Theming made easy? - Droid X Themes and Apps

I have recently started looking into theming and I was wondering if there was a repo somewhere with icons etc. that generally match. atm the moment I'm kinda of pulling from these theme and the other, there a better way to do this? Eventually I'll probably start making some of my own by in the meantime while I'm still dabbling I was hoping I could find these. Right now I've got about 5k images from the various frameworks of themes that I enjoy...Tell me there's an easier way.

jvegastn said:
I have recently started looking into theming and I was wondering if there was a repo somewhere with icons etc. that generally match. atm the moment I'm kinda of pulling from these theme and the other, there a better way to do this? Eventually I'll probably start making some of my own by in the meantime while I'm still dabbling I was hoping I could find these. Right now I've got about 5k images from the various frameworks of themes that I enjoy...Tell me there's an easier way.
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There are a few people who have posted guides such as the following:
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en&pli=1
This is a pretty comprehensive guide from people like Manup and Stericson.
Or check here:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...ns-manuals/3209-how-theme-your-own-droid.html
I think most of it is the same, but may fill in some extra gaps, and is a forum, so you may find some additional questions answered.
I just started theming as well. I originally was just replacing images as well. But the guys doing the big work actuall create their own images (sometimes image creation, as well as coloring). In addition they usually theme the apps (not just the images) but also go in and edit the xml files to create color coded themes throughout the framework and apps. It's quite a bit of work...
Anyways...check out the links and good luck!

http://droidpirate.com/2010/08/25/metamorph-round-battery-icon-in-various-colors/
http://icons.mysitemyway.com/matte-blue-and-white-square-icons-media/
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/246462-theme-help-tutorial.html#post2063232

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new themer needs some help

First things first. I want to take the current ROM I'm running, which incidentally is damagecontrol 2.07, and build a custom theme that is much darker than the stock HTC Sense, with some transparent elements, and changing every single bit of that day-glo green color into a nice cool blue, while keeping LWP fuctioning. I figured I would be using Metamorph for this, unless there's some sort of incompatibility issue that I have no clue about. Fairly simple, so I thought.
I'm new to android, but I have done themes and skins for things like winamp in the past. Lets be clear up front, I am in no way a slick coder, I haven't the slightest idea how to code Java, or Android, or the Linux it is based on. I'm a graphic designer through and through, and that's about as far as my knowledge goes.
Currently, I need help with setting up Eclipse to compile .9.png images for my theme. I've tried to research and get info on the .9.png images, and I understand how they work, I just haven't been able to find anything to tell me which version of Eclipse to download, (there's several on the site) and how to set it up with Android 2.1, (and a fairly new leak from Sprint) which is what the ROM is based on.
I can't help but think that what I'm asking help for has been asked before, but I don't know if I'm just searching or looking for the wrong thing, and I'm having a tough time finding answers to a very quickly growing list of very specific questions. If there's any thread's you guys know of to help me out, or specific resources to check out, let me know, so I can stop cluttering the forums.
In 5 days I'll have my newest thearmo theme up. Every bit of green is being replaced by cool blue. If you want, you can use my blue framework files to build your theme around. I've spent hours making everything that was green into blue. It's insanely tedious, especially the 9.pngs. I'm working on those right now. The offer stands...if you want to save yourself some time, you can build your theme with the files from my framework, etc....
hope that helps.
-alex
I hate to be a wanna-be mod, but this is posted in the wrong section. This is only for ROM development, not theming.
good luck with the theme tho, sounds awesome.
alexthearmo said:
I've spent hours making everything that was green into blue. It's insanely tedious, especially the 9.pngs.
-alex
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I agree with you whole heartedly (but you also know how rewarding it is when you see the finished product )
beyondinferno said:
I hate to be a wanna-be mod, but this is posted in the wrong section. This is only for ROM development, not theming.
good luck with the theme tho, sounds awesome.
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...and I agree with you as well
Konikub said:
I agree with you whole heartedly (but you also know how rewarding it is when you see the finished product )
...and I agree with you as well
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And I agree with you agreeing with them.
yes it is in the wrong area but still why not help answer the guys question. if you are looking to theme I wrote up a pretty comprehensive guide on how to do it you can find it in the wiki pages or just click here.
nuformzdesign said:
First things first. I want to take the current ROM I'm running, which incidentally is damagecontrol 2.07, and build a custom theme that is much darker than the stock HTC Sense, with some transparent elements, and changing every single bit of that day-glo green color into a nice cool blue, while keeping LWP fuctioning. I figured I would be using Metamorph for this, unless there's some sort of incompatibility issue that I have no clue about. Fairly simple, so I thought.
I'm new to android, but I have done themes and skins for things like winamp in the past. Lets be clear up front, I am in no way a slick coder, I haven't the slightest idea how to code Java, or Android, or the Linux it is based on. I'm a graphic designer through and through, and that's about as far as my knowledge goes.
Currently, I need help with setting up Eclipse to compile .9.png images for my theme. I've tried to research and get info on the .9.png images, and I understand how they work, I just haven't been able to find anything to tell me which version of Eclipse to download, (there's several on the site) and how to set it up with Android 2.1, (and a fairly new leak from Sprint) which is what the ROM is based on.
I can't help but think that what I'm asking help for has been asked before, but I don't know if I'm just searching or looking for the wrong thing, and I'm having a tough time finding answers to a very quickly growing list of very specific questions. If there's any thread's you guys know of to help me out, or specific resources to check out, let me know, so I can stop cluttering the forums.
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If you pm me your google talk, I can help you set it up in 5 minutes later and show you how to compile the .9s and all that
nuformzdesign said:
First things first. I want to take the current ROM I'm running, which incidentally is damagecontrol 2.07, and build a custom theme that is much darker than the stock HTC Sense, with some transparent elements, and changing every single bit of that day-glo green color into a nice cool blue, while keeping LWP fuctioning. I figured I would be using Metamorph for this, unless there's some sort of incompatibility issue that I have no clue about. Fairly simple, so I thought.
I'm new to android, but I have done themes and skins for things like winamp in the past. Lets be clear up front, I am in no way a slick coder, I haven't the slightest idea how to code Java, or Android, or the Linux it is based on. I'm a graphic designer through and through, and that's about as far as my knowledge goes.
Currently, I need help with setting up Eclipse to compile .9.png images for my theme. I've tried to research and get info on the .9.png images, and I understand how they work, I just haven't been able to find anything to tell me which version of Eclipse to download, (there's several on the site) and how to set it up with Android 2.1, (and a fairly new leak from Sprint) which is what the ROM is based on.
I can't help but think that what I'm asking help for has been asked before, but I don't know if I'm just searching or looking for the wrong thing, and I'm having a tough time finding answers to a very quickly growing list of very specific questions. If there's any thread's you guys know of to help me out, or specific resources to check out, let me know, so I can stop cluttering the forums.
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This is EVERYTHING you could POSSIBLY need.
Android Ultimate Theming Guide
LINK: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en​

metamorph themes for incredible

does anyone know where, on here, can i get some mods for my notification bar? like wifi and 3g and signal bars? i need to be able to use metamorph to apply them cause i am not too good at this stuff. i have done the search but have only came up with batts. any help would be appreciated.
What rom?
sent from dinc
Clockwork recovery
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Clockwork recovery
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That's not a ROM, but since you dont know that, I'm going to assume that you have the stock rom. Just look in this forum, theyre all over the place.
Lol yeah im not sure what I got! That's part of why I'm looking for easy ways to do mods.
Don't worry: we all had to start somewhere.
With that said, if you don't yet know the difference between recovery and a rom, I'd shy away from jumping into MetaMorph themes for your notification bar for now.
First, I'd recommend you do a bit of reading on the terminology: roms, recovery, kernels, etc. Then familiarize yourself with how to make a nandroid backup and how to restore it: this is going to be critical once you decide to move forward with theming. Finally, people may disagree with me on this last point, but I'd recommend you educate yourself on how MetaMorph is working and how apks store their icons.
If you are semi-proficient with computers, none of the above should be too hard. In fact, you'll probably be surprised at how easy it ends up being. With a little bit of reading, and trial-and-error, you'll be able to find almost any theme you like, pull only the png files you want, then make your own MetaMorph theme.
You can open any apk file (like a copy of your system's framework) using a zip program (like 7zip) and see what png icons it contains. MetaMorph does nothing more than replace these png files with new files that you give it. A MetaMorph theme will have an XML control file that instructs it where to place the png files, which will also be dictated by the folder structure.
Jumping straight into MM themes without an understanding of these concepts is a bit of a risky move. Since signal/wifi/etc icons are part of the framework-res.apk, it's quite easy to throw yourself into a bootloop.
Again, I know some people will disagree with this advice: it's just my personal opinion. I know you are eager to tweak your device, but without a decent understanding of what you are doing, you could find yourself trying to fix a problem that takes a lot more time than my suggested path of first learning.
I agree! Read read read, then flash
sent from dinc
I just don't have alot of time with a 18 month old runing around. So I was just looking for something easy.
Droidpirate.com
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mills23 said:
I just don't have alot of time with a 18 month old runing around. So I was just looking for something easy.
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Understood; some of us definitely have more time than others when it comes to tinkering.
I'll make you a deal: if you find a theme that you like (doesn't have to be MetaMorph... could just be a rom that visually appeals to you), point me to the link. If I'm able to, I will make a MetaMorph theme file for you to try. For simplicity's sake, find something that would use the same number of icons as your current setup. In other words, if you are currently running a rom that uses a 4-bar signal icon (which is most likely the case), let's avoid the 6-bar signal icons. If the theme you want is solely visual in nature (i.e. no functional changes, like the 4 -> 6 bar change), then I should be able to make the MM pack and give you instructions on its use.
Ok great thank you! I will get them together and pm them to you.

need themer to help mod battery icons

need help have found multiple battery icons that i think would be an awesome addition to the awesome criskelo and king droid roms that i use as i am only familiar with the basics like rooting and flashing roms if any themer is willing to help i am uploading all the images i have found so far and will upload any additional ones that i find
more battery icons
uploading more battery icons if someone is willing to help make theme for me or at the very least explain how to mod current criskelo or king droid themes to include them
I like the fact that you thing this is easy, theming is really very complicated and hard to get done, its not just about replacing icons, yo need thousands of hours working on photosop, learn how to deconplie and compile apk's properly, working with hundreds of tiny little images till the puzzle is all done, and certainly not something that can be taught in afew post, so go google and learn by yourself, there is enought info out there
trinev said:
I like the fact that you thing this is easy, theming is really very complicated and hard to get done, its not just about replacing icons, yo need thousands of hours working on photosop, learn how to deconplie and compile apk's properly, working with hundreds of tiny little images till the puzzle is all done, and certainly not something that can be taught in afew post, so go google and learn by yourself, there is enought info out there
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i never said nor did i imply that theming was easy i was just asking if someone could include these battery icons in a theme that is being made or has already been made for the roms that i use as it is out of my league at the present time if it was as simple as replacing icons i would have used an app for that i recognise the hard work that developers on here do and while i do apreciate it i dont think its wrong to ask for help or suggest someone use the icons that i have posted in their next theme

[Q] Looking for an *updated* guide/template for CM10.1 theming

There are a few guides on here but they are all out of date, referencing tools that are outdated and don't work, or just plain broken links. I'm also looking for a template theme that's based on the stock CM10.1 theme. I tried using SystemUI from a rom build but that didn't work too well...
Bump. Sorry. Plenty of people here making themes. Someone must know.
There are many tutorials in the android theme section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527
A long time ago, I wanted to learn how to make theme chooser themes, but along the way I learned from various places how to decompile existing themes and take looks on the inside on how they are made. Then I made my own tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730445 . No self promotion intended, I took what I learned, and made more use of VTS instead of using command line tools directly for general understanding, and it pointed me in the right direction.
Hope that helps

LG Home+ Themes for LG G7 ThinQ

Hello everyone & welcome to my new thread dedicated to build custom themes for the LG G7 ThinQ only!
Reasons & Goals: After owning Samsung flagships for years, I got very well accustom to their great theme store that gives the user the opportunity to make their device feel and look different, but after moving to the G7 ThinQ I felt that the official LG theme store sucks a$$ when it comes to options offerings, so I decided to create my own themes.
Note: I will be adding new themes to this thread commonly. Released themes are subject to updates aimed to either fix or add features, they will be posted with revisions # & dates.
How To Apply: Download & install the apk file and go to Wallpapers & Themes settings, You'll see it there.
#1 - Sour Oranges
Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fNDC7io-3pALpSoKjAJPOlRQaI6ypVxD/view?usp=sharing
Rev 1:
(7/11/2018) - Initial release
Rev 2:
(7/12/2018) - Update Stock Apps Accent colors & Icons
Sour Stock
#2 - Sour Stock
Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Be5l8YgS39u6aeGUawaFxc4M7O9sLuBc
Rev 1:
(7/12/2018) - Initial release
Rev 2:
(7/12/2018) - fix wrong upload
#3 Sweet Pixel
Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ahaO-vaJJ-j-dNmYQv0owOGzivaONKIW/view?usp=sharing
Rev 1 :
(7/13/2018) - Initial Release
#3 - Black Widow
Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_fm1z0xJ6mG1TYcwFB20hmtQQG_EHm_y/view?usp=sharing
Rev 1:
(7/14/2018) - Initial Release
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Awesome man... Just got the phone & it's kinda sucky having such a new device without much development yet... Just installed your first two, haven't tried them out yet, wanted to say thanks first!
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Great job on the orange... But when i try the stock theme it's orange too?? Even tried reverting back to the lg stock theme and then re applying the sour stock, but it's still basically the orange... Orange framework and orange icons.
david11111313 said:
Awesome man... Just got the phone & it's kinda sucky having such a new device without much development yet... Just installed your first two, haven't tried them out yet, wanted to say thanks first!
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Great job on the orange... But when i try the stock theme it's orange too?? Even tried reverting back to the lg stock theme and then re applying the sour stock, but it's still basically the orange... Orange framework and orange icons.
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I apologize I uploaded the wrong file, here is the actual one and please uninstall your version of Sour Oranges and download the new one I uploaded since it has a bug fix:
Sour Stock : https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Be5l8YgS39u6aeGUawaFxc4M7O9sLuBc
Sour Oranges: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1R7L6Vb6aEgx_h4zQcWrHZWdslyBaZN8i
NOTE: uninstall the old one before installing this one. Thanks for your feedback!
Awesome!! [emoji16] Thank you very much! [emoji106]
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Very interesting that a guy with absolutely zero theme threads in the past within a span of a couple days just happens to have 4 full themes made. Also very interesting that some things in said themes have elements that were only needed on G6 themes and aren't even needed on the G7 nor present on the stock system. I'm curious why you'd have those things there if they're not even needed and part of the G6 themes and specifically something that perhaps was found in specific G6 themes? I wonder what will happen if some of these things are compared to a few specific themes and we see if said elements/images are pixel for pixel identical? Wouldn't that be just a huge coincidence? Let me ask you something here. If you actually made your own specific image that was unique and you saw it somewhere else other than where you put it, do you think you'd recognize your own work or no?
Also very interesting that in some files within your theme , contain names of specific themes and other theme designers' designer name in them? I wonder why anyone would have a file named after another person's theme in their own theme? That seems rather odd doesn't it. Also odd that some things that took some of us a year to figure out, you've miraculously figured out with zero help in a matter of days! That's just amazing bud.
So I guess I'll keep looking and see what else I happen to find. At this point there are a lot of red flags happening and this isn't going to end well. There is a right way of doing things and then there's "the easy way". The easy way is never right, and the right way is never easy. You now have to make a choice. Either fix everything and do things the right way or stand your ground and try to deny it all and wait to have this thread shut down. I'll give you a day or two to decide and in the meantime I'll compile a list of suspicious elements to present to the moderation team should you choose door number 2.
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Very interesting that a guy with absolutely zero theme threads in the past within a span of a couple days just happens to have 4 full themes made. Also very interesting that some things in said themes have elements that were only needed on G6 themes and aren't even needed on the G7 nor present on the stock system. I'm curious why you'd have those things there if they're not even needed and part of the G6 themes and specifically something that perhaps was found in specific G6 themes? I wonder what will happen if some of these things are compared to a few specific themes and we see if said elements/images are pixel for pixel identical? Wouldn't that be just a huge coincidence? Let me ask you something here. If you actually made your own specific image that was unique and you saw it somewhere else other than where you put it, do you think you'd recognize your own work or no?
Also very interesting that in some files within your theme , contain names of specific themes and other theme designers' designer name in them? I wonder why anyone would have a file named after another person's theme in their own theme? That seems rather odd doesn't it. Also odd that some things that took some of us a year to figure out, you've miraculously figured out with zero help in a matter of days! That's just amazing bud.
So I guess I'll keep looking and see what else I happen to find. At this point there are a lot of red flags happening and this isn't going to end well. There is a right way of doing things and then there's "the easy way". The easy way is never right, and the right way is never easy. You now have to make a choice. Either fix everything and do things the right way or stand your ground and try to deny it all and wait to have this thread shut down. I'll give you a day or two to decide and in the meantime I'll compile a list of suspicious elements to present to the moderation team should you choose door number 2.
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Hello, after reading your accusations of my 4 Theme+ and asserting that I stole yours and others developer's themes, that I also I have not previous experience therefore it is odd to you this is my response.
1. Although certain files are not needed on the G7 due to a change/update on how the theme engine works, I have them there for the following reasons:
A. I also make themes for my V30 and my G6
B. Under System > Priv-App there is a pre-installed theme on the G7 called "White". That theme is a pure premium theme that under "commom" you get to see and change almost every single aspect of the phone's UI, and I used that Theme as a template because it has everything you need to make your own themes.
C. You say that certain theme colors are identical to other Devs, and that is either a bad coincidence or you got our files mixed up while decompiling others people's themes for I don't know what reasons.
2. And yes I would recognize my own work if I saw somewhere else, but how different can a Stock Android or Pixel XL based theme be, they follow a certain hue of blue and either White status bar icons color or blue, or White with a blue background. My Sour Orange theme was made by following the stock "White" Theme as a template.
3. You said that it took you years and that "of course" I don't know anything about LG's theme and its Framework because I don't post anything before, why would I? I made this themes because I have been doing it since it was introduced in the G5 & V20 I believe, I just don't usually share my stuff. Not all of us share our custom roms we make by using AOSP or Lineage OS as templates.
4. Also I see that you make themes too, and you know that it takes a lot to just make one. I made them weeks ago, I post them all at once because they work and have not UI issue or glitches. And again, things didn't take years to figure it out baceuse you have to do to learn it real good is root your LG device, Download Themes from their Store, Pull the APK's and use them as template. And if I was new at this, I would've follow this easy tutorial: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75130522&postcount=10
5. I make Themes for nothing in return because I build them for myself so why not. You make and sell yours I believe, I hope that is not the reason why you are decompiling my themes and accusing me of stealing your work, because although they still are overlays, yours are Subtractum based I believe and mine are just straight forward, and recognize you from previous LG Device "Theme Forums".
https://icons8.com/material-icons/
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Tetraguy said:
Hello, after reading your accusations of my 4 Theme+ and asserting that I stole yours and others developer's themes, that I also I have not previous experience therefore it is odd to you this is my response.
1. Although certain files are not needed on the G7 due to a change/update on how the theme engine works, I have them there for the following reasons:
A. I also make themes for my V30 and my G6
B. Under System > Priv-App there is a pre-installed theme on the G7 called "White". That theme is a pure premium theme that under "commom" you get to see and change almost every single aspect of the phone's UI, and I used that Theme as a template because it has everything you need to make your own themes.
C. You say that certain theme colors are identical to other Devs, and that is either a bad coincidence or you got our files mixed up while decompiling others people's themes for I don't know what reasons.
2. And yes I would recognize my own work if I saw somewhere else, but how different can a Stock Android or Pixel XL based theme be, they follow a certain hue of blue and either White status bar icons color or blue, or White with a blue background. My Sour Orange theme was made by following the stock "White" Theme as a template.
3. You said that it took you years and that "of course" I don't know anything about LG's theme and its Framework because I don't post anything before, why would I? I made this themes because I have been doing it since it was introduced in the G5 & V20 I believe, I just don't usually share my stuff. Not all of us share our custom roms we make by using AOSP or Lineage OS as templates.
4. Also I see that you make themes too, and you know that it takes a lot to just make one. I made them weeks ago, I post them all at once because they work and have not UI issue or glitches. And again, things didn't take years to figure it out baceuse you have to do to learn it real good is root your LG device, Download Themes from their Store, Pull the APK's and use them as template. And if I was new at this, I would've follow this easy tutorial: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75130522&postcount=10
5. I make Themes for nothing in return because I build them for myself so why not. You make and sell yours I believe, I hope that is not the reason why you are decompiling my themes and accusing me of stealing your work, because although they still are overlays, yours are Subtractum based I believe and mine are just straight forward, and recognize you from previous LG Device "Theme Forums".
https://icons8.com/material-icons/
https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline
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Ok so you've made your decision and are denying using other people's work without consent. There are infact specific files hidden within the stuff you posted that physically have not only another themes name written on it, but the name of the person who made it.
But nice try dodging this. Listen bud I get it. You got excited and wanted to share some stuff. But you went about it all wrong. You took the easy way out and thought no one would notice.
Here's just one little screenshot of another guys name in a classes.dex file from your theme. I can show a bunch of other stuff if you want? I'm pretty sure you're name isn't WSDeveloper aka WSteams aka bin than who is another guy who makes themes.
Want me to show some pixel for pixel pngs too where you have identical to the pixel images as other people? Or some xmls that are line for line identical? Maybe I should post the JSON file that has another themes name in it that you overlooked and forgot to delete? The reason you didn't see all of this and I did is because you didn't build from source. You decompiled other people's stuff and did it that way.
At the end of the day you took other people's work and slapped your name on it and called it your own.
You need to stop, own up and do things right without using other people's stuff. I've given you the chance to make things right and have a bit of dignity and respect but it seems you want to do what everyone else does when they get caught and try to twist things and deny it when the proof is right there.
So again you have one last chance to make things right. You can easily rebound from this and use it as a learning experience. Hell I'll even help you out because albeit I'm focusing on substratum now, I have about 30 or 40 lg themes. Btw my substratum themes are encrypted so people can't decompile my stuff lol! I assure you , that you're not the first person who's tried to do this with LG themes in general. So the ball is in your court.
I think we both know that I'm right and that I'm not bluffing or making things up here. I cannot however stand back and watch this type of behaviour continue without saying something.
So take some time and cool off if need be and decide how you wish to proceed because the next step will be to present everything in question to the mods.
So ask yourself if you want to learn some things and do it right or do it the easy way and cheat? Again I can help you but first you need to make amends.
I wish you good day now.
I thank you both for your work to give the general phone using population a place to go to truly customize their phones. But im gonna be honest, I tried Marks way of installing his alpha theme and then i tried Tetra's way and its a whole lot easier and way more convenient. I'm really tempted to not touch this argument between two contributors that clearly dont make a lot of money giving me the consumer what I want. At the end of the day seems mark is mad that tetra may have stolen work , but more so its seems Mark is more frustrated that Tetra's theme solution is straightforward, doesn't involve two pay walls and is a 10 second solution compared to Mark's which takes forever. Mark really not trying to cut you down, but an apk install and then jump to theme page is a lot better. Whether Tetra stole work or not his way forward is the one that all developers should look to.
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