Besides the NFC and the Gyro, I believe it was advertised that NS have the Barometer, but I have checked the built in apps and also apps on the market, seems that none uses it? Is there any simple app that let me have the barometer reading?
Uh where did you her this?
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It was in a lot of news when it first came out, however it is not in google's spec page
http://www.google.com.my/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nexus+s+barometer
So its false? that NS does not have barometer?
ykphuah said:
It was in a lot of news when it first came out, however it is not in google's spec page
http://www.google.com.my/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nexus+s+barometer
So its false? that NS does not have barometer?
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No but Gingerbread has an API to support one:
Gyroscope and other new sensors, for improved 3D motion processing
Android 2.3 adds API support for several new sensor types, including gyroscope, rotation vector, linear acceleration, gravity, and barometer sensors. Applications can use the new sensors in combination with any other sensors available on the device, to track three-dimensional device motion and orientation change with high precision and accuracy. For example, a game application could use readings from a gyroscope and accelerometer on the device to recognize complex user gestures and motions, such as tilt, spin, thrust, and slice.
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cosimoss said:
No but Gingerbread has an API to support one:
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What would one use a barometer in a mobile phone for
I thought barometers measured atmospheric pressure, which is usually used to forecast weather. In a phone that has a million ways to receive live weather updates from reliable and high-tech weather stations, this seems a bit pointless.
It would be nice to have an app that publishes pressure readings. I think having an accurate realtime map of this information can help a lot in local weather prediction. What about a seti like app for weather prediction?
everyone needs one to run around like would be storm chasers
Altimeter
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Yep! You beat me to it. My sports watch/heart rate monitor (Suunto T-6c) has an altimeter in it (must be barometer based) to track altitude.
I suppose the GPS in our phones can do the same thing; seems like neither technology is particularly accurate at altitude in our consumer level devices, though.
Well, for one moment I thought that Google will use all the barometers in our phones to predict weather that will be more accurate than that of the stations!
Barometer for altimeter seems pointless since gps position querying a map program can find out for you...
So you want a barometer, well you'll have to get one of these:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/10/motorola-xoom-to-boast-barometer-budding-meteorologists-have-fo/
Anyway, was anybody able to use barometer in Nexus?
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Something that records distance, average speed, total height climbed/descended, graphical outputs of speed v distance etc?
I've found a few different programs, but nothing that's amazing.
Anyone have any ideas? Cheers.
Lemme know if you find one u like, k?
Have you tried Memory Map. I use for hill walking and provides everything you ask for. Needs to be on Windows Mobile device.
Have you tried RunGPS?
I tried VisualGPS, TurboGPS and some other free ones and they are all kinda lousy for tracking stats while jogging. But RunGPS looks like it will work well. I downloaded it but I haven't taken it on a test run yet.
Yeah, Memory Map is good, but it doesn't do everything that I'd like. For example, I don't think you can get an graph of your speed v time etc, or elevation v time (like the application on the N95). It is very good for navigation though.
I'll have to try RunGPS.
James, have a look at TerraTrack, it's reasonably good. It gives you a colour coded route depending on speed etc. Not quite perfect for what I'm looking for though, but probably the best so far.
Hi,
Memory Map is okay. It will provide a track of where you have been, average speed, total ascent/descent, distance travelled etc. However, it is fairly limited in that it is not really designed for that. It is primarily a navigation tool.
The best thing I have found and use (only recently though) is RunGPS which Andy suggests. It is specifically designed as a training tool with a bit of navigation bolted on. It basically has a few main screens. They are
Recorder:- this is split into 8 areas where you can display speed, distance, altitude, calories, av speed, max speed etc. There are quite a lot of choices here to display so it is very customisable for your needs.
Navigation:- shows a map with a cursor following your route. You can import Google Maps or use open maps (mainly show roads so not great for off road navigation). Like memory map it will allow you to follow pre planned routes. It also has a compass on this screen.
Map:- basically a full screen map.
When riding you can record laps (ideal for timing yourself up your local favourite hill) and you can even set it up to race yourself over your favourite routes. Each run can be imported into Google Maps if you want to share where you have been with friends. There is even a web site where you can upload your routes.
A good feature of it is that you can produce a training report for each run you do (produced on a web page). It gives you a breakdown of the run based on
Speed
Calories
Altitude
Map of your route
The main recording screen has large buttons for starting and stopping your training and a split/lap button. You can set it to give an audible report of your speed, distance etc every 5, 10, 20 minutes (I use this on the road bike as I have my phone in my pocket).
Certainly for anyone riding competively it gives you most of the info you would ever need to analyse you training. The only thing you don't get is heart rate. However, you can sync you heart rate readings with this software.
Basically this software gives you all the info you would get from a cycle computer or one of the Garmin devices on your phone.
Have a look at their web site, it has screen shots and you can trial the software for 14 days.
Regards
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James, have a look at TerraTrack, it's reasonably good. It gives you a colour coded route depending on speed etc. Not quite perfect for what I'm looking for though, but probably the best so far.
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I'll take a look at it, thanks.
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Hi,
The best thing I have found and use (only recently though) is RunGPS which Andy suggests.
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I am just floored on how well the GPS works with rungps. I ususally am stuck waiting for a minute at least while in clear view of the sky to connect to GPS with google maps, Microsoft Live, visualgps, turbogps, and a few other free ones I cant remember the names of,,,,,but with RunGPS is connects in a seconds even if I'm not outside............
I cant wait to take it out for a jog tomorrow.
Thanks for the detailed post! I've had a play, and it looks perfect for what I want, thanks for the suggestion! Do you know what the difference between "cycling". "mountainbiking" and "race-biking" is?
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Thanks for the detailed post! I've had a play, and it looks perfect for what I want, thanks for the suggestion! Do you know what the difference between "cycling". "mountainbiking" and "race-biking" is?
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I could pretend to be all knowledgable here however to be honest I had not noticed the other options!!
I would hazard a guess they are linked to the calorie side of things. I was actually thinking about that today when I was out on my mountainbike slogging up a muddy track at 3mph. Obviously riding up a similar hill on the road would expend less calories so I am guessing the formula that works out the categories allows for this.
I guess cycling is perhaps for general leisure riding and race biking is for going a bit harder.
Regards
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I could pretend to be all knowledgable here however to be honest I had not noticed the other options!!
I would hazard a guess they are linked to the calorie side of things. I was actually thinking about that today when I was out on my mountainbike slogging up a muddy track at 3mph. Obviously riding up a similar hill on the road would expend less calories so I am guessing the formula that works out the categories allows for this.
I guess cycling is perhaps for general leisure riding and race biking is for going a bit harder.
Regards
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I thought this too at first, but surely calorie count is basically very similar regardless of the bike used? Sure, the bike's weight and efficiency will have an effect, but not enough to warrant 3 different cycling settings? You would use more calories pushing harder, but that would be reflected in your speed readings from the GPS?
Either way, cheers for the info about the software. Just what I was looking for
Hi,
Yes between cycling normally and racing on the road their should really be no difference.
However, you go considerably slower off road because of the conditions, so unless the program knows this it will think you are going less hard than on the road. Without a heart rate input (like on a Polar or similar) the program can't really know how hard you are pushing based purely on speed and altitude gained or lost.
Regards
I use Vidaone's (www.vidaone.com) MY Sport Training, this is quite an indepth program, with GPS / Polar HRM plugins also with a Windows Synchable desktop part.
I believe that they also do a diet app that also interfaces with My Sport Training.
SC
Or sportypal, almost the same type as Rungps, but with more options, and easy way for setting up goals.
Is there somewhere to calibrate the barometer that I am missing? I was under the impression that the xoom barometer compenstated for my altitude and gave me a reading based on that. It seems to be giving me the sea level pressure that is approx .5 lower than what my local weather station gives.
Wait, the Xoom has a barometer? Awesome. Any apps to take advantage of this?
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Wait, the Xoom has a barometer? Awesome. Any apps to take advantage of this?
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The only apps I am aware of are WeatherBug and Barometer HD.
I'm nearly finished with my Barometer app. Will be finished in a day or two, and includes both a regular app and barometer widgets.
XDA will be the first to know about it when I publish it
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I'm nearly finished with my Barometer app. Will be finished in a day or two, and includes both a regular app and barometer widgets.
XDA will be the first to know about it when I publish it
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Can you give us a hint on the features or are you going to keep us in suspense?
I even have barometric pressure calibration off-set on my Casio Pathfinder so I hope your new app coming will have that feature - looking forward to it And a trend chart please
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I'm nearly finished with my Barometer app. Will be finished in a day or two, and includes both a regular app and barometer widgets.
XDA will be the first to know about it when I publish it
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can you please form some type of graph so we can see pressure trends?
From what I know...an individual pressure reading is pointless if you can't see the trend of increasing or decreeing pressure
I've developed the application with a solid framework behind it, so a graph feature should be made available later. As I think it is better to provide features iteratively this is planned to be available in the next version.
Right now it contains various traditional barometers (e.g. http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-ph...brass-with-white-face-isolated.php?st=dffcb3d) and one which looks like the Honeycomb clock. As you can see from the first dial it has a black hand which shows the current value, and a red hand which stores a value. The position of the hand containing the stored value is set by tapping the widget.
I'll see if I can post a screenshot later today.
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I've developed the application with a solid framework behind it, so a graph feature should be made available later. As I think it is better to provide features iteratively this is planned to be available in the next version.
Right now it contains various traditional barometers (e.g. http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-ph...brass-with-white-face-isolated.php?st=dffcb3d) and one which looks like the Honeycomb clock. As you can see from the first dial it has a black hand which shows the current value, and a red hand which stores a value. The position of the hand containing the stored value is set by tapping the widget.
I'll see if I can post a screenshot later today.
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Thank you for that......from what you described above, it seems as if only the last reading can be saved to be referenced
how about multiple saves? Thanks again for developing this!
That will have to come in a later version. I work 100%, or really more like 150%, and this is hobby work, so I cannot guarrantee when these features will be made available, but I have planned the following:
-Graphing feature
-Ability to calibrate the barometer
-Ability to see trends in the graphical widgets
-Sharing via social media
I've planned an introductory price of $0.99 or equivalent for other currencies. Is this reasonable? As barometer is only available in the Xoom the market is limited.
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That will have to come in a later version. I work 100%, or really more like 150%, and this is hobby work, so I cannot guarrantee when these features will be made available, but I have planned the following:
-Graphing feature
-Ability to calibrate the barometer
-Ability to see trends in the graphical widgets
-Sharing via social media
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I totally understand! Thanks for the great work
First of all, sorry for hijacking the thread rkboid!
One last message: If someone want to beta test the app, send me a message. I just discovered a memory leak which I'll have to fix, but hopefully I should have a beta available tomorrow.
Shouldn't this thread be in themes and apps?
dscribe: No, I think it belongs here, it's just that I shamelessly hijacked it for a while. But I've now handed it back to rkboid
To answer the original question: I don't think it is possible to do a system-wide calibration of the barometric sensor, but it is definitely possible to do in applications.
I'm reading 951mb at around 550 metres (Canberra, Australia), this doesn't sound right?
Pressure QNH at the local airport is currently 1021.1hPa
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60903/IDN60903.94926.shtml
I'm hoping my Xoom barometer isn't broken. It sounds way off.
I am at ~5000 ASL, and would be happy to test the beta, esp. as regards to offset.
Check out barograph and pressurenet
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hi, this is my first app, I will be very glad to your feedback and comments, support for Google Play
Digital Thermometer is beautiful online thermometer which provides actual outside temperature and other weather parameters such as pressure, humidity, wind speed and time of sunrise/sunset. All this uses different color styles for various cases.
Digital Thermometer let you see the outside temperature and other parameters directly on the screen of your device, it is very easy and practical to use and saves you time.
Also the app can provide temperature of the air by using a built-in temperature sensor if your phone has it, otherwise the application use the sensor of the phone battery.
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Recently upgraded to S3 and am loving it. I've never been into designing watch faces as I usually just want functional but with the altimeter / barometer options, I thought I'd had a go. The face is simple (bit like me really) / minimal as battery life is important but I'd like the option to display altitude on the watch face. I have added a picture and configured it as a button to open the Barometer / Altimeter app but I'd love to have the data on the face itself. In reality, I'd prefer a link to the widget rather than individual setting but that doesn't look possible.
There is reference on various forums to various APIs that allow you to access the data but I can't figure out how they would function, nor can I figure out how to incorporate an API call with the image interaction in the designer.
Any help / guidance appreciated.
Did you ever get the Alt/Baro to work on the face?
Hi,
I want to do a little survey about redesign my app. Somebody may remember it - Elevation Tracker (here you can find some info: https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/themes/app-elevation-tracker-gear-app-store-t3635451). I'm using it for a year and I want to find out if there will be enough interest from users.
Mission
To make the most out of the Gear S3's barometric data.
Default Altimeter has nice design, but it's not so practical.
Features
Algorithm for automatic recognizing of altitude change due to movement or barometric change due to weather. Example: You are sitting in the office for 4 hours withnout movement, than took a lunch in the kitchen - two floors higher, then come back for another 4 hours. The weather changes during the day, raining...
Samsung's altimeter: Shows growing the altitude, because the pressure decreases. Looks like you ascended 50m, descended 6m.
This app: Altitude is polished by Suunto algorithm (rule = alti change less than 2 meters in 2 minuts is marked as weather change). It shows you exacly ascended 6m and descended 6m. Graph is clearly flat when you are sitting, ignoring weather changes.
Ascended and descended elevation counter in selected interval. You can go 30 days back in precision of 1 minute. Of course, only if Gear S3 is turned on. Otherwise, gap if filled by flat line.
Using the bezel, you can read single altitude at specified time (date pickers, time pickers implemented). At specified time, you can calibrate altitude, which is taken as reference point for whole selected interval.
Graph shows MIN / MAX.
Main problem
It's not possible to support Tizen OS 2.3 and 3.0 at the same time. That's the reason I deleted the app from store. I updated it to support OS 3.0, but many users are still on 2.3 (I don't know why). Samsung did there very very bad job, unpossible to support both OS at the same time. Also, OS 3.0 is full of bugs for developers, but that is another story...
I like the circle graph. But most of you don't. So I want to add other layouts, recommended by you!
What I need from you
Do you want to use this app? Are you using Tizen OS 3.0? (app will not support OS 2.3)
Please help me with layout, post here some samples. It is easy to redesign the app now, because I have working core. But when I look at Garmin Fenix 5 or Suunto Spartan (see layouts in attached files) altimeters, I'm not sure if that is what the most pople want.
What another function you would like to see in the app?
Donate would be nice - in XDA profile The app will be always free, as it's mainly for me
Other...
My idea of using this app is:
-You are on trail and you can switch Gear S3 to offline mode with display turned off. At evening, in basecamp, you can analyse altitude data. Or event after 30 days!
-During working day, you can easily track when did you used elevator, went the steps etc...
The process of loading a new data (when you select new interval):
1. Graph of barometric pressure[blue] ->
2. Graph of calculated altitude[orange] ->
3. Graph of polished altitude[green], now bezel is enabled.
Thank you so much for ideas!!
Hey mate,
i've been here on XDA for a while now, but you got my attention enough to finally make an account.
I'd love to support you and your app, but first of all, it needs to be downloadable in Europe (Gears S3 frontier, without LTE).
As a gliderpilot this App could be a real help.
Some ideas include:
- Increase and decrease of altitude (in ft/min and m/s)
- Warning at: above, below, passing through a certain height
- Time between heights (interesting for high altitude hikers as well, like: above XXX ft for YY minutes)
As a pilot I also would like to see the glide slope, but this wouldn't fit into this app.
I'd like to offer my help as developer. I'm goood in C#/Photoshop but never have written something for Tizen. I would need some advice.
Otherwise i could offer a donation (but prefer to work^^)
Greetings
Diego
Hi Diego,
thank you for your post!
About developing for Tizen - it's a bit nightmare It is not difficult, the problem is OS bugs and no compatibility between different versions of OS, which cause bad reviews, which caused suspend of my apps in store. I want to support only latest OS for Gear S3.
Overall, it's not a problem to code your ideas at all. I'm using chart.js, where it's possible to graph almost everything.
I'm using this app a lot by myself, but I deleted it from the store, because OS 3.0 has a bug with rotary bezel (bezel is frozen after date/time picker shows) and I don't want to receive bad reviews. I may rename it as "beta" and post it again...
About your effort, it would be really helpful to design a layout in Photoshop. Than I can try to code it.
As the app is now working in history mode (browsing collected data (1 sample minute)), I would imagine splitting the app for
REAL-TIME mode (new)
HISTORY mode
So, what do you think about making some layouts?
Thanks!
Really interested in this app for Tizen 3.0.
Will it be available in the app store at some point?
Hi Dev,
Thanks for your work.
I used and installed your app, but as many users say, the 360 deg chart is counter-intuitive and ended up uninstalling.
I very much prefer the Suunto one, Garmin in second place.
Altitude charts always with linear x-y axis in my opinion, very intuitive.
Have you considered using altitude data based on location (like Strava does) instead of relying on barometric changes?
If the chart was linear I'd be happy to use again and donate.
IIRC, it was somewhat intricate to pick the timespan for the chart -don't remember the details.
Thanks
Hello,
but many users are still on 2.3 (I don't know why) => because there is not Tizen os 3 on some devices (Gear S2 for instance).
I’ve just reset my watch because I have to change my phone.
There is no way to get all old apps
Dashboard Watchface and altimeter for exemple disappears from my watch and there is no possibility to get it from Galaxy store.
What a shame. This is planned obsolescence.