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I have spent about 3-4hrs trying to copy a file to my SD card with no avail.
I need some help.
I have in the past been able to explore both internal and external cards on my Captivate with debugging/mounting enabled with iMac OS 10.6.4 (rooted and unrooted).
This is no longer the case. The phone is now stock unrooted. At first, after connecting through usb, it would take several mins to see the internal drive, shortly after the external would appear. All for only a few seconds then OS X would give me an unexpected device removal error and drives are nowhere to be found. Now it does nothing though the thinks that it is connected. Doubletwist also recognized the device but would not be able to explore for media. Kies takes about 3 mins to connect via Parallels VM Win XP.
I have attempted the following:
Formatting both SD cards
Removing the external SD card
Many power cycles on both iMac and Captivate
All combinations of usb settings
Tried all usb ports (read in another thread).
Anyone else having issues or know a workaround for this?
Anim8ED_1 said:
I have spent about 3-4hrs trying to copy a file to my SD card with no avail.
I need some help.
I have in the past been able to explore both internal and external cards on my Captivate with debugging/mounting enabled with iMac OS 10.6.4 (rooted and unrooted).
This is no longer the case. The phone is now stock unrooted. At first, after connecting through usb, it would take several mins to see the internal drive, shortly after the external would appear. All for only a few seconds then OS X would give me an unexpected device removal error and drives are nowhere to be found. Now it does nothing though the thinks that it is connected. Doubletwist also recognized the device but would not be able to explore for media. Kies takes about 3 mins to connect via Parallels VM Win XP.
I have attempted the following:
Formatting both SD cards
Removing the external SD card
Many power cycles on both iMac and Captivate
All combinations of usb settings
Tried all usb ports (read in another thread).
Anyone else having issues or know a workaround for this?
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Assuming debugging is on it may be either because the cord you are using is bad OR the android OS formatted the SD card in a non-mac readable format. Or it is something else.
I had this problem yesterday and ended up just using BEX (Bluetooth File Exchange) to move files between my phone and iMac. Took a few minutes to get the two to talk to each other but once it was working the speeds were fine. Might want to give that a shot before you go buying a new SD card or USB cable.
Crazy... I had to connect it through a powered USB hub.
Works like a champ now.
there is a usb hookup.. so the question is raised, in my mind, can you hook up an external hard drive and thus rendering the 13gb a non issue (at least in the area of video/audio files).
anyone had experience with this?
I've been able to use my flash usb thumb drives without any problems, however when I plugged my WD 1Tb storage drive into the GTab, used ES File explorer to open usbdisk folder but did not see any files listed.
If you want to use a external usb hard drive for movies/files it has to be formated fat32 and it will work.
I have connected with 16gb, 32gb, 64gb and a 500gb Western Digital HD (usb powered). All work fine, but best to NOT remove the USB until the G is placed in sleep mode. There appears to be an unmounting issue that also blows up the app index. Apps can vanish and then not appear again until rebooting.
Archos 101 seems to have a similar issue, so maybe Froyo related.
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I have connected with 16gb, 32gb, 64gb and a 500gb Western Digital HD (usb powered). All work fine, but best to NOT remove the USB until the G is placed in sleep mode. There appears to be an unmounting issue that also blows up the app index. Apps can vanish and then not appear again until rebooting.
Archos 101 seems to have a similar issue, so maybe Froyo related.
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Yeah, I try to put mine to sleep before I pull out my thumb drive as well, but sometimes I forget and as soon as I yank it, the tablet reboots. Ugh!
I bought a 500gb Seagate the same night I got my tablet (been needing a portable hd for a while). It wouldn't work on either the tablet or my PS3. Definitely a format thing. As mentioned earlier, it needs to be formatted Fat32.
Just an FYI, formatting a big hd to Fat32 isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Windows 7 won't do Fat32 and 95 has a size limit (32 gb maybe?). HP has a program you get download from their site. It works on any make, not just their's. If anyone needs it, I still have it on my PC at home.
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I bought a 500gb Seagate the same night I got my tablet (been needing a portable hd for a while). It wouldn't work on either the tablet or my PS3. Definitely a format thing. As mentioned earlier, it needs to be formatted Fat32.
Just an FYI, formatting a big hd to Fat32 isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Windows 7 won't do Fat32 and 95 has a size limit (32 gb maybe?). HP has a program you get download from their site. It works on any make, not just their's. If anyone needs it, I still have it on my PC at home.
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What is the app called? Work with Vista? I tried formatting a 1gb HD to Fat32 via DOS commands, but failed.
As far as USB, main issue for removing while G is asleep (besides random reboots) is that removing while awake seems to be a main reason apps vanish until a reboot.
If I need to format a big, big hard drive to FAT32, I'll boot up a Linux LiveCD (usually Ubuntu or Knoppix) and use gParted to do it.
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What is the app called? Work with Vista? I tried formatting a 1gb HD to Fat32 via DOS commands, but failed.
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This is a different site but I think it is the same program. One of the comments said it didn't work on Vista business but YMMV. Worth a try.
http://hp-usb-disk-storage-format-tool.software.informer.com/
I went and checked my reformatted portable drive a few minutes ago and the tablet doesn't recognize it. It actually says there are no files in that directory. The drive is working on my pc and PS3. I put a small 4 gb stick in the tablet and it read it fine.
Any ideas?
It recognized my Ipod 120GB classic in disk mode. It also appears to be hot swappedable.
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It recognized my Ipod 120GB classic in disk mode. It also appears to be hot swappedable.
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It is hardware wise. Software wise, depending on ROM, it can crash your tablet. I try to put it to sleep before pulling my flash drive out. If not, sometimes it will go black and I'll see the boot animation.
I went to the link above looking for the Fat32 > 32 gig tool and it was not available.
If you need this tool, Google for "HP SP27608" and there are a few places where you can download it. HP didn't even have it on their FTP server -- don't know why they have quit offering it?!
Rev
Hi,
Sorry for the late post, but I just got around to trying a bunch of my USB flash drives, and Gtab doesn't see any of them ...
The LED on the drives flashes for a second, then goes off.
Do I have to mount it or something?
Jim
same problem here too. Is there a way to mount a USB drive without formatting? I do not want to loose my collection.
I've never had an issue with my Flash drives (VEGAn or TnT Lite). Are the drives formatted to FAT32?
I have had an issue with a 32GB USB flash drive not showing up on the gtab. I plugged it into my win7. Machine, moved files off, formatted fat, put files back on and it worked fine in the tab.
Another note, using vegan, I never sleep the device to get the drive out. Just wait a second and Yank it. Never been an issue for me.
I have noticed that my flash drives don't mount 100% of the time and sometimes require dis/reconnecting. Also I have a 1tb wd my passport. I formatted the whole drive fat32 and the gtab wouldn't see it. I then formatted just a partition of 120gb in fat32.....still no dice. I then reduced the partition to 32gb nd the gtab sees/reads/writes no problem.
I'm wondering how that other Guy got his 500gb to mount....
I'd like to know how folks have been able to get their external hard drives recognized as well. I have tried stock and tnt lite roms. Also tried several different hard disks all formated fat32. Even repartioned disks to 8GB and still no joy. Flash drives I own all work OK. Just can't use hard disk as yet. Even tried new rom image that came out today, no luck. Am I missing or not doing something?
The usb port does not supply enough power for external hard drives. I tried several and they did not show up in dmesg. When I used one with external power, the drive was seen and the partitions, but was not mounted.
The usb port does not supply enough power for external hard drives. I tried several and they did not show up in dmesg. When I used one with external power, the drive was seen and the partitions, but was not mounted.
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Thanks, but 2 out of 3 drives I tried use ext power. still no work.
Can anyone who has this working please post what drive they are using?
My first thread that I can call my own.
Question for you all. Is there an easier way to transfer files over the the GTAB then having to pop out the SD Card and put it into an adapter and then into the computer and then out of the computer, out of the adapter and back in the GTAB?
Because every time I mount the USB, it only mounts the "internal" SD Card. Is there some sort of way to get it to mount both the internal and external SD Card?
I hate messing with the external SD Card. All the "popping in and out" makes me nervous.
I even tried mounting the internal SD Card and then copying the movies/music/etc.. over to the external SD Card via a file manager... but that is DAMNNNNN slow.
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
That's exactly what I am worried about. LOL
I can just picture not paying 100% attention and snapping the card in half or, breaking the "locking" mechanism that holds the card in place.
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I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
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If you have ADB, can you do adb pull or push?
Jim
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
The techie/hacker solution to easy file transfer is to use the Rsync for Android app in the market store. Once you have it setup, (not the easiest thing to do) it works great for moving files automated from your gtab back to an rsync server (my linux box to the rescue). I even have a secondary profile to get it to reverse rsync a specified directory FROM my linux box to my gtab. Presto -- easy file transfer via wifi!!!
Also, another idea might be to use Dropbox?
Jim
P0RT3R said:
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
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I do the same thing. It's mighty slow, but it works.
roebeet - an idea that almost worked - maybe you know why?
roebeet said:
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
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Hi,
You all got me curious, so I just tried the following:
- Created a dir under /mnt/sdcard, /mnt/sdcard/mymnt
- Get temp root (z4root)
- Start terminal
- su
- mount -t vfat /dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/mymnt
At this point, I can access the sdcard2 by using /mnt/sdcard/mymnt or simply /sdcard/mymnt.
So, I disabled USB debugging, and I get the popup asking if I want to activate USB transfer (I'm on 3452, on earlier TNT firmware, it use to say enable USB storage).
I click the button to Activate, and then another window pops up, and I click Activate.
Then, the popup just stays there, with the spinning thing. It never enables USB transfer, and, on my PC, I see the removable drive, but when I click on it, it says it's not ready.
I've also tried umounting /mnt/sdcard2, thinking that it might be confused because of the two mounts to /dev/block/vold/179:17, but it still does the same thing.
So:
- It looks like I can mount the /dev/block/vold/179:17 (the external microSD card) under /mnt/sdcard, and
- When I do that mount, I can see the contents of the external microSD card in terminal under /mnt/sdcard/mymnt and under /sdcard/mymnt, but
- For some reason, turning off USB debugging/activatiing USB transfer fails.
Maybe someone can figure out why activating the USB transfer fails. If we can figure that out, then that would allow seeing the external microSD card via the PC USB interface.
Jim
I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...
Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2
My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)
I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...
I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
From what Ive seen or experienced, Cyanogen was the only rom that Had the Sd card and Sd card2 Thing fixed right (with exception of having to plug in the Power cord before mounting). Evrey other Rom seems to have problems. But Cyanogen has way too many other problems so I use Vegan since to me it seems the most stable :s
Yeah -- my phone is running a fork from Cyanogenmod 6...so the code is shared
TeutonicWolf said:
I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...
Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2
My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)
I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...
I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
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That's the problem... When the Gtab is plugged into the PC USB (while USB debug is disabled), only one new "drive" appears, corresponding to /sdcard on the Gtab. There is no 2nd drive appearing on the PC corresponding to /sdcard2 on the Gtab.
I've been looking at my Windows configuration, with the Gtab plugged in, and the one drive that appears shows up under "Portable Devices" branch in Device Manager. The properties show that it corresponds to "wpdfs.inf", and looking through that, it looks like a generic USB Mass Storage configuration, i.e., a USB drive.
I still think that something would need to be fixed on the Gtab end for the two drives to appear on the Windows end.
Jim
app fix
I have found a workaround for the issue with the installation of a single app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12299831&postcount=2
Depending on what you want to do, an FTP solution is also possible as discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869844
By using swiFTP, I am able to open a connection through a Win7 windows explorer, and I can drag-and-drop files to SDCARD2 (over a wireless connection). I put a 1Gig movie on the card and it took about 12 minutes.
Another option is to use Multi Mount SD-Card. This is link is for the lite version, there is also a paid version.
This app works outside the embedded SD Card Mounting scheme that comes with Froyo.
With this you dont have to press the "Mount USB" button that comes up in the notification bar when you attach the USB cable. Instead it will auto-mount the either the internal or the external SD Card when you plug in the cable.
(Having configured the setting of your choice before hand).
Unfortunately it can not mount both at the same time.
It works with my GTAB and I'm using VEGAn 5.1 Beta.
(Without the 5.1.1 Suppliment patch)
Folks are still struggling with this?
Use a USB flash drive, I do it all the time. Just a regular, boring, Windows FAT-formatted flash drive.
Wow it is amazing that this problem still exists.
I am a new owner of a Gtab and have had it for less than 2 days. Thank goodness for the many informative posts on this site, that have helped me make my new toy almost perfect.
I updated to 3588, installed cwm and titanbackup, vegan5.1.1 including the suppl patch and even learned how to tether it to my Samsung Captivate. The one thing that was annoying me was my device not seeing the 16 gb microsd card that I had inserted both in the gtab and on my pc.
After reading this thread, it looks like I am not going crazy, but it seems like my device is destined to not acknowledge this addtional storage in it's settings?
I really was hoping to use the external card for videos and my mp3 collection, so I am missing something or did I do something wrong to make this happen?
I would appreciate any comments or suggestions since this is the only thing that I need to get squared away before I install more apps(with the possibility and ever present threat of having to re-install something I may have already done)
I could not post this question in the dev section since I do not have enough posts to allow me to.
Thanks
Tina
Ok Guys,
I have just done the rom swap on my tablet. Everything went fine and thanks to the easy direction builder....worked great. I have a few questions because I am lost. Please help me understand what I have here and how to fix the broke things if they are actually broke.
I can't read a usb jump drive from the usb port
My computer does not see the tablet now that I have changed the rom
Now for my lost part. I am trying to figure out how to move things around on this unit but I can't seem to make the sdcard and sdcard2 make sence. When I dismount the sd card I loose stuff on both sdcard and sdcard2, but when I mount the card again I get back stuff on both. I am trying to figure out which is which. I have heard the sdcard2 in the external but it just does not figure in my head. I hit the home button on the file manager and it brings up sdcard and sdcard2 along with a lot of other stuff. When I click on sdcard it shows all the stuff on the mini sd I have installed and when I click on sdcard2 it shows DCIM & LOST.DIR. That seems to be the internal but it is listed as sdcard2...what gives. Someone please get me up to speed. Also I had some tunes on here and there was cover art that showed when it played and now it is gone......no idea as to where it went.
Sorry for the newb questions but I have never had a tablet like this and it is all new to me.
Thanks
Brad
redbullsushi,
First, if you want more help you will have to give more info. You don't say what rom you are using, etc. That would help.
Second.....when you look at the file manager:
/sdcard -- is the internal memory of you tablet.
/sdcard 2 -- is the name assigned to the miniSD card slot with the external miniSD.
/usbdisk -- is the USB key (large) port.
Don't know why they named them that way but might as well get used to it!
Now sort out what you can and get back here with more info on your G-Tablet and the software on it.
Rev
Yea sorry about that
I am running Vegan 5.1
And I had read about the strange names but mine seem to be backwards. Everything that I think is on my minisd is listed as sdcard.....when i dismount my sdcard in the system I don't see all my stuff anymore and the sdcard shows a blank folder. The sdcard2 still shows the DCIM and LOST.DIR. So it appears to me to be backwards.
I also got the usb storage to work by mounting it in clockwork but the usb connection to my computer is still not working.
Thanks
Vegan does not properly display the microsd storage in the System Settings. When you dismount the sdcard in Vegan from the System Settings, it will dismount the internal storage as this is option in the settings is not referring to the external micro sd. You don't need to be dismounting the sd card in your settings really.
While in Vegan, when you connect the USB to your computer, a notification should pop up in the tablet to enable USB storage, you need to make sure this is turned on, then your pc should see the tablet, and it will see your internal memory (/sdcard).
Turn off your tablet and remove your microsd card and plug it into a card reader, I'm guessing you'll see the DCIM folder.
Ok,
so got the usb working...mine did not offer the turn on option. i had to pull the toolbar down from the top to enable that. should i have usb debugging on?
also, my computer does not read sdhc cards so if anyone has some info on updating a machine running win7 to read that it would be helpful. i have tried both my on board reader and my usb reader and neither work. i assume they are out dated and i need to buy another reader?
that being said how do i see my minisd on the machine other than it is listed as sdcard not sdcard2. i know this because when i hooked to the usb and connected to my cpu i saw all of the things that are listed on sdcard2.....arg
so i must make the assumption that sdcard is my external and sdcard2 is my internal?.......is that right?
Thanks
Also,
I have tried to move some tunes from the sdcard to sdcard2(external/minisd) and it says file cant be moved. I also don't see anywhere that my minisd size is listed......I know this is all noob to you guys but wow this is frustrating. I appreciate the help very much.
Thanks
that being said how do i see my minisd on the machine other than it is listed as sdcard not sdcard2. i know this because when i hooked to the usb and connected to my cpu i saw all of the things that are listed on sdcard2.....arg
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You're not making much sense to me. Maybe I'm reading this wrong...you're asking how you can see your microsd on your pc (it's microsd, not minisd, minisd is a different format), but at the same time you do see it on your pc (which shouldn't be the case).
On your tablet, what do you see in the /sdcard folder? What do you see in the /sdcard2 folder? On your pc, what do you see when you've connected the tablet to your pc?
Sorry again.......i meant micro not mini. When i look at sdcard i see a bunch of files. When i look at sdcard2 i see the DCIM file. So when i connected to pc i took out microsd to make sure i knew what i was looking at. So sdcard is internal and sdcard2 is micro like you said. I am trying to get used to this.
My struggle now is the 2 avi apps dont play the avi i downloaded. I am also finding apps that wont install, and they seem to be the best of what i need ie: pdf ereader and avi video player. And i cant move files from sdcard to sdcard2.
And let me say dude thanks for your help and i hate you were the poor bast*rd that has tried to help. I appteciate it and if it woild be easier for you to chat on phone i will PM my cell.
Thanks
Get vitalplayer from the market. It plays videos well. My divx/xvid files play well using vitalplayer. It's also dependent on how your videos were encoded.
Hello, I'm new to the forums and I just have to say this place is amazing and what with all the dev's and ROM's available and a great community overall.
To get to the problem that I am having currently with the SGS4G. I recently got the device, and I haven't got a SD card so its just the device itself for now. Well I try to connect the device to my laptop which is Win 7 64 bit. It didn't recog. the device but a popup came up saying that it was installing the drivers, I let it finish and tried to go into the device but when i went into My Computer to open up the device which is USB Connected using the Mass Storage option, nothing came up. Just a G drive icon with no name, just the icon thats it.
I then realized I should have installed the drivers for it first, so I installed the drivers found here for the 64-bit option as my laptop is running 64-bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728929
I installed driver, but same thing happened as the above, nothing appeared when going into My Computer, just the icon and a pop up window that said "Please insert a disk into removable drive G".
Then I tried installing from the same source as above, but this time using the 32-bit link and the same thing happened as the above. I have tried to do the both with the USB debugging enable and disabled, then connected with USB to laptop, but no difference. The laptop see's the device when I go to Device and Printers, but the thing is the "My Computer" doesn't recognize the device or can't see it or the G drive doesn't see it.
I have tried unplugging the USB plug to the different USB ports on the laptop, but no good either. I have turned off the phone, plugged USB in and turned it back on but no good the laptop still doesn't recognize it. i have rebooted the laptop also and then tried everything above, but still no good.
If anyone can help out at all this would be greatly appreciated as I am going slightly insane with touching the device so much and trying to figure out a solution. I know it is not the Vibrant but the drivers from the link above is for Galaxy S devices it says. In case I didn't say so before, this device was rooted with Superuser evident in the Applications.
Oh please if anyone can help thank you so very much. Sorry for the first post being so long, but wanted to get as much detail as possible in here so I don't have to congest the thread later on with answering back and forth and wasting precious time.
One last thing, I rooted the device myself before on a Win XP machine, and everything was fine the XP machine recog. the device and everything, if that helps. But now I am on a laptop and received the device from my sister as she has got a new device.
Umm. Have you gone into the options on your phone where it asks you what usb connection type you want? The options it shows should be something like Kies, Mass storage, and two other options. I doub't mass storage would work for you, as you say you don't have an SD card. It might be the reason it's not showing up. Your computer is recognizing it if it's showing it when you click "my computer", but I think you have to have an SD card to actually open it up.
I'm not sure though, so don't take my word for it. Wait for a dev to chime in.
Not sure what you are trying to do but download airdriod from the market. No need for usb and I think it's faster than usb as far as transferring
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Using your phone in mass storage mode basically turns it into an sd card reader. Since you don't have an sd card in the phone windows is telling you to insert a disk (sd card) into the drive (your phone).
You're gonna need an sd card if you're gonna modify your phone in any significant way. Even a 2 gig sd card will be enough to flash new roms, etc.
Thankfully, microSD card prices have fallen significantly over the past year or two.
I've had good luck with the Transcend cards, either the Class 6 or Class 10 ones. Right now, you can buy a 16 GB Class 10 card through Amazon for about $15, delivered. They aren't a lot more than the 8 GB cards.
I haven't found a 32 GB card that performs as well as these, especially for smaller read/write sizes, which I believe to be important for day-to-day responsiveness. The 32 GB cards (Class 6 or Class 10) are still usually more than twice the price of the 16 GB cards.
I find a USB microSD reader useful as well. I've had good luck with the Elago Nano readers (in white or black), as well as the Transcend 9-in-1. I'm sure there are many others that work well. In my opinion, you don't need USB 3.0 for a flash reader as the bottleneck is likely the microSD card, not the USB.
So from general consensus, it seems like I need an SD card first before I can do anything. Well, I just ordered an SD card from Amazon and it will be here by the end of the week. What i was trying to do was try to get files to store into the devices internal memory which has space free. I thought there was a way to transfer some files from my laptop onto the devices internal memory. is there any way to do this besides having to use an actual SD card? Just wondering. If it helps I have Airdroid installed now.
buntobo said:
Is there any way to do this besides having to use an actual SD card?
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You can use adb (part of the Google-supplied Android SDK) to transfer files and execute commands on the device, but it is not a terribly user-friendly process if you aren't a command-line user.
ah. Thanks for all the help, I'm going to wait till the SD card arrives then guys.