Forgive if already answered (couldn't find anything) i have installed clockworkmod and have rooted my tab is there a way i can still install any new stock updates that might come from Viewsonic
thanks
At this rate the updates to vegan etc are coming out way faster than viewsonic updates and are including performance enhancements along with the bug fixes so i am not sure the loss of the ota are of major concern currently.
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OK so I've got root but I'm not sure at what point do you lose the ability to receive updates from Asus? Can I flash CWM and still receive updates? Or is it only if you flash custom ROM?
Are you able to flash OC kernal and still get OTA?
Just don't want to lose functionality and updates with this being such a new product.
Thanks guys!
you need stock recovey for the ota updates to work correctly...so if you have cwm, it's best you turn off updates. updadtes will also cause you to break root.
don't worry about missing out on updates though. the devs typically get the updates merged into their custom roms quickly enough (typically 1-2 days). and if you're rooted but stock, typically, those come even sooner. you'll probably miss out on 1/2 to a day or so of "i got the newest update" gloating, but IMO, it's worth it with all the benefits of rooting.
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I have been searching on the forum and Google but no answer. I had a Sprint Galaxy S3 and it was rooted with custom recovery Clockworkmod. After an update was available I could not install the update, failing with the message "verification failed" when trying to apply the official update file. I couldn't find an answer so I went back to stock recovery.
Now I have a verizon S3 and I would like to back up an image of my phone with clockworkmod but I would like to be able to update, especially with the looming jellybean update coming soon. Did I miss a way to install the updates to the official rom with clockworkmod? Or was it simply not possible.
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I have been searching on the forum and Google but no answer. I had a Sprint Galaxy S3 and it was rooted with custom recovery Clockworkmod. After an update was available I could not install the update, failing with the message "verification failed" when trying to apply the official update file. I couldn't find an answer so I went back to stock recovery.
Now I have a verizon S3 and I would like to back up an image of my phone with clockworkmod but I would like to be able to update, especially with the looming jellybean update coming soon. Did I miss a way to install the updates to the official rom with clockworkmod? Or was it simply not possible.
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With most custom Roms...being able to do OTA updates is blocked because it could interfere with the rooted Rom you are running...its more or less a safety feature for that purpose. If you want to get the new Jelly Bean OTA update, you will have to flash your device back to unrooted stock and it should work just fine...as long as ur rooted, you wont be able to, if im not mistaken.
Thats true, and there is the whole bootloader thing! Now that we have all hacked away our bootloaders, the OTA just won't happen. Hopefully an easy relock becomes available for the vzws3 before that update is released, but I wouldn't panic - big red will probably release it to us after everyone else has gotten it and out phones are outdated! In general though, within a week or two of an official large release, the amazing devs on this site will have a downloadable version available for us to manually install.
If you have modded your phone, never try to take a OTA update. At the least you will lose root abilities. At the worst, potential bricking of your device.
Usually before, lol, if not just after a OTA, the devs have working release for our devices.
Take it easy, relax.
Hi all,
I recently rooted and installed a custom recovery per Jay Dogg's guide in the Galaxy S Relay. Development forum. I kept my stock ROM by choice and recently ready up on the recent Jelly Bean OTA update (MC5). I'd like to update but the official OTA update states you can't be rooted. I downloaded the update via Settings/About phone/update. Upon choosing to update, the phone rebooted to my custom recovery. It stated the certificate on the package was invalid so I backed off and just rebooted. I'm guessing my options are :
- Revert to an unrooted stock ROM, update to 4.2 (MC5) and re-root.
- Attempt to apply the official OTA update via custom recovery despite its complaints of certificate issues.
- Apply a non-stock or ripped ROM (not preferred at this point)
Can someone help me? I would like to avoid the hassle of unrooting, but that's probably my best option as far as I can tell. Any feedback is appreciated. I'm happy with the stock ROM's stability for now and don't really want to deal with the bluetooth / camera issues present builds of custom ROMs have.
Hey community,
after updating my 5.0 LTE 32 Shield Tablet some month ago and rooting it, I came to the conclusion that I don't really need root, but would like to continue receiving OTAs and have a device that just works.
Prio1:
Have a tablet with the latest updates installed.
Prio2:
As 1, but rooted.
I have made a apps+sysapps backup with Titanium.
What do you recommend as the next step?
Thank you very much.
All the best, Esshahn
Some additions:
1. I noticed I'm actually having 5.0 on my Shield. It's the 5.0.1 update plus the nVidia stuff that comes up all the time in the notification center.
I really just want to undo all root and whatnot actions and have a right out of the box experience on my Shield. I already did some stupid stuff (factory reset) and therefore lost my personal data anyway, so there's nothing to lose.
I noticed this forum isn't really active. If anyone doesn't know the answer, but could point me to the right forum for help that would be nice too.
Thank you
flash the full OTA through recovery: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-2-17-15-/post/4464815/#4464815
then reinstall supersu through recovery, no factory reset needed
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
Esshahn said:
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
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you can flash the full OTA through TWRP or CWM, no idea why it won't work with stock recovery though
the update supposedly fixes the graphics glitches that appear in various apps on update 2.1, that might be a good reason to update
Thank you!
Actually, since I didn't have CWM installed anymore, I just sideloaded the latest OTA, which worked nice.
I have successfully rooted my note 12.2 - thanks to this awesome forum.
With that I can't do OTA or use Kies to stay up to date. So I'd like to know how I can stay up to date as Samsung releases new firmwares? For example I just downloaded the newly released 5.0.2 from Samobile and flashed it with Odin 3.09. That went well but of course it wiped my machine so I'm starting fresh again. I'd like to be able to stay up to date with out a complete re-wipe each time if possible. Thoughts?
As a long time root user I can tell you that the cardinal rule is that one should give up the notion of getting OTA updates for good once one roots for the simple fact that with each major OTA update comes the risk of losing root forever should the update lock the doors on the exploit used to gain root to begin with.
Casual root users are best served by watching forum threads after updates are released to see how more experienced users are fairing with getting their devices up to date. The exception to this is if a custom ROM is installed and the developer updates the ROM periodically to integrate the updated software or features that the device manufacturer releases. Even then, if a major update is released that let's say jumps to a new system like kitkat to lollipop there's a chance that a full wipe can't be avoided. ROM developers typically warn users when clean installs are required, and some even distribute their own OTAs.
I'm a religious user of titanium backup, and I will often dirty flash a ROM update or use prior titanium backups to restore data but this can be risky business when major updates are released because if software or drivers change from one major firmware release to another a backup of a particular application may no longer be compatible and stability may be affected upon restore.
Bottom line, if you want lollipop on your note pro, rooted, can live with the current bluetooth issues and want to be able to update further easily while retaining root then go with a custom ROM like civs and just monitor the thread of that ROM for updates.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the excellent advice. One two more more question on the topic. I had root on KitKat, but after flashing the new stock Lollipop via Odin, I lost root. So after installing the stock Lollipop I had to re-do the root flash via Odin to get root back, thankfully it all worked out. (Lollipop is awesome BTW).
Questions:
1. Was I in danger of forever losing root as you state above or was this a safe route? I understand that OTA and even Kies can make me lose root forever, but what about flashing a stock via Odin?
2. Are you saying that next time there's an update I could try to dirty flash the ROM via TWM (after doing a good backup via Titanium of course)? Basically find ROM on samobile, download, copy to SD card and dirty flash away using these suggestions: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/sthr8/dirty_flashing_what_it_is_and_is_not_lets_set_the/
Typically to keep root the stock recovery is replaced with a custom one, TWRP is the main one used for our device. Stock updates from Samsung downloaded as OTA will typically fail to flash in TWRP. Odin flashing stock images will erase everything including the custom recovery, thus causing loss of root. In other words you'll typically lose root one way or another and the key to retaining it is to not blindly update until a root method is ensured for the next version of firmware. Resign to the fact that with each update you will temporarily lose root and need to redo it. Plan ahead, wait for root confirmation and then update with a plan of how to get root again.
I typically don't TWRP flash stock so I don't know if it works but in the distant past I recall that it wouldn't so thus I never try. Maybe someone can confirm. For me I haven't updated firmware on my note pro for a year now and I am not missing anything. ..
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