2 touch points in g tablet? - G Tablet General

I have tried several apps with multitouch (Phone Tester, android-multitouch-controller...), all of them show that the gtablet has a maximum of 2 touch points in the gtablet.
I am using the Vegan-tab 5.1, anyone has better results? Is it a hardware or a software limitation?

Dont know if its a hardware limitation, but as I posted in another thread before, this is "normal" imo. I have tested a Droid, Droid Inc, Evo, and the Gpad. Every device else Evo, has 2 finger detection. Evo has 5.
Cheers

Htc G2 has 4 finger detection just fyi
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Wrong section I would think..

xBANGx said:
Wrong section I would think..
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not if its a software limitation and there is opportunity for development...

renau said:
I have tried several apps with multitouch (Phone Tester, android-multitouch-controller...), all of them show that the gtablet has a maximum of 2 touch points in the gtablet.
I am using the Vegan-tab 5.1, anyone has better results? Is it a hardware or a software limitation?
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I've already looked into this in the kernel source code, if that's what you're asking.
It's hard to know for certain, but it appears to be a limitation of the microcontroller code for the touchscreen subsystem, based on the at168 driver code. The raw capacitive sensor readouts are done by this microcontroller, translated into up to two sets of X and Y coordinates, and read in by the driver.
There is some unused data in there - the driver is relatively simple, and we could try debug dumping out everything it can read from the Atmel chip, and see if some of that unused data could prove useful, but I am skeptical that we'd have any luck without re-programming the Atmel. That requires a microcontroller person to figure out, not me.

pmcnano said:
Dont know if its a hardware limitation, but as I posted in another thread before, this is "normal" imo. I have tested a Droid, Droid Inc, Evo, and the Gpad. Every device else Evo, has 2 finger detection. Evo has 5.
Cheers
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Evo has either 3 or 5, depending on the touch controller revision (literally 4 characters of hex). I got pwned when I traded in my faulty 002/Nova/.76hboot for my new 003/Nova/2.02hboot... LAME.
Anyway, toastcfh did a thread on it back when they were first figuring the evo out.

Moved to general

mmm. Interesting. The kernel has the option to load new firmware to the atmel chip. These are fairly easy to program, the problem is that we do now have the original code.
Did anyone find specs about the display? If this at164 chip just does the touch display, it may be possible to recreate the firmware if we have the hardware specs.
It may be interesting project,

The at164 kernel code only handles 2 touches, but if you see the driver capabilities (AT168_Capabilities), it sets the handler to 2 fingers *MaxNumberOfCoorReported". This value is written to th nvram that the AT168 reads.
Did anyone tried to change this value? (Something like 4)
The AT128 I2C registers may change when the NVRAM changes. If I were the designer I would have read the capability, and added as may AT168_X/Y pos as necessary. This will shift the registers, but it may be interesting to check.

I have the 002 Evo model and I only have 2 touch points. I would love to have more for certain apps that use more. Is there a fix for this? I've seen many people say that their Evo has 4 or 5 points. Is there a way to update to a newer version?

So I've been doing research on the Gtab on this issue because although it's a great device, I really want something that can do more than 2 inputs. so far what I've found is that the touch sensor in this device is the tango S32 controller shown by this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10062618&postcount=134
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/149/digitizerx.jpg
I found the companies main website and found some interesting facts about the chip. Firstly they don't have a number of touch points listed and it also says the max screen size the chip handles is 5" (maybe this is compensated because the gtab has 2 S32 chips).
http://www.pixcir.com.cn/e-product.asp?classId=2
http://donar.messe.de/exhibitor/007...1/links/20090226153411-DS TANGO-S32 Brief.pdf
All the videos I've seen concerning the s32 chip have only shown 2 touch points and knowing that there are plenty of android devices on 2.2/2.3 that support more than 2 points I believe I've come to the conclusion that the Gtab is limited to 2 points at a hardware level.
Anyone want to confirm or deny?

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Iphone app emulator...

Is it possible to create an iphone app emulator for android?
Sorry for my bad english...
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This question has been asked before and before.
Not possible.
Skye Menjou said:
This question has been asked before and before.
Not possible.
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everything is possible
Not this, don't believe what your mom told you when you were five.
Its possible to emulate an Iphone OS on Linux so how can u say its not possible? It is! But i think to heavy for this "little" community ;-)
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Iphone OS on Android Phone
Zitat von Autarkis
You would need further:
* exact type of processor: type, version, frequency
* exact type of GSM hardware, including version and subversion PLUS an appropriate radio flash or source therof or something making the Radio stuff work
* architecture of memory / flash
* chip and version of the USB subsystem: EHCI, OHCI or UHCI ?
* video chip: type, architecture, speed, version
* chip and version of the WiFi subsystem PLUS the orginal manufacturer's firmware
* sound chip: type, version - how does it interact with the GSM Radio subsystem?
... and so on, and so on. It would be nice to have a test cell tower simulator. But then, who would'nt like to have one?
Once you get this data (it's probably easiest to get an original schematic - from the manufacturer or from somewhere else), you can check each of the hardware components if they're supported in Android, if not, if they are supported in Linux. If not, you might be able to code them yourself.
Brace yourself. This will be a project using up about 1-5 man-years (and I'm talking about 5 days / wk, 8-hour days, not 1-3 evenings a week) depending on the amount of hardware support that already exists. Furthermore, it will be beyond a lot of peoples abilities (including mine) to assist you in any way. This is one hell of a tough job you're facing (barring the magical event that the phone accidentally is virtually a G1 clone. ).
I guess what I'm saying is: It's not worth the trouble. Once you've done all this, Android 5.0 will be running World of Warcraft II

[SOLVED] Do both i9020 and i9023 have the NFC chip?

Hello everybody,
according to this thread and that one and to many other sources I found on the web, the differences between the two model variants i9020 and i9023 (the "original" Google Nexus S), only concern non-NFC-related things.
However, today I read several times (most popular source: Wikipedia article about Nexus S) that only the (more than twice as expensive) i9020 has a NFC chip onboard. I am pretty scared, cause I just ordered the i9023 yesterday and was happy about that good price (280euros) ... the i9020 on the other hands costs around 700euro here in Germany.
Maybe some of you (already owning a i9023) can shed some light into this. Thanks in advance!!
pbyte
I have nfc on my i9023. ;-)
These typos was sent from my Nexus S [I9023]
I have NFC-chip in mine too.
Too bad I can't use it for anything.
Good news! I hope that Samsung didn't change something in models that were manufactured very recently.
@mrhaxx1 Why not? As far as I know at least Read-mode is enabled by default, whereas Write-mode, P2P and Card Emulation modes are supported by the NFC chip, but disabled in Google's (custom build) pre-installed Android version. Is it possible to re-install another Android build in order to enable the whole stack?
Yeah my i9023 does. Even in oz, although I haven't been able to use it yet.
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Think both have NFC. The only difference would be the display, 9020 has the SAMOLED screen and the 9023 has the SLCD screen ,hence 9023 is cheaper.
I'll leave this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980741
It's given NFC a very good use for myself as well as quite a few others so far - worth a look if you want to try to use NFC (with a minimal initial investment to get some blank tags).
@krohnjw Ah, I already stumbled upon your NFC apps in the Android app store. Can't wait to receive my i9023 and check out your apps.
I actually ordered the i9023 in order to get down on NFC development with Android. What are your experiences with that device so far? Could you make it work to enable the whole NFC protocol/mode stack? I'd be glad if we could share some experiences ...
cheeers
pbyte said:
I actually ordered the i9023 in order to get down on NFC development with Android. What are your experiences with that device so far? Could you make it work to enable the whole NFC protocol/mode stack? I'd be glad if we could share some experiences ...
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From the Development side there's a fair bit of functionality already within the API itself. As far as accessing card emulation and the SE, that code is present, but not public. Access to the SE is likely to be tightly controlled. We'll see what road card emulation goes down ultimately. Given Google's last talk regarding NFC and card emulation it seemed that for the userspace apps they were pushing Ndef Push in place of card emulation. The emulation code is present in the source though (just not public or part of the API).
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From the Development side there's a fair bit of functionality already within the API itself. ... The emulation code is present in the source though (just not public or part of the API).
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I've read that too. Did you make a custom build from the sources in order to make use of all NFC-functionality that is implemented + available (or is such a build publicly available)?
krohnjw said:
Access to the SE is likely to be tightly controlled. We'll see what road card emulation goes down ultimately. Given Google's last talk regarding NFC and card emulation it seemed that for the userspace apps they were pushing Ndef Push in place of card emulation.
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Yeah ... from what I've read so far the concept of a SE makes perfect sense for applications that require ultimate security or are built upon existing Smartcard infrastructures, but given that space is very limited and it is still not clear (at least here in Europe/Germany) which authority will be responsible for assigning/issueing those (MNOs or 3rd parties), I think that I'll rather focus on more lightweight workarounds were possible.
The Google talk you've mentioned ... I guess you mean the ones from I/O 11? (Haven't watched them yet)
Today my i9023 arrived ... what shall I say ... a great device. NFC onboard. Display colors/contrast are superb. Now let's rock!

[XOOM 2] Xoom 2 Media Edition

Hi,
So i have a xoom 2 media edition (uk version) .. cant seem to find much out about rooting/unlocking the bootloader.
does anyone know the status on this ?
sorry to post here, but doesnt seem to be a xoom 2 section yet
me too
got myself one too.
MODs, please create XOOM2/ME forum, especially because Xoom2 and Xoom2ME is based on different chipset (non-tegra, and none of the Xoom1 tricks works on it)
For now, the tablet's bootloader is non-unlockable, all root exploits i have found fail.
I suspect after (if at all) the bootloader is unlocked, some of the Galaxy Nexus tricks will work.
On topic, this tablet urgently needs root because motorola in its [motocast promotion] ingenuity locked firewall ports 80,8080,21 etc. on the tablet... so no FileXpert web/ftp sharing, no samba, no way to access files directly.
got one too
Yeah got one today as well and interest a custom ROM as well also quick question to ask, can you add micro sd card and if yes how? and when using Swype is anybody experience very bad lag?
No sd card slot on xoom 2 - although the cover is there
Cheers zonyx I thought that but on the instructions inside the box it tells.you to take out the placholders and put a sd card in but 16GB should be fine
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yeah, i read the same - even the sim card slot is there also.
its a bit of a downer though that motorola couldnt even be bothered to just completely seal the case
Agree with zeer, could a mod create a sub section for xoom 2 and xoom 2 me?
Maybe one is enough as they both seems to have same hardware.
Who do with need to contact to get a new sub catagory
I believe the ME and Xoom 2 are the same hardware just different screen sizes
If anyone needs any system info etc... I can put my ME up for testing
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I agree. IMHO Xoom 2 ME is the best android tablet available that money can buy (i.e. not including Transformer Prime) but pre-installed software sucks. I have no idea how motorola have managed to decrease the performance by so much but root and CM9 would make this pieace of hardware what it should have been by delivery
xoom2 forum plz ... The tablet is very good .great size (the reason i bought it ) great screen , very good built quality , speakers and camera . Needs update to ics and root access .. The price in europe is good if you compare it with other tegra 2 devices but in few months ti omap processor will be outdated ...
I took my xoom 2 me back, it suffered from awful lag on the browser and WiFi kept disconnecting, maybe a bad build but didn't want to risk it with another maybe ics will solve these but got the HTC flyer for half the price and its a lot better and more responsive with GB on as well
But on a positive I agree the sound quality is very good
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xoom2
Hello i just bought my xoom2 from uk
Hello,
I`m new to the Forum, but a reader since a little while.
I have bought a Xoom 2 Media Edition too from UK, and can only say I like it pretty much sofar.
Hope that ICS 4.0 will come soon.
Is there any knowledge at all if a root hack might be possible and when ?
Many thanks for any kind of input or links at all.
Have been googling around for hours but didn't find anything usable...
EDIT: The Fact of the lacking Storage is really annoying (no USB or SD) but that Motorola blocked the Ports mentioned really sucks. I will contact the Motorola Support for this, after failing to make a ftp connection work for hours ....
Cheers & Greetings
Mark
Hi,
I have some blinking texts (and also small blinking squares) sometimes in the market for example.
Entering text in the browser (like what I'm currently doing on xda) is very laggy (with default keyboard and default browser) every striked key takes a little time to display.
Also, the green pointer used to move the cursor and the cursor himself are not well aligned.
Do you also have these issues?
moderators can you create a xoom2 forum please we need it .....
I do notice a little lag from keyboard... I dont use mouse on mine at the moment.
Swiftkey is bit better...
ive put a post on the suggestion thread about a xoom 2 sub forum.
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Vote for new devices thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
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Hi,
I've made a video of freezes I have in fruit ninja (it's only an example, I have the same thing in other games, and many other problems previously described here).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xi8_oKDp3Q (look for example at 0:12, 0:18, 0:29, 0:43, 0:46, ...)
before making this video I have hard reseted my tablet and the only app installed after the reset was fruit ninja.
do you have the same behaviour or mine is defective?
Hello, my friends.
I bought xoom 2 ME also.
1. USB host does not work.
2. no sd card
3. I have light spots on border on dark background
4. 16 hours in standby mode (wifi- off, all applications were closed)
Have you any suggestions?
1. I haven't tried yet, I'll test as soon as I receive my cable
2. like every xoom2 ME
3. I also see these light spots on black screens, it seems like it's normal.
4. You surely have a running app eating your cpu/battery, look in battery usage if you see something, I do not have this problem.

[Q] Do we need / want a seperate board zone for the Nvidia Shield Tablet ?

I personally do !
Yup.
Ditto.:good:
While they share the same features the Tablet has substantially different hardware and therefore should defiantly get its own board.
Hardware is vastly different. We very much need our own board.
Yeppers
Yes I do
There must be another way to get devices added. The Galaxy alpha got a board added without all the requests the Shield tablet got.
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YES, it's a must.
Yup
Tapatalk
Yes, it's own board (or at least have a Shield board with separate categories for each Shield device).
I haven't been on XDA for a bit. I just purchased the shield tablet and decided to see what the people here had to say about it and how happy they were with their tablets. I was very surprised to find that there was not a specific section for the shield tablet. Not only did it not have its own section, it doesn't even have its own subsection in the game consoles and handhelds section. Seriously? Everyone and their brother that has even heard of this device knows that it is first and foremost a tablet. it does everything a tablet is supposed to do. so why doesn't it have its own section like the lg g pad or the galaxy tab s? most if not all of the other tabs could add a controller and call it a gaming device. I think its silly not to have a dedicated section for this device and I hope it gets taken care of soon.
Can we ask a mod/admin to open a separate forum.
Once they realize how successful this tablet is even with all the problems like WiFi and cracked edges they will open a separate forum
I am waiting patiently for the 32gb version to be released hopefully all the issues will be resolved or revised if not at least the low storage won't be the reason to not keeping it
This is and will be the most powerful tablet of 2015 why because everyone is jumping to the Super high resolution wagon not realizing it's not necessary and that makes no sense other than competing with other companies I am glad Nvidia pick this resolution and aspect ratio because the shield is easy to use and media looks perfect on it
At the same time I am bummed out they didn't developed an attachment controller to make this the perfect gaming device wii u game pad and vita killer but at least other companies are working on that and ipega already have one out hopefully is good to make the shield a perfect experience
this is the ipega http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe35iqKY5to
and website where I order from http://www.dx.com/p/ipega-9023-blue...pod-ipad-samsung-htc-more-337604#.U_HzK2NCiSo
+1
+1
I'm truly astonished that XDA has not added a forum for us
Even the Tegra Note 7 has it's own forum...
+1!
shoulda named it the tegra note 8 huh
Looks like one was created
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet
interesting. can't see it on the mobile app.

Oculus Quest 2 - U-NII-3 in Europe

Hey all,
Preamble: I have a European bought Oculus Quest 2, and during my trip the US I bought the D-Link VR Air Bridge. To my dismay when I returned home I found out it only worked occasionally, due to it using U-NII-3 WiFi 6 frequencies which haven't been approved in Europe yet. However, the Quest 2 should still be able to pick them up - but is probably firmware/software limited.
My idea of a solution is asking a US friend with a Quest 2 for a rip of their relevant software/firmware, and enable these frequencies on my device.
My question is - what exactly do I need to rip out of their device (firmware, modems file, etc.) and how, and how can I flash it to mine? AFAIK the Quest 2 is just an Android device.
Thanks in advance!
Sadly, you can’t. In order to due any sort of firmware build changes or upgrade/downgrades/custom os/etc you have to have the bootloader unlocked.
Everything on the oculus platform (especially the standalone vr) is governed by a sort of “guardian/permission/spy type program. It has to approve any and all device function and requests and it totally locked off without having the bootloader unlocked.
Unfortunately a wild bootloader unlock is Mia. I’m sure someone managed it. But no one spoke up aside from a hoax.
Facebook did release firmware for the oculus go though once it came to the end of its production and sales cycle. This firmware was explicitly programmed with the bootloader auto unlocked. You can install whatever you want within limits if the arm chip on board.
I’m sure if you knew a little about hardware and software dev on the mobile sector, you maybe able to find a work around using the huewei models. Essentially HUAWEI deidtributes for Facebook overseas in some Asians markets to bysoass bans imolimented on Facebook by the countries. They are the exact same device. Same hardware. Different firmware. And most huwawei models have indeed been bootloader unlocked with reports of it being done asap before by tech support while on phone. So yea. It’s a rabbit hole. Good luck
As a workaround, try occur using something like virtual desktop. Super low latency. Make dang sure you are wired the entire way.
The. You can emulate whatever distro you want and view it in vr mode. I have done this with some steam games. Sometimes it works awesome. Some times it sucks utterly. But more often than not it surprises me with performance assuming you have a realivaly decent vr gaming setup (no a rx 589 or gtx 1650 or 1660 doesn’t cut it). I’m talking a ryzen 7 (preferably 9) paired with a rx5700 or higher for amd or ideally a 2060 super or higher for nvidia. Even at these specs, expect barely 50 fps

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