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I have a few questions.
Can I use google voice on this for video chat?
Which rom can I install to make this feel more like my Droid 2.
Do I need clockwork mod installed before I root.
Is there a guide to rooting this?
Once I completely customize my gtab, is there always going to be a way to do a factory reset on the event I need to send it in for repairs or what not?
So far this seems like a new tab, my first tab ever. I am sickend by the UI and that is the very first thing I would like to change, I have looked around aand it looks like there are 3 different roms to choose from.
I will greatly appreciate any and all answers for my quesions.
Thanks.
Welcome! Read, Search, and read some more. As has been quoted oft times before "search is your friend". Each of the subjects listed is readily answerable here from previous posts. If you get stuck, research some more, and if still you are stumped ask away. Lots of good people here will help but they appreciate a little homework being done upfront first. Have fun and jump in.
1) Not yet. Wait for Honeycomb and we should be in business.
2) Depends on what rom you're running on your Droid 2. If you run Cyanogen there, then install Cyanogen on your tab and it'll be identical. Otherwise if you're running more or less stock on your Droid, then there's probably not going to be an exact match.
3) You don't have to "root" per se. The bootloader is already unlocked, so, in essence, you're already rooted. Just install clockwork and you're good to go.
4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950 will give you restore instructions.
5) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245 tells you how to get up and going with custom roms.
6) Out of the available options, I'd currently recommend VEGAN, though of course it's somewhat of a matter of opinion.
Welcome to the forums, and glad you're here. Let us know if you have other questions.
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steveninspokane said:
I have a few questions.
Can I use google voice on this for video chat?
Search for Google Voice...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908967&highlight=google+voice
I don't use Google Voice. Am waiting on the Skype App to add video. In the meantime Yahoo! Messenger works.
Which rom can I install to make this feel more like my Droid 2.
I don't own a Droid 2 but there are several polls indicating VEGAn Tab is the most "rommed" of the images available...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911749&highlight=[POLL]
Do I need clockwork mod installed before I root.
See next question...
Is there a guide to rooting this?
The custom ROMs give you root access...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
Once I completely customize my gtab, is there always going to be a way to do a factory reset on the event I need to send it in for repairs or what not?
Search for NVFLASH... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950&highlight=NVFLASH
So far this seems like a new tab, my first tab ever. I am sickend by the UI and that is the very first thing I would like to change, I have looked around aand it looks like there are 3 different roms to choose from.
Stock plus Enhancement Pack
TNT Lite
Cyanogen Mod
VEGAn Tab
Notion Ink Adam
ZPad Clean
Plus a few custom Kernels... see the "development" forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=844
I will greatly appreciate any and all answers for my questions.
Thanks.
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I can't ask this there because I have less then 10 posts
But on the guide about installing closkworkmod, I am having an extremely difficult time.
Entering ClockworkMod:
If you want to get into ClockworkMod you need to shut down your device, then press the Power and Volume+ button (the same way you did to install ClockworkMod).
However, when I do that, it is just installing some thing again.
And I don't even know if I installed cwm in the first place.
I unzipped the update.zip and the Recovery folder to the root of the tablet, followed the instructions it showed it updating something, and now trying to enter cwm, all it ever does is repeat the update.
steveninspokane said:
I can't ask this there because I have less then 10 posts
But on the guide about installing closkworkmod, I am having an extremely difficult time.
Entering ClockworkMod:
If you want to get into ClockworkMod you need to shut down your device, then press the Power and Volume+ button (the same way you did to install ClockworkMod).
However, when I do that, it is just installing some thing again.
And I don't even know if I installed cwm in the first place.
I unzipped the update.zip and the Recovery folder to the root of the tablet, followed the instructions it showed it updating something, and now trying to enter cwm, all it ever does is repeat the update.
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Delete the update and try to boot into recovery again.
also, nothing shows up in my root folder on the tablet, and when I downloaded the internal to my tablet, and I tried to copy from downloads and paste in to the root folder, it says paste failed.
EDIT*
So I deleted the clockwork d/l from sdcard/downloads, and tried to boot into recovery, It showed me the same install box, however I had deleted the install zip.
So I am pretty sure I didn't install cwm in the first place.
I don't know how to get the update.zip into the right location, and I don't have a microSD to install it from.
Cancel that, I don't know what I was doing wrong.
It is now installed.
Hello,
I have a brand new TF101, but the version is not US nor WW nor anything that I could find on the Asus web site. It's an HMJ37.TB_epad rom. Probably related to the fact that I'm in Belgium, we never do things like other people
Now I want to root it, but there is no "stock" TB firmware that I could find to nvflash back if something goes wrong and/or I need to send it for repair. I did find a thread where a method to backup my own device with nvflash is described. But apparently noone tried to reflash a complete backup to see if it works, and it is also clearly said that some partitions are encrypted, so not reflashable as is. So it seems that I basically have no way back if I root. Am I misinterpreting something ? Is there some other source for stock roms with a TB variant ?
Also, I'd like to try Prime, but I read that it's for US or WW models only, so I don't know if it would work... remember that I currently have no way back if things go wrong, so I'd like to be sure
I would be very gratefull if anyone could help...
Thanks,
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Rémi
You'll need a stock TB SKU ROM to unroot and send it back for any service. As for using Prime WW/US, both will work just fine. The hardware is all the same.
find stock TB firmware
thanks for your answer, at least I know I can try Prime
Any idea where I could find a stock TB firmware ?
Did you try asus website?
yes, even the Belgian website has all the localised roms (I guess they all come from the same source), but not TB.
I'll ask my distributor, but as they are just that (distributors) I guess they won't be able to help...
asus answers :-(
Hi,
just for the record in case someone has the same problem:
I contacted Asus support, which told me "the TB version is not yet availlable, please be patient until it is on our web site".
With a bit more poking (ETA? will it really happen?), they added "no ETA, we will tell you when we know".
So no ETA, even informal, and no confirmation that it is indeed planned or even in the making...
A bit disappointed after reading so many (justified) praises for a device which will always recover from whatever one flashes to it. For some unknown reason, we Belgian must stay out of it :-(
I'm in a similar situation; i have the Japanese version which comes with a Japanese keyboard. so using a different region will mess up the keyboard configuration. there is also a secondary program called fskaren which is like a helper for entering kanji characters (instead of a native IME like most other languages)
Like the Belgium model, there is no JP rom out yet (we're still on 3.0.1; but im not sure if Gingerbreak is patched on this version) So when I flashed prime on my transformer (1.5 with nvflash), it not only "broke" the kb (changed it to US format, so i couldnt enter japanese, the kana and font size buttons didnt work as well as some remaped keys like the @ key would show a "[") but it also ended up messing up the recovery partition.
CWM worked fine but when I tried to NVFlash it to a stock WW there was a problem: it deleted CWM fine but it couldnt fully flash the recovery partition (if i did the vol - then vol+ at boot it would give me the android with a ! symbol, I could only do a hard reset if i had the ww firmware loaded on an Sd card. i tried a bunch of combinations for stock ww for 3.0.1 and 3.1 and there was never a time where i could do a hard reset without having the renamed eee_update file on SD.
So a word of warning to people with different version hardware; be careful what you flash, especially if your hardware is noticably different from the "common" versions.
Luckily I was able to get an exchange (from the store) and now i:m waiting for the files to be released or an update so that I can root (i'm assuming that the "pure root" method will work (and I can forgo the CMW part and keep my original recovery partition since ill need FSkaren for japanese)
However, without CMW, i cant make system backups, are there any simple ways to build an NVFlash backup?
There was a link on Modaco for a gui version of nvflash but it didnt work for me (it showed no errors, the progress bar just goes to 100 but no files were created).
I read the thread with the script for doing a backup, would someone like to explain how that one works? (Im assuming through adb but there are some details about restoration that I cant understand)
Id really like to be able to make a recovery for the JP version as I have found that there are quite a few people here who had flashed prime and found that the keyboard functionality had been borked (id like to be able to help them and im sure that it would be useful for building a repository for all the international versions out there.
does anyone want to write a tutorial?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
hi, thanks for your answer.
Our situations are a bit different because the TB 3.1 rom does exist, my transformer is running it. My problem is just that I cant find it as a standalone flashable download, and I cant find a reliable way to backup my current rom as a whole.
Now Belgium has indeed its own keyboard layout, that must be the reason for the custom rom, and apparently I would loose it by flashing prime or any custom rom... crap... keyboard layout should just be a config file :-(
Anyway, I wont touch that beast until I have a reliable way to come back, and will keep this thread informed of my findings if any.
Thanks,
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The Keyboard layout is partially a configuration file for the JP version. A few Japanese people have remapped the keyboard so it matches when running Prime, but since there is no Japanese IME (except voice) our versions need a soft keyboard which runs together with the dock (when you want to type in Japanese). So even with the keyboard settings files in the right place, we would still need the software to add work it.
As for backing up, take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129308
I haven't had time to try it (I need to learn how to use it properly first, someone mentioned a possibility of bricking on restore) but it looks like it can be a solution.
kisaten said:
As for backing up, take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129308
I haven't had time to try it (I need to learn how to use it properly first, someone mentioned a possibility of bricking on restore) but it looks like it can be a solution.
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yep that's the thread that I saw to make my own backup. The problem is that noone tried the restore part
Furthermore, they clearly say that some partitions are encrypted and should not be restored, but apparently they don't know which ones for sure... so although promising, not an option right now.
on the same HMJ37.TB boat
hello rhaaa,
I'm just posting to tell you we are on the same belgian boat
So I thank you for having created the topic, I hope you (and other belgian buyers) can keep us updated about this flash issue. Of course, I'll do the same if I have some fresh info.
By the way, did you do the recent OTA? I'm still on the 8.4.4.5.2-20110603 build.
regards from Brussels,
oliwek
i rooted yesterday BEFORE i read this thread. Have done only root + installed CWM
was going to install a custom rom but might hold off a bit more... Although the fact that i am now rooted will probably stop me from getting new OTA updates?
if I feel lucky, i might install a new rom anyway and hope an original one has surfaced by the time I will actually need it
BUT: does flashing to eg prime rom will make it so that my azerty dock will be in qwerty mode?
Belgium always does things differently in regard to Android, rumor is it's legally regulated somehow.
I will abstain from rooting until the original TB SKU comes out. Keep us posted, if anyone comes across a TB SKU! Cheers!
belblade said:
Does flashing to eg prime rom will make it so that my azerty dock will be in qwerty mode?
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I also would like to know if using a WW firmware, or a custom ROM, creates regional issues with a belgian AZERTY keyboard/dock.... any experience to share?
belblade said:
i rooted yesterday BEFORE i read this thread. Have done only root + installed CWM
was going to install a custom rom but might hold off a bit more... Although the fact that i am now rooted will probably stop me from getting new OTA updates?
if I feel lucky, i might install a new rom anyway and hope an original one has surfaced by the time I will actually need it
BUT: does flashing to eg prime rom will make it so that my azerty dock will be in qwerty mode?
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Could you give me details about the process you did follow? Did you root the last OTA firmware? what is the build?
thank you
edit : sorry for the double post
kovla said:
Belgium always does things differently in regard to Android, rumor is it's legally regulated somehow.
I will abstain from rooting until the original TB SKU comes out. Keep us posted, if anyone comes across a TB SKU! Cheers!
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for people reading dutch, I suppose this is related : http://www.sigridschrijft.be/index.php/geen-youtube-app-in-belgie-door-rechtzaak-sabam/
(no youtube app on different android devices for the belgian market)
i used the topic : [ROM] Transformer 3.1 pure root and worked like a charm
don't remember the exact version but is the one before .11...
still debating on which rom i will try first might wait for prime 1.6 ...
thanks for the details
now that we have some belgians united: has anyone of you been able to install youtube ? i just can't figurer it out.. Not available in the market. Have gotten an apk from somewhere but that didn't install and have tried market access with different codes and that didn't work either...
any help is appreciated !
try with this file attached (works on 3.1 but not on 3.0, or so I have heard)
edit : sorry, you already probably did try with this file, but are you on android 3.1? what is the error message if this doesn't work?
you could try to use alogcat before retrying to install, to get a detailed log
edit : by the way, I wonder if you change your localisation in Android for Netherland or France, or if you use a public proxy to get an IP located abroad, you wouldn't then find youtube for tablet on the market.... You could find several google apps you couldn't find in Europe if you used an american IP through public proxy, so this could work...
see for example this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072655&page=9
Belgian will get youtube on their tablet when using it from their vacation spot in Torre Molinos
it worked with the apk you provided ! Thanks a million
I had a similar apk from tweakers.net that didn't work ...
you're a life-saver !
Forgive me if I'm posting in the wrong section. Forgive me if I'm not allowed to post here yet. Just forgive me in general. I don't want to be banned or anything like that. I'm Extremely interested in android development.
I made a working port of ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.8 for the Pantech Crossover. I wanted to do this before I started tinkering around with porting cm7.2. So that I would have a way to backup, restore, and flash new roms, etc... Or else when I make a noob mistake like yesterday and have a non booting phone resulting in having to flash my old boot.img with fastboot...anyways..
DANGER: DRAGONS AHEAD
FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
The method I used to flash the recovery was:
1)adb push recovery.img /sdcard/recovery.img
2)flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
3)repeat step 2 (for some reason it gave me a read error out of memory the first time)
Here's the link to the custom recovery:
http :// dl. dropbox .com /u/20070520/ recovery.img
I know I'm not supposed to post links yet. Remove spaces
I just hope that there are others with the Pantech Crossover that are interested in this and the possible future development of custom roms.
Also if anyone knows if there is a good way to get ahold of koush let me know, so I can give him what he needs to hopefully add this to Rom Manager. I couldn't message him on github because he doesn't have an email set up with it
And while I'm at it. Here's the method for rooting your crossover. I'm not going to provide the files since they can easily be found with a google search.
1: Find a copy of gingerbreak.apk and copy it to your sd card
2: Enable usb debugging and allow installation of non market apps
3: Install gingerbreak
4: Root device with Gingerbreak
5: You can uninstall Gingerbreak when its completed.
Sent from my rooted PantechP8000 using XDA
Thanks so much for this! I have a friend with a crossover and is always looking for my help with making it work better. I realize this is a newer thread, I was wondering how things were coming along with CM? Anything I can do to help perhaps?
crap i need a rom to fix my crossover the buttons are no longer mapped after a hard reset. please help.
Slow
Well, it's been slow goings so far. I downloaded the open source files for the p8000 and it looks like they just built the original rom from a generic build. I've been trying to get a more customized build setup but I need to do some more reading so far. One of the problems is that instead of an akmd(2) binary for orientation and compass it uses three separate modules. Plus the hci_attach is a bit different as well and so is the bluetooth. So that significantly hampers the ease of even a basic port.
As far as the gentleman with the question about a rom to fix your device. The best I can do right now is to upload a clockwork mod backup after I do a factory reset. I don't get much time to work on this between my wife and daughter.
Also, do you have adb access to your device? Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to adb push the correct keymapping files back to your phone.
You say a hard reset messed up your mappings? What problems were you experiencing prior to the reset?
Crossover
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that there are people watching your thread. I am very interested in this as my parents have Crossovers and have recently rooted and unlocked them (well, I did) and set them up to work on Net10.
The only issue I've noted is that there are some failures, like the Market refusing to install apps no matter what is done. I'm going to install your ClockworkMod in hopes that later it might be useful.
I realize there isn't a large development scene for the P8k yet, and maybe there won't be but it's always a great hope that those with the capabilities might take pity. I was almost thinking that it might be my foray into actually looking deeper at the code than the small bit I've done.
Kind Regards,
Kaylus
Yup
kaylus said:
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that there are people watching your thread. I am very interested in this as my parents have Crossovers and have recently rooted and unlocked them (well, I did) and set them up to work on Net10.
The only issue I've noted is that there are some failures, like the Market refusing to install apps no matter what is done. I'm going to install your ClockworkMod in hopes that later it might be useful.
I realize there isn't a large development scene for the P8k yet, and maybe there won't be but it's always a great hope that those with the capabilities might take pity. I was almost thinking that it might be my foray into actually looking deeper at the code than the small bit I've done.
Kind Regards,
Kaylus
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I haven't had any problems with the market refusing to install apps but I do sometimes run across the no connection error with the market when on wifi. Although I did notice this before I rooted my crossover. Sometimes disabling and re-enabling the wifi helps. I really do think it is a bug somewhere in the original rom.
As far as the custom recovery image. Everything seems to be working pretty good. I use it mainly for restoring previous backups. I would say I've restored my backup at least a dozen times. Occasionally it states there was an error restoring .android secure but I have yet to track that down. I need to double check the recovery.fstab to make sure I have everything set right for the mount points.
stevotdo said:
I haven't had any problems with the market refusing to install apps but I do sometimes run across the no connection error with the market when on wifi. Although I did notice this before I rooted my crossover. Sometimes disabling and re-enabling the wifi helps. I really do think it is a bug somewhere in the original rom.
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I'm actually completely stuck at this point. I'm rooted, unlocked, different carrier, APN set correctly. I can access data and voice -- but it just hangs at "Downloading..." on the market. If I factory reset it works initially but after reboot it fails. I'm not quite sure why this occurs and if it is just this phone or a side-effect of using it on a different carrier.
Strangely Wi-fi doesn't resolve it.
As far as the custom recovery image. Everything seems to be working pretty good. I use it mainly for restoring previous backups. I would say I've restored my backup at least a dozen times. Occasionally it states there was an error restoring .android secure but I have yet to track that down. I need to double check the recovery.fstab to make sure I have everything set right for the mount points.
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I'll give your recovery a run and let you know, if you manage CM7 let me know I know it's a big undertaking. Thanks for the response.
Market Error
As far as the Android Market hanging. I see a few references to it being cause by the .android_secure folder becoming corrupted on the sd card.
One temporary fix suggest moving all the installed apk's back to the phone memory and deleting the .android_secure folder. Then rebooting and moving those apps back to the sd card.
That seems like some wasted time if it doesn't happen to work. I would just turn the phone off, remove the sdcard, and restart (granted any apps that were moved to the sdcard wont work until it is reinserted.) Then I would try to download and install an app. If that works then shutdown, insert sd, and reboot.
I'm really curious if the problems with .android_secure that you and i are having aren't just more bugs in the original rom.
Just as a poster above me said, I am watching this thread and really appreciate everything you are doing. Thanks again.
Well I appreciate the support. I just hope to be able to offer a rom sometime soon. Unfortunately I won't have anymore free time till Tuesday
crimson12 said:
Just as a poster above me said, I am watching this thread and really appreciate everything you are doing. Thanks again.
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Not an issue, life first, then android development.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Pantech Crossover Update
Ahhhhh check out the pantech support page for the crossover. They finally have the Gingerbread update.
http:// pantechusa. com/xupgrade/ remove spaces.
Which is great because I soft bricked my phone (don't ask) and this was going to be the only way to fix it.
stevotdo said:
Ahhhhh check out the pantech support page for the crossover. They finally have the Gingerbread update.
http:// pantechusa. com/xupgrade/ remove spaces.
Which is great because I soft bricked my phone (don't ask) and this was going to be the only way to fix it.
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Oh hell yes finally. Thanks for the notice!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Mildly related, but have you figured out how to root the gingerbread ROM? I've tried ginger break to no avail.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
anyone have a stock image of the 2.2 for android my phone came preupgraded to 2.3.6 and i would like to have it rooted over being on gingerbread since a root method hasnt been found yet for the new firmware
Bricked?
I tried to use the pantech provided gingerbread update this morning. It got about an eighth of the way through and failed. It instructed me to reboot while holding volume up and home and power. That put it in software updating mode. I tried the upgrade 3 more times, it failed at the same point each time. Now my phone is stuck in S/W Updating mode and I can't seem to get it out. I've tried pressing volume up and down for 10 seconds, and pressing volume down and home while powering on, nothing seems to make a difference. Any thoughts about how to at least get me back to froyo?
formattdd said:
I tried to use the pantech provided gingerbread update this morning. It got about an eighth of the way through and failed. It instructed me to reboot while holding volume up and home and power. That put it in software updating mode. I tried the upgrade 3 more times, it failed at the same point each time. Now my phone is stuck in S/W Updating mode and I can't seem to get it out. I've tried pressing volume up and down for 10 seconds, and pressing volume down and home while powering on, nothing seems to make a difference. Any thoughts about how to at least get me back to froyo?
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Nevermind, bad usb cable.
formattdd said:
Nevermind, bad usb cable.
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Glad you got it working!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Yeah now I'm having the same regrets as above. No root.
Sent from my PantechP8000 using XDA
I am starting this thread to hopefully encourage discussion on the Lenovo A2107A-F tablet variant.
I am aware there is an existing thread on the A2107 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982334
but that thread is concentrating on the A-H (dual sim + wifi) variant which is somewhat different from the A-F (wifi only).
So far I have not found any custom rom development, which is disappointing as the stock rom leaves a lot to be desired IMHO. While the current OTA update is fine for web surfing, reading emails etc, HD video playback (particularly YouTube HD) is very poor. Also the recent OTA update forces an optimization of apps on bootup which leads to long boot times
You can root and install CWM by following steps 1-5 from the 1st post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044496
Note that "-Update 3-" mentioned in the post does not appear to work for the A-F model!
So, has anybody any leads on possible development on this tab?
Any tips on improving performance?
My first tip:
If after installing CWM you cannot get to the CWM recovery screen after powering down the device, look for for the file "/system/reboot-from-recovery.p". If it's there, either delete it or move it to some other place. This file restores the default recovery on a system reboot.
I got bitten by this a couple of times
Thanks for starting a separate thread for the A2107A-F. I'm new to Android devices and just got this one two weeks ago. I'd like to get rid of several of the apps that I have no use for and from what I understand that means I have to root it. I got lost in the details of the other thread, but I tried reading all of it. I'm on Vista and somewhere along the line I installed one of the suggested ADB drivers via PDAnet. Device Manager is showing Android Phone and under that Android ADB Interface. I wasn't sure if that matched closely enough with the step-by-step threads since I don't really think of the device as a phone, so I've been holding off on going further. I've tried using a few other drivers that were suggested in the large thread and some other threads, but Vista always tells me the current driver is the most up-to-date one.
Do you know if it's okay for it to say Android Phone rather than something else?
Thanks. I've got some other questions about the specifics of some of the other steps, but this is probably enough to get started.
My apologies in advance if my posts are too long and my questions are too basic for these forums. Feel free to point me somewhere else based on what I'm asking for. I'd honestly appreciate any leads towards my goal of getting rid of the bloat on this device and making it more responsive. (Wow! The portrait to landscape lag is really bugging me now after reading around here).
Anyway, my primary purpose is to remove the seemingly unneeded programs, services and widgets that come with the tablet. Maybe I'm just ignorant about these things, but at this time things like messaging (IMO), mapping, and some of the other default features are of no use to me. They seem to be eating up a lot of resources. I can kill some of the services I think they are associated with, but they keep popping back up.
I did watch the "noob" video (color me a tiny ant to be squashed) and did try to search for an answer to get me even started. I've read the huge main A2107A thread (80+ pages) and tried three of the suggested ADB drivers with my Vista 32 setup for my A2107A-F. The only one that even seemed to connect was ADPnet and it showed the tablet as a Android Phone. Maybe I'm just too paranoid, but after the multiple "brick" posts I'd like to make sure I'm on the right path before trying to "root" the device which appears to be the first step in removing all the extra stuff Lenovo added.
Not that it matters, but I've had the tablet for almost two weeks now and my favorite things are Slacker Radio, Scrabble, Roll It and Zen pinball. I do play Words with Friends with my wife, but I don't like it since some of the words they allow are not valid in Scrabble (which I used to play as an expert competitively face-to-face).
If you are so inclined, feel free to PM me for a Scrabble game. I promise I will not use anything other than my brain and the built in dictionary to make my plays. (I'm a bit rusty since I gave up competitive Scrabble in 2006).
So, long story short... Thanks in advance for any and all advice you can give on slimming down the Lenovo A2107A-F. And if you want an honest Scrabble challenge feel free to PM me.
As far as checking if your drivers are installed properly I would open a dos (command) prompt in window and from within the window change to the directory where you have the 4.03root files. From the command prompt type 'abd.exe shell' and you should see something like "[email protected]:/ $". If you don't see this then you will not be able to root! You need to make that USB debugging is turned on on your device you have an entry in the device manager for ADB Interface (expand on the device which you have showing up).
I am no expert, and I struggled with this on my first go also
Once rooted you can then install Titanium Backup from the play store and use it to get rid of the bloatware! Proceed with caution however as it is possible to remove critical system apps!
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As far as checking if your drivers are installed properly I would open a dos (command) prompt in window and from within the window change to the directory where you have the 4.03root files. From the command prompt type 'abd.exe shell' and you should see something like "[email protected]:/ $". If you don't see this then you will not be able to root!
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Thanks! That's the type of test suggestion I was looking for to make sure I was on the right path with the driver.
So has anyone tried creating a rom for this tab yet? I've been doing some research into porting another rom to work on the A2107A-F, but want to make sure there isn't one already.
I just received a notification of a new firmware update for the A2107A-F. This would be the second available update.
Has anyone else gotten this and taken the plunge yet? I'm curious if this is possibly Jellybean, as some of the larger screen IdeaTab models run this.
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I just received a notification of a new firmware update for the A2107A-F. This would be the second available update.
Has anyone else gotten this and taken the plunge yet? I'm curious if this is possibly Jellybean, as some of the larger screen IdeaTab models run this.
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DON'T DO THE UPDATE!!! I lost root access and now I don't know whether or not if I try to re-root if its gonna brick my tablet!
Kevin147 said:
DON'T DO THE UPDATE!!! I lost root access and now I don't know whether or not if I try to re-root if its gonna brick my tablet!
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I lost root after applying the first update a while back. That's typical when updating. Afterward, I was able to re-root mine again using the same procedure as before. All was well. So, don't panic...yet.
Can you report on what other changes the update made? Is it Jellybean? Or maybe ICS 4.04?
ssenemosewa said:
I lost root after applying the first update a while back. That's typical when updating. Afterward, I was able to re-root mine again using the same procedure as before. All was well. So, don't panic...yet.
Can you report on what other changes the update made? Is it Jellybean? Or maybe ICS 4.04?
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Well, I just re-rooted my tablet and everything was successful! There is absolutely no difference AT ALL with that so called "update".
Kevin147 said:
Well, I just re-rooted my tablet and everything was successful! There is absolutely no difference AT ALL with that so called "update".
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Although I have my A2107A rooted and tweaked to my satisfaction, there are a few lingering issues that I'd hoped an update would correct:
1) The neutered Bluetooth stack. The tablet is supposed to work with Bluetooth keyboards, mice, etc. It doesn't. Although I've gotten it to talk to an external GPS module, other Bluetooth data connections simply will not work. Oh, and Bluetooth audio? Forget about it!
2) Some settings that are present in stock ICS builds are just omitted in this one. As an example, the ability to specify a default TTS voice. It's present under settings in my wife's tablet and every other ICS build I've ever encountered. Not this one!
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DON'T DO THE UPDATE!!! I lost root access and now I don't know whether or not if I try to re-root if its gonna brick my tablet!
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I was rooted too, lost root access (only with some apps!) after the 130221 update Feb 28. I'll try the same root procedure as before to see if I can get it back. Glad to see a thread on the popular US version A2107A-F. Maybe someone will port Jelly Bean to this tablet! Doesn't appear Lenovo wants to do it...
Rob
I cannot get this 'update' to install after downloading. The tablet reboots to CWM during the install (I am rooted with CWM installed) and when I attempt to manually select the update.zip from /sdcard/googleota/ I get on error (status 7). In desperation I re-loaded the stock rom that I found on another thread and when the tablet attempts to update I get a "assert failed apply_patch_check( /system/app/applicationsprovider.apk)" error Anybody any ideas?
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I cannot get this 'update' to install after downloading. The tablet reboots to CWM during the install (I am rooted with CWM installed) and when I attempt to manually select the update.zip from /sdcard/googleota/ I get on error (status 7). In desperation I re-loaded the stock rom that I found on another thread and when the tablet attempts to update I get a "assert failed apply_patch_check( /system/app/applicationsprovider.apk)" error Anybody any ideas?
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I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I'm getting the same exact error. except that I do not have CWM installed (I am rooted though). Perhaps there's a problem with the update.zip?
Something odd that I noticed however: After the tablet reboots into recovery mode, the update fails, and I go to browse for the update.zip, the sdcard/googleota directory is missing (along with everything that follows it alphabetically). They reappear upon normal boot. I've tried copying it to a directory closer to the beginning of the alphabet and it does show up while in recovery mode. But it still will not install.
Maybe I somehow do not have the available space to perform the update? Is that possible? I show plenty of available space on both sdcards. Could we somehow be below a certain ROM space threshold necessary for an update?
I think in my case because I loaded a 'stock' rom I got from another thread, this rom is failing a verification test the update is doing before install. I do not know how to get around this! I'm continuing my search, but I am not so confident this will be resolved easily...
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I think in my case because I loaded a 'stock' rom I got from another thread, this rom is failing a verification test the update is doing before install. I do not know how to get around this! I'm continuing my search, but I am not so confident this will be resolved easily...
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Well, I am running a stock rom. I am unwilling to "mess with success" until there's a 100% reproducible way of recovering if it fails. And, so far, everything I've read in the other A2107A thread has been hit or miss for the A2107A-F people.
Anyway, If the update is performing a verification test, then it my "virgin stock ROM" should certainly pass it. The only thing that I did is to root it. Hmmm...could the update be testing for that and refusing to install if it detects a rooted device? I would tend to doubt that, since the previous ota update went just fine. I lost root in the process but easily reapplied it afterward.
Thoughts?
Interestingly, I flashed the A2107A-F_S483_121115 rom (again, found in another thread) as I was having verification problems with the OTA update just released from lenovo which was available from the A2107A-F_S484_121211 flashed rom. While the S483_121115 rom appears to be older, I no longer get the option to update via OTA as the tablet is telling me that my s/w is up to date! Go figure.
It's really too bad this device hasn't taken off. If I actually knew how to dev then I would start developng ROMs for it. I'm enjoying it now that I have root and got rid of bloat.
Hey guys. Just wanted to say if someone can send me a stock rom and be willing to test, I'll try to do up a good rom for the -f models. I'd use mine for the stock rom, but I've edited a lot of the system, so no go there. If you have the stock rom or want to be a tester, let me know.
I have a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid ( DTH-A1300L ) android version needs help in so many ways. I bought it because I really need one for one of my jobs, yet can't really afford the crazy overpriced insanity that is a new Wacom so the reason it was so cheap was "can't connect to the Play Store. I know, hella foolish, I thought I could fix it by rooting it, but this thing is like level 10 as there is so little info as no one wanted to touch them it seems. I did find one guy on this forum that at one point rooted I am fair to average at rooting and the understanding of all that surrounds it. I have happily and successfully rooted my phones and tablet but I am no pro and fairly good at having gaping invisible holes in my info or logic when it comes to things like this.
Most frustrating is this thing is stuck on android 4 . 1 . 1 for no good reason I can imagine. It has dev tools installed after factory data reset but no google apps. (It arrived factory data reset)
I tried the relevant framework and store and the delete the cache trick to no avail. It can not update and can not even get to the Play Store.
Sooo the bad news is; no Google apps. No updates offered and stuck on some weird what looks like not stock version of 4 .1 .1 Jellybean.
When I plug it into my PC via USB it does not even show up in device manager.
The good news is I rooted it. Checked with root checker (unfortunately for now its Kingroot)
1. I have no idea how to make a back up from here. (no USB connection to PC issue)
or
2. what rom will work as my device is not listed on any of them. It would be great to find the stock rom as I am afraid this things cool and weird cintiq mode, pen function like abilities may be disabled or rendered useless with just any android rom.
Is there anyway to somehow find the stock OS on my device through boot loader? A place to find my stock or like rom. A clever work around?
Thanks in advance. for any who take up the challenge and offer any help or thoughts.
Cheers
Anyone know
What clockwork or custom recovery should I use?
Duende101 said:
I have a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid ( DTH-A1300L ) android version needs help in so many ways. I bought it because I really need one for one of my jobs, yet can't really afford the crazy overpriced insanity that is a new Wacom so the reason it was so cheap was "can't connect to the Play Store. I know, hella foolish, I thought I could fix it by rooting it, but this thing is like level 10 as there is so little info as no one wanted to touch them it seems. I did find one guy on this forum that at one point rooted I am fair to average at rooting and the understanding of all that surrounds it. I have happily and successfully rooted my phones and tablet but I am no pro and fairly good at having gaping invisible holes in my info or logic when it comes to things like this.
Most frustrating is this thing is stuck on android 4 . 1 . 1 for no good reason I can imagine. It has dev tools installed after factory data reset but no google apps. (It arrived factory data reset)
I tried the relevant framework and store and the delete the cache trick to no avail. It can not update and can not even get to the Play Store.
Sooo the bad news is; no Google apps. No updates offered and stuck on some weird what looks like not stock version of 4 .1 .1 Jellybean.
When I plug it into my PC via USB it does not even show up in device manager.
The good news is I rooted it. Checked with root checker (unfortunately for now its Kingroot)
1. I have no idea how to make a back up from here. (no USB connection to PC issue)
or
2. what rom will work as my device is not listed on any of them. It would be great to find the stock rom as I am afraid this things cool and weird cintiq mode, pen function like abilities may be disabled or rendered useless with just any android rom.
Is there anyway to somehow find the stock OS on my device through boot loader? A place to find my stock or like rom. A clever work around?
Thanks in advance. for any who take up the challenge and offer any help or thoughts.
Cheers
Anyone know
What clockwork or custom recovery should I use?
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Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
sawdoctor said:
Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
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Thanks, I will see what I can find out and report back. Also editing from device to check date
sawdoctor said:
Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
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Excuse my noobness. Flashify looks good, I installed it, but don't I need some image from somewhere either the stock OS or a new one for it to work? Not sure how to get Gapps from there.
It did I think, find something, a "restore kernel" and "stock recovery" I am unsure did it find my stock kernel and recovery and or ROM and I should boot from that? ( again apologies a-lot of new info and its getting a bit swirly) In otherwords since my device is not listed any where and at this point any working Android version will do, I am wrong to try and reboot from this? These devices are supposed to come stock on 4.2.2, so I am hoping perhaps incorrectly it will go back to that? That would be ideal at this point.
So I can work again whatever works.
Also I a bit concerned about the "date" I posted from on one of these. I think I posted from the Wacom. Perhaps the problem in deeper than I thought as that is Linux time 0?
I think it self corrected but originally it said I posted on Jan 1 1970...
As for custom ROM, I probably wont be able to make my own custom ROM, even though I would love to take to the time to learn, for now I have too many art and work related deadlines.
I was hoping for one that already existed that would work with my device.
Perhaps I misunderstood something about how all this works? Also I do not have Unbuntu. I should as I support an open internet, but WINE really does not run the Adobe products I need for work so
I am stuck with Windows.
Duende101 said:
Excuse my noobness. Flashify looks good, I installed it, but don't I need some image from somewhere either the stock OS or a new one for it to work? Not sure how to get Gapps from there.
It did I think, find something, a "restore kernel" and "stock recovery" I am unsure did it find my stock kernel and recovery and or ROM and I should boot from that? ( again apologies a-lot of new info and its getting a bit swirly) In otherwords since my device is not listed any where and at this point any working Android version will do, I am wrong to try and reboot from this? These devices are supposed to come stock on 4.2.2, so I am hoping perhaps incorrectly it will go back to that? That would be ideal at this point.
So I can work again whatever works.
Also I a bit concerned about the "date" I posted from on one of these. I think I posted from the Wacom. Perhaps the problem in deeper than I thought as that is Linux time 0?
I think it self corrected but originally it said I posted on Jan 1 1970...
As for custom ROM, I probably wont be able to make my own custom ROM, even though I would love to take to the time to learn, for now I have too many art and work related deadlines.
I was hoping for one that already existed that would work with my device.
Perhaps I misunderstood something about how all this works? Also I do not have Unbuntu. I should as I support an open internet, but WINE really does not run the Adobe products I need for work so
I am stuck with Windows.
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If you just want to be able to install apps from the playstore then this is a simple alternative
https://www.xda-developers.com/unshackle-your-device-from-the-google-play-store-with-apkupdater/
If your phone is rooted then flashify can flash zips like gapps without the need for a custom recovery. If you are serious about trying to make your own rom/recovery then use a virtualbox in windows. http://www.osboxes.org/ has plenty of prebuilt virtual linux machines that will run on windows
Regards
Sawdoctor
I appreciate all your help. I got the "google of every kind from Gapps on has stopped" is over, which was intense as it popped up every few seconds, I somehow got that to quit by reloading the proper one from the APK Pure app which was an odd work around but nothing else was working. Still have this unsettling bare bones screen and none of the stock apps as well as it being stuck in 4.1.1. This device was made for 4.2. and I assume it was on here at one point.
I wonder if that alone could cause hardware issues. I thought about taking out the battery, until I realized that thing is inaccessible as a thing can be without wrecking the industrial glues and taking the entire thing apart which sounds
like an accident waiting to happen and possible making things worse. I imagine that is last case scenario.
Like I said I would love to make my stock reload, at this point that would be great as this thing seems unstable and no trick makes the play store work or allow me to sign into the device with my google email.
I think you are saying to make my own recovery/ROM of my own device I need to do the virtual box thing. Correct? Or is that for writing your own custom ROM? I can try that; make my own recovery that is, as it is not on CWM or TWRPs supported devices list so I have no choice and all in all would prefer the thing to load as if it was fresh out of the box not this 4.1. One serious hiccup I have found trying to use my PC is my device is not recognized as a storage device or otherwise. Not sure if this is due to the weird settings of Cintiq mode or simply because the thing is in a very weird state of 4.1.1. So that may make making changes via computer impossible. I am not the type to give up. Thanks again Saw
Here also is a sum up I added to a the just basic question of Can you find the Stock from a recovery device. Basically is there any way to return a device to stock with no ROMs available to do so, as in extract if from the device itself.
Additional backstory if helpful.
"I have a Wacom Cintiq Hybrid running Android 4.1 that is ( now ) rooted..
This is a very bad thing. The Real Stock ROM has palm rejection and all the drivers to make it work as a tool. So stock is the ideal but it is clearly not stock as my device supposedly came in the
box running 4.2 and with software and drivers to make it work properly with the pen. This has nothing. No software and the smallest amount of apps possible. Worse this is no custom ROM its on ( I think) as it would be the worst one ever and it was not rooted on arrival. I have no idea what happened before I got it. I may have made the mistake of rooting it really as I found out to my dismay there is no ROM support. So back to square one. I bought it ( very cheap for one of these ) "stuck and unable to go to the play store" and I did not realize until I got it, on a version of Android it was not meant for. Wacom is totally and woefully unhelpful in every way. They seem to want to quietly put this device behind them at the expense literally of their customers."