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Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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You can't do this on any android phone, rooted or not. Could you take a picture or maybe tell tmobile your problem, it might be an actual lcd problem.
Yeah I thought that I was the only one. Especially on this site when you view it from your mobile browser, the brown XDA heading is too bright and faded
I noticed it when I got my wife a MT4g. On her phone the colors are slightly more saturated and the blacks are slightly darker also. It is kinda bothering me now.
wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
jesemalave1 said:
wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
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Maybe its related to the screen being used in the phone.
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Im going to the tmo store tommorow hopefully they can help. They will probably look at me crazy.
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My wife is experienceing this as well. She went to look for the night time bedside clock app and found when the app turned the brightness down to 6 the entire screen went black, but at a brightness level of 7 the screen was dim, but still brighter than I would expect.
She commented on her Vibrant when the brightness was turned down it would go all the way down and have a black background, not a washed out dim gray background.
Hopefully there will be a fix coming.
I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
Kienz said:
I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
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I know exactly what you mean, the blacks look grey and the reds look pink.
I think there is something wrong with the contrast balance in the software somehow, because it does seem like a nice screen, but those are just my thoughts.
I sincerely hope that this is the case. If so, perhaps some tweaking can be done in the settings, mch like, but nothng at all like, the registry settings change in WinMo phone, wherein the colors/contrast could be adjusted by assigning different numbers.
I realize that there is a huge difference between android and WinMo registry tweaks. But it's hard to believe they would simply included an inferior screen to go along with so many other hardware improvements.
its not an amoled display guys, it's never going to be completely black or have as high a contrast ratio as the nexus or vibrant.
Yeah, I know what kind of screen it is, and I know how others look in comparison, my point is though, my Mytouch3G had better colors. It just seems like something could be done via software.
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It has only been out a couple of weeks, I would give it some time and everyone complain a little to T-Mobile and hopefully they can add it to a future OTA update.
I only had the MT4G for a night before returning it for a replacement (which is still in the mail), but I agree: The screen looked very washed out. It was so bad that I am now considering keeping my Vibrant.
I am not asking for SuperAMOLED-like quality, but something average would be nice... not low quality crap.
I'm starting to think there's production issues. The very first 2 units I saw had the washed out look. I saw one today that seemed fine. I went thru the menus and changed the backgrounds. Everything seemed much better on this one.
I wish I could compare them side by side, but these were in 2 different stores.
Thoughts?
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I had been weary about the screen ever since I got mine last Wednesday. From reading reviews talking about how great the screen looked, and then mine was kinda... blah. First words in my mind when I turned it on was how washed out some of the colors looked.
I took mine back to T-Mobile tonight and swapped it out for a new and I have to say that there's a huge difference. Some of the colors are still a little off, but it looks like it's the app's icon and not the screen itself. Compare the newest YouTube app's red to the TasKiller's red, for instance.
Now to wait on the OTA so I can re-root this thing and clean it off.
I wish I had something to compare mine to. I went to the store, thinking I would compare mine to one of theirs. But it was a bust; as the screen looked exactly the same. So either mine is as good as the replacement you got, but just pales in comparison to the Nexus. Or it's washed out, the one in the store is washed out, and I'm still at square one. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to tell.
I took my MT4G back after running the Asphalt demo next to an Epic and Droid X. The colors were totally faded out and missing details seen on the other devices. The Epic is over-saturated and the X seems to split the difference, not to mention the size is awesome.
Hmm...
Well, being with T-mo, neither of those other two is an option for me. But, I'm thinking about it, and I'm starting to think our phones only seem to pale in comparison.
What I mean is, side by side, yes, they seem to be less-than-stellar. But when used on their own, they seem to be pretty alright... though obviously not as good as what our minds recall the others being.
If you look at a 60hz 1080p tv side by side with a 120hz edge-lit LED tv, yes, the original would look tame. But that's not to say that it doesn't look great on it's own.
Just got my T-Mobile HTC Sensation in the mail today.. haven't popped in my SIM card yet, just playing with it a bit to see how I like it. My initial thoughts:
Very well built, feels great in your hand, doesn't feel heavy or bulky at all. Big thumbs up
The viewing angles really are bad.. unless you look at it straight on, a black background becomes gray and the image becomes cloudy. I'm probably spoiled by the AMOLED on the N1, but that's my reaction.
The browser is silky smooth! You can pinch-zoom at will, everything is crisp and sharp. But again, it looks washed out to me.
The launcher IS LAGGY. There's just no other way to put it. Swiping homescreens is laggy, pinch zooming out to see all of them is laggy and choppy, and a factory reset didn't solve that problem.
Camera and camcorder are good! Video framerates are good even in low light.
I know LauncherPro would probably fix the lag, but then where is that Dual Core performance? What's the point of designing such a grand 3D interface if the homescreens aren't smooth?
That screen is really bothering me... I thought I would be okay, but despite the resolution I like the Nexus One display better, just because it always looks great even if it's sitting on your desk and you glance at it. With the Sensation, you just see a washed out glow... yuck.
Sorry if this sounds really harsh, but these are my gut initial reactions. I really want to like this phone.. let's see!
The 'dual-core' is more marketing. It adds nothing to the phone's performance. I previously had a G2X and it was slower than my Nexus S. I'm just hoping this phone that I have ordered won't reboot 3x's a day.
you must have had a bad g2x. i've had both and the g2x was way faster than both the nexus s and the sensation.
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The 'dual-core' is more marketing. It adds nothing to the phone's performance. I previously had a G2X and it was slower than my Nexus S. I'm just hoping this phone that I have ordered won't reboot 3x's a day.
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Like the previous poster said. You must have had a bad G2X (like 99% of the people who own one) because the G2X I had was the quickest Android device I have ever used (including the Nexus S). Dual Core is not a marketing term. Android just hasn't utilized the two cores yet (except for Honey Comb). I can attest to games playing at a higher frame rate on both the Sensation and the G2X than they did on my Vibrant, Nexus S and Nexus One.
To the OP....Once I turned the animations off and that stupid animated weather when unlocking the phone, the lag went away. I now have no lag when deleting items from the home screen, transitioning home screens and opening the app drawer. When I kept the phone stock like HTC sent it, it did in fact lag a little but not much. In my opinion HTC put to much animation into Android without having hardware acceleration.
The lag comes from HTC sense...it's an awesome UI for customization and features, but uses a lot of resources.
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The lag comes from HTC sense...it's an awesome UI for customization and features, but uses a lot of resources.
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Yep once were rooted and we can remove sense well be flying even more
pakraider said:
Very well built, feels great in your hand, doesn't feel heavy or bulky at all. Big thumbs up
The viewing angles really are bad.. unless you look at it straight on, a black background becomes gray and the image becomes cloudy. I'm probably spoiled by the AMOLED on the N1, but that's my reaction.
The browser is silky smooth! You can pinch-zoom at will, everything is crisp and sharp. But again, it looks washed out to me.
The launcher IS LAGGY. There's just no other way to put it. Swiping homescreens is laggy, pinch zooming out to see all of them is laggy and choppy, and a factory reset didn't solve that problem.
Camera and camcorder are good! Video framerates are good even in low light.
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I'm also coming from an N1
-Agree on the build quality. Only thing I can say is that I feel a little bit shaky about the actual release button for the back cover but no biggy.
-I feel you on the bad viewing angles
-Agree on the browser
-You know what, I don't have that many apps on my phone but my phone is not laggy, pretty responsive actually, I would say more so than my N1.
-Haven't messed around with the camera too much yet.
One thing though I was sad to shelf the AMOLED on my N1 but am not as disappointed as I thought I would be. Yes the viewing angles are BAD I do admit that but I'm pretty happy with my straight on view of the display. It is very vibrant head on and not far off from the quality of the N1. I wonder if there are multiple screen manufacturers... When I got an MT4G, now that display SUCKED!!! totally washed out even head on. I heard they improved the screens in the later batches but it was nasty. Screen on the sensation is 10x better but no AMOLED.
I exchanged my sensation for a new one today.the 3 hours i was using my nexus one i missed the sensation so much lol. The big screen and higher res ftw
Try GoLauncher and there should be no lag.
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To the OP....Once I turned the animations off and that stupid animated weather when unlocking the phone, the lag went away. I now have no lag when deleting items from the home screen, transitioning home screens and opening the app drawer. When I kept the phone stock like HTC sent it, it did in fact lag a little but not much. In my opinion HTC put to much animation into Android without having hardware acceleration.
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I tried turning off the animations, but it's still a tad choppy.. I'm pretty sure it's just Sense, because I did go ahead and install LauncherPro, and it's smooth as butter. But again, then you lose all those nice Sense widgets (which I like).
I think Sense without the 3D animations, and with a standard scrollable app drawer would be the perfect combination.
note: One huge disappointment.. just like my N1, the Sensation browser is very choppy when browsing XDA forums. Really weird.
Hope to add a few comparisons soon
This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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Robertcrow said:
This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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Not necessarily true. Im using the SIM card from my N1 in my G2X now and getting great 4G speeds. No.changes to my plan either.
Just a shot my wife had issues with her mt4g being slow then she was told she didn't have a 4g sim card then after she got one there has been no lag
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Coming from an N1 myself. I agree on the display. I used my N1 as an alarm clock in the dock and you could get it very dark. On the lowest brightness, the Sensation is like a beacon lighting up the whole room. Viewing angles are not great, but I dunno...I'm usually looking directly at my phone so I doubt it will be a huge issue. The N1 certainly spoiled me....
Some other thoughts:
The notification LED is almost worthless...I didn't even see it until day two of using the Sensation. A strange location and it isn't very bright.
Build quality is excellent, although the "sharp" edges on the front can make it sorta strange to hold...I'll probably get used to it.
After coming from stock Android on an unlocked N1 (not rooted), I can say I am looking forward to this thing being rooted so I can remove the dozens of silly apps I will never use. Very frustrating. Especially since I got one for my Dad and I know seeing a bunch of apps he doesn't want is going to confuse him.
I'm split on sense. I like a few of the widgets and I really like the unlock screen, but having duplicate applications is annoying (a "sense email" and "gmail", a "sense calendar" and "calender", etc). All in all, I would probably opt to remove it and return to stock Android if I could.
The Facebook integration is nice with one glaring problem: It auto syncs the facebook contacts. Not a big deal in the "contacts" app because you can hide them. However, go write a text message and it draws from the "people" app which has no ability to hide contacts and shows them all at once and multiple entries if they have more than one phone number. So I would go to write a text message and see a few hundred people from facebook that I barley know and would never want to text. The only way I could get rid of them was to disable the HTC facebook app, download the official one from the market and then opt not to share any contact info from Facebook. It works just like it did on my N1 (no FB integration, just go to the app) but it just seems silly that they thought of this issue on the contacts display but not for text messaging because the integration is actually sorta cool. For instance, it would download profile pictures for all of my contacts and even show recent status updates in the contacts view. Too bad they botched it on the text messaging.
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yep once were rooted and we can remove sense well be flying even more
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I too switched from a nexus one to the sensation. i love it soo much the only thing i dont like is it seems the data stops randomly when i have full 4g. maybe its my network in colorado but thats a little annoying. other than that with launcher pro and gosms it runs soooo smooth and no lag at all. multitasking is awesome!! when running music beta browser and other appz.
somethings up cause i have no chop. it's butter smooth. ans i have turned none of the animations off.
As most of you know, I am a very happy G2X owner. I returned 3 only to get a fully working device with not one bug on my forth try. That being said, here is a list I have compiled of my opinions on each device.
1) UI performance: The G2X is more responsive within the UI and rarely ever lags if not at all. The Sensation has a little lag with the settings HTC ships it with. After turning off the animations within the settings, removing the 7 home screens worth of widgets and turning off the animated weather upon unlock, the Sensation becomes more responsive and lag is almost non-existent. That being said. I have to give the edge to the G2X because the UI just feels faster overall.
2) Browser Speed: The G2X has a slight advantage when zooming in and out using pinch to zoom but the Sensation is faster when scrolling up and down. I hated that I couldn't flick my finger and zoom to the bottom of the page on the G2X. I noticed no difference when it came to loading web pages but the Sensation has the edge when it comes to Flash playback which is noticeably smoother than on the G2X. Lastly, the Sensation can fit more of the webpage on the display due to it's resolution so I have to give a slight advantage to the Sensation.
3) Game Play: Games play smooth on both devices but I loved the Tegra games that aren't readily available on the Sensation. The non-Tegra games I play on a regular basis (Home Run Battle, Angry Birds and Dungeon Defenders) all run great on either device and I cannot notice a difference between the two when it comes to frame rate. I have to give the slight edge to the G2X due to it having the great looking Tegra games.
4) Display: Coming from the Vibrant, the G2X display did not WOW me. Don't get me wrong. It's a good display (as long as you have minimal bleeding) but it's nothing special. The Sensation's display appears more vivid and sharper while noticeably displaying text more clear due to it's higher resolution panel. Both displays are equal when viewing in direct sunlight but neither one is very good in my opinion. I have to give this category to the Sensation due to a higher rez, larger display and a sharper colors.
5) Build Quality: Both devices feel very solid in the hand and appear to weigh about the same when in my hand. I love the rubbery feel on the G2X back plate as hit helps with grip and just feels great on the hand. In my opinion the back plate on the Sensation isn't as good looking nor does it feel as good. However, the Sensation feels better in your hand due to it's round edges. Both devices have a nice curve to the glass as well so I am giving them a tie in this category.
6) Speaker Quality: Both devices lack in this category due to the volume being to low when playing media. Voice calls sound good on either device but they sound a little hallow/tinny on the Sensation if that makes any sense. People on the other end said I sounded fine on both devices. In the end, someone needs to create a fix for the external speaker volume on both devices. The G2X gets the slight edge for sounding better during voice calls.
7) UI looks: This mainly comes down to preference and I like using both the Sense overlay and vanilla Android but lets face it. Most of us always throw a launcher on top of our UI skins no matter what it is. Sense obviously adds more flash to the UI and the new version has some pretty cool features like the new lock screen. I know there is always widget locker but it doesn't look any where near as good and sometimes it doesn't always remove your stock lock screen. Obviously vanilla seems to be faster and is more responsive so this is a category I am not going to name a winner in since it really comes down to personal preference.
8) Camera: Both of them take good still shots but the Sensation's shots look more crisp and records 1080p video much better. Videos appear to be smoother on top of looking better. The dual flash on the Sensation puts out a litltle more light which can be good and bad by lighting up the night club shots better but also washing out the photos a little more. I never liked flashes on phones anyway. Both of them have good camera apps but the Sensation gets the pick here due to video and still shots looking better.
9) Battery: Unlike some people who have a G2X, I was one of the lucky few to have a good battery and could easily get about 10-14 hours on moderate use. That being said, I get 15-18 hours on moderate use with the Sensation so this category obviously goes to the Sensation.
10) Storage and RAM: HTC really needs to start putting more app storage on there devices. It's 2011 and there still only adding 1gb of app storage. The Sensation has more RAM and even though it's running Sense, it shows a little more available memory on a fresh boot which is 263mb and on the G2X it is 249mb. This category gets a tie.
I have one bug on my Sensation and that is the WiFi death grip with holding it in landscape. I am starting to think these company's just don't care when putting there devices on the market. How hard is it to hold the phone in landscape and check for signal degradation?
I hope this helps you make the decision of whether you want to check out the Sensation or stay with the G2X. Haven't made my mind up yet though. I like them both!!!
Nice write up!
Thanks for the honest review...
thanks u da man
Thank you sir. Can you rate the front facing cameras on these devices? The g2x's is nice and honestly wish w/e drivers are used on it be mirrored onto back facing cam because the lighting is awesome.
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Very very nice review.... Staying g2x.. I felt basically the same with the sensation....
Good lord man, thanks for taking the time to write that up!
The Nexus One was the first HTC device I ever had and every one of their phones after that had extremely tinny speakerphones. I guess it's simply not a priority for HTC. I think it's sad honestly because I love using the speaker.
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Great comparison..I'm own my second g2x and on the ultimate rom and has zero issues..will stay with g2x...
Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
Thank you for your review. I had similar perceptions after playing around with a Sensation. The browser didn't perform as well as you have indicated on the unit I used. It was an in store unit so who knows what may have been done with it though. I decided to stick with my ROMed G2X and wait out the update.
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10) Storage and RAM: HTC really needs to start putting more app storage on there devices. It's 2011 and there still only adding 1gb of app storage. The Sensation has more RAM and even though it's running Sense, it shows a little more available memory on a fresh boot which is 263mb and on the G2X it is 249mb. This category gets a tie.
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I typically have 260-270 free on my G2x after a reboot though I'm not running stock. It really shouldn't matter on GB though as it should be dynamically controlled, giving and taking as needed.
The internal storage is a larger deal for those without a decent size and speed Micro SD card. If not for using it to transfer large work files to and from home I could probably do without an external card on the G2X. A couple gameloft games on the Sensation and you'll be out of space in short order. I could see this being quite annoying for some people.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens with both devices as development continues on each device. The G2X is waiting for the GB update and the Sensation is waiting for HTC to unlock the bootloader (I think?).
Both are great phones
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Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
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I think this app drawer scrolling issue you are talking about is by design in the new Sense 3.0, it scrolls down through the app drawer in pages. Depending on how many apps you have you will have to swipe again to see the next set of apps. When I am using Launcher pro it will "fling" all the way to the bottom of the apps listed. This is not in reference to the tabs at the bottom.
OP: Thanks for the great write-up. I have both G2X and Pyramid, coming from an Nexus One I love the form factor of the HTC Sensation. Right now the G2X has a huge advantage (CM7 within two weeks of release), but (if/when) the Sensation is unlocked and custom roms are avail (Sense removed). I think "for me", the HTC Pyramid 4G will be the perfect phone.
Most suprising aspect of comparison is that the Sensation and G2x are almost identical in physical size
meh...
The sceen on the sensation unit I played with was crap. Washed out blacks and dull color compared to the G2x. I compared both screens using the app drawer (looking at black levels and icons) and viewing several web sites with brightness at 25, 50 and 100%. Even the rep was surprised. Combined with a very slow Internet and a weak cpu and gpu, you can keep it.
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Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
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I think you might be referring to page scroll in the new Sense. When you fling through the app drawer it moves by pages and will not let you fling to the bottom with one flick. It gets annoying if you have a lot of apps but if you throw on a different launcher, it acts like every other app drawer on Android.
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Thank you for your review. I had similar perceptions after playing around with a Sensation. The browser didn't perform as well as you have indicated on the unit I used. It was an in store unit so who knows what may have been done with it though. I decided to stick with my ROMed G2X and wait out the update.
I typically have 260-270 free on my G2x after a reboot though I'm not running stock. It really shouldn't matter on GB though as it should be dynamically controlled, giving and taking as needed.
The internal storage is a larger deal for those without a decent size and speed Micro SD card. If not for using it to transfer large work files to and from home I could probably do without an external card on the G2X. A couple gameloft games on the Sensation and you'll be out of space in short order. I could see this being quite annoying for some people.
It is going to be interesting to see what happens with both devices as development continues on each device. The G2X is waiting for the GB update and the Sensation is waiting for HTC to unlock the bootloader (I think?).
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Yea, it could have been that the store model wasn't connected to a fast WiFi/4G signal. I tested both the G2X and the Sensation on my cocktail table about 5 feet from my router. The store model also probably suffered from the hanging data bug as well. Here is the fix for that. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118017
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Great review! Thanks.
I went to the mall yesterday and held one in my hands. Looked awesome. One thing that stood out was that when I scrolled through the apps in the app drawer, not only did they seem jerky as they scrolled, but they didn't "fling" as well. Seemed to move perfectly in time with my swipe. Seemed to take several swipes to go through the short stack of icons. Not a deal breaker or even a real concern, but sure seemed noticable. Any comment on that?
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That's because the sensation's app drawer goes page by page. Its not jerky. Its how they have tweaked it.
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meh...
The sceen on the sensation unit I played with was crap. Washed out blacks and dull color compared to the G2x. I compared both screens using the app drawer (looking at black levels and icons) and viewing several web sites with brightness at 25, 50 and 100%. Even the rep was surprised. Combined with a very slow Internet and a weak cpu and gpu, you can keep it.
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You must have played with a faulty unit because mine are sitting on the table right in front of me, set to 100% brightness with the app drawer on both and it's actually quite obvious the icons on the Sensation are sharper/more colorful and the background is darker than on the G2X. I don't know if my DSLR will pick up the darker black on the Sensation since it's such a small difference but I can tell you right now. If I took a picture of them sitting next to each other, you would see the difference in color of the icons and clarity of the icon text. A picture would definitely show, that the Sensation's icons are in fact sharper, more colorful and more vibrant. They just appear to POP more.
I'll post a picture when I get home from work so we can put this argument to rest.
I have played with the Sensation. G2x beats the screen on it by a landslide in terms of color reproduction and black levels. I am still going to try and replace the phone for a Sensation though.
nice review dude
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You must have played with a faulty unit because mine are sitting on the table right in front of me, set to 100% brightness with the app drawer on both and it's actually quite obvious the icons on the Sensation are sharper/more colorful and the background is darker than on the G2X. I don't know if my DSLR will pick up the darker black on the Sensation since it's such a small difference but I can tell you right now. If I took a picture of them sitting next to each other, you would see the difference in color of the icons and clarity of the icon text. A picture would definitely show, that the Sensation's icons are in fact sharper, more colorful and more vibrant. They just appear to POP more.
I'll post a picture when I get home from work so we can put this argument to rest.
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I've seen quite a few people post about their Sensation screen looking washed out. The one I saw at T-mobile looked a little washed out to me. I think this is similar to the G2x bleed problem. Some of the units have a problem and some don't. For instance my G2x has absolutely no screen bleed at all but my girlfriends has a slight amount at the top. You probably got a good Sensation where as some of these people that are complaining didn't.
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meh...
The sceen on the sensation unit I played with was crap. Washed out blacks and dull color compared to the G2x. I compared both screens using the app drawer (looking at black levels and icons) and viewing several web sites with brightness at 25, 50 and 100%. Even the rep was surprised. Combined with a very slow Internet and a weak cpu and gpu, you can keep it.
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I noticed the same thing. I was kinda perplexed at the OP's review. The screen on the Sensation looks washed out. Colors were not crisp. Speedtest was almost twice as slow as the G2x. Maybe we tested a defective unit?
Hey guys, new here and just wondering what you think about the size of the infuse. I'm considering getting one, but I am worried that I won't get used to carrying such a massive phone around. I am also thinking about the captivate because it is smaller, but definitely like the infuse more except wrt every other aspect of the phone. Thanks
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Hey guys, new here and just wondering what you think about the size of the infuse. I'm considering getting one, but I am worried that I won't get used to carrying such a massive phone around. I am also thinking about the captivate because it is smaller, but definitely like the infuse more except wrt every other aspect of the phone. Thanks
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To me, I barely even notice the size until I hold a different phone. It just feels perfect in my hands. Its not really that much of a hassle to carry around since its so darn thin. Its not at all bulky. Fits nicely in my jeans pocket.
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The infuse feels better in your hand than you would think. This is due to its extremely thin profile. I owned a Dell Streak 5 and I hated it yet it is only a 1/2 inch bigger in the screen....reason being the thickness. Go for the infuse, best phone out there!
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It totally depends on you actually. I know a some people have trouble using it with one hand, where I have no problem swyping one handed and reaching all corners of the keyboard. You should go check it out in store, and see if you can operate it one handed. If you usually use two hands and don't swype, definitely get this phone! The screen is gorgeous and watching media such as netflix streaming on it is unbelievable. Basically like having a mini HDTV that I can carry around in my pocket.
Also, I had a captivate and was very happy with the screen size...until I got my infuse that is. Haha. My dad uses my captivate still, and every time I pick it up I can't believe how small it feels and just feel like I could never go back to anything smaller than 4.5". Like others have said, the thin form factor definitely makes this phone svelte and very useable.
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i thought the same thing. Coming from my hd2 it wasn't a really big difference. what you will really notice is the thin profile. i found... kinda hard to grasp on to. but in the end, you will find out it is the a really good device.
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what you will really notice is the thin profile. i found... kinda hard to grasp on to.
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I agree. It really isn't "THAT" big but the biggest problem for me is the thinness. It's so light and thin that for me it is difficult to hold on to but I have other issues such as arthritis in my hands which makes it worse. Putting it in a Bodyglove rubber case added enough surface to it to resolve that.
The screen size is absolutely perfect for me. I came from a g2x where I thought the screen was way to small. I was at the movies recently showing my girl how good Netflix looked and some random Guy asked me where I got my portable TV from.
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corywd said:
Hey guys, new here and just wondering what you think about the size of the infuse. I'm considering getting one, but I am worried that I won't get used to carrying such a massive phone around. I am also thinking about the captivate because it is smaller, but definitely like the infuse more except wrt every other aspect of the phone. Thanks
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I just made the switch from the i897 Captivate to the i997 Infuse on Monday night and I carry my device directly in my pocket and I have to say I really do not notice any difference between the two devices. Where I start to notice the difference is when it comes out of the pocket and into my hand. Definately a difference when it hits your hand and you start to use it. I had a little bit of a transition from using the Infuse with the cord plugged in (Captivate plugs in on the top, Infuse on the bottom) I thought I hated the cord on the top but not I actualy prefer it over the bottom plug scenario. When it was on top it was easier to hold in hand without the cord in the way. Now that it is there I am having to constantly adjust the way I am holding the device to accomodate this placement of the cord.
Other than that little "Inconvienience" The device is fantastic, brilliant in display...I am constantly getting the WOW factor when people see the screen and how vibrant it is. And battery life is right on par with all other devices (1/2day/12-13hrs of moderate to heavy use all day). So I would say go for it if you were on the fence or hold off a little longer and get the SGSII (pretty much the same phone but with dual core) which will be out in a month or so...or so they say.
It will be difficult to step down to a smaller screen size
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As long as you don't death grip all the time or your hands are on the smaller end of the spectrum, the Infuse should be great.
Even with the screen being larger than other smart phones, the phone itself doesn't feel massive. Between the weight, thinness and just overall dimensions; this is a great phone. Compare to a Captivate or a Vibrant, there is no inconvenience that I've seen. If anything, you get a larger screen with better resolution and more capability. Development is building for the phone as well.
Overall, I don't think you will be disappointed with this phone. I have nothing but good things to say about it.
Way, way too big.
It is literally impossible to hold it with one hand and drag the notifications down.
With the same 480x800 resolution you don't get more screen real estate than a Captivate, just everything is bigger and pixelated.
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Mikey is just angry because people started asking him if he was compensating for something. =P
Just messing with you. I personally haven't seen the pixelation issue, but maybe I'm just overlooking it.
I would definitely have to agree that it isn't a phone that's super easy to manipulate with one hand, but at the same time I haven't really had any issues. I think it just takes some adjustment coming from a smaller phone.
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, is that I'm much happier with the GPS on this phone than the previous generation Galaxy S models(i.e. Vibrant, Captivate and Fascinate). I know that isn't really size related, but it's definitely an improvement.
Ok Thanks everybody. I think I'm gonna go with the Infuse. 1 other quick question. Does it's thinness and size make it more fragile? I would put a case and screen protector on it, but is the screen breaking going to be an issue? Thanks
corywd said:
Ok Thanks everybody. I think I'm gonna go with the Infuse. 1 other quick question. Does it's thinness and size make it more fragile? I would put a case and screen protector on it, but is the screen breaking going to be an issue? Thanks
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Mine fell from the stairs at my house. Hit the last step. Still kicking
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Mikey is just angry because people started asking him if he was compensating for something. =P
Just messing with you. I personally haven't seen the pixelation issue, but maybe I'm just overlooking it.
I would definitely have to agree that it isn't a phone that's super easy to manipulate with one hand, but at the same time I haven't really had any issues. I think it just takes some adjustment coming from a smaller phone.
One thing I forgot to mention earlier, is that I'm much happier with the GPS on this phone than the previous generation Galaxy S models(i.e. Vibrant, Captivate and Fascinate). I know that isn't really size related, but it's definitely an improvement.
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The GPS on the Infuse is nice. Not as good as a real GPS or my Xoom was, but nice.
I have yet to try tracking but it locks on faster indoors than the Captivate could floating in space next to the satellites.
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In general, the phones I've had before had really snappy keys that had a lot of feedback when pressed. Unfortunately, I'm not getting the same thing on my myTouch's keyboard. It works in such a way that I put a little bit of force on the key, feel no feedback, and see the key appear in whichever text box I'm typing in.
Is this the way it was designed, or is it a hardware defect? I'd really like to know because I am getting ready to root it, and I'd rather not have a subpar phone. The keyboard is one of the main reasons I really wanted this phone, but I've now grown accustomed to typing on the screen because of how odd it is to type on the keyboard.
If it matters, I have the khaki color.
I don't recall ever having feedback when using the hardware keyboard, and what you described above sounds like normal operation.
How do you like the khaki one?
I've noticed this as well. I've returned several phones, not for this reason, but my current phone is the only one where I get a good click or compression on the keys. Otherwise, sometimes it feels like I didn't press the key, but the keystroke still shows up. The g2 imo gives a lot of feedback.
I would have preferred the black, but I do think that the Khaki does look very nice. It has a nice contrast to the colors, but manages to look good.
As for the keyboard, I'm disappointed to hear that. My sisters mytouch 3g slide had a keyboard that gave a lot of feedback. I see no reason why it would be gone from these models... In any case, it's a fantastic phone otherwise.
i was kind of fooled by the dummy model phones in the Tmo store- they seem to have a real nice, more-raised keyboard. then when i got the phone i was kind of dissappointed that the keys were pretty flat. i went back and a guy told me that the dummy models are not exactly the same as the real models, that they are built more durable, to withstand all the touching and handling that people will do to it in the stores. i guess that makes sense.. i should have complained more i guess.. maybe i'll go back, lol.
I played around with them too, but I didn't notice any real difference between the display unit and my own. I suppose that some people get lucky with their units.
If you want to trade your khaki for a black I'd be more than happy to but yea my phone provides a little feedback although not as much as desired. It takes some time to get used to. But overall this phone is the first one i fell in love with, and i dont want to change it until it becomes completely obsolete
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Coming from a g1 this keyboard feels smoother and nicer.
Just me though.
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Droidmoder said:
Coming from a g1 this keyboard feels smoother and nicer.
Just me though.
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I'll agree with this to a point. I miss the dedicated number keys.
My MT3GS had much better tactile feedback, but I got used to this one pretty quickly and don't mind it.
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I'll agree with this to a point. I miss the dedicated number keys.
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Yup thats my only. Gripe. I got use too using alt now lol
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I hate the mushiness of the keys.
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the MTS3G was much better (as others have said) the keys on that phone almost seemed to "snap" like a proper keyboard.
Although the layout of keys is better on the 4G slide (with the exception of the <back> button too close to the spacebar) , but the keys themselves really suck - feels like im typing on a some cheap calculator.
Also (being like a calculator) find it hard to type fast on the 4G slide.... with the tops of the keys flat (as opposed to the concave [dome'd] keys on 3G slide). The flat keys make you hit the wrong key sometimes, even with people with small hands.
in summary the old keyboard was much better..... but performance sucked. 4G slide much better faster, better camera, more storage... --just sad it has such a crappy keyboard...
My phone got better over time. My top row of keys did not have much of a click when I pressed em initially. Not all mt4gs are made the same. You can probably exchange it for another one if your keyboard is bad. You might have better luck
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Like I said I went through about three replacements before finding one where the keys actually felt like they were clicking
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Having used all sorts of HTC phones with keyboards since my first Blue Angel I have to say that my old TouchPro2 had the best keyboard. MT4GS keyboard feels like it was put there in haste. Awfully constructed, no tactile feedback, i keep hitting the .com key because in their infinite wisdom they put it right before the A key, the space bar key is hit or miss and it is NOT centered. I am finding i have to retrain myself with this thing to use my left thumb to hit the space bar instead of my usual right. Before I clould type long emails on the phone, with this one I find i am not typing nowhere near as much. And would it kill HTC to put the 4 directional keys????
FreeK200 said:
In general, the phones I've had before had really snappy keys that had a lot of feedback when pressed. Unfortunately, I'm not getting the same thing on my myTouch's keyboard. It works in such a way that I put a little bit of force on the key, feel no feedback, and see the key appear in whichever text box I'm typing in.
Is this the way it was designed, or is it a hardware defect? I'd really like to know because I am getting ready to root it, and I'd rather not have a subpar phone. The keyboard is one of the main reasons I really wanted this phone, but I've now grown accustomed to typing on the screen because of how odd it is to type on the keyboard.
If it matters, I have the khaki color.
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i have a terrible time trying to type on this thing. i, also, end up using the soft keyboard and just sorta look at the trackpad and hardware keyboard as a fail-safe in case of magnetizer failure. such was the fate of my beloved hd2 (leo) twice.