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Hello people of xda-developers
I got my first Android phone, which is an LG G2X 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
I have been searching around and found out you can root your phone which is kinda like jailbreaking an iphone.
I still don't completely understand how to do it though. I've seen a couple of threads that tell you how to root your Android device with something called SuperOneClick, but from what I understand, this doesn't work with the new Gingerbread.
Now from what I understand, you first have to root your phone, then flash it with CWM Recovery with NVFlash right?
Could someone please lead me to the threads that explain how to root a G2X with Gingerbread, and how to flash it with CWM Recovery.
hope this helps
Joseg1320 said:
Hello people of xda-developers
I got my first Android phone, which is an LG G2X 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
I have been searching around and found out you can root your phone which is kinda like jailbreaking an iphone.
I still don't completely understand how to do it though. I've seen a couple of threads that tell you how to root your Android device with something called SuperOneClick, but from what I understand, this doesn't work with the new Gingerbread.
Now from what I understand, you first have to root your phone, then flash it with CWM Recovery with NVFlash right?
Could someone please lead me to the threads that explain how to root a G2X with Gingerbread, and how to flash it with CWM Recovery.
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although someone did post a way to root the gingerbread rom its pretty complicated for a new user.
the oneclick methods of rooting for the 2.3.3 dont exist.
if you want to be able to flash custom roms(which you do) than follow this link and it will walk you through what to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
that will get you where you need to be. but it will not root the rom you are currently using youll need to flash a custom rom for that. in the development section youll see several roms either from source. or that are based on the 2.3.3 release and xboarders is the 2.3.3 with root only thats the only change.
good luck.
Okay I flashed CWM via NVFlash. Now I have a question. How can I backup my apps before flashing a rom. I tried to use Titanium Backup, but that doesn't work because my phone isn't rooted. If I boot into Recovery, do I have to wipe data before I install for ex. CM7 onto my phone? But wouldn't wiping the data delete all of my apps?
Joseg1320 said:
Okay I flashed CWM via NVFlash. Now I have a question. How can I backup my apps before flashing a rom. I tried to use Titanium Backup, but that doesn't work because my phone isn't rooted. If I boot into Recovery, do I have to wipe data before I install for ex. CM7 onto my phone? But wouldn't wiping the data delete all of my apps?
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Yes wipe everything. Here's a step-by-step method of flashing new roms:
1. Wipe Data/Factory
2. Wipe Cache
3. Wipe Dalvik
4. Wipe Battery stats - HINT. Always flash new ROMs with 100% battery to get the best battery life
5. Format/system
6. install zip from SD card
7. Fix permissions
8. Reboot and Enjoy!
All your paid apps will come again when you login to your Google account and set up your market. In Market, just press the menu button and hit My Apps and you should be able to re-install all your paid apps.
Joseg1320 said:
Okay I flashed CWM via NVFlash. Now I have a question. How can I backup my apps before flashing a rom. I tried to use Titanium Backup, but that doesn't work because my phone isn't rooted. If I boot into Recovery, do I have to wipe data before I install for ex. CM7 onto my phone? But wouldn't wiping the data delete all of my apps?
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If you have Clockworkmod successfully flashed then you CAN now root without flashing another rom. Download the zip (theres one that roots, and one that unroots should you ever want that) file from the OP of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214. Save it to your sdcard, boot into recovery and select to install zip from sdcard. Navigate to the zip file and install/flash it. Reboot and you have rooted your system with all your files and apps in place.
phburks said:
If you have Clockworkmod successfully flashed then you CAN now root without flashing another rom. Download the zip (theres one that roots, and one that unroots should you ever want that) file from the OP of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214. Save it to your sdcard, boot into recovery and select to install zip from sdcard. Navigate to the zip file and install/flash it. Reboot and you have rooted your system with all your files and apps in place.
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I did this. My phone is now rooted, but I ran into a problem. I tried flashing CM7 through ROM manager, I cleared cache and Dalvik and then flashed the CM7 Rom, but when I go to reboot, the phone freezes at the "T-Mobile G2X with Google" animation.
Joseg1320 said:
I did this. My phone is now rooted, but I ran into a problem. I tried flashing CM7 through ROM manager, I cleared cache and everything and then flashed the CM7 Rom, but when I go to reboot, the phone freezes at the "T-Mobile G2X with Google" animation.
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Try it without rom manager. Power your phone off and then boot into recovery by holding power + volume down until you see the recovery splash screen. Do a full wipe and then flash cm7 again. After successfully installing cm7, or any rom for that matter, your first reboot may take several minutes while it builds the dalvik cache. Subsequent reboots will be MUCH faster.
phburks said:
Try it without rom manager. Power your phone off and then boot into recovery by holding power + volume down until you see the recovery splash screen. Do a full wipe and then flash cm7 again. After successfully installing cm7, or any rom for that matter, your first reboot may take several minutes while it builds the dalvik cache. Subsequent reboots will be MUCH faster.
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Ah okay, I didn't know the first reboot takes longer. I'll give it a try from CWM Recovery.
Just wondering, which ROM is the most stable/popular?
Joseg1320 said:
Ah okay, I didn't know the first reboot takes longer. I'll give it a try from CWM Recovery.
Just wondering, which ROM is the most stable/popular?
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Popular? Its really about personal preference but I'd say cm7, xboarders stock tweaked, miui, weapon, and eaglesblood are right up there at the top. If you want a more stock experience go with xboarders. Cm7 is fairly stock looking with a lot of useful features added. Miui is the opposite end of the spectrum, a very different kind of android indeed lol.
As for stable, any of the ones I mentioned are good, and probably others as well. Cm7 nightly builds are certainly useful enough to be a daily driver, but they have a few issues, but what else would you expect from nightly builds. They are development versions, not final releases.
Try a few and find what you like. Just make sure to keep a good working backup in case you fubar your phone lol.
Alright I got CM7 working and flashed google apps.
Now I have another little problem Before I flashed CM7, I used Titanium Backup to backup some of my game apps. After I flashed CM7, I go to Titanium Backup and none of my apps are there to restore. I connected my phone to my computer and I opened the Titanium Backup folder and the zip files and the PROPERTIES files are all there. How come I'm not able to restore my apps using Titanium Backup if all of the files are there?
I have the .apk files for the apps and I can just install them again, but I'm going to lose my save data.
Joseg1320 said:
Alright I got CM7 working and flashed google apps.
Now I have another little problem Before I flashed CM7, I used Titanium Backup to backup some of my game apps. After I flashed CM7, I go to Titanium Backup and none of my apps are there to restore. I connected my phone to my computer and I opened the Titanium Backup folder and the zip files and the PROPERTIES files are all there. How come I'm not able to restore my apps using Titanium Backup if all of the files are there?
I have the .apk files for the apps and I can just install them again, but I'm going to lose my save data.
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I have never had success with Titanium Backup. Just reinstall your apks clean and forget about the old data. A clean install is better. Think about doing a new Windows installation. Do you want to import the crap that messed up your Windows in the first place? Android is the same way. Better to not import your old data and start new.
I have never had success with Titanium Backup. Just reinstall your apks clean and forget about the old data. A clean install is better. Think about doing a new Windows installation. Do you want to import the crap that messed up your Windows in the first place? Android is the same way. Better to not import your old data and start new.
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Wait no! Don't do that you can salvage ur save data.
What happens when you install CM7 is that the sdcard directory now points to your external sd card rather then the internal that comes with the phone.
the internal is now at /mnt/emmc
Get root explorer and you will see what I'm talking about.
Once you have root explorer just copy the titanium backup folder from /mnt/emmc to /sdcard and you should be able to restore all user apps with data... however DO NOT restore system data from stock to CM7... big headaches.
Hope this helps!
thanasisc4 said:
Wait no! Don't do that you can salvage ur save data.
What happens when you install CM7 is that the sdcard directory now points to your external sd card rather then the internal that comes with the phone.
the internal is now at /mnt/emmc
Get root explorer and you will see what I'm talking about.
Once you have root explorer just copy the titanium backup folder from /mnt/emmc to /sdcard and you should be able to restore all user apps with data... however DO NOT restore system data from stock to CM7... big headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Too late, lol.
I deleted the Titanum Backup folder from my phone.
Oh well, nothing GameCIH can't solve.
Titanium backup goes to you internal sdcard. so you connect to you computer find the folder named TitaniumBackup or something like that, then move that folder to your sd card. Its just a matter of keeping same folder structure that titanium looks for (ie the correct folder name), and puttin the files in there, on the correct external sd card
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oh also most of the time replacing the app doesn't work, just replace the data and it will work (unless of course you are actually trying to change the app in that case good luck).
What software can be used to do a full image backup? And would you be able to run the backup if the device does not boot? Can you write to the internal storage from antoher connected device?
thebrenda said:
What software can be used to do a full image backup? And would you be able to run the backup if the device does not boot? Can you write to the internal storage from antoher connected device?
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If you unlock and root your Xoom you will install a custom ClockworkMod recovery (two custom versions available for the Xoom made by developers here in the xda Xoom forum) and with that you will be able to make a nandroid backup of your system image, to either the external micro sdcard (solarnz v3.2.0.0 R4c Recovery) or to a choice of media, I think (Rogue Recovery using v4.).
You would be able to restore from your saved nandroid by booting into the recovery menu (volume up + power to get to the red dual core logo, wait 3 seconds, then volume down, and then volume up and into your recovery menu).
The PC sees the Xoom as an MTP device. It doesn't act as a mass storage device (at this time) so while there are ways get info into it, it's not the same as actually writing to the internal storage.
is there any commercially available backup software?
thebrenda said:
is there any commercially available backup software?
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No only the free recoveries. You can also just download the images from my sticky, its stock images from Motorola.
i want to install apps and customize my tablet. then take a back.
i run nightly backup on my home system and monthly on my phone. they have saved my ass a couple of times. open software, click restore, go watch TV, and I am back.
thebrenda said:
i want to install apps and customize my tablet. then take a back.
i run nightly backup on my home system and monthly on my phone. they have saved my ass a couple of times. open software, click restore, go watch TV, and I am back.
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To back up apps and data, whatever you choose you can use Titanium Backup on the schedule of your choice. For backing up system image its a nandroid tthru CWM. As a programmer you might figure out a way to schedule auto backups...
okantomi said:
If you unlock and root your Xoom you will install a custom ClockworkMod recovery (two custom versions available for the Xoom made by developers here in the xda Xoom forum) and with that you will be able to make a nandroid backup of your system image, to either the external micro sdcard (solarnz v3.2.0.0 R4c Recovery) or to a choice of media, I think (Rogue Recovery using v4.).
You would be able to restore from your saved nandroid by booting into the recovery menu (volume up + power to get to the red dual core logo, wait 3 seconds, then volume down, and then volume up and into your recovery menu).
The PC sees the Xoom as an MTP device. It doesn't act as a mass storage device (at this time) so while there are ways get info into it, it's not the same as actually writing to the internal storage.
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Using the method mentioned above I use the rogue recovery to make the nandroid back up and if you have a microsd you can tell the recovery to save the backup to the sdcard for external backups.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
thebrenda said:
i want to install apps and customize my tablet. then take a back.
i run nightly backup on my home system and monthly on my phone. they have saved my ass a couple of times. open software, click restore, go watch TV, and I am back.
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This is what recovery backups are. You setup, run a nand backup. When something goes wrong, boot into recovery, restore, watch TV, reboot.
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Hello,
So as the title says, I used TGA_Gunnman's steps in order to Root from 2.3.3,
and would like to test out a better ROM. I'm thinking about trying a ROM
that's not as buggy.
Is it possible to backup all my installed apps before proceeding
assuming I can even install a new ROM in the state my phone is in?
Thx in advance...
TTT...pls help..ty.
psukid said:
Hello,
So as the title says, I used TGA_Gunnman's steps in order to Root from 2.3.3,
and would like to test out a better ROM. I'm thinking about trying a ROM
that's not as buggy.
Is it possible to backup all my installed apps before proceeding
assuming I can even install a new ROM in the state my phone is in?
Thx in advance...
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Yes. That's what Nandroid backup is for.
psukid said:
TTT...pls help..ty.
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I use Titanium Backup Free from the market. Under preferences change the default backup location to your external SD card. Go to batch and chose "backup all user apps". To be extra safe, copy the backup created by TI to your computer for safe keeping.
Created Back up...
Here's what I've done...
*I entered ClockworkMod Recovery (via pwr button +down volume) and
created back up there.
Where are the back ups stored so I can delete old one?
*Can I still restore to backup I created after factory reset?
Thank you.
psukid said:
Here's what I've done...
*I entered ClockworkMod Recovery (via pwr button +down volume) and
created back up there.
Where are the back ups stored so I can delete old one?
*Can I still restore to backup I created after factory reset?
Thank you.
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Use a file explorer and look on your external SD card for the file called Clockworkmod/backup/the date of the backup.
I mentioned Titanium Backup because it has been full proof for me restoring my user apps from Rom to Rom.
Yes, you should be able to retore after a factory reset or trying another Rom.
So when I factory reset via clockworkmod, then I can re-enter recovery
there and restore to last backup? So this means all the stock apps I
removed will be there right?
jcbofkc said:
Use a file explorer and look on your external SD card for the file called Clockworkmod/backup/the date of the backup.
I mentioned Titanium Backup because it has been full proof for me restoring my user apps from Rom to Rom.
Yes, you should be able to retore after a factory reset or trying another Rom.
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Ok, so I factory reset via cwm, restored to back up, and
Now phone is back to the way it was before i reset to factory
Settings.
My sounds only for unlock/lock and camera not workin
Is driving me bonkers.
Think i'm ready to try new rom once I.can figure
Out how to install the new rom and apply it.
As long as I have backup in CWM, I can restore to back up
After install of new rom right?
Thx
You are correct. I love weapon 3.O
Did you try titanium backup for your user apps? Games, etc.?
Feel so ignorant....i'm still grying to figure out how to
flash (install) weopon..heck any rom for that matter.
psukid said:
Feel so ignorant....i'm still grying to figure out how to
flash (install) weopon..heck any rom for that matter.
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Keep in mind not backing up your Apps, you will loose them putting on another rom. Use the above mention for the App backup.
Don't I already have the back up that I created within Clockworkmod
or do I need to use another program like TI to back up?
GTWalling said:
Keep in mind not backing up your Apps, you will loose them putting on another rom. Use the above mention for the App backup.
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FINALLY able to install new roms, tried weopon...but when I re-install
TI to restore back up, I don't get most of everything back
(pics, apps, contacts, etc)...
perhaps I backed up incorrectly...will try and repeat steps.
In the meantime, I had to restore to my saved image
via clockwork.
psukid said:
Don't I already have the back up that I created within Clockworkmod
or do I need to use another program like TI to back up?
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psukid said:
FINALLY able to install new roms, tried weopon...but when I re-install
TI to restore back up, I don't get most of everything back
(pics, apps, contacts, etc)...
perhaps I backed up incorrectly...will try and repeat steps.
In the meantime, I had to restore to my saved image
via clockwork.
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Pictures and contacts shouldn't be changing around as you should have contacts backed up through gmail, and your pictures should be saved on your sdcard. Application and data like ringtones and phone setup should be restored if done properly through titanium backup or something similar.
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psukid said:
Feel so ignorant....i'm still grying to figure out how to
flash (install) weopon..heck any rom for that matter.
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I would suggest restoring the original backup you made. Then use TI to back up all your user apps as I described above.
Next step - install your new rom, then restore your apps from TI. Again, be sure to change the default save location of TI to your external SD card before you make the backup of your apps.
There is a ton of info on these topics. So much so that it can be a little confusing. Let me know if you have more questions.
Feel free to hit the thanks if anyone's advise helps you.
So i'm finally good on flashing ROMS but TI is a bit touchy for me.
When I restore the backup I made in the "Batch File" area,
do I restore do I run...when I tried the one that says restore all
apps and user data, I had to individullay install each one...
perhaps this is due to me using the free version???
Will TI backup all my contacts too and the contents of my SD card?
jcbofkc said:
I would suggest restoring the original backup you made. Then use TI to back up all your user apps as I described above.
Next step - install your new rom, then restore your apps from TI. Again, be sure to change the default save location of TI to your external SD card before you make the backup of your apps.
There is a ton of info on these topics. So much so that it can be a little confusing. Let me know if you have more questions.
Feel free to hit the thanks if anyone's advise helps you.
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Did OTA update to ICS on stock B90, then rooted with vipermod. Root is confirmed. Now I'm looking to backup installed apps and user data using the Asus App Backup app. Everything sets up fine, password entered. 21 apps + data selected, file named, etc. Get message that it will take about 10 minutes to complete. Pathnames are correct, folders are present, permissions seem ok. Runs for about 10 seconds, comes back with " 0 Successful " and 21 failed. Red x's by all selected apps. Any ideas?
Ultimate goal is to backup apps and data, then do a factory reset to clear cache and data from HC, maybe even do a stock recovery to ICS then set everything back up. Trying to see if this will clear up any of the annoyances that came with ICS update.
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Yeaah.....
Well I don't really have a solution but i'm certainly experiencing the same trouble u have I Did OTA update to ICS on stock, then rooted with vipermod number 1 option on the vipermod. Root is confirmed. Im trying to restore a previous backup I did and no luck error message is "Failed to restore.please try again"
I just ran a backup of 10 apps to test it on Revolver 4.0.0 Beta 1.31 ICS. Worked perfectly for me.
You can try going to Settings - Apps - App Backup - Force Close then Clear Data
Then try running the backup again.
Just for reference it's worked great for me twice on rooted ICS (stock) from rooted HC (stock). Good luck.
Where are you storing the backup, internal SD or external (microSD)? Encountered this one before until I found out that there wasn't enough space in the microSD. Suggest try to back up first on the internal SD and copy it later when it's successful. On ICS, I had done two backup and restore and all went well.
hapahopi said:
Where are you storing the backup, internal SD or external (microSD)? Encountered this one before until I found out that there wasn't enough space in the microSD. Suggest try to back up first on the internal SD and copy it later when it's successful. On ICS, I had done two backup and restore and all went well.
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Backup path is set to internal, with a copy going to external microSD. MicroSD is 32GB and hardly anything on it, so room shouldn't be a problem. Might try without creating a copy file, and sending it over manually.
Tried that and failed again. So it would seem that it just doesn't like writing the apps and data. When I look in the Asus/App_Backup directory, it creates folders for all the apps, but then doesn't write anything to the folders. Interesting.
dr_korb said:
Backup path is set to internal, with a copy going to external microSD. MicroSD is 32GB and hardly anything on it, so room shouldn't be a problem. Might try without creating a copy file, and sending it over manually.
Tried that and failed again. So it would seem that it just doesn't like writing the apps and data. When I look in the Asus/App_Backup directory, it creates folders for all the apps, but then doesn't write anything to the folders. Interesting.
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Are you trying to write data from a honeycomb backup onto ics? That's not going to work and even if it did would hose your ics.......
asusback up app
I have these problem.I checked 1app anddata backup it saidfailed.went to filemanager and found Asus backup and twas there with the correct date .copied and moved to SD card and pasted it worked. Try 1 app then use file manager to see if it is on your internal drive
tweaked said:
Are you trying to write data from a honeycomb backup onto ics? That's not going to work and even if it did would hose your ics.......
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No....trying to create backup of apps after ICS update so I can do factory reset. I actually went ahead and did the factory reset last night, and got everything back from Amazon and Google markets, not too painful, but still would like to know what's up with the backup utility.
dr_korb said:
No....trying to create backup of apps after ICS update so I can do factory reset. I actually went ahead and did the factory reset last night, and got everything back from Amazon and Google markets, not too painful, but still would like to know what's up with the backup utility.
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Ahhh ok. Yeah don't no, I don't use the Asus bloatware.
well I fix my problem. Flashing Revolver 4 by Gnufabio | 4.0.0 Beta 1.3.1 then restored all app with no problem at all.
How?
jsgogeta said:
well I fix my problem. Flashing Revolver 4 by Gnufabio | 4.0.0 Beta 1.3.1 then restored all app with no problem at all.
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How? Do you mean that you fixed it BY flashing Revolver 4, or that you fixed it first, then flashed, then restored?
I'm on a B90, so not really looking for flashing ROMS right now, as nvflash doesn't work.
dr_korb said:
How? Do you mean that you fixed it BY flashing Revolver 4, or that you fixed it first, then flashed, then restored?
I'm on a B90, so not really looking for flashing ROMS right now, as nvflash doesn't work.
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I change from stock ICS to custom rom and the app works in the custom rom.
Asus backup
i used asus app backup today before i went back to stock ics to receive 4/24 ota since voodoo root keeper didnt work .now i have a stock tablet and tried to restore data from sd, microsd and it said unable to open file. any help?? or where could i copy and paste the backup to?? also used ultimate backup pro and it wont restore anything because it says not rooted.dont want to root just yet. but if i have to does anyone have the way to root the new stock rom?
Thanks
I have he same on Transformer TF300
I do new backup, and then restore -only error "Unable to open backup file"
The same with all old backups
I just did my first ROM / unlock / TWRP /CROM install today and all went perfect thanks to all the guides here, but I have some questions now, more so about my TWRP flash....
I just updated twrp from 2.3.3 to the newest 2.4.4 following their guide using goo manager. I assume it was successful because I'm typing on her now' however.... My home screen now displays <Safe mode> on thebottom left.... Why is this? Also, after the flash, I lost my swiiftkey board app? Actually, seemed to have lost all my apps lol... What did I do wrong? (I didnt titanium backup before I updated, didn't know I needed too lol)
Do most use both nandroid backup AND titanium or just one?
Think that's all I have for now....
BTW, on Cleanrom in her 3.4.7 odex i think...
Edit, I still have all my app icons on my screen, but not in the main menu?
Proweedsmoker said:
I just did my first ROM / unlock / TWRP /CROM install today and all went perfect thanks to all the guides here, but I have some questions now, more so about my TWRP flash....
I just updated twrp from 2.3.3 to the newest 2.4.4 following their guide using goo manager. I assume it was successful because I'm typing on her now' however.... My home screen now displays <Safe mode> on thebottom left.... Why is this? Also, after the flash, I lost my swiiftkey board app? Actually, seemed to have lost all my apps lol... What did I do wrong? (I didnt titanium backup before I updated, didn't know I needed too lol)
Do most use both nandroid backup AND titanium or just one?
Think that's all I have for now....
BTW, on Cleanrom in her 3.4.7 odex i think...
Edit, I still have all my app icons on my screen, but not in the main menu?
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Have you try to power down, then power it backup?? If successful you should have all your apps back.
Edit: what firmware you were on before flashing CROMI??
Yes sir, soon as I did a quick 2nd reboot, she was back to normal. Thank you for the reply, I just get nervous with this being my first time time. Go figure, and finally give up waiting for 4.2, unlock and romantic up, and it drops the next day lol.
I was on 10.4.4.25 I think
Proweedsmoker said:
Yes sir soon as I did a quick 2nd reboot, she was back to normal. Thank you for the reply, I just get nervous with this being my first time time. Go figure, and finally give up waiting for 4.2, unlock and romantic up, and it drops the next day lol.
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Hahaha, indeed of your luck! but not to worry, sdbags is going to get the update 4.2 dlpkgfile sometime today and we should see our 4.2 cromi sooner than expected...in a few days...
Few more questions
Just had a few more questions that I thought of while playing with my NEW tablet, (I honestly stopped using my tablet for months after I got it because it was so laggy, and CROMI has changed all of that!!!!!!!) and figured I would bump this thread vrs start a new one... Sorry for the noob questions, but knowledge is power and Im trying to learn! ( I do read alot! )
Currently on TWRP 2.4.4, CROMI 3.4.7 Odex w/ the OC Kernel 1.8ghz
Now, I have noticed a huge increase in my system files from when I came from stock... IE Stock, I had around 55gigs or something free on internal memory, now, I have around 30, is this normal and what is using that much space? I currently appear to have 2x backups in TWRP menu..
I also have got the Titanium backup as suggested, and backup regularly... But what exactly is it backing up other then apps? Does it create the same backup files that TWRP does? I assume TWRP is backing up the critical O/S files??
How many backups in TWRP are needed and when can I delete (if ever) some? Im guessing here, that TWRP is needed only if you get stuck in bootloop or some other situation that prevents a full boot to home screen?
Should I try to find the backup files in TWRP and Titanium and copy them to my home PC for safe keeping? (I did follow the guides and also have them on clouds)
When preforming a "clean install" of an updated CROMI version, will those backup files on the internal storage be wiped, or are they protected from a wipe / "clean install"? Is a "dirty flash" un-advised? I plan to only use CROMI roms...
I also downloaded the ROM manager thing, as suggested by some.... but, do I really need that? It seems like its just a Titanium clone, with some extras... Also, the ROM manager has some things like boot animations and such, are those safe to use with CROMI? I was looking at some apps to clean up my storage from junk files, but I wonder, if those apps are compatible with CROMI?!?
Ok, thats all I have for now I think, and thank you for the help as always!!!!
OK. I will provide you the best advise as possible but there are variations depend on individual taste.
1. Internal memory growth - possible you backup to your internal instead of external sdcard. Look for large file like videos, rom/kernel in the /sdcard/ download folder. Do clear cache weekly. I just assumed that you download all the roms and backup to your internal.
2. Backing up
a) TWRP - this is called nandroid backup. It will back up your entire OS with all the apps and cache and setup...everything. Before you upgrade from one rom version to the next you should take a backup before do so. Or once in a while if you making a major change to your OS on the same version, you should do a second backup. This backup can restore you back exactly the way it was before you mess up. The disadvantage is you don't have a choice to pick and choose what you can restore. It's either all or none. For this you should keep one backup for the current OS, one for major modified to current OS, one for new OS and one for major modified to the new OS, so total about 4 max. Unless you flashing more than just cromi. This nandroid backup will bring you back your previous setup if you have boot loop.
b) Titaniumbackup - This only backup your system apps, user installed apps and all the settings belonged to the app. You can't use this to restore your OS.(like when you have bootloop). It used to restore applications only. To keep the backup from growing, you should set Max backup history to 5. It's only keep maximum of 5 recent backups.
3. Clean install will only wipe INTERNAL memory, not your external SDcard. So it's highly to keep your Titaniumbackup and TWRP backup on your External sdcard. For double protection make a backup of your sdcard to PC.
4. Personally, I stay away from Rom Manager. Only use bootanimantion, themes etc.. from the tf700 threads. Rom Manager is not tf700 specific so some features may work, some may even brick your device.
5. App to clean up junkfiles - you don't need such app. Most of the stuff you download will be in the /sdcard/download or in the download app folder, example if you use Sugar Sync app to download, the download file will be in /sdcard/mysugarsync folder. You need to keep track of what you put onto the devcie is the best way to manage your internal storage. For external sdcard, you should keep 1), rom, kernel or any necessary zip files to reinstall your OS. 2) all your TWRP and Titanium backup files 3) Anything that important to you.
Hope it all makes sense to you!
Internal memory growth - possible you backup to your internal instead of external sdcard. Look for large file like videos, rom/kernel in the /sdcard/ download folder. Do clear cache weekly. I just assumed that you download all the roms and backup to your internal.
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Yes, I was backing up to the internal memory! I have now backed up TWRP onto my microSD card! I was trying to change Titanium's backup path to the microsd, and I have 3 folders: /storage -Red, not writable -sdcard0 -sdcard1- I assume red is a system folder, sdcard0 is the internal storage, and sdcard1 is the mircoSD, however, when I try to select it, it says "this folder cannot be accessed"?? How do I fix this? I have never formatted my mircoSD or anything, just plugged it in when it came in the mail, and it worked.... Got about 50 gigs worth of movies, and my new TWRP backup on it now....
Do clear cache weekly.
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How do I do this?? Would it be in TWRP menu??
TWRP - this is called nandroid backup. It will back up your entire OS with all the apps and cache and setup...everything.
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Thanks for clearing that up! I thought nandroid backups were another type of backup, and the only thing I could find was an Online Nandroid backup app, so, of course I used that.... I guess I can get rid of that now!
you should set Max backup history to 5
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Ok great, max is 5, so if I just use a value of 1, Im golden then! (BTW, honestly, the only apps I care about are what keeps my tablet running butter smooth, so..... Maybe that will change now that I have a tablet I can actually use lol)
Clean install will only wipe INTERNAL memory, not your external SDcard. So it's highly to keep your Titaniumbackup and TWRP backup on your External sdcard. For double protection make a backup of your sdcard to PC.
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What are the chances of the mircoSD corrupting the files or becoming unreadable when I need to get those backups like TWRP / Titanium?? I assume the PC backup file push is the last resort if the above happened?
App to clean up junkfiles - you don't need such app. Most of the stuff you download will be in the /sdcard/download or in the download app folder
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Actually, that folder is empty.... However, I found how to make it explain what was in each "file catagory" so I understand what is where and how big!
For external sdcard, you should keep 1), rom, kernel or any necessary zip files to reinstall your OS.
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ALL of these files (rom,kernel, etc..,) would be found in the CROMI zip file I used on initial install? Would it be best to leave them zipped if so, or to create a folder and unzip and copy paste it in?
Many thanks!!
Last question, WTF is tunny browser??
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Yes, I was backing up to the internal memory! I have now backed up TWRP onto my microSD card! I was trying to change Titanium's backup path to the microsd, and I have 3 folders: /storage -Red, not writable -sdcard0 -sdcard1- I assume red is a system folder, sdcard0 is the internal storage, and sdcard1 is the mircoSD, however, when I try to select it, it says "this folder cannot be accessed"?? How do I fix this? I have never formatted my mircoSD or anything, just plugged it in when it came in the mail, and it worked.... Got about 50 gigs worth of movies, and my new TWRP backup on it now....
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**** Directory of your external sdcard should be /Removable/microSD.
How do I do this?? Would it be in TWRP menu??
*** You can download a free cache cleaner app from the market
Thanks for clearing that up! I thought nandroid backups were another type of backup, and the only thing I could find was an Online Nandroid backup app, so, of course I used that.... I guess I can get rid of that now!
*** When you do a TWRP backup. This is nandroid backup! so you already using it and didn't know about it lol!
Ok great, max is 5, so if I just use a value of 1, Im golden then! (BTW, honestly, the only apps I care about are what keeps my tablet running butter smooth, so..... Maybe that will change now that I have a tablet I can actually use lol)
*** Yep, 5 is max but anything less is better!
What are the chances of the mircoSD corrupting the files or becoming unreadable when I need to get those backups like TWRP / Titanium?? I assume the PC backup file push is the last resort if the above happened?
*** The chance is very small, but that's why I said a second backup of sdcard to your pc. It easy because it's all in one location (sdcard).
Actually, that folder is empty.... However, I found how to make it explain what was in each "file catagory" so I understand what is where and how big!
ALL of these files (rom,kernel, etc..,) would be found in the CROMI zip file I used on initial install? Would it be best to leave them zipped if so, or to create a folder and unzip and copy paste it in?
*** They should be zipped and move to sdcard.
Last question, WTF is tunny browser??
I believe its a cache directory for Dolphin Browser.
One last question for the night, lol...
As I mentioned, I have never formatted my mircoSD.... Just opened its package (64g Scandisk something or another), plugged it in and its been working just fine ever since, although Xfering files is abit slow :/
Its currently formatted in a "Generic hierarchical" file system..... Being that it will be a life line for my tabby, will TWRP / Titan / etc.., be OK with reading, booting, and w/e else may be required from this type of file system??
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Its currently formatted in a "Generic hierarchical" file system..... Being that it will be a life line for my tabby, will TWRP / Titan / etc.., be OK with reading, booting, and w/e else may be required from this type of file system??
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That's not the real filesystem that the card is formatted with, that's what Windows sees 'through' the connection with the tablet.