had a horrible experience with Nimbuzz, calls stopped receiving input apparently.
The person on the other line (also using Nimbuzz) would stop hearing what I said, and visa versa. This was really frustrating as it could happen randomly from 1 minute in or 5 mins in etc.
It would be working fine then just cut off suddenly, the call would keep running fine, just no audio...
Had to hang up and try again, but happened every time without fail, with both HSDPA and WiFi.
It's why I had to switch to fring, as Skype isn't available ¬¬
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Wow yeah that's pretty bad.
Nimbuzz is definitely less than ideal, but I've never experience that with it. The audio quality has always been great, but as I mentioned, sometimes when I use it to use Skype to call a landline there gets to be a wicked delay, as if I was talking to someone on Mars or something. I was never sure if it was Nimbuzz's fault, or if it's because I'm calling from Thailand.
tonyx3 said:
Also, didn't Skype recently release a new API and SDK? Shouldn't some enterprising developer be able to use that to make something that doesn't suck?
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I found this page, maybe someone is interested to use the Skype communication protocols...
Skype's Biggest Secret Revealed
enrupt.com/index.php/2010/07/07/skype-biggest-secret-revealed
It seems Skype may also be crippling Nimbuzz use:
http://forum.nimbuzz.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=i36kpf41rd3egj72citb7kohr0&/topic,4995.0.html
Boohoo, fring can't piggyback on skype.
While I don't like how skype is acting in regards to android and it's product, fring has to leg to stand to whine about not being able to use skype anymore.
Thems the breaks.
Skype has Andorid version but they will not release to public. It is because Skype with an agreement with Verizon Wireless and it will only avaiable to Verizon clients.
How about users outside US. Verizon has no service with another country such as Canada. What can we do? Skype and Verizon are doing something doesn't make sense.
If I live in US, I will never go to Verizon..............
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Skype has Andorid version but they will not release to public. It is because Skype with an agreement with Verizon Wireless and it will only avaiable to Verizon clients.
How about users outside US. Verizon has no service with another country such as Canada. What can we do? Skype and Verizon are doing something doesn't make sense.
If I live in US, I will never go to Verizon..............
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Skype has a deal with UK network 3 I believe. Their HTC Desire has Skype according to their site.
Is there an application that is similar to Google's voice actions application, but offline, for when I don't have service?
bikcmp said:
Is there an application that is similar to Google's voice actions application, but offline, for when I don't have service?
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did you find the application? i know there is one, but i cant find it now. been searching for almost an hour! if you find it pls pm me
Voice command was the selling point to me and I was really shocked to know it required internet connection to work..Do I really need internet to say “”hey Galaxy..call wife mobile” ???? This is ridicules GOOGLE.
Such a nice device and very $$$$$ and they screw up like that
Vlingo
Hello girls and boys,
Like you, I was yesterday looking for this frantically as I have just got an Android device as my work mobile and have an old Windows Mobile 6.5 phone (Touch Pro2) as my personal mobile which runs Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and can do quite a bit without needing to touch the handset (illegal whilst driving in the UK). I have to say; I was finding it difficult to believe that with all the awesome power of a Desire S when compared to the TP2, why is it I can't find an offline voice command application? Google's Actions are great yes, but does it REALLY need server side processing for these commands? I then came across a forum where someone suggested Vlingo and no-one really acknowledged the post. What a great app! Totally free, works with bluetooth headsets and actually does speech to text as well WITHOUT needing to be online.
I suggest you guys take a look as it seems to be a great piece of software that's pretty well written. http://www.vlingo.com
berabi said:
Hello girls and boys,
Like you, I was yesterday looking for this frantically as I have just got an Android device as my work mobile and have an old Windows Mobile 6.5 phone (Touch Pro2) as my personal mobile which runs Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and can do quite a bit without needing to touch the handset (illegal whilst driving in the UK). I have to say; I was finding it difficult to believe that with all the awesome power of a Desire S when compared to the TP2, why is it I can't find an offline voice command application? Google's Actions are great yes, but does it REALLY need server side processing for these commands? I then came across a forum where someone suggested Vlingo and no-one really acknowledged the post. What a great app! Totally free, works with bluetooth headsets and actually does speech to text as well WITHOUT needing to be online.
I suggest you guys take a look as it seems to be a great piece of software that's pretty well written. http://www.vlingo.com
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Thanks bro for your help but unfortunately even vlingo now requires internet connection.
http://swathiep.blogspot.com/2011/02/offline-speech-recognition-with.html
this can work but i dont have linux and a can not complime it.. i believe somebodywill make a apk file and i can install it
Cyberon voice commander
No internet needed, according to this
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cyberon.cvc.AME&hl=en
Also check out: "command this" app
Good luck
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
voice commands?
there's an offline speech in the 4seassons rom, that worked ...
but i'm not able to use it in others roms ..no idea what ...
did anyone try it out?
i used to use Cyberon Voice Commander, recorder my voice and i could assign it to open applications or dial friends. its not free though...
VoiceButton works offline
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Is there an application that is similar to Google's voice actions application, but offline, for when I don't have service?
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You can try my app. It works offline. Application is named VoiceButton. You can find it in GooglePlay.
I think this is what you need.
Hi to all,
i bought a blackview 6000, endowed with a PTT button.
I would like to use that key as a real walkie talkie, without the need of internet connection and that uses radio channel/fm waves instead of the web, so that it would also be compatiblie with normal (analogic?) walkie talkie.
Is it possibile? is already there an app that does this?
On the phone box there's a QR that redirects to the app Zello, but it need to be online, unfortunately
thanks in advance for any sort of help
Have a nice day
There are phones which have this hardware built in, runbo x5 etc, but I do not think the BV6000 has got this hardware built into it. I'm 99% sure of this as I did quite a bit of research and thought about buying one.
Without the UHF hardware, you are chasing a ghost. Zello and other apps are all you can hope for.