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I don't have that many apps, games stored on my phone and would rather the extra space be allocated to media.
Would it be possible to cut 1gb off the phones 2gb storage etc?
of course this is possible with a custom rom that repartitions the device when flashing.
I'm no phone man so hopefully someone can maximise the media space for those that wish.
Must be others out there with this need
Very likely. I hit a store today to look at it and bought it like my car - against better judgement and just acting from the gut.
Just gotta love the feel of that device. I am seriously miffed that HTC is advertising a 16GB internal storage phone but leaves only about 10GB for the user (well at least its written on the box, but still).
What the heck do they use those Gigs of storage for? I can see how one or even three GB are put aside for the /data partition and maybe an recovery patition, but 6GB?
All I hope is that the One S gets enough developer love, instead of all the devs going for the higher bling of the Quad flagship.
I wonder why they didn't implement the unified storage which is supperted by ICS which makes partitioning superfluous, at least for app/media space.
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When we get stock iPhone devices in our office, on a 16GB device, the available space os about 14GB, I had expected similar from HTC. But no, it is just over 9GB free on a stock device with nothing much installed.Grrr.
I know I have been complaining about the space in other forums but your compairison is off the mark.
The HTC One S has 9.8gb free for user storage, and 2gb free for apps, that's 11.8gb free.
The Iphone 4, 16gb model has 13.4gb free "out of the box".
The way Android works is different from Ios for storage. Android partions the drive for system, cache, and user. Some manufacturers choose application and user storage to be separate, depending on wether they have mtp, or usb mass storage mode. If you read up on this stuff a bit, you'll soon agree the android way is better, and unlike Ios devices once we have S-off, we can change mtd partions.
So, technically your talking 13.4gb versus 11.8, not really as big a dif as you tried to claim.
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I just hope HTC was lazy and went the way they did on the first WM7 phones - an microSD card slot that contained a exchangeable Sandisk microSD, but was just hidden under a few screws.
I guess I would happily void my warranty for that. I am heavily anticipating the first "teardowns" or service / disassembly manuals for this device.
Can someone post testing the speed of the internal storage, I would appreciate the test results made with SD Tools app. ?
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Here it is !
psych0t1c said:
I just hope HTC was lazy and went the way they did on the first WM7 phones - an microSD card slot that contained a exchangeable Sandisk microSD, but was just hidden under a few screws.
I guess I would happily void my warranty for that. I am heavily anticipating the first "teardowns" or service / disassembly manuals for this device.
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I've read that the storage in this phone is all NAND, not a hidden micro SD.
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psych0t1c said:
I just hope HTC was lazy and went the way they did on the first WM7 phones - an microSD card slot that contained a exchangeable Sandisk microSD, but was just hidden under a few screws.
I guess I would happily void my warranty for that. I am heavily anticipating the first "teardowns" or service / disassembly manuals for this device.
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Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen. They did this with WP7 because Microsoft made them - they didn't want user-swappable SD cards in WP7 devices. In the One series, the memory is most probably normal NAND chips on the board deep inside the phone, to save space.
Thanks, for compare I post my tests with newest microSD adata 32GB UHS-1 tested on HTC Desire-S which I made when bought that card and installed ROM, after some use of phone the speed is decreasing.
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This was the max speed which I get out of that card 21.6MB/s write and 25.8MB/s read.
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10gb storage
1,5gb system
2gb data
1gb others (cache boot recovery radio vs)
Android apps and caches getting enlarged everyday and even all my apps moved to empty system/app folder and only 5 apps installed to data/app I have only 200mb free because dalvik cache, data/data folders are 1,5gb total.
I need repartition my htc one s like that:
1gb system
4gb data
1gb others untouched
8gb storage.
it is very easy on mtk devices. there must be a way via fastboot commands on qualcom devices.
here is a way for zte z7 mini via fastboot commands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57928909&postcount=3
After finally being able to unlock my bootloader (for those still having trouble: I mailed asus directly about it and after the basic tips of factory reset and stuff they elevated my call and suddenly I was able to unlock.. not sure if my mails helped but was quite funny it happened the day they elevated it), I started investigating more on the capabilities of this sweet device. Now basically I wanted to do more with PDF's and well here the IO troubles are a pain So yeh.. is there a firmware team working on it? or is this something we'd have to wait for on asus?
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Completely on Asus's side. There is nothing we can do as users without either a better unlock or using flakey hackish workarounds to reduce (tho not eliminate) the problem.
Basically, consider this: You have a car with a corvette engine in it with the transmission of, say, a Ford Model T. You just can't get the power to where its needed.
The Tegra3 chipset is kind of like that. Boatloads of horsepower but it struggles to get that power to the wheels and you get lots of ANR's. Asus needs to find a way in the kernel which is locked tighter than Fort Knox to streamline the process while keeping stability up.
If you want the best experience for pdfs then download perfect viewer and the pdf plug in from Google play and all your io issues will be gone.
Seriously try it. No other pdf viewer can compete.
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After finally being able to unlock my bootloader (for those still having trouble: I mailed asus directly about it and after the basic tips of factory reset and stuff they elevated my call and suddenly I was able to unlock.. not sure if my mails helped but was quite funny it happened the day they elevated it), I started investigating more on the capabilities of this sweet device. Now basically I wanted to do more with PDF's and well here the IO troubles are a pain So yeh.. is there a firmware team working on it? or is this something we'd have to wait for on asus?
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Since you're unlocked I suggest you try the Zeus rom v4, just out. Very fast, makes a big difference.
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Completely on Asus's side. There is nothing we can do as users without either a better unlock or using flakey hackish workarounds to reduce (tho not eliminate) the problem.
Basically, consider this: You have a car with a corvette engine in it with the transmission of, say, a Ford Model T. You just can't get the power to where its needed.
The Tegra3 chipset is kind of like that. Boatloads of horsepower but it struggles to get that power to the wheels and you get lots of ANR's. Asus needs to find a way in the kernel which is locked tighter than Fort Knox to streamline the process while keeping stability up.
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Odd, because my Tegra 3 HTC One X is significantly faster than both my TF201 and TF700. Either Asus had botched optimizing the kernel or they cheaped out on the internal memory, yet again.
okantomi said:
Since you're unlocked I suggest you try the Zeus rom v4, just out. Very fast, makes a big difference.
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Yeh it's on the planning I am already running a Zeus rom. Just noticed 4 has been released.. can't do it now tho, on 3g and my provider caps the speed after 1gig >.<
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Odd, because my Tegra 3 HTC One X is significantly faster than both my TF201 and TF700. Either Asus had botched optimizing the kernel or they cheaped out on the internal memory, yet again.
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Well part of it is the scheduler which far as i know (i could be wrong) is in the kernel. A custom kernel def could help tho we dont have access
Another problem could be cheap memory chips for the internal storage. Chances are they went with the lowest bidder and got crap quality. Why put class 2 chips in a device that demands class 10 or higher? WTG Asus. (speculation on this one, tho it makes sense)
Also, other teg 3 devices could run faster but what other things factor into it? Smaller resolution screen = much less pixels to update. Possibly faster / greater quantity of ram. Different kernel and rom optimizations. Different power managment settings. Different clock settings. Different voltage settings (chips can be undervolted and overclocked with varying results) LOOOOTS of factors go into "why X device might go faster even with the same processor).
Picture this: A semi truck and a smart fortwo are given the exact same engine. Which will go faster? The smartcar. And yet if this were android you would still have people say "But its the same engine! why does the semi go slower?" Same principal.
pileot said:
Well part of it is the scheduler which far as i know (i could be wrong) is in the kernel. A custom kernel def could help tho we dont have access
Another problem could be cheap memory chips for the internal storage. Chances are they went with the lowest bidder and got crap quality. Why put class 2 chips in a device that demands class 10 or higher? WTG Asus. (speculation on this one, tho it makes sense)
Also, other teg 3 devices could run faster but what other things factor into it? Smaller resolution screen = much less pixels to update. Possibly faster / greater quantity of ram. Different kernel and rom optimizations. Different power managment settings. Different clock settings. Different voltage settings (chips can be undervolted and overclocked with varying results) LOOOOTS of factors go into "why X device might go faster even with the same processor).
Picture this: A semi truck and a smart fortwo are given the exact same engine. Which will go faster? The smartcar. And yet if this were android you would still have people say "But its the same engine! why does the semi go slower?" Same principal.
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Well ok that said, (also just speculation) wouldn't "most of the IO troubles" be solved by one brave guy who posts a "how to safely break open your $700 device and replace the internal sd card" ?
My first tablet was a ****ty dropad I picked off some chinese site for $100 .. it's internal memory was in fact a ****ty 4 gig card .. I believe it was class 2 even.. so some brave guy cracked it open and wrote how to do this. So I ended up doing the same and indeed solved alot of problems.
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Well ok that said, (also just speculation) wouldn't "most of the IO troubles" be solved by one brave guy who posts a "how to safely break open your $700 device and replace the internal sd card" ?
My first tablet was a ****ty dropad I picked off some chinese site for $100 .. it's internal memory was in fact a ****ty 4 gig card .. I believe it was class 2 even.. so some brave guy cracked it open and wrote how to do this. So I ended up doing the same and indeed solved alot of problems.
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It would have been great if Asus chose to use an internal SD card!! Can you imagine the HACKABILITY?!?!?
Unfortunately no internal sd card in the infinity: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MHZKnMyJmRCfQwPn.large
oh well darn
tho not entirely sure what I am looking at I do recognise some chips on that pcb
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jordanmw said:
It would have been great if Asus chose to use an internal SD card!! Can you imagine the HACKABILITY?!?!?
Unfortunately no internal sd card in the infinity: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MHZKnMyJmRCfQwPn.large
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Based on the ifixit site these images were taken from there are memory chips there:
Hynix H26M64002BNR e-NAND and 2x Elpida memory J4216EBBG-GNL-F
Do you know which one is the culprit often mentioned as "cheap" RAM and partly the cause for the IO issues?
djmulder said:
oh well darn
tho not entirely sure what I am looking at I do recognise some chips on that pcb
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I'm not a developer but closely follow the xda forums on all my devices and have learned a few things (but may not use correct terminology, so bear with me). It seems that when we have kernel source code (and ASUS TF700 binaries), kernel devs can use the linaro tool chain and produce some really amazing kernels which, together with the rendering enhancements in Jelly Bean, will improve performance a great deal, across the board. The GPU can be overclocked.. there's a lot that can be done with the hardware we have...just need source code/ASUS TF700 binaries.
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Based on the ifixit site these images were taken from there are memory chips there:
Hynix H26M64002BNR e-NAND and 2x Elpida memory J4216EBBG-GNL-F
Do you know which one is the culprit often mentioned as "cheap" RAM and partly the cause for the IO issues?
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Hmm ok so judging by a quick lookup it's comparable to a class 10 flash? (quick google tho, so I might be WAY off )
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There's more information here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6 including some benchmarking of the Infinity, Nexus 7 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus. It does look like Asus cheaped out on the NAND in their tablets.
I'm not so sure that the problem lies in "cheap" components. I've been digging through the kernel source and the only NANDs that keep popping up are:
00491: case 0xD5: /* Hynix H27UAG8T2A, H27UBG8U5A or H27UCG8VFA */
00492: case 0xD7: /* Hynix H27UDG8VEM, H27UCG8UDM or H27UCG8V5A */
first 3 are from Hynix's Q4 2011 Databook and second 2 from the Q2 2009 Databook (couldn't find the last one) and none of them match the one seen in the teardown http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Asus-Transformer-Infinity-TF-700-Teardown/10306/1
(Sorry, formatting got ruined so I did a quick -- insert to make it readable)
Product -- Tech -- Density -- Block Size -- Stack -- Vcc/Org -- Package -- Avail. -- Remark
H27UAG8T2A-- 4ynm-- 16Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page)-- SDP --3.3v/X8-- TSOP-- EOL
H27UBG8U5A-- 4ynm-- 32Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page)-- DDP-- 3.3v/X8-- TSOP-- EOL
H27UCG8VFA-- 4ynm 64Gb-- 512KB(4KB Page)-- QDP-- 3.3v/X8-- TSOP-- EOL
H27UDG8VEM -- 41nm-- 128Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page) -- QDP -- 3.3v/X8 -- VLGA -- Mar. 09 -- 4CE,Dual CH.
H27UCG8UDM -- 41nm -- 64Gb -- 512KB(4KB Page) -- DDP --3.3v/X8 -- VLGA -- Mar. 09 -- Dual CH.
H27UCG8V5A-- ?-- ? -- ? -- ?-- ?-- ?-- ?-- ?
I honestly think that ASUS is just kicking these things out the door as fast as possible and not putting enough time into actually working on or even attempting to co-develop drivers. They just slap in a reference driver that works and go. Even the JB source for TF300 has the exact same NANDs referenced.
After seeing this I started looking through the Prime forum and see the devs there had came to this conclusion months ago. It seems we've put to much faith into this company. Yes, they've set the bar a little higher in terms of hardware, but they apparently are unwilling or unable to make it work well
As mentioned before with proper source code developers could fix a lot. We need to push for source code.
The io performance has something to do with the synching between tegra and sqlite. It's so bad or it was on tf201 that it can't possibly be all hardware as a cause.
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Hi, I dont know if this is the right place.. it says ask about anything. Well, I wanted to upgrade my RAM, I have 4gb with 2 sticks of
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number M471B5773CHS-CH9
Serial Number 61DD220B
Now, its expandable to 8gb but I don't know what brands are good. I havent built a computer for over 10yrs, and havent kept up with its tech please, can someone recommend some. I also have 2 slots only.. Thank you.
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Hi, I dont know if this is the right place.. it says ask about anything. Well, I wanted to upgrade my RAM, I have 4gb with 2 sticks of
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number M471B5773CHS-CH9
Serial Number 61DD220B
Now, its expandable to 8gb but I don't know what brands are good. I havent built a computer for over 10yrs, and havent kept up with its tech please, can someone recommend some. I also have 2 slots only.. Thank you.
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On Crucial's website they have a memory configurator that will tell you what options work.
noodles2224 said:
Hi, I dont know if this is the right place.. it says ask about anything. Well, I wanted to upgrade my RAM, I have 4gb with 2 sticks of
Type DDR3
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer Samsung
Max Bandwidth PC3-10700 (667 MHz)
Part Number M471B5773CHS-CH9
Serial Number 61DD220B
Now, its expandable to 8gb but I don't know what brands are good. I havent built a computer for over 10yrs, and havent kept up with its tech please, can someone recommend some. I also have 2 slots only.. Thank you.
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This is not the right place no, this is a forum for developers of mobile devices, if you need computer help you should head over to the off topic computer help thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765837
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This is not the right place no, this is a forum for developers of mobile devices, if you need computer help you should head over to the off topic computer help thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765837
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check compatible ram on your motherboards manufacture website, then do a review on some of them on google for whats best.
make sure u get 2 of the same type!
eastbayrae said:
On Crucial's website they have a memory configurator that will tell you what options work.
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Thank you, worked great and found my 2x4gb
Hello,
I just bought the G2 used that has 4.2.2 so rooting should be easy; just wondering if there's any mods to be able to use the entire 32 GB storage or if any custom ROM can allow the use of the entire 32 GB of internal storage.
Thank you
chogau1 said:
Hello,
I just bought the G2 used that has 4.2.2 so rooting should be easy; just wondering if there's any mods to be able to use the entire 32 GB storage or if any custom ROM can allow the use of the entire 32 GB of internal storage.
Thank you
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The internal storage chip is physically 32GB, so just like a computer hard drive, the file system will cut down on that. So no, you can't use the entire 32GB of storage, ever. However, if you install one of the lightweight ROM's you might be able to free up some space. Not entirely sure, as I just got this phone as well. Personally, I'm a bit confused on how to root this thing ATM. Should I follow Utesred's root guide, minus the reverting to 4.2.2 step?
If you are on JB 4.2.2, use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869
Roms are around 200 megas, that should leave at least 30gb, can anyone confirm if that's the case?
chogau1 said:
If you are on JB 4.2.2, use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869
Roms are around 200 megas, that should leave at least 30gb, can anyone confirm if that's the case?
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32GB of flash memory is actually ~29.8GB. Conversion here. Marketed gigabyte is 1,000,000,000 bytes, but the actual size is 1,074,000,000 bytes. Android partitions the storage just like Linux, so the storage available to the end user is actually smaller than the total. These partition sizes differ based on the phone, so there might be some issues if you try to re-partition it to open up more space. If you want more room for media, best bet is to get a USB OTG cable and a small, high capacity USB drive, or some companies sell drives similar to this.
Sorry, but someone more versed in the LG G2 in particular would have to chime in to give you the specifics. You could try asking on the general G2 Q&A forums.
Based on the lack of basic knowledge of drive space. It would be simpler to answer the op original question as a virtually impossible task for someone of his skill level. Changing the partitions size to optimize for space brings up all kinds of problems even in a custom rom.
I want the Nexus 5 has a larger memory, currently it only has 16GB. Too little
I understand there are two ways to upgrade the memory device :
1. Insert a Memory Card
2.Rather Chip Me 32-64-128Gb
What plan should I choose : 1 or 2
3. Buy 32GB version.
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Currently in Vietnam there is only 16GB
consolation said:
3. Buy 32GB version.
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VN_Optimus said:
Currently in Vietnam there is only 16GB
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its 2016! still 16gb Wow!.... go for emcc chip 32gigs!
When changing the memory to 32 GB have i to do any system modifications, programming the chip ? or only replace the memory. [emoji54]
You would have to change the motherboad to increase the memory to 32 gb. You cannot replace the memory chip yourself.
Edit: I am wrong because it looks like you can replace the memory chip.
http://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-5-hardware-modded-to-64gb-internal-storage-by-replacing-emmc/
Actually you can... if you have some decent soldering / reflowing skills and can purchase a compatible 32GB eMMC... there's a thread or two around about a guy upgrading a 16gb one to 64gb (but had to do some partition manipulation etc because there's no offical 64gb version.)
I'd love to see how someone replaced the chip because those solder points are so fine. I could never find any threads where someone was successful. Also, I could not even find anyone that successfully replaced a damaged sim slot.
Edit: yup, looks like it can be done.
http://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-5-hardware-modded-to-64gb-internal-storage-by-replacing-emmc/
I need to study more, not as simple as I thought