[Q] Stupid question about rom backups - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since the NS has 16g internal memory and no card, how do I set it to backup roms, pictures, music, etc to a different location than the internal memory? If I wipe every time I install a new rom, won't that destroy the old backups, etc?

iinviktus said:
Since the NS has 16g internal memory and no card, how do I set it to backup roms, pictures, music, etc to a different location than the internal memory? If I wipe every time I install a new rom, won't that destroy the old backups, etc?
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A wipe shouldn't erase your internal sdcard. You have to select format sd card to do that. Exception is when you do the oem unlock of the bootloader.
That said, I always transfer a copy of my nandroid backups to my laptop or my dropbox, just in case...
edit: the internal sd card is treated by the OS the same way an external card is on other phones, it's mounted as a different partition.

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[RANT]Mount Points for Internal/External Storage

Can we please all come together and agree on how to mount internal/external storage?
I had Bionix flashed and downloaded a new rom from a different dev. I rebooted into recovery and did the usual wipage before flashing to the new rom... except I forgot that Bionix mounts the SD card under External SD (I'm used to CM7), so every Android app sees the internal storage when saving files, instead of the external SD card. So now I have to reinstall an old rom just so I can re-download the files and move to SD card in order to flash the new rom.
This is getting ridiculous. I really don't care where the mount points are, I just wish they'd be consistent among the different devs.
*steps down off soap box*
I agree with you. Although I'd rather stick with the stock scheme of /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD. JM2C
I wouldn't. I'd rather the SD card be "SDCARD" and the internal storage be under mmc.
The thing is stock roms have it screwed up. They have SDCard as internal and SDCard/External as the micro. Plain confusing. Why have the microSD card as a folder on the internal.
They both need separate locations. The good thing about having the SDCard as the microSD card is that programs that usually write data to that location would be saving it to the removable disk vs internal storage. For Example Launcher Pro stores its backup to /SDCard. If my phone screws up or takes a swim... my LP backup is gone vs the microSD card would likely survive.
I say put the internal storage on MMC like CM has it. Load it up with music or videos and be done. Let the apps install backups and data to the microSD card so they are secured across devices.
Honestly, coming from a N1, I don't even know what to do with the 8gb internal storage. I'll probably throw my music on there to free up space on my 16gb microSD.

Recovery Backups

So Synergy has been the first rom that I installed on my phone. Now, if i make backups on ROM Manager, and decide to flash to a different rom, say cyanogen for example. If I wipe all of my data, which I would assume is my best choice of action when flashing to a new rom, will these backups that I've made on the SD card be saved or will they disappear with the rest of my data? Should I buy a micro SD to store all of those on or can i even do backups to the external sd card?.
Also, when making Titanium backups, are those something I want to store on an external SD? Or can i restore from places like dropbox? I appreciate any input.
I flash roms three times, and wipe user data every time.
The data on internal sd card is safe.
But I think backup to external sd card is much safer,so I get one(32G) :laugh:
And yes ,Titanium and clockworkmod can backup to external sd card,change the Titanium backup store path and look for cwm menu!

Internal sdcard getting full

Curiously wondering why my internal sdcard is now saying I only have 5gb of storage space available.
I have a 32 GB Samsung galaxy s3 I have no music or pictures stored on my internal card. Seems like it all started when I went to a cm10 ROM then back to a touchwiz.
Maybe ther is a method I could use to format the internal storage and start from nothing?
Use DiskUsage to see what is using up your internal memory. You can use cwm or twrp to format internal memory.
I did find a 3gb movie that I had placed on the phone to watch. So based on disk usage. I have 16gb of system data and now 10gb free
Occasionally you might have to format your internal card if you switch flash many different roms as they tend to live "residuals" behind. Then there is the renaming of sd folders when you switched to aosp roms
If I decide to format the internal sdcard is it simple, reformat, reflash ROM backup? Or should I set everything back to stock first?
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Make sure you manually back up all your data(pics, documents, music, files, etc.) that you want to keep. Then format internal memory. I would remove the external sd card to be on the safe side.
I am not sure about restoring rom backup. When I do format my internal card, I usually end up flashing a new rom (with the whole wipe data, cache, and system procedure).
Hopefully someone else can answer that question about restoring rom backup.
Did you backup your system ie nandroid with cwm or something like titanium bu? Hoe many times did you do if you did? Which back up utility are you using?
And download Storage Anlyser from play its the BEST way to find the big files.
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(with the whole wipe data, cache, and system procedure
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Always wipe.
I've not formated the internal card yet, when I do new ROMs I only factory reset phone, cache, delvik then install new ROM.
My method of backing up my apps is by using my backup pro, but I do keep backups of my ROMs just by booting into cwm then backing up.
I want to format the internal card, but that's something I've never did. Which makes me worry about losing needed phone drivers.. Etc.
Also I'm not sure if I'll lose root or my recovery.
You will not lose root, recovery, or drivers, It is basically formatting your micro sd card, but instead it is your internal "sd card."
You will definitely need to manually backup the data you want to keep from your internal memory, either by connecting to a computer and copying to your computer or by copying them to the micro sd card.
I now have 25.6gb free space on my internal card

With no SD Card, how do we flash ROMs and stuff like that?!

With all rumors pointing to no sd card on the S6 how do you flash ROMs?? I ask this bc then everything (pics, app/data, nandroids, flashables, etc.) will all have to be stored on the phone's internal sd card. So when you clean wipe your phone for a fresh install wouldn't everything just be deleted, including the ROM you were gonna flash lol?!
All of my previous phones have had sd cards so I'm inexperienced when it comes to no sd card!
JoeFCaputo113 said:
With all rumors pointing to no sd card on the S6 how do you flash ROMs?? I ask this bc then everything (pics, app/data, nandroids, flashables, etc.) will all have to be stored on the phone's internal sd card. So when you clean wipe your phone for a fresh install wouldn't everything just be deleted, including the ROM you were gonna flash lol?!
All of my previous phones have had sd cards so I'm inexperienced when it comes to no sd card!
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Good point, howcome really
Nope: the wipe data of custom recovery don't delete all from internal storage only apps and data.
Albe95 said:
Nope: the wipe data of custom recovery don't delete all from internal storage only apps and data.
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What about when you wipe system, data and internal SD? Cuz on my S5 when I wipe all that my whole internal SD gets erased lol.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
What about when you wipe system, data and internal SD? Cuz on my S5 when I wipe all that my whole internal SD gets erased lol.
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Then hope that your custom recovery support MTP connection when phone is in recovery (like TWRP do).
i rooted and installed a custom rom on the lg g2 which doesnt have a sd card slot, only internal memory. its simple just download the roms to the internal memory and when youre in recovery dont wipe the internal sd card and all the downloads will be accessible in recovery and you can install it from there
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What about when you wipe system, data and internal SD? Cuz on my S5 when I wipe all that my whole internal SD gets erased lol.
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One solution: don't wipe the internal SD. There's no need to do that to flash a ROM.
Alternative: use a flash drive and an OTG cable. I use this method for nandroids and ROM flashes with my current phone, which has no SD slot.
Large Hadron said:
One solution: don't wipe the internal SD. There's no need to do that to flash a ROM.
Alternative: use a flash drive and an OTG cable. I use this method for nandroids and ROM flashes with my current phone, which has no SD slot.
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Do all phones/recoveries support that?? If so, that's y saving grace! :good:
Why are you guys wiping internal SD card? that's where all your photos, videos, downloads, etc gets stored.. its pointless and not necessary with any rom flash. Unless your going back to the gold card days.
All recoveries including TWRP comes with a advance wipe option.. just choose "Cache, Data, and sometimes system" every time you flash a new rom.
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Do all phones/recoveries support that?? If so, that's y saving grace! :good:
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Not all phones, but as this is the S6 section I assumed the question related to the S6, and also that since the S5 supports it the S6 will too.
Likewise can't speak for all recoveries, but a quick web search will answer that. TWRP does on my device.
Sweet... Looks like I might get the S6 after all!! Who knows maybe it will have a sd card slot even lol.
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What about when you wipe system, data and internal SD? Cuz on my S5 when I wipe all that my whole internal SD gets erased lol.
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You don't wipe internal SD. Simple. My past 4 phones haven't had SD cards, never an issue. Just get one with enough storage for your needs, I personally never fill 32gb.
Large Hadron said:
One solution: don't wipe the internal SD. There's no need to do that to flash a ROM.
Alternative: use a flash drive and an OTG cable. I use this method for nandroids and ROM flashes with my current phone, which has no SD slot.
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I don't wipe internal unless I want to start from scratch. Heavy TiBu user. 128 gig baby... ?
you wipe the internal SD to clean out all the crap Apps leave behind.
Use a usb adapter stick with storage I did that also with my g2
USB OTG
YoungAceAtlanta said:
Why are you guys wiping internal SD card?
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They must be newbs.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
With all rumors pointing to no sd card on the S6 how do you flash ROMs?? I ask this bc then everything (pics, app/data, nandroids, flashables, etc.) will all have to be stored on the phone's internal sd card. So when you clean wipe your phone for a fresh install wouldn't everything just be deleted, including the ROM you were gonna flash lol?!
All of my previous phones have had sd cards so I'm inexperienced when it comes to no sd card!
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Such a facepalm question. I guess many other phones cannot flash roms too due to lack of SDcard, such as the Nexus 5 and 6.
No Micro SD or removable battery truly sucks. So no extended battery and I can't use my 128gb Micro SD card :thumbdown:
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What about when you wipe system, data and internal SD? Cuz on my S5 when I wipe all that my whole internal SD gets erased lol.
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In that case you have to flash the whole stock rom and after that reflash recovery + copy rom in intsdcard + flash all

How to format sd like internal storage?

Hi guys is there any magisk module or flash for twrp so that i could install apps on sd card with datta and obb something like apps2sd
Enriquex69 said:
Hi guys is there any magisk module or flash for twrp so that i could install apps on sd card with datta and obb something like apps2sd
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You should read this thread about moving apps to external storage:
Unable to move Apps to SD Card Samsung A20 on Android 10.
New phone and new SD. I just added an SD card to my A20. I formatted the SD. I have transferred files (varying types - videos, images, pdf, etc) to the SD. I can see the files if I connect the phone to my laptop. (My point here is that I'm pretty sure the SD card is OK.) Now I'm trying to move...
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Sorry if it's not the answer you were looking for.
It's not a good idea; the SD card access speeds/transfer rates are slower than internal memory. The data buses don't support the speeds that given to internal memory.
Use internal memory for the OS, apps and the temporary download folder
The SD card as a data drive; all critical data, backups, movies, music etc go here.
Backup the SD card at least to 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other.
Use a fast SD card for best results.

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