[Q] Streaming System Sound from Win7 to Android - General Questions and Answers

Hey guys, after a full afternoon of searching I turn to you for help.
As the title says, I'm looking for a way to stream my Win System Sound to my SGS. Not specific media like movies or music, the entire Master Mix. Either through an App or through a Windows Server of some kind.
I already tried VLC Stream & Convert but failed miserably setting it up to capture and stream my Desktop correctly - got just the image, no sound. Also couldn't get it so stream a captured DirectShow Device, for the simple reason that my Win-VLCPlayer can't seem to find any.
Any hints on how to get it working or links on further reading are much appreciated.
manup0d

Managed to get it working, kinda.
For those interested: The problem with the DirectShow Device streaming through VLC is the original Windows7 audio driver for Sound On Board Mainboards. You have to install the Vista driver to be able to select the Stereo Mix as a Recording Device. DRM says hello. With the Vista codec you just select "Capture DirectShow" in VLC Stream & Convert and voila. (pro version is needed)
The issue now is the six second lag I get even over WiFi. XD
Have to play around with the transcoding and codec settings. Any advice or other solutions?

Hi Manup0d!
Could you give me a few pointers on how you got this working with VLC Stream & Convert?
All I get is... well, nothing. I suppose I have the same audio driver issue - where did you get the Vista driver? Or did you just download your sound card manufacturer's Vista driver set and install that?
Have you found any possibility other than VLC, by any chance?
I'd love to be able to do this, for listening to music with one of the many Winamp Remote Control apps...
-edit- Works on Windows 7 if you use "Virtual Audio Cable" as the sound device (just set it as the default device or set it as the audio device in the app you're trying to hear audio from), then run VLC Stream & Convert regularly and use "Open Input => DirectShow".
The delay really is annoying though - between 5 and 15 seconds on WiFi . Have you found a way to get rid of, or at least reduce the delay? Anything under 5 seconds would be fine

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Using AllShare

Anyone know how actually get AllShare to work? Specifically with an xbox that I am unable to configure with windows media center (as I use a mac).
I'd love to be able to play HD videos and music on my tv, but but I haven't been able to get it to work thus far.
thanks.
With the Xbox I had to be inside of the Windows Media Center tab (on the Xbox). Then instead of just "Xbox 360" popping up inside of AllShare you get "Xbox Media Center" (or similiar, not at home). Then you just share to that.
What codec/format must the videos be in. I have been trying to connect to my server running tversity and nothing seems to work. I can browse my media but when I click a video I would like to watch I just get the "Sorry, this video cannot be played"
I have a Samsung TV with AllShare on it.
I can stream my movies I ripped and put on the phone just fine (although I don't have FFWD/RWD control)
The stupid thing is it will not play the phone HD video I took. It loads the video and then locks after the first 1 sec. Its like the phone's video isn't supported by the TV.
Try Orb.com, much better solution
djgleebs said:
Anyone know how actually get AllShare to work? Specifically with an xbox that I am unable to configure with windows media center (as I use a mac).
I'd love to be able to play HD videos and music on my tv, but but I haven't been able to get it to work thus far.
thanks.
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I could only get it to work with windows media center. You can try another media app to act as a server and that might work without a PC. There is one called imedashare, try that.
You could run a virtual machine on your mac, then run windows and setup windows media center. But i don't like the way it works with media center.
Let me know if you get it to work without mediacenter.
I was able to play an AVI file stored on Windows 7 Media Center PC - but it would not play any of my recorded shows - DVR-MS or WTV.
If I have to convert them all to MP4 or AVI, i might as well just copy them over locally as Windows down converts things that are streamed.
I could stream a video I recorded on the phone back to a windows 7 PC - that was sort of cool - 720P HD looked nice.

[Q] How to play video and music on android from network share?

I can't find the answer and please believe me, I'VE SEARCHED.
I have 2 Android phones in my house (HTC Aria & Samsung Captivate)
I have an Ubuntu 10.10 desktop behind my TV with a 1TB external usb drive.
the drive has 3 shared folders (videos, music, pictures) and it's shared for everyone, full control (I know "full control" is windows talk but I'm a wintel sys admin so linux guys should know what I mean)
I have downloaded and install Astro on the phones with the SMB add on and browse to the shared folders successfully but I can't find any media apps that will let me watch, play or view any of the files across the wifi network.
It seems like for all of them (default video player and rockervideo, etc.) everything has to be on the local sd card for it to play on the phones.
Help! please?
I know Orb.com and I think it is a FANTASTIC solution (FOR WINDOWS DESKTOP PC's), but it will measure your network speed and lower the quality accordingly for slow connections. Oh yea.. and I'm using an Ubuntu desktop. So orb is out.
I just want to play the file straight from the network share.
I read someone used something called cifs to mount the network shared folder to a blank folder on the sd card. (that's a whole lot of linux talk to windows guy) Can someone explain that to me please? Is that like mapping a network drive in windows? Will that work for what I want to do?
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I have also been playing around with this. I attempted to utilize the DLNA technology but have yet to have any success. I also agree with what you said about Orb. It's decent for desktop streaming, but for our mobile devices, it just sucks.
SlyDogJeff77 said:
I read someone used something called cifs to mount the network shared folder to a blank folder on the sd card. (that's a whole lot of linux talk to windows guy) Can someone explain that to me please? Is that like mapping a network drive in windows? Will that work for what I want to do?
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yup, is like mapping a network drive (i'm a windows guy)
you need a compatible cifs.ko module for your devices, im a galaxy s user
here
here
Cifs Manager
reverendkjr said:
I have also been playing around with this. I attempted to utilize the DLNA technology but have yet to have any success. I also agree with what you said about Orb. It's decent for desktop streaming, but for our mobile devices, it just sucks.
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I've managed to get DLNA to stream MP3 via Wifi on my Milestone 2. I've installed TVersity on a server PC that's always on and pointed it at my MP3 collection (which happens to be on another PC), and the DLNA app supplied on my phone picks it up and plays the stuff just fine. Obviously, it's a bit more involved than just playing the files directly from a share, but it doesn't require any messing around with the phone.
Cheers,
Steve.
Hello guys,
I want the same thing as you, now I have 2 NAS devices in my house where I have the music and videos, but I intend to build one Low Power PC (~30W - 40W) and keep everything there and few other things too like a fax PCI card and some security camera capture card.
I was thinking on buying some cheap tablets with Android OS to be able to play the music wirelessly in any room (of course, with the help of some speakers, not the build in tablet speakers) but couldn't find until now a way to do this. Now as I found this post I installed 2Player Network Music on my wife Android Phone, to test it out. I will try to find a DLNA server, for now to install it on my Windows PC , but I want to put it in the new NAS PC I want to build, I will have a LINUX distribution installed, don't know yet which one.
For music only, did you had any problems on playing streamed music from LAN ?
Hi, ppl.
I steel haven't solution for video, but for audio I use DAAP-protocol.
For android I use http://www.appbrain.com/app/daap-media-player/org.mult.daap
A lot of DAAP solutions for windows and linux to stream audio on demand.
Hi guys again!
I have the greatest news!!!
I have found Buzz Player! It's payed app, but it works great!!!!
Moment ago I have checked it on my desire hd! It works!!!
I am going to install on galaxy tab of my wife
Good luck!
Don't know if this is much help, but there is an app called VLC direct which lets you stream from or to an android device. The video quality isn't brilliant but this could just be my rubbish router.
Noodled24 said:
Don't know if this is much help, but there is an app called VLC direct which lets you stream from or to an android device. The video quality isn't brilliant but this could just be my rubbish router.
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But you need a VLC Server. Doesn't work with a NAS.
BSPlayer Lite
I had the exact same problem. No decent player for SMB/network shares of video files. My home NAS (Synology) has no way of running the windows-only software that many of the video streaming software requires.
I recently discovered BSPlayer Lite (apparently a pro version is on the way), and it does exactly what we were looking for: plays media from a network share with no conversion or special server-side software required. It works amazingly great, and I was able to stream to my phone (HTC Thunderbolt) via my G wifi network. No stuttering or issues seen so far. It doesn't always read the subtitle information properly, but that could be my own fault somehow. I haven't tested it much, but I was able to watch several videos last night with no problems.
And the ads really aren't bad at all. I've only seen them when navigating a menu, but not while a video is playing.
Here is a link to the app, and a list of its features (I'm a new member, so excuse the funky link, as it won't let me post the full thing):
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bsplayer.bspandroid.free&hl=en
Main features:
- Hardware accelerated video playback - increases speed and reduces battery consumption*
- Support for almost all media files (video and audio player), such as: avi, divx, flv, mkv, mov, mpg, mts, mp4, m4v, rmvb, wmv, 3gp, mp3... and streaming content such as RTMP, RTSP, MMS (tcp, http), HTTP Live stream, HTTP.
- Multiple audio streams and subtitles.
- Playlist support and various playback modes.
- External and embedded subtitles ssa/ass, srt, sub...
- Find subtitles automatically (mobile data or wi-fi must be enabled to work)
- Playback media files such as videos and mp3's directly via Wi-Fi from your LAN shared drives/folders (such as external USB drives, SMB shares, PC shared folders, NAS servers (Synology and others)) - no need to convert video files and copy media files to SD card anymore!
- Playback files directly from uncompressed RAR files and much more!
This package includes support for ARMv7 with VFP and NEON. For other CPU types please download appropriate package. Application will notify you which package you need.
BSPlayer lite version is ad-supported application. Pro version without advertisements will be available soon.
works for me!
Es file explorer lets you view your lan and select servers, view files ect. play your videos and audio from there. save locations for frequent use. handy free tool
if you just want to play your video BSplayer lite will do just that, Set it lan mode and navigate through your net work.
both support user name and password protected storage
hope that helps
hi hi.. use phone can connect pc it's oke..
Thanks for your suggestions..
I will try out ES File Player and BSBPlayer
Any new programs which you can recommend?
There's an app on Google Play called Vidnal that streams audio and video from a network share - play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mu.vidnal

Streaming to the GTablet (Orb, Tversity)

I have been able to get both ORB and TVeristy to stream videos, music, pictures to my GTablet with very very good results. both have the strong points (Orb has a cleaner interface, but TVeristy has streams faster.
The secret is to setup each to use FLASH as the Stream encoder. This means you must install the FLASH APK (Search this site you will find links)
In TVeristy, you do this with
http://MyIpAddress:41952/flashlib
In Orb
You need to set the your skin to HOME THEATER. And your Streaming to FLASH.
No special Video player or other hacks needed. Should work on all MODS and well as STOCK.
In Cyanogen (Maybe in other mods), you have to click the Down Arrow the first time to Start-up FLASH.
The video quality is amazing even when tethered using my phone.
How is your luck with streaming ac3 encoded audio streams with video on tversity? I keep coming up with video and no sound. What codec pack are you using? What options did you pass to ffdshow? Tyia.
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I did not do any special configuration or change any FFSHOW settings. The only thing I cannot stream is ripped RAW DVD files.
Im using tversity on my windows home server and was running into the no sound issue with flash. I went to tversity's site and saw that for tversity to stream sound using the flashlib, the streaming computer needs to have a soundbcard installed.
I would be hard pressed to find a home computer that does not have a sound card. But good to know. My motherboard (HP) has an integrated sound card and appears to work properly. Also, remember that with the CyanogenMod, you need to use the Headphone trick or the Headphone widget to get sound working after a re-boot.
Does any one know of how to have the browsers auto-Start the Flash player?
I use Dolphin HD and when you set it up set flash to Always by default its (on demand) if you already set it up and need to change it, its in the options menu of the browser.
I have integrated sound on my computer serving tversity. What I think the problem stems from is that it is trying to pass the Facebook audio along without reencoding it. I've been trying everything I can come up with for the week trying to get around the sound issue with no luck. What codec pack are you using?
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brookfield said:
I have been able to get both ORB and TVeristy to stream videos, music, pictures to my GTablet with very very good results...
In Orb
You need to set the your skin to HOME THEATER. And your Streaming to FLASH.
No special Video player or other hacks needed. Should work on all MODS and well as STOCK.
In Cyanogen (Maybe in other mods), you have to click the Down Arrow the first time to Start-up FLASH.
The video quality is amazing even when tethered using my phone.
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Are you using the ORBLIVE app, or just using the web page?
Just the web Page. By setting it to HOME THEATER, it looks awesome. Give it a try
What do you mean "Home theater"?
I have been using the website to view.... my problem with the website is that it does not cache very well, and I get alot of pauses. AND... when it lags enough to lose the video, there is no skipping ahead, so you have to start from the beginning again. The App caches better and it easily skips ahead.

A way to stream from PC to WP7 device?

Hi all
I'd like to be able to stream videos which are on my desktop PC to my phone possibly via some server/client set-up and the wireless network. To my surprise I haven't been able to find anything in the marketplace which advertises this ability. I'd very much like it if VLC could be used as the server but that's only incidental.
Thanks
try using ORB
orb doesn't support wp7, and on their forum they said maybe in the future...
If you serve up compatible (ie MP4 or WMV) files via http to the WP7 browser then these will apparently open the Zune player on the phone and the content will stream. I have not tried this yet myself however.
What I am planning on doing this weekend though is trying out TVersity (google is your friend). From what I can see, this software runs a server that allows you to access all your media (music, photos, video etc) from phones, other PCs, media players etc. It has the major advantage of optionally converting file formats on the go.
What I'm hoping to do with this is:
1. Set up TVersity server on my home HTPC
2. Browse my media collection using the TVersity server with IE on my WP7 (this tutorial suggests this should be possible)
3. Clicking on MP4 files should play them natively with the Zune software on the phone, and other formats should be converted to MP4 on the fly by TVersity (need to look into TVersity to make sure it can actually do this!)
4. Play files
5. ???
6. Profit!
I'm going to try this with the free version of TVersity first to make sure it works as I think it does. If it does, great. If not, I'm stuck converting my AVIs to MP4 and copying them to my phone. Also try out "Send to WP7"; the latest update allows you to right-click an MP4 on your desktop and send a local link to your phone so you can stream directly over Wifi.
But really somebody should make a server / app combo for WP7 that serves up media nice and easy.
EDIT: I've actually tried the above, and it works. You can access TVersity if you're connected by Wifi with your IP address (http://192.168.1.9:4321 or whatever) and you are provided a file browser to browse all your media. Selecting a video file automatically transcoded the AVI to WMV which looks pixel perfect and very good quality (widescreen and all) on my HD7. It opens in Zune player, so all you can really do is pause / play, fast forward and rewind. No scrubbing or anything.
Positives:
-Allows you to play any AVIs / divx videos in your library without converting beforehand
-Streaming quality is perfect and smooth
-Possible to stream over the internet (3G) if you want (you can set a username and password)
Negatives:
-TVersity menu looks poor on the phone and is difficult to navigate; some text is huge while other text is tiny
-Once you start streaming a TV show / Movie, there is no way of stopping the transcoding at the server side. ie If you start watching a 40 minute 350mb show but decide after a few seconds you want to watch another one, TVersity doesn't seem to have any way of telling that you've navigated away from the show. Which means that the server computer running TVersity and doing the transcoding (which is my case is an oldish laptop in a cupboard) will continue to transcode the entire episode for the duration of the show. This has the very unwelcome side effect of almost maxing out the CPU on the server for those 40 minutes. And if you start watching another episode, that starts transcoding too... server is crippled after a while. The only way to stop transcoding is by manually restarting the TVersity service on the server, which cannot be done remotely.
In fairness the issues here are not caused by WP7, they seem to be TVersity issues. I thnk they would be easily fixed with an official TVersity browser app that would solve the navigation issues and would tell the server to stop transcoding when you quit watching a video.
On the other hand, we wouldn't have these issues if WP7 would just support AVI / divx like they promised they would originally... ;-)
I was actually tinkering with this tonight.. I was about to hit the hay when I saw this thread.. so i will chime in..
I went as far as to install a WAMP setup on my Media PC / Server. Then in my doc root I would structure my videos, mp3's photos, etc..
I did some port forwarding on my router and poked some holes in my firewall so my Media Server could listen on port 80.. so my laptop pulled server good..
I also own the HD7, and what I also confirmed was that i could hit the server from IE on the phone..and stream .wmv's successfully.. kewl..
Now all I need to do is develop a better webpage to house the content and make it look good.. possible MetroUI look.. scroll to the right or left instead of up and down.. I am also trying to include ffmpeg so I can have the functionality of the website taking a thumnail of the video upon upload and using it as the img src for the link to the video in my WP7-web-app..
Makes it even better that PHP is compiled on the server so i can do some trick things for the website..
I miss TCPMP...
Try PS3 Media Server instead of TVersity. I've found PS3 Media Server to be more welcoming to various devices (as well as being more stable).
Audio said:
Try PS3 Media Server instead of TVersity. I've found PS3 Media Server to be more welcoming to various devices (as well as being more stable).
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I already use ps3 media server for my ps3, but how can I use it with my HD7?
You could try Smart Potato. It does interact with WMC.
As far as I can recall, TwonkyMediaServer supports a load of devices as well as streaming over the interweb.
VLC PLay is available on the zune marketplace and uses VLC on pc as a host.
welki1979 said:
VLC PLay is available on the zune marketplace and uses VLC on pc as a host.
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It appears to only [optionally] stream audio. It's a controller, not an endpoint.
Why can't my Samsung Focus connect?
Hey, I just recently got TVersity and got it to work fine on my ps3...however, I am unable to connect on my wp7... I tried to go to the localhost url in IE but to no avail. Would creating a podcast of the info and adding that podcast to my Zune player work?
How did you get TVersity to output WMV??
wheresmybeaver said:
Selecting a video file automatically transcoded the AVI to WMV which looks pixel perfect and very good quality (widescreen and all) on my HD7.
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How the hell did you get the files to transcode into WMV??? I tried setting it up but it was only transcoding into MPG. What settings did you use in TVersity?
My transcoding settings are:
Only when needed
Video Resolution: 640 by 480
Image Resolution: 1280 by 1024
Use DirectShow: Windows Media Video 7
Quality
Wireless G - Connection Quality High
Decode media as fast as possible
I also set the Media Playback Device to Auto Detect. Should I change this to a different profile?
JukeFly is the best streaming app for music....
What would be nice is if they allowed VPN connections. Then i could vpn to my home network and browse to my server and use an app (yet to be created) to launch videos from my server. Did it on my android phone. Kind of miss it =(
While not an option yet, Microsofts next version of Windows Home server is going to have Windows Phone 7 integration. The next public release version that is suppose to support this functionality is rumored to come out some time in February. From using earlier builds of Vail (code-name for new version) it will do transcoding of media files and hopefully some of the issues that I experienced in the early beta versions will be resolved when the near final release is available.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/...07/windows-home-server-goes-mobile-phone.aspx
I've had some success streaming to my phone using Tversity when transcoding to WMV8, it's worked pretty well.
I'm in the process of coding up a rudimentary UI for the phone instead of using the browser.
I would be interested in your progress... also.. can you share your setup using Tversity?
I am getting slow streaming using http over WLAN.. it works.. but is choppy at times..
I've got an app with full media streaming in the works also, just need to iron out some of the transcoding issues - but with the right settings I've had flawless video (more or less) even over a normal 3G connection.
Let me get this straight..
what you guys are doing is having the video transcoded on the server as the device requests it on the fly?

[Q] Stream media from PC to Shield

It's exciting to see that people have streamed everything from supported games to unsupported games and even PS2 and GC emulators. I have yet to see any mention of streaming something like KMPlayer.
My question is can you do it in some way? I have a very extensive multiple TB collection of all sorts of videos and media, and yes I know I can always transfer things to SD card etc to watch on the shield but the ability to just be able to load up anything anywhere (Thanks to the people that setup instructions to be on outside networks over VPN) and watch my movies with no hassle or even connect it to other peoples TVs would be amazing to me.
In the past I've tried this several different ways but it was never fast enough and even when it was sometimes Soft subs wouldn't work and a no stress solution to that may be possible with the shield.
I haven't tried streaming any media players, but I have a feeling that the controls might present a challenge.
I installed Plex last though and was very impressed. I already had a Plex server running on my Synology NAS, though, so no server setup was necessary.
Plex allows you to stream local or remotely if you set up a myPlex account. If you have the PlexPass as well, you can sync shows to microSD to watch offline.
I imagine XBMC for Android should work fine and mount network drives.
XBMC works for me so far.
I'm using es file explorer and MX video player for a quick to launch streaming media setup. Setup a couple favorites in es file and way you go. From home screen to movie folder I can be there in less than 10 seconds.
I've output HDMI to large TVs and the streaming is excellent.
Well my shield should be arriving Tuesday which I'm extremely excited for. Tried XBMC on my computer and love it not sure why I've never tried this before.
Here's to hoping the audio sync is good when connecting remotely
Try Dice Player, it has SAMBA support, so just need to enter network path and password and you good to go.
I just got my shield and I tried out XBMC I'm not sure if its supposed to be this way but the controller doesn't work with the program and audio isn't being transferred to my shield.
Another problem I have with regular streaming is there seems to be a slight audio delay and I am running the latest shield update (51 i think)
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I just got my shield and I tried out XBMC I'm not sure if its supposed to be this way but the controller doesn't work with the program and audio isn't being transferred to my shield.
Another problem I have with regular streaming is there seems to be a slight audio delay and I am running the latest shield update (51 i think)
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I'm hoping xbmc will add shield controller support soon.
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What types of video files can I play on Shield?
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whatever video you can find an app to play. VLC supports most media types (video and audio including formats you probably won't come across) plus it has the most awesome beta software warning ever when you launch it.
I have 2tb WD Live setup on my network. I use the wd2go app and can stream videos from home anywhere I have internet. It works great. You can also download movies to your device then upload them to your network.
I use the Archos video player app on the Shield. Can stream anything I can throw at it from my local network

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