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Htc will probably update the Htc Hero with android 2.1 in June. The thing that really annoys me, is that there is not stable version , a part of that the real nightmare of the confusion on wich method to use without bricking the device.... moreover for the 3UK customers with Spotify is going to be a big dilemma. If I decide to root the phone and install another ROM I will certainly loose the subscription service isn't it? Is there out there some smart guy that can root my phone and install a stable 2.1 ROM with wifi, bluetooth, and the market without loosing Spotify for 50 box ?
I did'nt realise that Hero hasn't got 2.1 update yet even by now. Someone told me Hero has already got it, but it's obvious now that it is the unofficial cooked ROM he was referring to.
Are there many different methods available for rooting? Isn't there general consensus yet on which would be the safest method?
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You can check in youtube a video : How to root your Hero with one click,it will bring you the web site UnLockr.com which it will give you all the information you need. Seems to me that the GoldCard method is one of few thatis good for Hero,Once you root the phone backup the device with nandroid then is up to you to find the best ROM on the net....Vanilla and BeHero are the most avdanced and stable. if you never done it before I would recommend to buy a second hand phone and try until you get it right. Ah!! Do not forget the recovery Image....I have seen today a clear guide I will send to you if you need it.
Im just getting extremely frustrated with the 6 or 7 something tutorials i have gone through to get my Mytouch 3G Slide rooted and put Froyo onto it just leads to things not doing what they say they should be, or all the files needed will not download, or whatever. Im at the point of just giving up totally now and this is my last ditch effort to see if there is an actual easy and working method out there that someone can recommend. Anything?
Try z4root, it's supposed to have 100% device compatibility. Also, unrEVOked is a great method for HTC, but you have to have the adb drivers for htc with unrEVOked. (they come with the android sdk)
I used z4 root before it was taken off the market! Worked flawless!
I have been in the same boat with the froyo download!! Frustrating when all you read about is how great it is and how easy it was to download! I can even get mini_kies to complete downloading without getting a error message!
It has been a month and a half since bubby came out with RC2. And only 5 days since AT&T released an OTA update.
What are the odds bubby comes out with another release with the newest updates anytime soon (as in days)??
I really want to root, but pretty nervous about it.
Is there a good chance there will be other root methods coming out??
Thanks....first time android owner, trying to learn everything.
I used Bubby's root (and loved his roms when I had my Epic), but honestly, the Inspire Hack Kit is just as easy to use. Not sure why you'd wait, as any OTA update will be released by devs that day anyways.
It's just that bubby's has a nice little video to follow along with....and so far I haven't found an easy explanation on how to install the updates as they come out.
But I'm still reading and trying to understand.
The way the hack kit works now, you don't need a video, it literally walks you through each and every step with very simple terms. As for the updates, they come in new versions of the roms you install. When a new version comes out, you flash it over what you had, and you're up to date. Very simple and easy.
So after I use bubby's method and get to a rooted stock rom does anyone have a link for a stock rom and radio that has the OTA updates??
So far I have just found that attn1 has a version out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
But according to the comments it looks like he did a little custom work and some people are having problems with the radio and battery life.
rooting will not change or effect anything
S.Reno9 said:
So after I use bubby's method and get to a rooted stock rom does anyone have a link for a stock rom and radio that has the OTA updates??
So far I have just found that attn1 has a version out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
But according to the comments it looks like he did a little custom work and some people are having problems with the radio and battery life.
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I am using attn1's rooted stock w/ota since it came out, no problem here with the battery. Also you can change radios to find the best available for you. Attn1's has no custom work, it is stock rooted with the option of having unknown sources in it or not. I am using it until the Desire HD Kingdom port is out, but I always come back to one of the stock Roms. Also, I haven't paid all that close attention but I think the one click rooting does cause a few problems here and there. I have seen CWM black screen issues with that process, and HSUPA going away after flashing a radio. I used attn1's hack kit, it couldn't be any better spelled out. Plus it also gives you a little practice with ADB and flashing things using Hboot and also flashing radios. It is kind of like a little tutorial on what to do to get where you want. After doing the hack kit, I had no issues flashing radios, and working with ADB.
I would like to use the hack kit...just because it has the most recent updates, but I've read over the "effen Manual" a couple times now, and it just seems to jump all over the place....
Are there any more detailed instructions on how to use the hack kit?
Okay, I'm starting to understand the hack kit manual....I can follow the steps all the way through step 3 where I end up with a fully rooted phone with s-off.... but on a downgraded rom.
As I understand it, I can then go to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042
place the ruu zip on my sd card, reboot in hboot and it should find the zip and install the upgrade.
If this is correct, what I dont understand is one of the files in the hack kit...says romzip, inside the file is just a text document that says put-rom.zip-here.txt. Do I just ignore that file?
I appreciate the help...... if I can get a solid answer on this one, I think I'm ready to go...mayyybe.
The manual is kind of outdated at this point. The new version (11) walks you through it completely during the command prompt and new graphic interface. It's really easy to do.
Flashing various components only seems scary when you're trying to assemble every piece of information you might need before you pull the trigger. Once you just dive in, you'll see how much thought and effort the developers here put into making things work correctly. Just start doing it. If you run into trouble, more than likely your problem has been encountered and fixed by someone else already, and you just need to search some. If it's a totally new problem, there are very smart people here who will help you out. But seriously, just try it. It's easy.
I used Bubby's root kit and it was easy to use and worked flawlessly. When I first got my Inspire I told myself I'd wait a while before I rooted it, so I could experience it stock. A few days later I had it rooted and started all the fun. Just dive in and root it. If you don't like a modification you made, you can always take it back to stock.
How do I back all my stuff up? Before I root with bubbys method?
use the hack kit. I had some issues with bubby's and I'm far from the only one. The new v11 hack kit is freakishly simple. If you can't figure it out then you don't need to be rooting.
As the title says, I have the Samsung Galaxy SII Sprint's variation. I rooted my phone when it was on the version before Gingerbread EL29. I used the SuperOneClick method to root my phone and after doing that, 'Superuser' was installed on my phone. Everything was going fine until I accidentally updated my phone to Gingerbread 2.3.6 EL29 via Sprint's over-the-air update. I know it sounds dumb from me but I really knew that if I updated my phone I could mess up my root privileges, but that pop up update was showing up each 5 minutes, that in one of them I accidentally pressed 'install'. Now I have tried to unroot my phone with SuperOneClick but 'Superuser' is still there and when I access an app that requires root privileges like 'Wireless Tether' it says that my phone is not rooted. I also tried to do a factory reset and root again with 'SuperOneClick' but it freezes up (I guess it's because 'Superuser' is still there?) I was also thinking on installing a rooted rom but I don't know if I can install custom roms (I don't know if I have CWM and if it will mess up because I'm not rooted?..) Right now I just want to get the latest rooted stable release possible.. Sorry for extending myself but I wanted to give all the important details as possible as I am new in handling root phones and also in this forum. I will appreciate any help, thanks!
-James E.
Btw you might want to ask in the epic forums. You will get slot more help. I would use sfhub el29 oneclick
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follow the online tutorial guide below by qbking77...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7pWjmKCsoc
Thank you PakAttack1994! I watched the video and even though it didn't work at the first time, I was able to ask him my questions and he was able to answer them. If you want to see with the problems that I went through and his replies are on the video comments. I'm the user 'jamesssssss'
lol np, I just pointed you in the right direction. qbking77 deserves a whole heap of credit over me.
I am moving my question to a new thread here in the hope it will get more attention:
OK, Firstly, when do I need CWM?
Secondly, I have downgraded my Desire Z from Gingerbread to Frodo and obtained root, S-OFF, etc, using gfree. I know I can upgrade back to gingerbread and want to do this but only if I can do it without losing root. I've seen lots of posts saying gingerbread can't be rooted and one or two saying it can, and others that deal with the upgrade but simply don't say if root will be lost. I assume that if I just install the OTA update offered by HTC, that will undo everything I just did in downgrading and getting root. If I understand correctly, having root is mostly a property of the bootloader and its configuration, so is it possible to re-install gingerbread but without overwriting the bootloader so as to keep root? Is RUU relevant to what I am asking? I hope its OK to post this here, as my only other option seemed to be to start a new thread. Thanks, THANKS!
CWM stands for clockwork mod.It is a custom recovery that replaces the standard recovery,and has much more options than the original.The recovery is like between the bootloader and the actual OS.It allows you to install custom ROMs,partition your SD card,and lots of other stuff that can't be done within the OSor the bootloader.I don't know about your phone in particular,but most HTC'S have Gingerbreak,which allows you to root on Gingerbread,even if it is s-on(although needs an unlocked bootloader though).
Keep this thread updated.
CWM & Gingerbreak.
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CWM stands for clockwork mod.It is a custom recovery that replaces the standard recovery,and has much more options than the original.The recovery is like between the bootloader and the actual OS.It allows you to install custom ROMs,partition your SD card,and lots of other stuff that can't be done within the OSor the bootloader.I don't know about your phone in particular,but most HTC'S have Gingerbreak,which allows you to root on Gingerbread,even if it is s-on(although needs an unlocked bootloader though).
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Thanks, I will read up on Gingerbreak and see if it can help with the GB upgrade. My bootloader is unlocked and I have S-OFF, but I only heard about Gingerbreak from you. Is it a tool produced by an xda-developer?
I assume CWM is only for the OS and bootloader and I would still use my Titanium backup for Apps, or can CWM do both? On a completely stock/standard HTC phone can I use CWM first [before doing anything else] to back up the stock HTC ROM that the phone came with? [That would be great if I can!] Is it the best tool for specifically this? Thanks again.
CWM takes a Nandroid backup to your SD card,which is the OS,kernel,apps,data on internal memory,etc.It's better than Titanium backup in this regard,because even if you mess up your phone you can just revert to this backup.It's the best app I know of for this.Only drawback is that it can't operate within the OS,but even then you can use ROM manager which you'll install anyway to boot into it.I think Gingerbreak is developed by a XDA developer,that's where I saw it when I was rooting my Wildfire S.
Keeping root when updating Frodo to GBread
SunnyChrono6 said:
CWM takes a Nandroid backup to your SD card,which is the OS,kernel,apps,data on internal memory,etc.It's better than Titanium backup in this regard,because even if you mess up your phone you can just revert to this backup.It's the best app I know of for this.Only drawback is that it can't operate within the OS,but even then you can use ROM manager which you'll install anyway to boot into it.I think Gingerbreak is developed by a XDA developer,that's where I saw it when I was rooting my Wildfire S.
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Thanks again, last night I took 3 hours to search xda-developer and read what I could about Gingerbreak. Here are my conclusions which may or may not be right:
Everything I read was to do with using Gingerbreak to root a phone that already has GB running on it. As I understand it, it works for some phones running gingerbread, but not all phones. I did not read anywhere that any one has used gingerbreak to root GB on an HTC Desire Z.
I would love to hear from anyone who has tried out gingerbreak on a Desire Z. I think someone more knowledgeable than me, who knows how to get themselves out of trouble if gingerbreak doesn't work should try this. For me I think its not wise at my present level of knowledge.
There are many places in xda-developer [some even with a 2012 date] which say that a Desire Z running GB cant be rooted without downgrading to Frodo. Some of these appear to be knowledgeable developers that would have surely considered the gingerbreak oprion. So I submitt that this strongly suggests that gingerbreak doest work in this case. However it would be great to have this confirmed - perhaps from someone who has tried it.
So I return to my original question:
I know I can upgrade my Desire Z back to gingerbread and want to do this but only if I can do it without losing root. I've seen lots of posts saying gingerbread can't be rooted [on a Desire Z and some other phones] and one or two saying it can, and others that deal with the upgrade but simply don't say if root will be lost. I assume that if I just install the OTA update offered by HTC, that will undo everything I just did in downgrading and getting root. If I understand correctly, having root is mostly a property of the bootloader and its configuration, so is it possible to re-install gingerbread but without overwriting the bootloader so as to keep root? Thanks.
1)Most phones running Android 2.3.3 work(my Wildfire S worked running 2.3.5)
2)I think if it doesn't work it will just say 'Exploit failed' or something of the sort,it's highly unlikely that it would mess the phone up,and even if it did,you could just restore the nandroid backup.
3)You haven't read about Gingerbreak on the Desire Z probably because most people don't stay with the stock ROM after they root it.
And even if Gingerbreak fails,you have a s-off bootloader.So there should be loads of other ways to root it,although they may be complicated.I'd say just try your luck,take a nandroid backup if you're scared,and try Gingerbreak.There's an 80+% chance that it will work,as the desire z runs 2.3.3 AFAIK.
A better idea would be to root, s-off, unlock bootloader at whatever (so in your situation froyo), then flash CWM, and finally flash a ROM. There's a 99% chance somebody made a working ICS ROM for the desire z which was a very popular phone
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gagdude said:
A better idea would be to root, s-off, unlock bootloader at whatever (so in your situation froyo), then flash CWM, and finally flash a ROM. There's a 99% chance somebody made a working ICS ROM for the desire z which was a very popular phone
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Good point,but I think he wants to upgrade to the stock GB.....otherwise why does he need to root it again,as there are MANY gingerbread custom ROMs,let alone ICS.If he wanted to do that,it would be easy for him as he already has s-off and root now all he would need is CWM and a good ROM.
Keeping root when updating Frodo to GBread or choosing a good rooted ROM
Thanks for all your replies. OK here is where I;m at: I have 2 phones, the Desire Z and the MT4G slide. They were both running stock GB unrooted when I got them. I have downgraded the Desire Z to Frodo to get root and S-OFF having read that was the only way to root it. But I would like something later than Frodo [or GB] as long as I can keep root and it is more functional. I have been searching xda for nearly 4 weeks to see if there are any ROMs with full functionality for these phones. A ROM based on ICS or JB would be great, but in every case that I look into I run into problems. Some have issues with camera or video not working, some with leds or the keyboard back light. One says the audio doesn't work. Other ROMs sound really good but they don't explicitly state they work for either of my phones. As all these things work with GB I don't want to go to ICS/JB if it means I'm loosing functionality. It is only for this reason that I asked about returning to GB for the Desire Z whilst keeping root. Root is essential to me as I have a lot of plans that involve running SSH, Telnet, VNC, etc. There seem to be some great ROMs out there for the MT4G but I am told that my MT4GS is completely different and they wont work on it.
Part of my problem is I don't always understand what I'm reading because of terminology. There are references for example to the Glacier or the Sensation, but I haven't yet worked out whether a MT4GS is the same as Glacier or if Glacier refers only to MT4G, in which case does MT4GS have another nickname? I searched the WIKI for HTC phones, but the MT4GS isn't even listed there.
I'm new to Mob phones and Android, but have been programming and a Linux user for a very long time, which has taught me to be cautious and research well before jumping in. Hence my posts for advice / help here. There's nothing better than finding someone who has done it before who can tell you how successful it was. Appreciate any light you can bring even to just one of these matters. Thanks.
HTC mytouch 4g is glacier. HTC mytouch 4g slide is the doubleshot.
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canopic said:
Thanks for all your replies. OK here is where I;m at: I have 2 phones, the Desire Z and the MT4G slide. They were both running stock GB unrooted when I got them. I have downgraded the Desire Z to Frodo to get root and S-OFF having read that was the only way to root it. But I would like something later than Frodo [or GB] as long as I can keep root and it is more functional. I have been searching xda for nearly 4 weeks to see if there are any ROMs with full functionality for these phones. A ROM based on ICS or JB would be great, but in every case that I look into I run into problems. Some have issues with camera or video not working, some with leds or the keyboard back light. One says the audio doesn't work. Other ROMs sound really good but they don't explicitly state they work for either of my phones. As all these things work with GB I don't want to go to ICS/JB if it means I'm loosing functionality. It is only for this reason that I asked about returning to GB for the Desire Z whilst keeping root. Root is essential to me as I have a lot of plans that involve running SSH, Telnet, VNC, etc. There seem to be some great ROMs out there for the MT4G but I am told that my MT4GS is completely different and they wont work on it.
Part of my problem is I don't always understand what I'm reading because of terminology. There are references for example to the Glacier or the Sensation, but I haven't yet worked out whether a MT4GS is the same as Glacier or if Glacier refers only to MT4G, in which case does MT4GS have another nickname? I searched the WIKI for HTC phones, but the MT4GS isn't even listed there.
I'm new to Mob phones and Android, but have been programming and a Linux user for a very long time, which has taught me to be cautious and research well before jumping in. Hence my posts for advice / help here. There's nothing better than finding someone who has done it before who can tell you how successful it was. Appreciate any light you can bring even to just one of these matters. Thanks.
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You're right,ICS and JB ROMs aren't too stable,although the cyanogen mod alpha 6 for the doubleshot seems kind of stable,look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644084
(Take a nandroid backup of gingerbread though,in case you come to a time where you can't take any risks with your phone)
EDIT : CM9 is listed as stable here in the cm download centre http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=&type=stable
And for the desire Z, there seem to be stable cm7 ROMs.Just take a nandroid backup of froyo,you can't go wrong with that.
(P.S.You probably saw these already,but just in case you didn't.)