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Its strange but noticed that my phones whit coloring looks a little more greenish than my.friends vibrant. And then i compared my captivate to my gfs and here whites r more white colored like my friend.
I don't get it, did a lot if the models come with different screens that display differently?
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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It has a Super AMOLED screen...
The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one...
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seems like someone needs a little more research
wait what no the whole entire galaxy s line has super amoled hmm its maybe the tint thats changed a little
A Super ALOMED screen is still AMOLED.
Anyway, just because it is the same model screen doesn't mean there are not variations in the mfg process that could cause slight differences. With the amount of screens that they are pushing out I am sure they are using equivelent components that may not be exactly the same.
Also depending on the allowed tollerances, 2 screen with slighly different temperature ratings could both still pass QA.
Personally my screen is very cold, whites tend to have a slight tint of blue to them. I prefer warmer displays but the SAMOLED is too nice to ignore even if the picture is cold.
It's possible that the screens are going through a rapid break-in process and the screens look different because they have been used different amounts.
Or it could just be differences within manufacturing tolerances.
Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
screen is fine, got mine on launch day,,,im sooooo loving this phone,i was using omnia2....
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Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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Only samsung makes the the screen for this phone.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
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AT&T says a lot of things.
The entire Galaxy S line up has Samsung's "Super AMOLED" screen.
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They may make the screen, but that doesn't mean they make all the materials used to manufacture the screen.
Different materials cause wider manufacturing tolerances. It's not different manufacturers favoring one color over another in this situation.
I really wish there could be a straight answer instead of speculating why our phones are cooler and warmer in color. I mean the screen still looks freakin great, but i wonder if there is a way to manipulate it through software.
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I agree. I would love it if phones finally started letting you adjust color temperature like computers.
My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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There is no such thing as real white when it comes to light (what your screen is putting out). I would prefer the screen to be warmer, but it is still white.
For more information look up color temperature.
The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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That's interesting,i hope someone is working on color temperature too.
Somebody else mentioned it but "manufacturer tolerance" is what causes this. It would be possible to make them all exactly the same, but the costs of the device would go up significantly. Usually the difference is so minute that most people never notice.
You see the same thing with mass produced digital projectors and tvs. If you were to take 10 new projectors of the same model and line them up side by side you would find not all the pictures were exactly the same. Due to manufacturer tolerance some may be slightly brighter or dimmer and colors may be a little more vibrant on another.
Blue Tint
Yes, Super Amoleds are coming in all forms of Tint. Some are lucky to get nice warm whites. Other people get green, blue, greenish blue, or even yellow tints.
maybe even pink tint like the amoled on zune hd
SAMSUNG GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!
A lot of reviews I have viewed on the MT4G say that even though it has a normal LCD (or SLCD -- depending on who you ask), the colors are fairly "rich". This may just be the affect SAMOLED has had on me (I am coming from a Vibrant) but I hardly find the colors on the MT4G to be "rich" -- especially the whites.
I have attached a screenshot of Google.com from my MT4G; Looking at Google.com on the MT4G, the white is more off-white than it is real white.
Anyone else seeing this? I am not expecting SAMOLED quality (obviously) and the colors are not "poor", but they are nothing special either.
EDIT: I just realized attaching a screenshot proves nothing since the problem is with how the LCD on MT4G shows it rather than the page itself. In other words, the screenshot will look just fine if viewed from a different device. So I have removed the screenshot.
I'd have to agree that it's the SAMOLED affecting your judgment.
No screen, other than another SAMOLED or the fictitious SAMOLED2, can really compete.
The SLCD(or regular LCD, depending on your source, like you said) screen in the MT4G is essentially the standard in smart phones these days. What sets the MT4G apart is the internals, which are far superior to anything on the market, imo. Second-generation 1GHZ Snapdragon processor and 768 RAM is what I'm referring to.
Personally, I found the screen on my second MT4G to be on par with the G2, which I also place above my Nexus One's AMOLED. So basically, again in my opinion, SAMOLED > G2/SLCD = MT4G/SLCD? > Nexus One/AMOLED > Everything else
Second generation processor and 768 MB of RAM is nice, although the GPU is a bit inferior to that of the Vibrant (just had to throw that out there).
That said, could it just be my particular phone? I compared Google.com on my MT4G and my laptop too and there is definitely a difference in the whites.
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Second generation processor and 768 MB of RAM is nice, although the GPU is a bit inferior to that of the Vibrant (just had to throw that out there).
That said, could it just be my particular phone? I compared Google.com on my MT4G and my laptop too and there is definitely a difference in the whites.
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Fully admit the Vibrant has a better GPU. There's tons of benchmarks to show it.
My first MT4G had a really seemed to have a washed out screen and I replaced it because of this fact, more or less.
When you had your screenshot attached, I pulled up Google.com and held it to the screen for comparison. But, like you noted when you removed it, it's being compressed through the interwebz then re-displayed on my desktop's screen so of course I saw a difference. That being said, I do think the screen on the MT4G is good. Is it better than other things currently on the market? Eh. Maybe. I think it's pretty standard, to be quite honest. It's the other internals, the build quality of the entire device itself, and the fact that I actually like SenseUI/mySense that won me over to keep the device.
The funny thing is I hate mySense/Sense -- I loved TouchWiz, haha. It really is TouchWiz/SAMOLED that really is holding me back from returning my Vibrant just yet... I am having hell of a time making up my mind.
For me it all comes down to TouchWiz + SAMOLED vs HSPA+ + FFC.
Decisions, decisions.
I whole-heartedly agree with you that the screen is nothing special. While I love my mytouch 4g, I admit that the screen is just average. There's been a lot of debate as whether the screen is slcd or not. I have to say it is a regular lcd after comparing it to the g2; while the mytouch 4g is brighter, the g2 is noticeably more saturated.
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A lot of reviews I have viewed on the MT4G say that even though it has a normal LCD (or SLCD -- depending on who you ask), the colors are fairly "rich". This may just be the affect SAMOLED has had on me (I am coming from a Vibrant) but I hardly find the colors on the MT4G to be "rich" -- especially the whites.
I have attached a screenshot of Google.com from my MT4G; Looking at Google.com on the MT4G, the white is more off-white than it is real white.
Anyone else seeing this? I am not expecting SAMOLED quality (obviously) and the colors are not "poor", but they are nothing special either.
EDIT: I just realized attaching a screenshot proves nothing since the problem is with how the LCD on MT4G shows it rather than the page itself. In other words, the screenshot will look just fine if viewed from a different device. So I have removed the screenshot.
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If I have the choice between a fantastic SAMOLED screen on a crappy samsung phone like the vibrant and a great device with a nice bright LCD like on the MT4G. I go for the MT4G. I absolutely don't care about SAMOLED. The screen is not a self purpose and people who are buying a phone solely because of a screen are crazy. I had the N1 and the AMOLED screen was too dark and never looked really sharp. I don't watch avatar on a phone (rediculous) and I don't play games (I am over 30;-) so if I have a bright and sharp screen I am satisfied.
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I'd have to agree that it's the SAMOLED affecting your judgment.
Personally, I found the screen on my second MT4G to be on par with the G2, which I also place above my Nexus One's AMOLED. So basically, again in my opinion, SAMOLED > G2/SLCD = MT4G/SLCD? > Nexus One/AMOLED > Everything else
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To me it was the opposit. Holding the Nexus One next to the MT4G I thought the nexus had better color...the 4G looked washed out. I like watching videos when traveling and my first instinct was to send the 4G back and stay with the Nexus...especially since I had the Desire Sense on it. But, the MT4G has larger internal memory, 4G, etc... I kept the 4G and my son gets the Nexus.
I may be in the minority, but I hated the SAMOLED on the Vibrant. The white balance on that device was just awful. Whites were light blue/green. Having much warmer whites that are much closer to the standard is much nicer on the mt4g. Additionally, text was so fuzzy compared to the sharp, much more readable text on the mt4g. Lastly, the colors, while certainly vivid and rich are so far from realistic, it just looked silly. No way would a good calibration specialist worth his weight in salt would arrive at those curves. It's sort of like looking at a TV on the floor of a big box retailer like Best Buy. Apparently, those settings move their TVs, and based on feedback here, people love that HDR-like cartoonish appearance. Their saturation and contrast levels are maxed out, and simply don't provide a realistic picture. The only real advantage of the Vibrant was its ability to show inky dark blacks. That was fantastic.
Agreed. I've been trying to figure out what I hated so much about the Vibrant screen, and you just nailed it for me. Personally, I think my MT4G screen is excellent. There is a point where it's simply "more than good enough", and who cares after that?
I can honestly say that, after having this phone for a few days, it is the first phone I've purchased that is worthy of replacing my Nexus One (and I've bought pretty much every Android device out there that can run on T-Mobile's network). To me, *that* means something big. I bought the Nexus on Jan. 5, and it has taken over eleven months for somebody to finally put something better out.
Love the MT4G!
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I may be in the minority, but I hated the SAMOLED on the Vibrant. The white balance on that device was just awful. Whites were light blue/green. Having much warmer whites that are much closer to the standard is much nicer on the mt4g. Additionally, text was so fuzzy compared to the sharp, much more readable text on the mt4g. Lastly, the colors, while certainly vivid and rich are so far from realistic, it just looked silly. No way would a good calibration specialist worth his weight in salt would arrive at those curves. It's sort of like looking at a TV on the floor of a big box retailer like Best Buy. Apparently, those settings move their TVs, and based on feedback here, people love that HDR-like cartoonish appearance. Their saturation and contrast levels are maxed out, and simply don't provide a realistic picture. The only real advantage of the Vibrant was its ability to show inky dark blacks. That was fantastic.
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I loved the SAMOLED screen on my Vibrant (now sold). However, that was the only thing I loved about that phone. I have to admit, when I got the MT4G and compared both phones side by side, I was slightly disappointed in what appeared to be lacking color saturation on the MT4G's display. However, after using the phone for a couple of days, not only did I begin to like the display and its extremely sharp resolution and text appearance, I forgot all about the SAMOLED.
This was probably aided by the fact that the MT4G is a phenomenally powerful device - in terms of performance, the Vibrant is not even in the same league.
I don't have a MT4G but I did play with one extensively in the store. At the time I had a Nexus 1 and Vibrant so I was a bit sad that the screen did look washed out compared to it, but when used by itself it was perfectly fine. And I do agree the colors look too oversaturated on the amoled screens as well, but the blacks are just so nice.
The thing that I do like about SLCD displays vs. amoled is the pixel layout allows for much sharper text, something I never got used to on amoled, I just dealed with it. For browsing and reading emails the MT4G screen or any SLCD for that matter is far superior than amoled. The iPhone 4's display... wow, nice sharp text. =(
So, I think there's one of two things going on with these phones. I just got my first mt4g on sunday. it came loaded with 2.2.1 and it came with a great quality screen. I had my buddy root it, and i got a little overzealous deleting bloatware and deleted "friendstream" which in turn caused the phone to never complete "syncing" and therefore i always had the syncing logo in the task bar. I took it back to the store and got a replacement....well this one came loaded with 2.2 and had a really washed out screen. I at first thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me....but it was so washed out, i couldn't take it any more....so I took it to another store (a busier store that would likely not be sitting on earlier builds). This one too came with 2.2.1 but also had a washed out screen...
So T-Mobile/HTC is clearly using differen't suppliers for these screens
As it is a completely noticable difference, not only in color/contrast ration, but viewing angles as well.
I will say this, I've owned a Nexus one, a Vibrant and a g2 for a few days. ,(If/When you get a "Good" Screen) I think of all the screens this one may have the best comprimise of sharpness/contrast/color. While the Nexus and Vibrant at first glance look amazing...the text is grainy (screen door effect) and the colors are unrealistic...so when viewing some picture or video it looks like cartoonish. That said, if you get a Washed out screen....it's probably the worst of all three.
I will be going back to the store in a few days to try and exchange and get a good one again.
That's my 2 pennies.
PS, I'd also like to add...that yes...I set all of them to "auto brightness" so that was not a factor.
Follow up to my previous post. There is NOTHING in 2.2.1 that improves the screen quality. There is an obvious case of more than one manufacturer making the LCD's in these phones. Because after replacement this one came with 2.2 and has a better screen. Also, We opened 5 phones at the store and all of them had washed out colors until i finally said "let's try a plum one instead of black" and that one had a good screen with higher contrast ratio. So now I'm on a Plum MT4G...and while it's not my first choice....it's pretty cool and leaps and bounds above white or red. And the Picture Quality; Better blacks, richer colors and better viewing angles than the previous two I had.
I'd encourage anyone dissatisfied to return to the T-Mobile store you purchased and ask them to open up several, before processing the exchange so that you can get a good one. The easiest way to tell, is turn the phone slightly off angle....if it gets washed out, it's the bad one. If the colors stay rich then it's a good one. The Nexus live wall paper is also very telling on a good one as the colors pop more and the grey scale is far more defined... I will try and take a photo of mine next to a washed out one so You guys can see the difference as well, soon!
Wow.. interesting stuff, btbuck1. I await your photos.
Quick question.. did you have a chance to compare the "newer" screen with the screen of a G2? I had the G2 for a few weeks and when the MT4G came out, I compared both phones at a tmobile store. The difference in the contrast and color was obvious. I wonder how the newer batch of MT4G screens compare now to the G2.
I used the G2 for about 4 days before going to the MT4G. But, I went back to the NEXUS ONE in between the two for about a week and a half so it wasn't an immediate comparison. But from what I can remember this "Good" MT4G is BETTER than the G2 in screen quality. But, the MT4G's with the poor screens couldn't stand up to the G2 at all, and certainly not to the N1.
But, I like the overall screen quality of the good MT4G's over all the phones I've had. Including the N1 & Vibrant.
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So, I think there's one of two things going on with these phones. I just got my first mt4g on sunday. it came loaded with 2.2.1 and it came with a great quality screen. I had my buddy root it, and i got a little overzealous deleting bloatware and deleted "friendstream" which in turn caused the phone to never complete "syncing" and therefore i always had the syncing logo in the task bar. I took it back to the store and got a replacement....well this one came loaded with 2.2 and had a really washed out screen. I at first thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me....but it was so washed out, i couldn't take it any more....so I took it to another store (a busier store that would likely not be sitting on earlier builds). This one too came with 2.2.1 but also had a washed out screen...
So T-Mobile/HTC is clearly using differen't suppliers for these screens
As it is a completely noticable difference, not only in color/contrast ration, but viewing angles as well.
I will say this, I've owned a Nexus one, a Vibrant and a g2 for a few days. ,(If/When you get a "Good" Screen) I think of all the screens this one may have the best comprimise of sharpness/contrast/color. While the Nexus and Vibrant at first glance look amazing...the text is grainy (screen door effect) and the colors are unrealistic...so when viewing some picture or video it looks like cartoonish. That said, if you get a Washed out screen....it's probably the worst of all three.
I will be going back to the store in a few days to try and exchange and get a good one again.
That's my 2 pennies.
PS, I'd also like to add...that yes...I set all of them to "auto brightness" so that was not a factor.
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I noticed the same thing regarding different displays on the MT4G. My first MT4G had a display that washed out quickly at angles. My 2nd MT4G's display does not wash out as much and generally looks better.
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I noticed the same thing regarding different displays on the MT4G. My first MT4G had a display that washed out quickly at angles. My 2nd MT4G's display does not wash out as much and generally looks better.
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Yes, I noticed before when my phone was on my desk and i got a text, i could read it while it was sitting there....then when i got the replacement phone i would have to pick the phone and face it toward me....now again with this "good screen" I can see the texts while it's sitting on the table.
I'm telling you folks, it's a night and day difference in Picture quality.
I think T-Mobile needed a ton of these for the holiday demand and HTC outsourced the screens from different manufacturers....and left some looking "Awesome!" and some looking " Meh? =/ "
My buddy tried to take pics at the store of his vs. one with the washed out screen, but it was difficult to tell with a phone camera, need a real digital camera to show it.
Maybe from here on in, for those of you claim there is a difference, please let us know where the "good" ones and "bad" ones were manufactured. Could be a pattern there. I believe this information can be found by the battery on the inside.
Mine does look good even contrast isn't "unlimited" because the screen is not AMOLED.
I was going to get the thunderbolt, but then I came across the slashgear review that said it has a regular tft display. So then I checked HTC's website and it says TFT.
Hmm...
Whatever it is, it looks pretty nice.
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Looks pretty bad in that pic. Looks like I won't be getting it now.
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Looks pretty bad in that pic. Looks like I won't be getting it now.
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Yeah, that pic looks awful. Good thing mine doesn't look anything like that. Might want to look at one in person before you judge it.
Coming from the Fascinate, the screen is the worst part of the Thunderbolt. We'll see if I used to it after a week or two.
I also used to have a fascinate.
Screen is a huge factor in buying a phone since, you know, that's the thing we look at on the phone lol.
How many of you are gonna view your screen from an angle?
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Looks pretty bad in that pic. Looks like I won't be getting it now.
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You sound like the baby in the picture.
Are you guys seriously getting mad??? I'm trying to figure out information about the screen because I wanted this phone, but the screen is a HUGE factor in my decision. I can't check it out in person until after work. Anyone have any pics of the screen at a direct angle?
The screen is TFT and it is not a very good one in my opinion. I don't care much about the viewing angles - for me the colors are pretty poor and it is not very sharp. The lack of sharpness is mostly due to blowing up the resolution on a larger screen but the colors on this thing are pretty bad when compared to my amoled Incredible and iPhone 4. Not crisp, not very good. The screen is very nice for video (due to the size) but otherwise completely unremarkable when compared with devices a year older.
Combined with the battery life and some serious Sense bugs, probably sending this one back. My coworker already sent his back today.
I guess I am disappointed with all the buildup of this "flagship" phone. Seems they could have presented a tighter package. I really wanted to like this phone - oh well.
Its been reported that the screen is SLCD its better than my EVOs screen. I personally dont like amoled screens, there too saterated imo. HTC is moving from amoled screens to SLCD LIKE the bolt.
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Whatever the screen is its amazing. Vibrant and sharp.
I went from an iPhone 4 to Fascinate and now Thunderbolt out of those 3 the iphone had the best display and the fascinate had by far the worst i hated the screen the colors just looked fake and made everything look cartoony. I absolutely LOVE the screen on the thunderbolt SLCD ftw!
I've got a Dinc and aDX (both rooted FWIW), and a Xoom. Picked up a Thunderbolt over the past weekend. Love the screen. Much better than the DX, and I personally don't care for the saturation of the Dinc AMOLED. T-bolt screen is on par with the Xoom which is gorgeous.
The screen owns the crap out of my Droid, which was confirmed to possess a normal TFT screen.
The T-Bolt definitely has a Super TFT LCD. I'm not sure a Super AMOLED would be necessarily better at this point, except for battery savings on 4G.
honestly this phone looks much better than my eris, and my incredible. and most definitely better than my g-tablet lol.
there is no angle where the screen loses color and it is extremely crisp looks much better than the dx when held right next to it. It just seems sharper. same res though.
I was actually pleasantly surprised by the quality of the Bolt screen. It's bright, vibrant and colors are very nice. I came from a Nexus One AMOLED screen.
Screen on TBolt rocks, at least on mine it does.
how are you gonna judge a phones display without seeing one in person? nerd much?
this screen looks great to me...but I couldn't care less whether you get the phone or not..
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Coming from the Fascinate, the screen is the worst part of the Thunderbolt. We'll see if I used to it after a week or two.
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I agree. The screen is the biggest disappointment to me. It's not bad, it's just not up to par, in my taste, with either the iPhone 4 or the Nexus S and Galaxy S SAMOLED screens. It's the least satisfying thing about the phone for me, but not sure it's a deal breaker. I'd prefer a SAMOLED Thunderbolt, though!
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... but the screen is a HUGE factor in my decision. I can't check it out in person until after work. Anyone have any pics of the screen at a direct angle?
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The screen should be a huge factor in your decision, but no picture on the internet is going to give you an idea of how it looks in person...
re: Nexus One comments, it's a first generation AMOLED (no S) device with a pretty lousy implementation of it on top of everything else. Totally unusable in sunlight, totally oversaturated, totally wonky. Not sure about DINCs or anything else.
I've have every model of iPhone, including the iPhone 4, a Nexus S, Nexus 1, Galaxy S i9000, Galaxy S Vibrant, Thunderbolt, and used to have an EVO 4G. The iPhone 4's display is pretty amazing, but I think I still prefer the SAMOLEDs.
SAMOLEDs are a tough act to beat in my opinion, but only because I like INKY blacks...total lack of color/light blacks, which only the SAMOLED/AMOLED displays can deliver. Compare a Thunderbolt to a Nexus S in a darkened room with a black screen on the phone and the Nexus S will emit no light...the Thunderbolt will emit a glowing black-ish backlit light. Not important to all, but something I really notice. As said above, not a deal breaker to me, but I'll jump ship to the first decent LTE phone to come along with a SAMOLED screen.
I do not have any problem with my display. Yeah, AMOLED and SAMOLED displays will have better contrast and more vibrant colors... but I do not have any issue with my TB display.
I came from an AMOLED Nexus One.
Well we know the DHD has LCD, but AT&T site says the inspire has SLCD... I compared mine to two MT4G, one has LCD, the other SLCD... and apparently my inspire behaves (saturation/view-angle) somewhat in between, leaning towards the LCD.
So how about yours? you probably get a LCD if a sharp view angel gives you wash out colors.
So AT&T is giving out misleading info then..
ripped a link about the MT4G good vs bad screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
not really sure how accurate my judgement is.....but i can look at mine almost 180 degrees, basically until i cant see the screen anymore, and colors still look great. Doesn't seem to be washed out for me, but again, i have never compared a SLCD to an LCD.
Just as a side note....I have been MORE than impressed with this screen, even coming from a s-amoled on the Captivate. I was really thinking i was going to miss the "pop" from the captivate screen, but the colors on the Inspire have been more than pleasing to my eye. Although, the black levels on the LCD suck compared to the OLED....
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not really sure how accurate my judgement is.....but i can look at mine almost 180 degrees, basically until i cant see the screen anymore, and colors still look great. Doesn't seem to be washed out for me, but again, i have never compared a SLCD to an LCD.
Just as a side note....I have been MORE than impressed with this screen, even coming from a s-amoled on the Captivate. I was really thinking i was going to miss the "pop" from the captivate screen, but the colors on the Inspire have been more than pleasing to my eye. Although, the black levels on the LCD suck compared to the OLED....
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Leaning towards SLCD over here as well.
Searching in the forum and saw someone saying the DHD in India are SLCD. Does anyone know how to determine it on the software side?
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Well we know the DHD has LCD, but AT&T site says the inspire has SLCD... I compared mine to two MT4G, one has LCD, the other SLCD... and apparently my inspire behaves (saturation/view-angle) somewhat in between, leaning towards the LCD.
So how about yours? you probably get a LCD if a sharp view angel gives you wash out colors.
So AT&T is giving out misleading info then..
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I have an HD2, which has a common LCD...with the washed out view angles and all...and my Inspire doesn't exhibit the angle washout as my HD2. The colors are a bit more intense also.
I'm with everyone else here. I can look at mine in a complete 180 degree arc and lose very little color and detail from the most extreme angles.
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I'm with everyone else here. I can look at mine in a complete 180 degree arc and lose very little color and detail from the most extreme angles.
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ditto, i'm leaning toward SLCD
Colors are not washed out practically at all, viewing from any angle up until I can no longer see the screen. I'm wagering SLCD.
I came from Vibrant, so maybe I expected a bit too much for the inspire then..
but I compared mine to a Desire Z's SLCD and its really different.
The colors when viewing at 45 degree on the 1-2 O'clock position of the phone is extremely washed out and showed a green tint.
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I came from Vibrant, so maybe I expected a bit too much for the inspire then..
but I compared mine to a Desire Z's SLCD and its really different.
The colors when viewing at 45 degree on the 1-2 O'clock position of the phone is extremely washed out and showed a green tint.
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Might just be your device, brother. I came from a Captivate (SAMOLED) and it's WP7 cousin, the Focus, and I see little to no difference in off angle viewing from either of those devices. The colors stay true, but obviously the luminance does decrease the further you move from 0 degrees.
Also, I'm using a crappy, AT&T store, anti-glare screen protector till my nice ones show up tomorrow. That further degrades the quality of the screen, so the true nature of the screen is better than I've even been describing it.
. This is surely sad.. did anyone try the Android emulator method (dmseg) in the my4g link and see what type of panel it is?
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. This is surely sad.. did anyone try the Android emulator method (dmseg) in the my4g link and see what type of panel it is?
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I looked at it, but this handset isn't a mytouch4g. That command shows a number designation that we don't have a key to for this device. They may very well be the same, but we don't know for sure. My number would designate that I had the "good screen" but I have yet to see any reply that would cause me to think that there were any bad screens, other than you. If you are unhappy with your device, take it back and see if the sales rep wouldn't mind you running the hardware check for the screen. However, if its as noticable as you say, you should be able to tell without it.
I tested my inspire against the atrix im currently using, and the qHD screen has significantly more color washout and bleed than the inspires panel. A 45 degree angle of the atrix tints everything a yellowish haze.
mine has a type 1 panel.. so I guess I'm filing a return.
Ok...so, several sites, all have different info. PC Mag, whom I trust dearly, say it's on LCD... Most other say its SLCD.. So..I have to call HTC tonight after work anyways... I'll ask them, and if I can get them to verify which one, I'll report back..
Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
Is this a joke?
I've been with the S3 since it was released and always liked the super vibrant and colour saturated screen. Been on my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I actually prefer it more. The colours aren't as saturated but the screen looks more.. realistic. I find the S3 screen to be too distracting and irritating now.
That's my opinion.
I don't know about the "vibrancy" of my Nexus 5's screen, but it is worlds ahead of my Galaxy Nexus' screen. Everything is crystal clear, and looking at them both at the same time makes my Gnex look awful.
I was in a similar boat coming from my galaxy note 2. I've always adored AMOLED displays.
To my surprise though I really like the nexus 5 screen. I like it better than my note 2. I'm really impressed.
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Surfy89 said:
I've been with the S3 since it was released and always liked the super vibrant and colour saturated screen. Been on my Nexus 5 for a few days now and I actually prefer it more. The colours aren't as saturated but the screen looks more.. realistic. I find the S3 screen to be too distracting and irritating now.
That's my opinion.
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I have never been a big fan of AMOLED. I have had it on past phones, like you I had a Galaxy S3 as my immediate prior phone. I honestly hated the display because I couldn't see anything in direct sunlight outside. It was great for indoor viewing at night, and as a clock on my night stand but that was it. I much much more prefer the screen on the Nexus 5.
AMOLED is terrible. IPS is much better
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I absolutely love amoled screens... that being said I also love the Nexus 5 screen!
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Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
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I'm still having some reservations.
I'm testing both devices for a week.
I am coming from a Note 2 as well. My first reaction to the N5 was, wow this screen looks great. Crystal clear and colors look better to me. This is another thing though that will be entirely up to the user. Some with see things different than others.
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AMOLED is terrible. IPS is much better
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It's a cheap IPS, which is no better than S-PVA.
Just compare Nexus 5 colors to iphone or to IPS monitors from Apple or NEC.
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It's a cheap IPS, which is no better than S-PVA.
Just compare Nexus 5 colors to iphone or to IPS monitors from Apple or NEC.
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Pretty sure the Nexus 5 is a cheap phone, at $350 unlocked.
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Pretty sure the Nexus 5 is a cheap phone, at $350 unlocked.
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Define "cheap".
The manufacturing costs of iphone is cheap too.
http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/Ne...-Manufacturing-Cost-IHS-Teardown-Reveals.aspx
But apple likes to earn a big margin on them. Now, Google as Amazon might follow a different strategy here.
ptscon said:
Any other S4 owners having reservations about going back to LCD screen after enjoying AMOLED?
I know S4 colors are not perfectly accurate but I for one have always enjoyed such vibrant display on my phone. I'm all for having accurately calibrated TV but on a phone I prefer the richness AMOLED provides. When I tried switching the screen profile to "Movie", to see how it would be, I always got a "blah" feeling when I went back to my home screen, something was missing.
So, my Nexus is "out for delivery" and I'm trying to convince myself to open the box when it gets here. I like everything else about it.
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Keep your locked bootloader s4 and pretty display. And next time search before posting. There are many other threads discussing the same thing.
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Keep your locked bootloader s4 and pretty display. And next time search before posting. There are many other threads discussing the same thing.
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S4 GE's bootloader is unlocked. what's the problem ?
No second thoughts at all. Love ips screens. S4 screen you can see it is something glued under something else while here you feel it is one. Also amoled screen hurts my eyes. As for the washed out colors no worries at all. PA has the cure
I'm really missing AMOLED if i'm being honest. There is no Black as such on the N5 screen, just shades of grey. IPS glow sucks! What i want on this phone is to eliminate all traces of the Holo dark theme which doesn't work at all well on this screen. If everything was light coloured it wouldn't be an issue.
I've never actually owned a phone with an AMOLED screen but I have used them a bit and I personally prefer IPS, the HTC One has the nicest displays yet I hope the N5 screen is at least comparable.
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I am coming from a Note 2 as well. My first reaction to the N5 was, wow this screen looks great. Crystal clear and colors look better to me. This is another thing though that will be entirely up to the user. Some with see things different than others.
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This was my experience too coming from a Note 2. I love the display.
I've never owned a phone with amoled display, but looked at Samsung note 3, my initial thoughts were that the colours were very vibrant, after some time however I have concluded that the colours are over saturated.
I realise it's a matter of personal choice which you prefer, my preference is IPS lcd .
With regards to the claimed superiority of amoled display ability to show truer black, I am typing this on my nexus 5 and the black display is almost indistinguishable from black bevel at the top of the screen.
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