Question.
My understanding if I'm on stock ROM and over the air Froyo comes from ATT I'll be able to upgrade preserving all settings/applications etc.
Is there such a possibility with current ROMs from community? That is upgrading OS in place while preserving both applications and settings?
Why would you want to go back to the broken crappy Samsung bull?
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he doesnt. thats the point. he wants a comunity rom with convienience of att ota updates. well as of right now i dont believe there is. it is usually recomended to flash back to stock. there were early cognition/sre roms that didn't wipe data but right now working with froyo leaks each rom my be built off a diferent build. add in the variable of mods tweeks and hacks and there is no telling what data on your phone will cause a problem. some devs offer update scripts for updating to a newer version of there own rom if you have the previous version but most roms at the moment wipe data.
You are better off upgrading from stock. Your playing with fire if you update a ROM OTA and the ROM you are using has some pretty heavy customizations, different kernel, or different modem.
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You are better off upgrading from stock. Your playing with fire if you update a ROM OTA and the ROM you are using has some pretty heavy customizations, different kernel, or different modem.
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Everybody misunderstood what I wanted to do. I want to upgrade to custom ROM and continue upgrading to the same type of ROM but upgrading in place while preserving all the settings. I don't want to have OTA ATT upgrades, I want upgrades in place for custom ROM. I just don't understand how ATT can do that with OTA upgrade and yes none of custom ROMs available here can not do the same thing.
artisticcheese said:
Everybody misunderstood what I wanted to do. I want to upgrade to custom ROM and continue upgrading to the same type of ROM but upgrading in place while preserving all the settings. I don't want to have OTA ATT upgrades, I want upgrades in place for custom ROM. I just don't understand how ATT can do that with OTA upgrade and yes none of custom ROMs available here can not do the same thing.
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its harder to do without SOURCE available for our particular device. what we have right now is messy and hacked together. if samsung would just release source for the captivate we would have this in place already. i seem to remember no-wipe updates available on 2.1 roms
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Is anyone working on making the recently released for Canadians Sammy Froyo ROMs rooted and repackaged (without bloatware and ready to flash from clockwork) available for AT&T Captivate owners?
already exists but im not sure if either is an official version. we have a telus t959 rom in perception 9.x
there are also a couple bell i9000m jk3 roms including earlier versions of perception. i dont think a jk4 rom has been cooked up but the original is there.
the latest telus rom should work with just a kernel or maybe even using the button remapper app in the market.
kernels are available in the dev section.
Perception/Cognition != Samsung Froyo.
I'd prefer to keep my phone as close to stock as possible, I'll take any Captivate-adapted Samsung ROM without bloatware, even if I'd have to re-root it.
So I'm guessing everyone is into customizing and nobody is looking into getting stock roms for Captivates?
stangri said:
Perception/Cognition != Samsung Froyo.
I'd prefer to keep my phone as close to stock as possible, I'll take any Captivate-adapted Samsung ROM without bloatware, even if I'd have to re-root it.
So I'm guessing everyone is into customizing and nobody is looking into getting stock roms for Captivates?
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I actually prefer the stock roms for the captivate. I used to flash new roms every couple of days, but really I found one thing or another I didn't like about them.
So here's to hoping our official froyo is not far off.
xiaoali said:
I actually prefer the stock roms for the captivate. I used to flash new roms every couple of days, but really I found one thing or another I didn't like about them.
So here's to hoping our official froyo is not far off.
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Same here.............last night I decided to flash the Froyo Leak from DG, root and sideload it. I forgot how great the battery life was on my phone with AT&T ROM's. Moderate use and I was at 62% with 16 hours use.
Now if I could just find the stock lock that will work for JI6 and some more minors tweaks.
Hi all be nice its my first time..
i would like to know how to tell if my phone is branded (tmobile) there is no web n walk icon etc. so might need gold card.
also if i was to root my dhd with the upcoming ota release of 2.3 is it worth doing for custom roms.
what is the difference between ota rom and custom. i ask this because if the custom roms are all good then should i ignore the stock rom updates. and just use rooted.
i do like the stock rom but ive done the update at xmas and need to roll back...
ive just rooted my first android tablet, which was a risk because i wasnt sure what machine it was.. but its all good.. so doing the root shouldnt be a problem.
Hi all, I have the Verizon GS3 (SCH-I535). When I first got it, I flashed it using this guide - I apparently installed a rom by invisiblek that stripped out a lot of the applications. Well, since I'm a first time smartphone user, I asked in that thread that since my G3 was now rooted if I should accept OTA updates in the future, to which one person told me no. Last night I got a notification that my phone wanted to update to Jelly Bean, so now I'm not sure what to do. I don't accept the update because it will brick my phone, right? And if that's the case, where do I download a rooted version of Jelly Bean for it? (I searched this forum but couldn't really find anything other than people's custom versions, like Slimbean). I'm really confused with all the different rom versions available for the different carriers and models, though I suspect I can only use one for Verizon. Side question too - "rooted" is a modified version of an official OS release, right? It's not a method of installing an OS, it's an actual modified version, right? And if I want Jelly Bean, I have to continue using these modified versions, right?
Hi all, I have the Verizon GS3 (SCH-I535). When I first got it, I flashed it using this guide - I apparently installed a rom by invisiblek that stripped out a lot of the applications. Well, since I'm a first time smartphone user, I asked in that thread that since my G3 was now rooted if I should accept OTA updates in the future, to which one person told me no. Last night I got a notification that my phone wanted to update to Jelly Bean, so now I'm not sure what to do. I don't accept the update because it will brick my phone, right?
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Jellybean has not been officially released in any capacity to the Verizon GSIII. The update you see is roughly 30mb at the most, it's an incremental update at best from when you purchased the phone. No, it will not brick your phone. If you have a custom recovery then the update will fail. If you do not have a custom recovery then the update will unroot and unlock the bootloader and install successfully. We're months away from a Verizon update to Jellybean.
And if that's the case, where do I download a rooted version of Jelly Bean for it? (I searched this forum but couldn't really find anything other than people's custom versions, like Slimbean). I'm really confused with all the different rom versions available for the different carriers and models, though I suspect I can only use one for Verizon.
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Download custom roms from the development section. Only flash roms for the Verizon GSIII aka d2vzw. These custom roms are people's different versions of the software available for our phone either officially or in jellybean's case unofficially.
Side question too - "rooted" is a modified version of an official OS release, right? It's not a method of installing an OS, it's an actual modified version, right? And if I want Jelly Bean, I have to continue using these modified versions, right?
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"Rooted" just means the user (you) have the ability to make changes to the system or root of the device that are not possible for stock non-rooted users. Just rooting your device means you gained administrator access to the system but nothing is changed until you install roms or other mods.
There is a truly great post in the development section by DroidStyle that details EVERYTHING you need to ask as a beginner. Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Jellybean has not been officially released in any capacity to the Verizon GSIII. The update you see is roughly 30mb at the most, it's an incremental update at best from when you purchased the phone. No, it will not brick your phone. If you have a custom recovery then the update will fail. If you do not have a custom recovery then the update will unroot and unlock the bootloader and install successfully. We're months away from a Verizon update to Jellybean.
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Ah, I see, I thought it was JB since there were reports of people in some countries getting the JB update today. Coincidental timing!
Anyways, I went through with the update but it failed.
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Download custom roms from the development section. Only flash roms for the Verizon GSIII aka d2vzw. These custom roms are people's different versions of the software available for our phone either officially or in jellybean's case unofficially.
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Ah I see, so if I were to download something that's JB, it's just someone's "fan" version of it? And the JB version that leaked to the international phones today won't work on our Verizon ones?
Thank you for your help!
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Ah, I see, I thought it was JB since there were reports of people in some countries getting the JB update today. Coincidental timing!
Anyways, I went through with the update but it failed.
Ah I see, so if I were to download something that's JB, it's just someone's "fan" version of it? And the JB version that leaked to the international phones today won't work on our Verizon ones?
Thank you for your help!
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My pleasure, no worries! I have to much respect for any dev who undertakes developing or porting roms to call it a fan version. It's best to refer to it as "customized" which is what they are: custom versions of what may or may not be available.
Nah, unless there is a leak for the Verizon Jellybean update consider any news you hear/see about GSIII updates as completely useless unless Verizon is mentioned. The international version has completely different hardware inside the phone so any roms meant for that device will not work in the USA GSIII. You also can't actively flash another carrier's roms for this phone, it's not suggested and has the potential to render your device unresponsive.
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I have a rooted SCH-I535 running stock 4.1.2. I am still getting OTA update notices every five minutes and it is time to move on to 4.3. What has has been your experience out there? My goals are:
1) to keep root, and
2) run 4.3 stock and have the option to play around with 4.4 ROMs.
Should I OTA to 4.3 then root? From what I have read, it may not be possible to flash custom ROM's this way. Can I get 4.3 ROMs and 4.4 ROMs another way? What is the best method from a rooted 4.1.2?
Thanks from an noob.
Ryan
uiryan said:
I have a rooted SCH-I535 running stock 4.1.2. I am still getting OTA update notices every five minutes and it is time to move on to 4.3. What has has been your experience out there? My goals are:
1) to keep root, and
2) run 4.3 stock and have the option to play around with 4.4 ROMs.
Should I OTA to 4.3 then root? From what I have read, it may not be possible to flash custom ROM's this way. Can I get 4.3 ROMs and 4.4 ROMs another way? What is the best method from a rooted 4.1.2?
Thanks from an noob.
Ryan
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If you take the OTA 4.3 update your boot loader will be locked and you will not be able to do anything that you said. If you have Titanium Pro use it to freeze "SDM 1.0" that will stop the update nags. If you want to go to 4. 3 you will find a rooted, stock 4.3 rom with an unlocked boot loader developed and posted by "Old&Slow" at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
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If you take the OTA 4.3 update your boot loader will be locked and you will not be able to do anything that you said. If you have Titanium Pro use it to freeze "SDM 1.0" that will stop the update nags. If you want to go to 4. 3 you will find a rooted, stock 4.3 rom with an unlocked boot loader developed and posted by "Old&Slow" at this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591895
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Huge thanks for the SDM freeze tip. That was my primary nuisance. It worked perfectly.I followed the link you provided. The ROM seems to be a bit buggy. Are a lot of you staying with 4.1.2? I like the idea of cloud printing and a few other updates, but I don't know if I want to risk my flash going off every time my phone rings. Can anyone recommend a good 4.4 ROM that can be flashed from my current state?
In general, the 4.4 ROM's are going to be a little more "buggy" when compared to a custom TW 4.3 ROM. From my understanding of this it's due to the devs being able to use the official OTA as a base and just customize it. I've ran both and prefer the custom TW 4.3 ROMs. To each their own however.
If you want to stay as close as OTA as possible, scrosler has posted a 4.3 ROM on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Android Development thread. It's titled, "[ROM][1/27/14] - Stock Rooted Knoxless - VRUCML1 - Android 4.3 - Stay Classy XDA!". I'd link you but don't have that ability yet on the forum.
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In general, the 4.4 ROM's are going to be a little more "buggy" when compared to a custom TW 4.3 ROM. From my understanding of this it's due to the devs being able to use the official OTA as a base and just customize it. I've ran both and prefer the custom TW 4.3 ROMs. To each their own however.
If you want to stay as close as OTA as possible, scrosler has posted a 4.3 ROM on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III Android Development thread. It's titled, "[ROM][1/27/14] - Stock Rooted Knoxless - VRUCML1 - Android 4.3 - Stay Classy XDA!". I'd link you but don't have that ability yet on the forum.
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Hey just you know 4.4 ROMS do not use the OTA as a base. The OTA is 4.3 first of all. 2nd its Touchwiz. 4.4 ROMs are AOSP only. Not Touchwiz. Now 4.4 ROMs just like any AOSP ROM use the Stock AOSP source code from Google as a Base (stock AOSP like on a Nexus) and then merge in device specific proprietary drivers after. They are buggy at first especially the modem/radio because we have to reverse engineer those proprietary drivers from Samsung to work on AOSP. Blame Samsung for not releasing source code for the modem.
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Hey just you know 4.4 ROMS do not use the OTA as a base. The OTA is 4.3 first of all. 2nd its Touchwiz. 4.4 ROMs are AOSP only. Not Touchwiz. Now 4.4 ROMs just like any AOSP ROM use the Stock AOSP source code from Google as a Base (stock AOSP like on a Nexus) and then merge in device specific proprietary drivers after. They are buggy at first especially the modem/radio because we have to reverse engineer those proprietary drivers from Samsung to work on AOSP. Blame Samsung for not releasing source code for the modem.
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That's what I meant. Sorry, wasn't clear in my post. I wasn't saying 4.4 ROMs use the OTA. I understand how they are built on AOSP. I was trying to say 4.3 ROMs have less problems (usually) because the devs have the OTAs to work with. For the most part anyway (I've read about the kernel problems on VZ 4.3). Thanks for clarifying.
Looking for instructions on how to go from rooted 4.1.2 to latest build. I found a zip to update the modem and have done so, but would like to update everything if possible without messing up root.
Android Version
4.1.2
Baseband
I535VRUCML1
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VRBMF1
Recovery
TWRP
I believe old and slow tw is a rooted 4.3 that wont lock ur bootloader. Found in Android development section
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Looking for instructions on how to go from rooted 4.1.2 to latest build. I found a zip to update the modem and have done so, but would like to update everything if possible without messing up root.
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4.1.2
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I535VRUCML1
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VRBMF1
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TWRP
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This is an easy upgrade (and one I did, going from a 4.1.2 ROM called BoneStock 3.4 to MOAR 7.1 and then to my current TW4.3 ROM, CleanROM 8.0). Its pretty similar to any other ROM you have flashed. You just need to make sure you flash a ML1 modem (which it appears you have already done), then flashing the new ROM.
There are a number of good TW 4.3 ROMs found on the Verizon Galaxy S III Android Development thread, and while I have experience with Mother of All ROMS aka MOAR (recently updated to v8.0) and CleanROM, but each phone is different so what works best on mine (or even what has the features you value most) may differ for you. Best to research each of the TW 4.3 ROMs by reading the specific developer threads and even asking questions once you have researched. The developers and the community is very helpful once you have done your own homework. Pay attention to what the developer instructs in the OP of each thread, as most of any question have about how to install are usually answered in the OP.
The good news... these ROMs are getting rock solid... pretty problem free and smooth. Good luck and enjoy the new ROM!
UPDATE: one suggestion... you may want to update whatever Recovery you are using. I do know going to a 4.4 ROM requires the latest TWRP (the recovery I favor) to 2.6.3.1 which I am pretty sure is the latest version. It may not be required for 4.3, but seems a good idea none the less. You will also note that your files will then be stored in a different place (I am not technical enough to explain this... so do some research on that). This will make a difference when you back up important files (pictures, messages etc) and also when you do the nandroids. And always, always make nandroids!