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How low do you think the gtab's price will drop after all the tablets come out? $350 or lower, maybe? I've heard of the Asus Tegra 2 tablet which will have a price point starting at $399.
What do you think?
Who knows...
There are also a whole bunch of tablets in the $500+ range and many that are smaller that cost more then $399.
Netbooks are in the $200 - $300 range and have many more parts, so why are tablets more expensive then netbooks?
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Who knows...
There are also a whole bunch of tablets in the $500+ range and many that are smaller that cost more then $399.
Netbooks are in the $200 - $300 range and have many more parts, so why are tablets more expensive then netbooks?
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I keep wondering about that also.
Some things are a wash (screen, physical conns., etc.) but:
Netbook:
+ keyboard
+ Windows license cost ($35?)
+ Drive or SSD ($50?)
Tablet:
+ touchscreen
Seems like a tablet should cost less than a netbook?
Probably we're paying for lower volumes and covering their tooling costs...
Jim
ASUS transformer is scheduled to be released by April (tegra2 + 512M + min-hdmi + IPS screen with $399). To be honest, by that time, viewsonic may release Gtablet 2, Gtablet 1st generation may not be sold anymore, so there may not be a price drop.
Don't worry, the Gtablet is very good, and we just need to find a 10.1 inch IPS replacement screen (with a reasonable price ~$50), then, we are all set.
This is electronic equipment. You have to expect that whatever you pay for it now will not be the price 3 months from now.
We also get to use this for 3 months before everyone else starts pumping out new tablets, it's already better than the Ipad and $100 less than the Ipad.
You might see it disappear off the shelves before you see a major price drop - I would suspect the former. My guess is that it will disappear from the B&M stores in the next 4 to 6 months. I actually don't think it's going to drop under $350 again, it will probably just fade away.
It really depends on whether or not Viewsonic feels that the item is making money, and what its plans are for a GTab successor. I guess CES will tell the tale on the second part.
My guess is they will release JUST ENOUGH updates to get it half way working right and then drop it and announce the successor.
Hopefully our dev community will take us up to honeycomb before dropping it and moving on (would be good enough for me).
Price drop? Doubt it will go below $350 before successor hits.
Maybe something like that mystery 320 w/1GB and an IPS screen w/1280x resolution for the Gtab2??
That'd be cool!
tyy10002 said:
ASUS transformer is scheduled to be released by April (tegra2 + 512M + min-hdmi + IPS screen with $399). To be honest, by that time, viewsonic may release Gtablet 2, Gtablet 1st generation may not be sold anymore, so there may not be a price drop.
Don't worry, the Gtablet is very good, and we just need to find a 10.1 inch IPS replacement screen (with a reasonable price ~$50), then, we are all set.
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I know my gtab is very good. I never thought the gtab was unfairly priced even at $399. When I saw the asus price this prompted me to think a price drop is looming for the gtab which would indicate that tablet prices would stablize after the 1st qtr. (Which would be great).
I honestly thought the gtab would eventually be the "bargain" tablet of 2011 compared to the newer tablets.
We're still a few months away for honeycomb to come out. I'm going to enjoy the most out of my gtab until then. I'm guessing honeycomb for the gtab will follow soon after... official or unofficial.
Help!!! I've been following this Viewsonic G Tablet forum and just about to purchase the Viewsonic G at Office Depot sale for $379! And then just a minute ago, Costco is selling Samsung Galaxy Tab for $399 no contract required. For no contract, there is 1st month data plan of $20(cancel after 1st month) and $35(refundable with 2 yearcontract) for activation fee.
Help!!! I'm torn!! Dual Core/10inch or singlecore/7inch-portability
I'm getting a headache!
I have both of these tabs. Out of the box the Samsung is ready to roll, I could do anything pertaining to my business with out adding apps. It is a solid performing device, I have had no issues at all with mine. Its plenty fast. All the Market apps I have added installed and work without any fuss.
The Gtab is great fun I really enjoy trying the great work of the developers here at XDA and it can be made to run circles around the Samsung, but it is an addicting time consuming device. If you like to tinker get the gtab, if you need to be productive. I think the Samsung is the better choice, it's reliable and just works when I need it. The Samsung is the tablet I take with me out of the office. The gtab is my free time entertainment. At $399.00 I think the Samsung is a steal, I paid considerably more for mine and don't regret it.
ahhh... that's the beauty of the return policy. I too wanted a Galaxy Tab but held off and so glad I did. I dont think I could use a 7" tablet as it's not much bigger than my phone (probably slower too).
Just our of curiosity? Where did you see $399 NO contract, when I checked Costco, it showed $399, new service / upgrade / add-a-line from Verizon only?
OP might have missed th contract part. A $400 Galaxy Tab would mean instant gloom and doom posts by the Apple fan site known as Engadget
oh, no 2 year contract, only the first month data $20, then u can cancel that. I just read the $35 activation fee is refunded on 2 year contract, let me add that on title. Go to Costco.com then Electronics, Cell Phones, then Tablets & Data Cards Category.
Samsung Galaxy Tab™
* Touch Screen
* Android OS
* No Contract Required
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I own the G Tablet BUT have used the Galaxy Tab for work. Here is how I see it:
Galaxy TAB:
PRO:
Great form factor - if you prefer smaller screen
Amazing quality screen
Light weight
Strong Community Support
Supported by Vendor
CON:
Poor performance in stock form- especially if your coming from the GTablet, any of the higher end google phones or any of the apple products (ipad or iphone)
Community Support limited to GSM models mostly - more focus on NON-American carriers (though are supported eventually as long as it supports GSM)
Contract - after 2 years you could have bought a small used car for the price of this device.
Less future proof - still questionable if it will support Android 3.0 (2.4)
Questionable vendor support - Updates dont come frequently
GTAB
PRO:
Very fast without stock interface
Amazing community support - even for amateur
Amazing price point
Very future proof - Dual Core, 512 Meg of ram
Very large internal storage
No Contract
CON:
Screen quality is horrible in portrait and acceptable in landscape but with poor viewing angles.
Need to be somewhat tech savvy to play around with performance enhancing OS's.
Heavy for an e-reader though it doesn't bother me.
Little no vendor support - questionable with recent posts of whether or not Viewsonic will support this in the future.
vnox said:
Help!!! I've been following this Viewsonic G Tablet forum and just about to purchase the Viewsonic G at Office Depot sale for $379! And then just a minute ago, Costco is selling Samsung Galaxy Tab for $399 no contract required. For no contract, there is 1st month data plan of $20(cancel after 1st month) and $35(refundable with 2 yearcontract) for activation fee.
Help!!! I'm torn!! Dual Core/10inch or singlecore/7inch-portability
I'm getting a headache!
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How long do you want to wait before replacing it? If you buy a gadget ever couple years, get the GTab, it will be running the latest and greatest for at least the next year, and not feel outdated compared to the market options until a year following.
If you are one of these gadget lovers who gets a toy every 6 months then the galaxy may be worth your while as you'll be able to resell it better than the gtab in 6 months when you get a new android 3.0 tablet to replace it.
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How long do you want to wait before replacing it? If you buy a gadget ever couple years, get the GTab, it will be running the latest and greatest for at least the next year, and not feel outdated compared to the market options until a year following.
If you are one of these gadget lovers who gets a toy every 6 months then the galaxy may be worth your while as you'll be able to resell it better than the gtab in 6 months when you get a new android 3.0 tablet to replace it.
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That is a great point.
vnox said:
Help!!! I've been following this Viewsonic G Tablet forum and just about to purchase the Viewsonic G at Office Depot sale for $379! And then just a minute ago, Costco is selling Samsung Galaxy Tab for $399 no contract required. For no contract, there is 1st month data plan of $20(cancel after 1st month) and $35(refundable with 2 yearcontract) for activation fee.
Help!!! I'm torn!! Dual Core/10inch or singlecore/7inch-portability
I'm getting a headache!
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Best Buy do the Same...
I would wait and get the gtab from the Sears outlet... and also the Nook Color. Now you have 2 tablets for not much more than the cheapest iPad.
I would never go for a 7" tablet as my only tablet. That's too small for comfortable web browsing. I would only get a 7" in addition to a 10". A 10" tablet is the perfect size for browsing and the processor on the g-tab is top of the line.
There is a BIG difference between a 7" and 10" screen. Highly recommend you go look at and play with an example of each, in person before you decide. I did and as others have said, a 7" screen just didn't seem big enough but the 10" form factor is perfect for a tablet in my opinion. YMMV.
I have both a 10" (g tablet) and a 7" (eLocity A7) and can tell you that they both have their place. 10 is great for viewing content and web surfing. The 7" tablet is just really handy easy to hold and carry with you. I have found myself using the the 7" tablet more often lately. If I'm on the go I will grab the A7 nine times out of ten.
Now I will also say having a powerful Tegra2 chip is nice and both devices are fast, but if you not able to run the apps you want that extra powqer does little for you. I bet both of my device could run Google Earth faster and smoother than the Galaxy Tab, except I have yet to get either device to run Google Earth. Great hardware means little if the sofware dosen't run right.
Now, I love my tegra2 tablets and just hope in time the kinks will get worked out and I can runs all the apps I like. I can't say I have a lot of faith the Viewsonic and eLocity (Stream TV) will deliver, I just hope the XDA community is able to pull it off.
thanks everyone! ok ok
gTablet Office Depot sale ends 1/29 for $379.
Galaxy Tab -Costco and Best Buy have it both for $399 but Costco has 90day refund and 2 year warranty.
From what I read I like the Samsung's 7inch for tag-alongs, and GPS(?) not mentioned on Samsung's website for Verizon.
Viewsonic's gTablet's got power, Anandtech test shows lots of muscles. Honeycomb would just be right around the corner.
I've done custom roms on other devices before so I'm comfortable with that. And now I'm leaning towards Viewsonic GTablet at 95%
I wonder which plays Bejeweled Blitz without issues, standalone of through Facebook
I checked out the sears outlet deal from the store in Nevada. They have a standard shipping fee of $65.
When the lady on the phone told me that i said yall must not really want to ship things, and she just kind of laughed.
I bought the gTablet Saturday, Sears had it for $379, wrong price on the tag but they were able to give it to me.
This thing is Double Rainbow Awesomeness! Viewing angle? it's fine!
Got it to latest Vegan, no issues there.
Launcher Pro, even Bejeweled Blitz Facebook worked flawlessly.
Thanks everyone! I'll try every custom ROM available soon, if I can get it away from my wife and 2 girls(10 and 6year old)
The gTablet is one solid product! I'm glad I chose it over the Galaxy.
Sears Outlet link for searching online?
nevermind. I found the link.
So I just noticed that the G Tablet is no longer listed at Sears, Staples, and Kmart online hope this doesnt mean anything bad for the future of the gtab.
still there
I'm still seeing it on amazon.com and Kmart's site.
I noticed that myself. If you follow the "purchase online" link from Viewsonic, all links show not available. I did talk to a rep @ my local Office Depot who said he just received 6 more on his last order that stated "final shipment". They are now directed to order the VIEWPAD 10 which is the dual boot W7/ android version.
Makes me wonder if Viewsonic is halting production on the GTab.
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I'm still seeing it on amazon.com and Kmart's site.
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Def not listed on kmarts website. unless you are mistaking it for another device, and as said in previous post on viewsonics website they arent showing it listed anywhere either. as for that dual boot tablet that seems cool but last i heard it was running 1.6 which is just not acceptable.
GTAB still available at the Office Depot
This is where I bought mine, and the price dropped by $20.
DRATS!! *lol*
http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/tablet-pcs/N=5+509621/
tekrhino said:
This is where I bought mine, and the price dropped by $20
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Good to see that it is still on some shelves but it is a little scary that it looks like they are dropping it since noone is carrying it anymore, even though we have the best devs out there with the gtab in hands doing ground breaking work every day on xda
*UPDATED* Viewsonic's website no longer has a link for "online merchants" or "stores near you".
Doesn't look good.
machine73 said:
*UPDATED* Viewsonic's website no longer has a link for "online merchants" or "stores near you".
Doesn't look good.
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Not at all, surprised this thread isnt getting more attention esp for the love we all have for our tablets. It was pointless though to have those 2 links if they pointed to nothing lol.
*UPDATE 2*
Just got off the phone w/ Viewsonic. Production has NOT been halted on the GTab's. Rep was only able to find it available at Sears. Nowhere else. What "might" be causing the problem is guys like us buying up all the stock from local retailers.
I was told that K-Mart especially will pull links to products that are out of stock to prevent surplus back orders.
We'll just have to keep an eye open for future developments.
Heading to Office Max right now to buy the last 1 in stock.
Brings my stable to 4. I'm happy.
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*UPDATED* Viewsonic's website no longer has a link for "online merchants" or "stores near you".
Doesn't look good.
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HUH??
Viewsonic "Find a ReSeller"
http://www.viewsonic.com/shop/find-a-reseller.htm
Online Store:
http://store.viewsonic.com/html/ibeCZzpHome.jsp?site=VS_STORE&respid=22372
Wow I ordered mine two days ago. Just under the wire. Hopefully it will be back better then ever at some point.
Tt
Those links still do not produce a Gtab for purchase.
Compare:
Gtab http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/
Vpad10 http://www.viewsonic.com/products/vpad10.htm
The Rep @ VS had no explanation as to why those links were pulled from the Gtab site.
The Gtablet has always been a stepping stone, so if it has vanished, the issue now is will the VP at Viewsonic that told us of the continued support and software updates still hold true?
BTW, the Viewpad is inferior for a few reasons for Android:
1. A lot less battery life due to Atom cpu and required fan.
2. Windows overhead
3. Android boot mode is 1.6 only
4. Atom CPU may never get support higher than 1.6, since Microsoft is pushing for the newer chipset to be used in tablets. Do not let OEM try to BS you that 2.1, yet alone 2.2 or higher is coming- Too late in the chipset curve to bother.
For an Android device and the combination of power and battery life- the Gtablet is FAR better than the Viewpad.
BTW, the current Atom based Viewpad is a stepping stone as well.
While the area Staples stores do not have the gTablets any longer, my local store's tech person told me this afternoon he "expects to have them back in stock soon." No details but then there never are about tech stuff availability when not in the store or computer. We shall see.
Sears has plenty in stock......store today had 3 or 4....
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It's still on the Sears site: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00382001000P?prdNo=16&blockNo=66&blockType=G66
In fact, they still have yet to update their site to remove the Viewpad specs...
BigJohn
it is the reality I guess, whether stores/sites still selling gtab or not, in the next few months, people won't buy it anyways. There are more better tablets (at least on the paper) coming in next few months with a similar price points such as ASUS, Elocity A10, etc. Unless Viewsonic decides to upgrade the model with a better screen, better software, etc.. I don't see how gtab can compete with others if the price is still around $350 - $400..
On the positive side, the hardware is still good enough to run the next android OS (honeycomb). I will be very satisfied if I can get honeycomb on my gtab and it can last a year..
Just my 2 cents.
That is not the g-tablet.. its the viewpad.. its different. Sears did sell both.
BigJohn89 said:
It's still on the Sears site: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00382001000P?prdNo=16&blockNo=66&blockType=G66
In fact, they still have yet to update their site to remove the Viewpad specs...
BigJohn
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That is not the g-tablet.. its the viewpad.. its different. Sears did sell both.
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The specs are definately wrong but the model # says G Tablet.
Office Depot still has them too
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/134043/ViewSonic-G-Tablet-101-Android-22/
I agree
tyy10002 said:
it is the reality I guess, whether stores/sites still selling gtab or not, in the next few months, people won't buy it anyways. There are more better tablets (at least on the paper) coming in next few months with a similar price points such as ASUS, Elocity A10, etc. Unless Viewsonic decides to upgrade the model with a better screen, better software, etc.. I don't see how gtab can compete with others if the price is still around $350 - $400..
On the positive side, the hardware is still good enough to run the next android OS (honeycomb). I will be very satisfied if I can get honeycomb on my gtab and it can last a year..
Just my 2 cents.
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i agree with you one hundred percent
I just went to tigerdirect.com and noticed that they have 3 versions of the A10 up for pre-order. Tiger is one of my "trusted" online retailers so I feel pretty good about this. The problem is StreamTV being very vague about wether or not they are going to offer this with HoneyComb, or if they are going to follow up by providing us with a OTA update. That is what has me on the fence. What do you think?
It will ship with Foyo - at least, mine will - and for now, that will be fine. A familiar firmware platform will help me get used to the new hardware, and provide a reliable point of comparison. Of course, I'm expecting to see Honeycomb on it soon enough, either via an Elocity update or XDA developers or both.
Some things that will matter to me: running apps off the SD card, important because of the limited system memory; wide viewing angles and true mulitouch; snappy interface; app compatibilty; and build quality. Am expecting the USB port to interface correctly with my PC.
Let's see! Mine should be here in 7 - 10 days.
they have 40 of each model scheduled to arrive at their warehouse 3/7/2011
I have a contact at Tiger I spoke to today regarding this item. He stated they have 40 of each model scheduled to arrive at their warehouse 3/7/2011. At the time I spoke to him he stated that 3 of the 40- 32GB models are taken one being my order the rest are still up for grabs!
Just noticed the release of GT2, and it first I thought it was just a new name for GT7+. But, a closer look reveals a few differences, like a slower (!) CPU and no flash for the back camera..
* 1,0 GHz Dual-Core Processor (unspecified)
* 1 GB RAM
* 7" 1024x600 PLS TFT
* Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
* 3 Megapixel Rear Camera (no flash), VGA Front Camera
* 8/16/32GB User memory, microSD (up to 32GB)
* 193.7 x 122.4 x 10.5 mm, 344 g
* Li-ion 4,000mAh
Prices here in Sweden will be (incl. 25 % tax):
* Wi-Fi: 2 995 SEK (~450 USD)
* 3G: 3 695 SEK (~556 USD)
Anyway, the most interesting thing imho is that the tablet in question will ship in March, according to Samsung with ICS on board. As the hardware is more or less similar (assuming the GT2 has 1,0 GHz Exynos), can we hope for some kind of official update around that time too?
I for one am a little pissed about this device. I spent $400 on a Tab Plus and instead of Samsung using their resources getting ICS out and fix the various bugs, they decide to build ANOTHER device that looks the exact same as the one they already have out.
The only reason that I can see is that the Exynos processor is causing issues and they cannot seem to fix like how my device heats up on the left side (processor side btw) so they make a new one with a different processor chip.
Either way, I feel like I've gotten the shaft with this device as I'm stuck with a gimpy version of Honeycomb and looks to be already phased out after 4 months. I guess it could be worse though... I could have gotten the T-former Prime v1.
kind of weird. why release this? got a feeling ics for our tab 7 plus will be delayed over and over again or Samsung will just end up not releasing it for the 7 plus.
the 7 plus is already down to $350. if released in USA, I find it hard to believe to sell for higher or even both at same time. awkward.
pretty sure its a tegra chip.
And my friends....Welcome to the world of Samsung. I've been saying it since the original galaxy S line. Their idea of a software update is to release a new product. We will get ICS but not this quarter and probably not the next either.
Geesh, it even looks the same.
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/02/13/meet-samsungs-first-android-4-0-tablet-the-7-inch-galaxy-tab-2/
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Hm.. Well, if it is Tegra 2 under the hood, there is a big difference (in favor for the Plus, performance wise).
Has someone found a confirmation for which SoC that is used?
Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor), the fact that it has no LED flash, and a lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 wifi tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
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Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
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I actually was a little upset that we get no ICS and that samsung did the same like they did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G or something like that, but then I looked at the specs and it seems that you may be right as it seems to be made as a budget tablet.
rkmj said:
Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor), the fact that it has no LED flash, and a lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 wifi tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
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You make good points and I get what you’re saying but I can’t believe that a dual core tegra 2(???) 7” tablet is Samsungs answer to the Asus 7” quad core rumored at CES. I mean you said it yourself; the specs are subpar compared to the 7+ so how is it going to compare on paper of head to head? Looking at the pricing of this new Samsung it’s hard to make a case for it comparing it to the Asus, which will be sub $300. If they really wanted to compete they could’ve lowered the 7+ to $299 and upgraded it to ICS. Now that’s a tablet that would sell.
I’m not grabbing the pitchfork over this one because I’m not overly concerned with ICS, I have a Galaxy Nexus and it’s really not that distant from HC. Besides, I learned a while ago not to buy stuff for what you want it to be but for what it is. With that said, I do believe the 7+ will see ICS but not before they’ve milked every dollar out of their latest release. I learned this first hand with Samsung.
Unless this new tablet is $199-$249, I don’t see the point. Why would they have two 7” tablets in the same price range with similar specs?
Until pricing and target markets are confirmed we should take a deep breath. I like to bang on Samsung but they aren't alone, a lot of manufacturers do this. Two weeks after the Transformer prime was realeased Asus announced a new "better" prime.
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You make good points and I get what you’re saying but I can’t believe that a dual core tegra 2(???) 7” tablet is Samsungs answer to the Asus 7” quad core rumored at CES. I mean you said it yourself; the specs are subpar compared to the 7+ so how is it going to compare on paper of head to head? Looking at the pricing of this new Samsung it’s hard to make a case for it comparing it to the Asus, which will be sub $300. If they really wanted to compete they could’ve lowered the 7+ to $299 and upgraded it to ICS. Now that’s a tablet that would sell.
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Keep in mind that even though Asus has announced the sub $300 price, there's no guarantee that they'll actually launch at that price - or even if they do, that it'll be available in quantity early enough to matter. Note, for example, the supply problems they've been having with the Transformer Prime.
Let's say it takes a quarter to go from rumor to finalized design, then another quarter to ramp up manufacturing. That's 6 months out.
In the meantime, Samsung has proven that they can 1) deliver their 7" tablets in quantity right now and 2) they can hit the $350 price point on their 7" tablet right now (which lends credence to the $300 or $250 price point if they ship with cheaper components). With B&N and Amazon selling Nook Tablets and Kindle Fires by the truckloads, there's ample opportunity for Samsung to get in at the $200-250 price point and get their share of profits before quad core 7" tablets are able to compete at that price point.
In other words, this isn't a device I'm interested in but that doesn't mean there aren't millions of potential Nook or Kindle customers who would be.
I'll wait to see their official pricing, unless this thing is under $300, which I'm not convinced it will be, I don't see the point. If the overseas pricing is any indication this will not be marketed as a budget tab.
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This is called
Market Cannibalization
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marketcannibilization.asp
not good
h2g2 said:
Keep in mind that even though Asus has announced the sub $300 price, there's no guarantee that they'll actually launch at that price - or even if they do, that it'll be available in quantity early enough to matter. Note, for example, the supply problems they've been having with the Transformer Prime.
Let's say it takes a quarter to go from rumor to finalized design, then another quarter to ramp up manufacturing. That's 6 months out.
In the meantime, Samsung has proven that they can 1) deliver their 7" tablets in quantity right now and 2) they can hit the $350 price point on their 7" tablet right now (which lends credence to the $300 or $250 price point if they ship with cheaper components). With B&N and Amazon selling Nook Tablets and Kindle Fires by the truckloads, there's ample opportunity for Samsung to get in at the $200-250 price point and get their share of profits before quad core 7" tablets are able to compete at that price point.
In other words, this isn't a device I'm interested in but that doesn't mean there aren't millions of potential Nook or Kindle customers who would be.
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You make a great point here that I had missed entirely. This may not be slated to fight the ASUS ME370T (the CES teased $250 Tegra 3 tablet,) this may be trying to claw back some of the low-end marketshare from the Kindle Fire and the Nook, which would make even more sense. On top of that, we have to remember that ASUS is attempting to enter that market as well. While the $250 ME370T is at best 2 quarters out, ASUS has officially announced the EeePad MeMo (ME171) which will have a 7-inch WXGA (1,280 x 800) IPS capacitive touchpanel, a 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm 8260 processor, a gigabyte of memory, 16GB / 32GB of storage, 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, a 1.2 megapixel front / 5 megapixel rear camera (with 1080p recording), an A-GPS sensor, gyroscope, proximity sensor and a micro-USB port. I have a feeling that the Galaxy Tab 2 is going to be competing with the similarly specced ME171. I'm going to wait until MWC, or a bit after to see what Samsung plans to unveil to fight the quad core war.
But that would only make sense if this tablet is priced in the nook and kindle price range. This doesn't appear to be the case. Samsung doesn't appear to be marketing this as a budget product, they really never do,
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I think we're going to have to wait until Samsung officially announces pricing in the US before we can decide on the nature of Samsung's decision to launch this product.
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I think we're going to have to wait until Samsung officially announces pricing in the US before we can decide on the nature of Samsung's decision to launch this product.
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Agreed.
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But that would only make sense if this tablet is priced in the nook and kindle price range. This doesn't appear to be the case. Samsung doesn't appear to be marketing this as a budget product, they really never do,
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Samsung unveils Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0), brings ICS on the cheap
We've got no exact price quote for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (7.0) just yet, but is should slide somewhere beneath the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, which is currently going for about €320. Sales should start in March.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unveils_galaxy_tab_2_brings_ics_on_the_cheap-news-3816.php
As to Samsung updating - Samsung is actually (usually) fairly good at updating non-carrier-branded devices in a timely fashion.
Carrier-branded devices (especially in North America) are a whole different story... Samsung doesn't seem to have the balls to stand up to carriers.
looks to me like the typical normal single core phone will now be a dual core in 2012. and why not use a cheap tegra 2?
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I think we're going to have to wait until Samsung officially announces pricing in the US before we can decide on the nature of Samsung's decision to launch this product.
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Don't forget carrier subsidies. T-Mobile carries the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus at $250 with contract, where I'm sure Huawei is eating Samsung's lunch with the $100 Springboard. A Tab2 at $200 or, if they can manage it, $150, would probably fair better.
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lrs421 said:
But that would only make sense if this tablet is priced in the nook and kindle price range. This doesn't appear to be the case. Samsung doesn't appear to be marketing this as a budget product, they really never do,
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No US price has been announced yet as far as I know. Don't let the Swedish prices throw you off - prices in different regions are dictated by many market forces beyond just currency exchange rates.
For example, right now, the Swedes can buy a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, 16GB WiFi only version, for about 320GBP from Amazon.co.uk (about 500USD) or the N version from Amazon.co.de for about 350 euros (about 460USD).
But for us yankees, Amazon US has the same device for only 350USD.
So even based on the prices in the OP, the Tab2 is coming in about ~50USD cheaper for the WiFi only version vs. the Tab 7 Plus.
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Don't forget carrier subsidies. T-Mobile carries the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus at $250 with contract, where I'm sure Huawei is eating Samsung's lunch with the $100 Springboard. A Tab2 at $200 or, if they can manage it, $150, would probably fair better.
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No US price has been announced yet as far as I know. Don't let the Swedish prices throw you off - prices in different regions are dictated by many market forces beyond just currency exchange rates.
For example, right now, the Swedes can buy a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, 16GB WiFi only version, for about 320GBP from Amazon.co.uk (about 500USD) or the N version from Amazon.co.de for about 350 euros (about 460USD).
But for us yankees, Amazon US has the same device for only 350USD.
So even based on the prices in the OP, the Tab2 is coming in about ~50USD cheaper for the WiFi only version vs. the Tab 7 Plus.
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Thanks for the breakdown. Going to be interesting.
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