I'm about to root my new NS and every guide I see reminds me that the internal storage ("SD card") will be wiped - I'm cool with that. But since I'm unrooted I can't use Titanium yet to back up my apps.
So my question is - once I root, what's the best way to get everything back without manually doing everything all over again?
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I'm about to root my new NS and every guide I see reminds me that the internal storage ("SD card") will be wiped - I'm cool with that. But since I'm unrooted I can't use Titanium yet to back up my apps.
So my question is - once I root, what's the best way to get everything back without manually doing everything all over again?
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I see a lot of people say appbrain lets them easily reinstall all their apps after a wipe. Apps, but not app data.
Not sure how that works, i haven't tried it myself. edit: little google search revealed this on how to do it:
Without root, there's no way you're going to save your data that's on the internal storage space.
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I see a lot of people say appbrain lets them easily reinstall all their apps after a wipe. Apps, but not app data.
Not sure how that works, i haven't tried it myself. edit: little google search revealed this on how to do it:
Without root, there's no way you're going to save your data that's on the internal storage space.
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Yeah I just read some more about it - apparently it's just not at all possible yet, or ever.
Oh well better get to rooting before I have TOO much to lose.
fchipm said:
Yeah I just read some more about it - apparently it's just not at all possible yet, or ever.
Oh well better get to rooting before I have TOO much to lose.
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Yeah, that's why I'm an early rooter on all my phones.
App developer's should be encouraged (or allowed by Google) to put their app data into someplace that the user can back up.
I wonder if the reason app data is put in a root-only read place of the device by default is part of the sand-boxing security.
Best backup before root
The only thing I really had to hunt for was to backup Angry Birds. Thankfully there's an app called Angry Cheaters that is both free and gives you save files for Angry Birds.
I just went through this process yesterday. Google actually saves most/all of your apps and will reinstall when you reenter you gmail address. It also restored my wifi passwords (in addition to obvious things like email/contacts). Just be careful if you have to wipe multiple times while exploring root that you let this process do its thing, it forgot a few apps that way. Thankfully appbrain had moved all of my previous apps to another list.
The only other thing I couldn't back up was some auto mileage data, so I just wrote that into notepad and called it a day.
Is there anything else you are specifically trying to get? I was really only focused on Angry Birds.
Hmmm here is a question/thought
If unlocking your bootloader whipes everything clean, would it be a possibility to run data harvesting apps on the device to get w.e data you lost back?
both on the "sd" and /data/data
I use an app called "rsync backup" ... it can generate a DSS key to install on your server of choice, and tell it to back up /mnt/sdcard/ ... the only thing it won't access on the USB Storage area is a folder called ".android_secure" ... but everything else copies just fine.
I routinely sync my phone with this app to my workstation at the office, and a system at home.
haha.. this is why i unlocked the bootloader/rooted my s right away, i didnt have any data to back up. makes it painless
simms22 said:
haha.. this is why i unlocked the bootloader/rooted my s right away, i didnt have any data to back up. makes it painless
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Kinda wish i did this, but oh well.
Still curious if my idea is even possible..anyone have any input?
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I am new to Android but experienced with PC's C++ etc.
Anyway, a quick question. I bought a g-tab today. Immediately installed clockworkmod and TNT lite. All is good and I am having fun.
Is it easy to switch roms without losing my userdata (passwords, bookmarks etc).
I would like to try other roms and don't want to create more work than I need to.
Oh and the viewing angles are acceptable to me as the user
I have been using Titanium backup without any issue for doing it
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I am new to Android but experienced with PC's C++ etc.
Anyway, a quick question. I bought a g-tab today. Immediately installed clockworkmod and TNT lite. All is good and I am having fun.
Is it easy to switch roms without losing my userdata (passwords, bookmarks etc).
I would like to try other roms and don't want to create more work than I need to.
Oh and the viewing angles are acceptable to me as the user
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Yes, Titanium backup!!!
Yes, use Titanium Backup to do Batch backups of Apps and Data before you try other ROMs. I also do a full Backup in Clockwork before I try something new, in case I want to go right back to where I was.
ok thanks guys. New to Android so getting up to speed. I must say very smooth process getting it up and running and tweaking it so far.
I noticed the slower boot time with tnt-lite but last boot it seemed faster. I think it was mentioned in the docs.
It might be interesting if there was a poll for which roms people prefer.
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ok thanks guys. New to Android so getting up to speed. I must say very smooth process getting it up and running and tweaking it so far.
I noticed the slower boot time with tnt-lite but last boot it seemed faster. I think it was mentioned in the docs.
It might be interesting if there was a poll for which roms people prefer.
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Your First boot is always going to take some time as there is alot going on in the background that you can only see if you are watching Logcat via adb. After the first boot, boot times should drop unless a large number of apps have been installed.
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Titanium Backup is awesome, but would be nice if there was a big "Back up All System/Data/Apps" button on the main menu. That's pretty much what everybody wants it for right?
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Titanium Backup is awesome, but would be nice if there was a big "Back up All System/Data/Apps" button on the main menu. That's pretty much what everybody wants it for right?
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You wouldn't want to restore system data with Titanium anyway. This is not recommended especially when changing roms. Apps and their data are okay. I make full system backups with Clockwork and backup my apps and data everyday with Titanium. My titanium is linked to dropbox so returning from a repartition/reformat is easily done as well.
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You wouldn't want to restore system data with Titanium anyway. This is not recommended especially when changing roms. Apps and their data are okay. I make full system backups with Clockwork and backup my apps and data everyday with Titanium. My titanium is linked to dropbox so returning from a repartition/reformat is easily done as well.
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Since you have experience with this, is there a way to force TB to send the backups to my external SD card? Copying it there manually is not REAL difficult, but it is an extra step.
nunjabusiness said:
Since you have experience with this, is there a way to force TB to send the backups to my external SD card? Copying it there manually is not REAL difficult, but it is an extra step.
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Not that I know of. Its easier for me to setup the free dropbox account and link Titanium to that. I have the same account on my laptop so it automatically uploads from my tab to dropbox and then downloads to my laptop
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Not that I know of. Its easier for me to setup the free dropbox account and link Titanium to that. I have the same account on my laptop so it automatically uploads from my tab to dropbox and then downloads to my laptop
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I just got a dropbox account since it looks stupid-easy to do it that way.
I had the same problem as many with the missing gmail widget. Here is how I fixed it:
Apps / Settings / Privacy / Factory data reset
PLEASE NOTE this makes your tablet as if it was brand new outta box so please backup any data you don't wanna lose. Everything took me about 10 minutes to get setup again and the gmail widget is now listed under widgets and working once again. Market synced all my installed apps from market back automatically.
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I had the same problem as many with the missing gmail widget. Here is how I fixed it:
Apps / Settings / Privacy / Factory data reset
PLEASE NOTE this makes your tablet as if it was brand new outta box so please backup any data you don't wanna lose. Everything took me about 10 minutes to get setup again and the gmail widget is now listed under widgets and working once again. Market synced all my installed apps from market back automatically.
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Thank you!
thats unacceptable for those of us who actually use this device for more than just the programs included with the stock rom.
nfodiz said:
I had the same problem as many with the missing gmail widget. Here is how I fixed it:
Apps / Settings / Privacy / Factory data reset
PLEASE NOTE this makes your tablet as if it was brand new outta box so please backup any data you don't wanna lose. Everything took me about 10 minutes to get setup again and the gmail widget is now listed under widgets and working once again. Market synced all my installed apps from market back automatically.
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Does that action delete/ format your files in the TF? How about the files on my SD card?
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It wipes everything off the TF and what your left with is a brand new 3.1 installation. It didn't touch my microsd cards data. I know this is not an ideal solution for the power users out there but it may help out some until Asus issues a fix.
Deletes data off the internal storage, but not the sd card.
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thats unacceptable for those of us who actually use this device for more than just the programs included with the stock rom.
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it's called backing up your data and reinstalling your apps. It's a very common thing to do.
download app list backup from the market, that will give you market links for all of your installed apps, and you can download mybackup pro to backup some data.
and BTW, to everyone doing this, backup your internal memory becuase it will be erased as well to my understanding.
going to go ahead and do this when i get home tonight.
Fyi by default Google backs up your app data. So it should automatically redownload the apps you had and have all your settings. Unless of course you pirated them, at which point you're not allowed to complain
The backup/sync option is meant to only restore ones you purchased via the market, not free ones. Although honestly, it's restored a few of the free ones (not all) I've installed too, the last time I reset, so I'm not sure what to think any more.
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The backup/sync option is meant to only restore ones you purchased via the market, not free ones. Although honestly, it's restored a few of the free ones (not all) I've installed too, the last time I reset, so I'm not sure what to think any more.
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For me it restores my free ones as well (I have 2 paid apps and 50 free ones, it restores them all).
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The backup/sync option is meant to only restore ones you purchased via the market, not free ones. Although honestly, it's restored a few of the free ones (not all) I've installed too, the last time I reset, so I'm not sure what to think any more.
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it restores all free ones for me
magicpork said:
it restores all free ones for me
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same here - all of my apps were reinstalled once I did rebooted. The vast majority of them were free.
magicpork said:
it restores all free ones for me
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Note that it does not restore app data. You need root for that and Titanium Backup and if you have root there are other ways to get the widget back. Any save states (ie. completed levels in Angry Birds etc..) will be lost. Any settings and such as well. I'm not saying don't do it, but just getting that out there for those that don't know. 'Restore' is really the wrong word for this, it's just re-installing so you don't have to.
Sounds like they've changed their policy then if it's restoring all apps now. That's certainly welcome news.
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Note that it does not restore app data. You need root for that and Titanium Backup and if you have root there are other ways to get the widget back. Any save states (ie. completed levels in Angry Birds etc..) will be lost. Any settings and such as well. I'm not saying don't do it, but just getting that out there for those that don't know. 'Restore' is really the wrong word for this, it's just re-installing so you don't have to.
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Exactly why I said factory reset is an unacceptable solution.
Titanium backup or backup pro isn't a solution because it requires root to backup app data, but if you have root you could force install Gmail widget directly without factory reseting in the first place
It is an issue to factory restore things, because there is no way to back up app data without root.
For example, playing games on your tablet, there is no way to recover that saved file unless there is root
Thats why I believe, factory resetting is the last resort resolution and really isn't a fix..
And they always make rooting so difficult, but obtaining app data to restore later or just to backup is the best part of root
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Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
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Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
Every previous version could be rooted without losing data but it seems nexus S cant be after the latest update. I have so many games it would be so sad to lose all my scores and saved progress. So what are we supposed to do?
Back up with Ti Backup and restore app+data?
You can root without loosing data if you already have the bootloader unlocked. If not, do as the upper post said, Titanium backup and backup apk+data
But I thought titanium backup doesnt work for non-rooted phone??
My bootloader is locked.
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Back up with Ti Backup and restore app+data?
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That won't work. /data is not accessible without root permission. Some games have data stored on the sdcard, many do not. Until something is released (if it ever will be, considering the ease of rooting a nexus s), you don't really have options to keep your saves.
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But I thought titanium backup doesnt work for non-rooted phone??
My bootloader is locked.
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Oh lol, nevermind, forgot about that. Then i guess you're pretty much out of luck...
Like Harbb said, backup the SD since some games save the games in the SD card (like gameloft games) and the rest is lost.
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That won't work. /data is not accessible without root permission. Some games have data stored on the sdcard, many do not. Until something is released (if it ever will be, considering the ease of rooting a nexus s), you don't really have options to keep your saves.
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Ah. Read it wrong. Probably shouldn't be drinking and giving advice. Haha.
This may be worth a try since you're pretty much out of luck saving your data with a locked bootloader. In the Settings, go to Backup & Reset, tick the checkbox "Back up my data" which I think will back up your apps data and other settings to your Google account. Be sure to tick the "Automatic restore" checkbox too. I would wait a while (maybe at least a day or so) for it to back up your apps data to Google servers. When you re-install the app from the PlayStore using the same Google account, I think it will restore your apps data. I never tried this before. If it works, awesome. Maybe try it out by uninstalling a small app with user data, then install it again to see if the data is restored.
Does not restore app data like your game stats etc.
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This may be worth a try since you're pretty much out of luck saving your data with a locked bootloader. In the Settings, go to Backup & Reset, tick the checkbox "Back up my data" which I think will back up your apps data and other settings to your Google account. Be sure to tick the "Automatic restore" checkbox too. I would wait a while (maybe at least a day or so) for it to back up your apps data to Google servers. When you re-install the app from the PlayStore using the same Google account, I think it will restore your apps data. I never tried this before. If it works, awesome. Maybe try it out by uninstalling a small app with user data, then install it again to see if the data is restored.
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While it might manage to save some kind of data, i've tried it a couple of times and got little beyond my wallpaper back (however it was nice to get my wallpaper back ). I believe you can see all of the data it saves on your Google Dashboard.
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Maybe try it out by uninstalling a small app with user data, then install it again to see if the data is restored.
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Already tried.
Wow look what I found.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
Has anyone done this successfully with the nexus S???
Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
tomplatz said:
Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
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This is a biggest issue Google hasn't provided a solution for. You can't backup an android phone unless you root... [emoji1418]
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Any decent apps anyone has found? I know TB level backup not possible
System settings and all app settings backup is hard. Usually, Samsung Kies, mobile data manager software, etc just help us back up data like contacts, text messages, photos, videos, music, apps, etc. Of course, there is no need to root Samsung phone before using them.
tomplatz said:
Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
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Keep in mind once you unlock bootloader then KNOX will be permantly disabled and apps like samsung pay, samsung pass, encryption and some more will no longer work after this and even if you re-lock bootloader the KNOX will still be unavailable since it's so called safety thing in chip has ben cut so it becomes permanently hardware disabled.
So think before doing it, if you plan to use samsung pay and pass and such later on then avoid unlocking the bootloader.
Also warranty will be voided too.
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tomplatz said:
Is there a way to back up everything before a wipe that restores well? The ones i've tried miss system settings and all app settings have to be reset. Titanium Backup was awesome but requires root., but something like that is what I'm after
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The best you can do is use the SD card as your data drive. All mission critical data goes on it.
Therefore no PC or internet connection is needed for a full restore. No wasted time transferring data from the PC or cloud.
All critical data, photos, vids, music, documents, settings backups for apks that let you, contacts and copies of all loaded apks and updates.
I use ApkExport to make copies of all my apks and system updates so after a reload I don't need Playstore and know exactly what to load, fast.
Get at least a .5 tb card so all the data used by the phone can easily fit plus 100 gb headroom.
I pretty much hit the ground running and a reload is 99% complete in about 5 hours with no loss of critical data.
Not copying settings for some apps and especially system settings is a better plan as any bad settings don't get carbon copied. Manual set up also keeps you in aware of what does what. Plus you will find and learn new tricks like this.
I reload about every 6 months to take full advantage of the new optimizations I incorporated since the last reload. Invariably you play with trash apps trying to find the good ones and the poorly written ones can leave a mess behind. It's simply impossible to weed out all the trash and subtle misconfigurations that happen over time.
A reload takes out the trash.
Each reload should get you a couple steps closer to device perfection.
Once you have a fast, stable platform be very cautious of any firmware or OS updates as it only takes one to wreck everything. Many times an "upgrade" turns into an ugly downgrade.
Many app updates are useless or wreck the the app as well.
No reason to fix something that ain't broke... once optimized leave it be.
Find something else to play with.
Just install Samsung Smart switch on your phone. And back up to the SD CARD.
You'll still need to setup individual apps but you will keep system settings.
pcriz said:
Just install Samsung Smart switch on your phone. And back up to the SD CARD.
You'll still need to setup individual apps but you will keep system settings.
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Thank you.
I forgot about this app.
Last time I used it transfering from a S4 to the 10+ it was a terror. However it should do much better on the same model/OS.
16 gb took 10 minutes to backup to a fast card plus you can see and edit its saved files.
The icon layout will be lost if it saves the theme/icon pack I will wuv it to death...
It should save some time... if not I'll reset again:laugh:
The legendary Tom Platz. Now that's a blast from my past lol
Limeybastard said:
The legendary Tom Platz. Now that's a blast from my past lol
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I have big legs too. Seemed to fit.
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I have big legs too. Seemed to fit.
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I'll take your word for it. No need for pics. ?