[help needed] terminology and a clear answer? - Android Apps and Games

Im a bit of a noob when it comes to Android.
im more a windows mobile person however....
For xmas i recieved an android tablet which is an awesome toy! but ive had issues with making the widgets work on the home screen - they dont show up.
Ive read forums and forums all day and each forum points back to xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780828&page=13
Looks great, downloaded the apk tried to copy it to the system/app folder but it wont let me do it.
Ive managed to confuse myself after hours of reading so hoping someone can give me some ideas.
Ive read about needing the device 'rooted' i still dont understand what this is n how i do it.
Ive also read the file is to be pushed into the folder??
Ive downloaded the terminal emulator, file explorer etc... tried copy/paste, move, cut etc... all with the same answer of insufficent access.
The terminal emulator on the other hand i cannot use as its all touch screen with no hard buttons once running i cannot type into the program.
surely theres an easier way to load things into the system folders?
Sorry if its the wrong section or what seems a simple ask for some direction, I'm used to windows mobile and htc sence modding where you can just delete and replace files at will

Hey,
Root is like the administrator in Windows. By default, you have a user account, not a root or admin account. And therefore you're access permissions are limited. You do not have write permissions to most internal directories and are pretty much limited to the sd card, which is kinda like 'home' in linux or 'my documents' in windows. Also, cannot run applications that require su (superuser, ie: root, admin).
Rooting is the act of accessing the root user account, or admin account. Like 'jail-breaking' in the apple world.
How to root your android depends on which model you have.
For installing the widget app, as long as its an .apk file, you should be able to just click on it and be prompted to install it.
To access your widgets, should be able to log press on a blank area of the home screen and get a option box to select from. Or if you have a 'menu' button there should be an add option.
To use the Terminal, long press 'menu' and your keyboard will popup. Or click menu and there will be an option for the keyboard, also settings to change color, text size and others.
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Also, in the terminal, it will use linux commands, not windows commands.
You can google android commands and get a list of common commands.
Good luck. Have fun. If you don't have some linux experience, it may seem like there's a steep learning curve, but most things will become easy after a little tinkering.
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im finding this an incredibly steep curve - a bit too steep lol

I would recommend searching <(name of device) root guide> and then you will find your way around.
But, i don't think you need root, root is for when you need to install applications that you need higher permissions to control system settings. Also to install different versions of android.
Your problem seems to be only a bug. If you want to install an application that is not on the market, you just go to your settings and turn on installing from unknown sources.
You don't need to put it in system apps, the apk is like an .exe, just put it on your sd card, install a file manager program like ASTRO, and then open that app, go to the directory you transfered the file, and click it, ASTRO will give you the ability to install it.

patriotaus said:
I would recommend searching <(name of device) root guide> and then you will find your way around.
But, i don't think you need root, root is for when you need to install applications that you need higher permissions to control system settings. Also to install different versions of android.
Your problem seems to be only a bug. If you want to install an application that is not on the market, you just go to your settings and turn on installing from unknown sources.
You don't need to put it in system apps, the apk is like an .exe, just put it on your sd card, install a file manager program like ASTRO, and then open that app, go to the directory you transfered the file, and click it, ASTRO will give you the ability to install it.
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I dont think rooting is essential to do this but from what ive read - it helps.
the app in question is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780828
this should replace the file on my system which doesnt work. unless anyone has a suggestion to get the same item by installing an apk to achieve as per the instructions state "copy into system/app and set permissions"

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[Q] Renaming Files and Folders

Hi all,
Loving my Optimus 3D but can't seem to work out how to rename files and folders. I know once you have taken a photo it gives you the option to Rename, but I was wondering how I could go back and rename photos and video files, and folders from before (without connecting to my computer). Anyone know?
Also can you create folders within the phone for content? And can you organize content in the Applications section, e.g. sorting Downloads in order or placing them in different categories.
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers
karlgent said:
Hi all,
Loving my Optimus 3D but can't seem to work out how to rename files and folders. I know once you have taken a photo it gives you the option to Rename, but I was wondering how I could go back and rename photos and video files, and folders from before (without connecting to my computer). Anyone know?
Also can you create folders within the phone for content? And can you organize content in the Applications section, e.g. sorting Downloads in order or placing them in different categories.
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers
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To rename files and folders and create folders on your phone you'd have to have an explorer app that allows you to browse your filesystem. I'm not aware of any browser apps that don't require root (ie. Astro or Root Explorer) but then again, I've never had the need for one and always had my phones rooted.
You might wanna be carefull when renaming folders and files though.
I don't think the standard launcher allows changing the contents of the applications drawer.
Thanks for the response, appreciate it. At the risk of sounding like a total noob, what do you mean when you say having your phone rooted? I'm total new to smart phones and always just had an old simple mobile.
Also, is the Optimus 3D like the iPhone in that you need to hack it to install apps downloaded from your PC for free or can you install any apps via PC
get "estrongs file explorer". it's free and does many many many more amazing things than just letting you rename files without root requirement.
karlgent said:
Thanks for the response, appreciate it. At the risk of sounding like a total noob, what do you mean when you say having your phone rooted? I'm total new to smart phones and always just had an old simple mobile.
Also, is the Optimus 3D like the iPhone in that you need to hack it to install apps downloaded from your PC for free or can you install any apps via PC
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Rooting a phone basically gets you super access, kind of like having an administrator account on Windows. It comes in handy for example when you want to use custom roms, get complete file access, use screenshot tools etc.
And an Android phone is in no way an iPhone when it comes to installing apps. There's an option that when turned on allows the installation of apps you didn't get from the Market (it's in the Application section of your options menu). Presuming you only use free programs you downloaded you can just put the .apk file on your internal or external sd card and install it, either by using a file browser (such as the mentioned Estrong) to find the apk or using a separate app installer which you can download from the Market.
Awesome, thanks for the reply really appreciate it, and I actually understand it now.
So if I downloaded and installed an app or game from the internet for free, that usually had to be bought on the Android market or from Gameloft for example, could you get in trouble or banned/blocked in any way?
Sorry if this is a noob/inappropriate question
Cheers
no. google actiually lets you do what you want with your device.
Awesome, good to know. I'm really wanting the Gangstar games from gameloft but they aren't available to purchase via Gameloft yet. I can download the pirated versions and install them, but would Gameloft cause any problems when I did so or would I always have to play in airplane mode?
Most pirated software works just like the original version, just check if there's any installation instructions. The biggest disadvantage in my opinion is not being able to update pirated software through the Market.
You can use Polaris Office included in the phone as file explorer for all the naming, copying etc.. The name is a bit misleading
Nice, I didn't know that Polaris was a glorified file browser. Works great for viewing, editing and removing files and folders.
So, to the topicstarter, this is all you need to do the things you want. You can edit your filesystem and browse to your downloaded apps to install them (for example create a map called DownloadedApps, connect your phone to your pc, copy any downloaded apps to the map you created, disconnect, use Polaris to browse to the DownloadedApps map and click on any app you want to install).
If you want to rename a file or folder just long press on it and you'll be presented with all the options you need.
Yeah, I just had a play around with it, looks and works really good. Thanks for all the help folks much appreciated.
PS - If anyone could provide instructions and a link on how to install the Gangstar games (hereby showing me how to install ripped games at the same time) I would very much appreciate it. Been having no luck getting it to work

Bloatware Removal

I finally Rooted my Sidekick and have Titanium Backup Free installed. I want to remove the bloatware from the Phone Storage. Which titles would you recommend removing and which to leave alone??
Any suggestions
I removed a lot of apps. I removed device carbon, zipwhip, group text, cloud text, tmobile contacts backup, twitter, myspace, the stock browser, gmail, wifi calling, telenav, tmobile app pack, tmobile mall, maybe some others i cant remember. i replaced the stock browser with dolphin mini which i use for only mobile browsing. i also have opera mobile which i use for desktop browsing. i use google maps for navigation. i downloaded gmail from the market. seems the preloaded version may be faulty but the market version works fine. i used an app from the market called apps2rom to convert gmail, dolphin, opera, and a few other user apps to system apps. seems to work good so far.
sidekick_fanatic said:
I removed a lot of apps. I removed device carbon, zipwhip, group text, cloud text, tmobile contacts backup, twitter, myspace, the stock browser, gmail, wifi calling, telenav, tmobile app pack, tmobile mall, maybe some others i cant remember. i replaced the stock browser with dolphin mini which i use for only mobile browsing. i also have opera mobile which i use for desktop browsing. i use google maps for navigation. i downloaded gmail from the market. seems the preloaded version may be faulty but the market version works fine. i used an app from the market called apps2rom to convert gmail, dolphin, opera, and a few other user apps to system apps. seems to work good so far.
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out of curiosity, how exactly did u remove those apps? adb remove?
no. i use an app called total commander. you wont find it in the market yet, so just google total commander for android or visit ghisler.com. when you open total commander in landscape mode, you should see a button with a green plus sign. if you dont see that, switch to portrait mode and hit the botton with the two green arrows. then you should see the green plus sign. when you hit the green plus sign, a window will pop up that says add/edit button. at the top of the window it will say change directory. click that and change it to internal command. then click where it says command and select 119 remount. this will only work with root access. click ok/apply. you will now have a button with an r on it. go into any partition and click the r button and it will remount as r/w. when mounted as r/w, the button will also display r/w. click the button again and it will remount as r/o. go into system/app and remount as r/w and you can delete any system app. when im done i usually remount as read only again just to be safe. you probably already know this, but you have to allow total commander su permissions for this to work. but thats how i do it.
You can also use root browser by jrummy 16 he allows u to have the full verison for free
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The easiest way to uninstall "uninstallable"/preloaded apps is with TiBu...
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there are several good ways to remove system apps. any file browser with root functions will do the job. i like total commander because it has two windows, you can copy from one window and paste in the other, i like the interface, and i like the way it displays folders. it is also free, and it is the "full version". its an app thats currently in development. right now release candidate 4 is the current version. i dont know when the official version comes out, but i know it will be in the market. also dont know if it will be paid or free, but i think free. right now its free, if it becomes paid, i will have to find another root browser that i like. but i hope it stays free. i doubt i will like any other browser as much as i like total commander.
i also have converted several user apps to system using an app called apps2rom. its available in the market for free if anyone is interested. its very straightforward. select the apps you want to convert, click move, allow the device to reboot, and voila! its done.
Titanium Backup Free also allows for free app block/removal (and this is for a *rooted* Sidekick 4G). (and it is what I have installed )
Just get a custom rom like glorious overdose..it will save you the trouble of going through each unnecessary app and deleting it..a good rom like that is already fast and lightweight..
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some people want to stay on the stock firmware, myself being one of them. removing bloatware really isnt that troublesome. if you spend a little time figuring out how to do it, it really takes no time at all. removing bloatware takes most of the bugs out of the stock firmware anyway (now is the part when people start screaming about touchwiz being the main problem, but it works fine for me). not everyone needs a custom rom though.
I finally tried to block an app but found out that feature is only in the PAID (aka DONATION) version of Titanium Backup. Cheapskate that I am, I went to your "Total Commander for Android" (1.0 rc4) and downloaded it. Any suggestions on how to use it?
sidekick_fanatic said:
no. i use an app called total commander. you wont find it in the market yet, so just google total commander for android or visit ghisler.com. when you open total commander in landscape mode, you should see a button with a green plus sign. if you dont see that, switch to portrait mode and hit the botton with the two green arrows. then you should see the green plus sign. when you hit the green plus sign, a window will pop up that says add/edit button. at the top of the window it will say change directory. click that and change it to internal command. then click where it says command and select 119 remount. this will only work with root access. click ok/apply. you will now have a button with an r on it. go into any partition and click the r button and it will remount as r/w. when mounted as r/w, the button will also display r/w. click the button again and it will remount as r/o. go into system/app and remount as r/w and you can delete any system app. when im done i usually remount as read only again just to be safe. you probably already know this, but you have to allow total commander su permissions for this to work. but thats how i do it.
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these are all the instructions you need to delete apps i cant explain it any better
I guess I am not sure where to LOOK for the system files. not sure which folders have the files in them (no clue about how Android sets up their stuff in the root directory) but I saw the R & the icons mentioned, etc.
open total commander. click file system root. scroll down, click system. then click app. then remount, delete the apps you want, then remount back to read only. if you are not sure what an app is or does, google it. thats how i figured certain things out. i dont remember what any of them are, i only looked them up and deleted them. i also suggest if you have cwm recovery that you boot into it after deleting system apps and run fix permissions. to do that, boot into cwm, scroll down and select advanced, then select fix permissions. you dont have to do it after you delete every system app, just delete a bunch and then do it. android stores permissions for every app, and i theorize that deleting system apps causes permissions errors similar to registry errors in windows. fix permissions takes care of that.
re-reading stuff now. Where to I move them to? I am thinking of making a new folder in my SD card and moving stuff there. I can then upload the stuff to my SugarSync account for permanent storage.
I removed the default Contacts APP. the "CONTACTS" word disappeared for the home screen. I used Go Contacts Pro. if I move that app into the system folder, will the "CONTACTS" Shortcut come back?
Also getting constant "android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly" Force Close error again and again. How do I fix this?
also, where do I find "cwm recovery"??
i looked here and don't see anything:
https://market.android.com/search?q=cwm+recovery&c=apps
AND
https://market.android.com/developer?pub=ClockworkMod&start=0&num=12
I tried this 1:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.stericson.permissionfix
But it didn't seem to do anything. Still getting the "acore" Force Close error
after a bit more research on the error, it looks like Facebook & Contacts are the main culprits. i will attempt re installing them back into the system app folder.

Deleting history gave me 2gig of space!!

Hi people.
Was doing a little game play testing today when I re-downloaded hydro thunder to test it with the 360 controller. The thing is when I did it took like a minute to download and install. With the file size been 400mb I knew they was something up.
So as title says I went to control panel then internet options and deleted temporary files and history and bam 2.1gig extra. I find it silly that when you uninstall apps it keeps over half of the install size in the cache, stupid really.
And on another note when playing games on surface rt, playing with the 360 control removes all lag spikes.
Just did some browsing and maybe something else was involved. When I looked at the folder containing my temporary internet files, the largest was < 1MB. Nothing there looked like any remnants of an app. I will take a look at running the cleanup app, though. While nothing _should_ be left behind, I can easily believe that something would be left behind....
paschott said:
Just did some browsing and maybe something else was involved. When I looked at the folder containing my temporary internet files, the largest was < 1MB. Nothing there looked like any remnants of an app. I will take a look at running the cleanup app, though. While nothing _should_ be left behind, I can easily believe that something would be left behind....
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Yes I found it odd, do me a favour download something large in size. Uninstall it then reinstall , it will take minutes to reinstall. Something is definitely going on here.
When updating Store apps, you'll often get an old copy of the app left as well, for some reason (as in, sitting in the \Program Files\WindowsApps install location). Disk Cleanup may take care of that, though.
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When updating Store apps, you'll often get an old copy of the app left as well, for some reason (as in, sitting in the \Program Files\WindowsApps install location). Disk Cleanup may take care of that, though.
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Ugh - owned and locked by "Trusted Installer" - bane of my existence when it comes to system files and such. Hoping I can get to it on the Surface, but haven't tried yet. I'm always wary of trying to change permissions like this just because of what could break.
It may be owned by TruestedInstaller, but it's writable by Adminstrator. Just alunch an Admin CMD or Powershell prompt, and you can delete stuff to year herat's content. If you want a GUI, here's one way: launch Notepad (fromt eh Admin prompt), then use File -> Open and treat the Open dialog as an Explorer window. Explorer itself will refuse to run as Admin; if you try, it will downgrade its own permissions.
I cannot even get into program files to check, It says i do not have the rite permissions . And i do not even know where to start to allow it?
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It may be owned by TruestedInstaller, but it's writable by Adminstrator. Just alunch an Admin CMD or Powershell prompt, and you can delete stuff to year herat's content. If you want a GUI, here's one way: launch Notepad (fromt eh Admin prompt), then use File -> Open and treat the Open dialog as an Explorer window. Explorer itself will refuse to run as Admin; if you try, it will downgrade its own permissions.
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Administrator prompt worked. However, looking through there on my Windows 8 work machine, I didn't see any leftover files (which is good). I haven't tried it on the Surface yet, but will try to do that later. Thanks for the tip.

[Q] Side Loading/Sideloading how to guide

Is there a Droid Maxx specific how to guide for side loading apk files? If so, please share the link.
For the life of me my google abilities can't turn up a walk through specific to the Droid Maxx. I keep getting a lot of results for the older Razr Maxx, but that's a different animal.
I'm wanting to side load on a factory reset phone with the bootloader still locked and no Rooting done. I've got a few apps from older phones I'd like to put on my Maxx which are no longer available on the market and I've read that a few others here have been sideloading the Nexus mail management apk to get around the data limiting download features of the standard corp mail app installed on these phones.
Thanks
Wes
Wangstang said:
Is there a Droid Maxx specific how to guide for side loading apk files? If so, please share the link.
For the life of me my google abilities can't turn up a walk through specific to the Droid Maxx. I keep getting a lot of results for the older Razr Maxx, but that's a different animal.
I'm wanting to side load on a factory reset phone with the bootloader still locked and no Rooting done. I've got a few apps from older phones I'd like to put on my Maxx which are no longer available on the market and I've read that a few others here have been sideloading the Nexus mail management apk to get around the data limiting download features of the standard corp mail app installed on these phones.
Thanks
Wes
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First of all if you have Internet connection on your phone, download a file manager app from the play store. Maybe something like ES File Explorer. This is to make sure you are able to install apk files later. Go to Settings - Security & Screen Lock. Find 'Unknown sources' option and enable it. Connect your phone to your pc (I assume you have Windows) with the usb cable, check your phone and make sure it says there 'Connected as media device'. Open up Windows Explorer, you should find the phone under Portable Devices section. Get into the Internal Storage folder, create a temporary folder and put all your apps apk inside it. Unplug the phone, fire up the file explorer and go to the apk folder. Just select the apk and it will do the rest of the installation.
Btw, you will not be able to side load system apps without root.
pijes said:
First of all if you have Internet connection on your phone, download a file manager app from the play store. Maybe something like ES File Explorer. This is to make sure you are able to install apk files later. Go to Settings - Security & Screen Lock. Find 'Unknown sources' option and enable it. Connect your phone to your pc (I assume you have Windows) with the usb cable, check your phone and make sure it says there 'Connected as media device'. Open up Windows Explorer, you should find the phone under Portable Devices section. Get into the Internal Storage folder, create a temporary folder and put all your apps apk inside it. Unplug the phone, fire up the file explorer and go to the apk folder. Just select the apk and it will do the rest of the installation.
Btw, you will not be able to side load system apps without root.
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Thanks for the walk through. The apps in particulart I'm wanting to sideload are games and ringtone apps so I don't think I'll run into any issues.
Thanks again!
Wes

|ROOT/ADB?| Fully stopping Instant Apps from installing ever again

Hey guys, this is my first thread, and I'm a bit confused on the app. Today I'll tell how did I stop the freaking google 'malware' from installing and updating every single day. This would work on any rooted device that has access to the data partition, maybe it could be reproduced via adb without root.
First off, I searched everywhere looking on how to disable, uninstall, break, or do anything to this forced battery hog. The best answers were using 'pm hide' on the package but this caused a very high battery usage, due to the file dependencies. So I searched where it was installed. Luckily enough, it is an user app, so it means I would find it on /data/app and /data/data. I will use solid explorer, but any file manager with root access and chmod to change permissions should do just fine.
Once we locate the folder (/data/app/com.google.android.instantapps.supervisor-1 in my case) we delete it. Utterly. After that, we will create a file, and name it exactly the same as the folder did. This is a dummy file that the system will believe it is a folder, and will try to install the application inside it. We fill that file with enough random characters for making the system think it can't just delete it (sometimes cleaners point empty files as worthless and wipe them out)
Now we need to make the dummy file unremovable for anyone but us, by using chmod. Solid explorer has a nice interface for that. We long press the file, enter to properties and set the permission to 0 0 0 (attributes tab). This makes play store unable to delete the file to recover the old folder, and when it tries to download the package, it will fail because it won't have a respective folder to be sent to.
After this, we reboot the phone and see that google play services for instant apps has lost roughly 90% of it's size, and when we enter settings>google>google play instant it'll ask for installation. I was bold enough to accept, just for getting an error dialogue when it tried to install itself.
Known issue: The app reinstalls once again after reboot. The cause is that, when android can't install the app in the first folder (the one that ends with a -1), it can create a second one (ending with a -2 instead), like an alternative. This is solved by just doing the same procedure above on the second folder, and you will end up having two dummy files instead of one. A third folder cannot show up, or at least it didn't in my phone.
Notes: You can repeat this with the folder in /data/data and any other data partition level instant app folder, but I wouldn't do it because I already broke all functionality since I deleted the base apk, and the app size is less than 300KB now so I don't think the trouble is worth it.
You must whitelist these files from any memory cleaner, i.e SD maid corpse finder will delete it thinking it's a leftover of an old app
WARNING; I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MISLEADS, WRONGS, OR PLUTONIUM-UNSTABLE ROMS THAT MAY EXPLODE IN ANY WAY. YOU ARE THE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DEVICE'S SAFETY AS THIS ISN'T EVEN FULLY TESTED IN MY PHONE AND I DON'T KNOW THE ULTIMATE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING THIS. YOU ARE WARNED.
PD: Please make some suggestions about how I made the thread, I did what I think it's my best

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