Archos Internet Tablet 70 is out! - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Anyone else REALLY want one of these for christmas? The Toshiba Folio 100 looks like a disaster from what I have read, but this thing really looks like it might have got it right.
Any opinions/reviews/comments?
Archos Internet Tablet 70
Zeb

There's a few reviews out and about on the net, and over at archosfans forums they've got some posts on getting full Market access enabled. I just ordered mine today

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There's a few reviews out and about on the net, and over at archosfans forums they've got some posts on getting full Market access enabled. I just ordered mine today
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Let me know how you find it once it arrives! I'm not one of these people that can afford to throw money at gadgets, so I need to make sure I buy the right device and either the archos 70 or the 101 look great to me. The Toshiba folio 100 looks to be a flop from what I have read, and many others are very cheap devices with resistive screens and other issues. Hoping this one hits the mark!
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I've had the A70 for a couple of weeks now and I think it's great for the price. It's not perfect, but I got it for about $260 shipped. I'm primarily going to be using it for entertainment (and for entertaining my kid). It plays movies and music over my home network right out of the box. It was simple to get android market running on it. The soft buttons can be a little annoying, but not a dealbreaker. Biggest complaint is that it doesn't have froyo yet, but from what I hear that should be out soon.

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Archos Tablets?

Any plans for a section for those?
i think they have potential and my store already has the 70 and 101 in stock ready to go on sale.
i might be getting both.
just wondering if there is any interest on here to make those tablets woork their money's worth
Archos has proven them self with great products so far. I was thinking about getting the 101 but have found something else that I like a little better. Still not POSITIVE on not getting the 101 though. Would like to see an Archos section here also. There seems to be a community out there for them after watching a lot of youtube vids about some of the products (even the older products). Just wondering, where do you work exactly? I've been watching the Archos website for about a month or so and they still do not have the 101 or 70 ready to ship.
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Archos has proven them self with great products so far. I was thinking about getting the 101 but have found something else that I like a little better. Still not POSITIVE on not getting the 101 though. Would like to see an Archos section here also. There seems to be a community out there for them after watching a lot of youtube vids about some of the products (even the older products). Just wondering, where do you work exactly? I've been watching the Archos website for about a month or so and they still do not have the 101 or 70 ready to ship.
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yeah, i've been following the website also and it still does not have them ready to ship.
i work at office depot and we have both the 70 and 101 in store ready to display.
we'll most likely put them up after black friday most likely by sunday. i am guessing every office depot has it in stock also. i'll post on here as soon as they come out on the shelves.
may i ask what you found that you liked?
i'm also considering something to adapt in my car in place of my regular head unit.
i was looking at the galaxy tab but not very impressed with the pricing.
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yeah, i've been following the website also and it still does not have them ready to ship.
i work at office depot and we have both the 70 and 101 in store ready to display.
we'll most likely put them up after black friday most likely by sunday. i am guessing every office depot has it in stock also. i'll post on here as soon as they come out on the shelves.
may i ask what you found that you liked?
i'm also considering something to adapt in my car in place of my regular head unit.
i was looking at the galaxy tab but not very impressed with the pricing.
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What part of the country do you live in? I'm in the south now and things seem to get here a little later than other places, if it all.
I found this and I've done some checking on the website itself to make sure everything was was the 'up and up' with them, they seem good.
http://www.merimobiles.com/M10_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_1GHz_Capacitive_3G_p/meri0533.htm
It doesn't have the camera on it BUT I like that the screen is 4:3 like the IPad instead of the wide screen like the 101. I miss my IPad but what I really liked about it was the casing, it just felt good in my hands. I'm leaning more towards this tablet because of the IPad like casing and slightly better viewing area (in my opinion)
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What part of the country do you live in? I'm in the south now and things seem to get here a little later than other places, if it all.
I found this and I've done some checking on the website itself to make sure everything was was the 'up and up' with them, they seem good.
http://www.merimobiles.com/M10_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_1GHz_Capacitive_3G_p/meri0533.htm
It doesn't have the camera on it BUT I like that the screen is 4:3 like the IPad instead of the wide screen like the 101. I miss my IPad but what I really liked about it was the casing, it just felt good in my hands. I'm leaning more towards this tablet because of the IPad like casing and slightly better viewing area (in my opinion)
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i'm in texas.
that merimobile product looks promising with the multitouch and 1080p but other than that i'll be quite skeptical.
the reviews seem more like a question and answer session.
sounds like one guy trying to import a product from taiwan and sell over here.
and those people asking about 3g dont seem to realize that most service providers operate on different 3g frequencies.
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i'm in texas.
that merimobile product looks promising with the multitouch and 1080p but other than that i'll be quite skeptical.
the reviews seem more like a question and answer session.
sounds like one guy trying to import a product from taiwan and sell over here.
and those people asking about 3g dont seem to realize that most service providers operate on different 3g frequencies.
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Yeah all of the "reviews" so far are just idiots that are asking stupid questions about it. It's not even been shipped yet..lol. Just preorder for now much like a lot of the other tablets. I've called and talked to their customer service a few times. They are based in Canada and do sell the "lower end" products I guess you would say. I'm still not sure that I'm going to be getting this tablet though. The Archos 101 has a lot that I want in a tablet (capacitive touch is a BIG for me) and if they are going to be in stock in Office Depot, that could seal the deal for me.
I just had my manager open our lockup so I can see them as he's an android fan himeself, turns out what we have is the viewsonic 10" and the archos 7 home (instead of archos 70 internet).
I'm pretty bummed. Back to stalking the archos website for ship date for me.
I just checked the Archos site and the 70 is actually available now (no more "notify me", instead they have "add to cart") wish I could say the same for the 10. Looks like we are going to waiting a while longer on that one. This is the second time I've seen the 70 available though. It only stayed that way around 20 hours last time.

Looking for unbiased opinions on G tab, in the G tab forum lol

So my situation, I was fortunate to earn a free ipad wifi/3g 16gb from a sales contest at work, well Ive played with the thing for a few weeks and I have to say apple blows. Anyways gunna sell it on ebay, looking like I can get about $450 for it.
I then want to take the money and buy an android tablet, i really want a honeycomb one, but I know they are very expensive as they are just coming out.
So I thought to myself why couldn't I just buy a tablet that comes with Froyo, and then root it, and flash a custom honeycomb rom once a developer ports it over to my device..? It would save me alot of cash/waiting.
So I'm assuming all the G tab owners did some shopping around before buying this tablet. What are the top 3 android tablets under $450 in your opinion?
Obviously another concern is which tablet under $450 will be likely to have the most developer support, being the flashaholic that I am, I really want something that has many roms and kernels etc.. availiable. I did see quite a few roms in the G tab development section, but I am finding it very difficult to find out information about other tablets as far as rom development. What do you guys thing from a developer support stand point?
Thanks!!!!
Under $450 and that are out now tablets....
If you're just looking for a tablet to browse the internet, casual gaming, youtube..you know basic stuff...you can save about $100 by buying a nook. Lots of dev support...I mean lots.
If you want something more powerful with a bigger screen but weaker viewing angles than the gtab is tops in my opinion. If you don't mind a used gtab...than I would grab one if you can find it.
As for a third choice, I guess I would get the archos 70 or 101.
Awesome thanks.
I personally wouldn't get a nook. I had one and ended up trading it for an archos 101. From what it looks like there is more development for the GTab. The nook is a nice device but I really didn't think the device was speedy enough for me. If I'm getting a tablet then it should have better specs then my phone (Nexus S). Screen on the Nook was nice but I've always wanted a bigger tab. I like my archos 101 but then again the processor was good but I felt it could be better. I just sold my archos a few days ago on here and ordered a GTab and it'll be here tomorrow. Nook is $250 new and GTab cost me $368, with the GTab you may be getting a worse screen but you get more internal storage, better processor, bluetooth, IMO better dev support, and a USB port which I personally want. I've also had a Galaxy Tab but when I had it development was slow so I got rid of it also again it has the same specs as my phone. IMO theres no point in a tablet that has equal or worse specs then your phone (unless you have a dual core phone) and after experience 7inch screens are good for reading and comics but 10.1inch screens are better for web browsing and even better for reading and comics
Had my gtab for about 2 weeks now that I bout from another user here on xda for $320. Prior to the purchase I had been following the forums and watching youtub videos of the device and drooling. Now that I have it, I feel I may have hyped it a bit too much. It is a good device but there are a few things about it that bother me but to be fair I was expecting some of them. the screen is as bad as they say. This device is pretty hefty. Holding it in can be tiresome at times. The bezel is thin on three sides, one of which also has capacitive buttons which makes it hard to find a comfortable way to hold it at times unless you are using both hands. No gps. As for the roms, as good as they are they are far from perfect. They each have their own issues which were easy to ignore at first but after a while i find to be annoying when you want something that just works. I appreciate the devs though and I'm sure in time they will figure everything out. After trying a xoom at frys the other day I can honestly say they know what a tablet should be like. I just wish it wasn't an extra 500 bucks.
BuI shopped arround for a good while. I have been using resistive screen tablet PC's in my work for years, and hated them. Ugly screens tedious repeated touches to get anywhere. Call me crazy but I really believe that anyone who complains about the screen on the gtab needs to take a reality check. This thing has better viewing angles than my android phone. What do you want to do with it? Rest it on your coffee table and sit 10 feet away at a 45° angle and expect perfect color? Yes there are nicer screens out there but IMHO this is way better than the crap I have seen for years. I'm sure it would have had a super top of the line screen too if Malta could have gotten screens from LG at nearly cost like apple does.
The price is perfect and the screen is perfect for the price. Enjoy the fact that no one will see what's on your screen unless you want them to. Its a security feature in my book.
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Mantara said:
BuI shopped arround for a good while. I have been using resistive screen tablet PC's in my work for years, and hated them. Ugly screens tedious repeated touches to get anywhere. Call me crazy but I really believe that anyone who complains about the screen on the gtab needs to take a reality check. This thing has better viewing angles than my android phone. What do you want to do with it? Rest it on your coffee table and sit 10 feet away at a 45° angle and expect perfect color? Yes there are nicer screens out there but IMHO this is way better than the crap I have seen for years. I'm sure it would have had a super top of the line screen too if Malta could have gotten screens from LG at nearly cost like apple does.
The price is perfect and the screen is perfect for the price. Enjoy the fact that no one will see what's on your screen unless you want them to. Its a security feature in my book.
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^^^^Yeah This. I waited a week for mine to come from the good ol' US of A (Im in oztralia )
After reading all the reports.. bad screens, slow stock UI etc I thought ok, well the screen is probably as bad as they say and the UI cant be that bad...
well it was exactly opposite - the screen is actually not that bad compared to some screens i deal with daily. UI was even worse than I could have imagined.
I know have vegan on it and it rocks. For the price I am absolutely blown away.
You can not go wrong with the g-Tab. Especially since you stated that you are a "Flashaholic." I have had mine for almost 2 months now and absolutely love it. I have tried both the vegan and TNT-Lite roms, and ended up staying with the TNT-Lite. While there are many things that could have been implemented better, in my mind it is a better value right now than the competition. I love the fact that it has removable storage. I have a little case that I keep my micro-SD cards in and swap them out whenever I want to watch something else or need more storage. Since purchasing this product, I have taken it with me on several business trips, and have found it indispensable. I can even back my photos up onto it using an SD card reader.
Bottom Line: If you do not mind playing around and fiddling with settings and enjoy trying new things, then I suggest getting the g-Tab. Over wise I suggest waiting a little longer until the "Tablet Form Factor" becomes more settled.
Just a note on the Notion Ink Adam which falls into the sub $450 category (wifi LCD version, anyways). I received hoping to get better viewing angles but they seemed to be the same as the Gtab, plus I really like the Gtab's form factor a lot more. The Adam was heavier, thicker and more squared off making it not as comfortable to hold as the Gtab. I ebayed the Adam and actually turned a little profit from it
Great info guys! Thanks to everyone who replied, all very helpful!
I got several buyers for my ipad so it should be gone today
I think the g tab sounds like it will do what I want, it really will just be for playing games, web browsing, and taking on airplanes etc, so it sounds like the way to go. And hopefully honeycomb roms will be available before too long!
Follow up question, where can you get a good case for the g tab? I liked the one that I bought my ipad, it was kind of like a little padfolio and it could fold into a "stand" which was great for watching movies on the plane.
Other than that just gotta research rooting this thing, I plan to pick one up before the end of the weekend. And you guys have already given me some ideas which roms to try. Thanks!
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Follow up question, where can you get a good case for the g tab? I liked the one that I bought my ipad, it was kind of like a little padfolio and it could fold into a "stand" which was great for watching movies on the plane.
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Check the G Tablet Accessories forum, there are a couple of options depending whether you want a keyboard or not and at least one more on the way
Alright just a couple more for the helpful people here
1. is this the best way to root the g tab? http://droidpirate.com/2010/11/27/how-to-root-your-viewsonic-g-tablet/
2. After I root I will be following the instructions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
So I was wondering if I had to update anything in order to flash custom roms, or can I just root my tab, and then follow the instructions on that thread and be good to go on custom roms?
Also what ROM would you guys recomend? I am typically an AOSP guy assuming that everything is functional, but my wife will be using this tablet too and she is not very tech savvy, so I would like a rom that is pretty stable, any suggestions would be apprecited thanks!
Also I see clockwork v08 seems to be the hot ticket, so I assume that I will use that? I have always used Amon RA on my EVO, but it doesnt appear that Amon RA is availiable for the G tab, is that a correct assumption?
Thanks again for all the help, I know those last few questions arent necessarily pertinent to my original post, but I appreciate the help.
All the instructions you need to root the device are in the second thread you linked -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
Just pick out a ROM - TNTLite and VEGAn are the two most popular around here - and follow the instructions carefully.
perfect thanks, guess I should've read this line from that thread
"You do NOT need to root your tablet to install a ROM on this device using this guide. All the after-market ROMs are pre-rooted."
LMAO!! haha cool.
Just a little update, I got my GTab today and love it sooooooooo much. Viewing angles aren't to bad. Monster Madness, Samurai II, and Backbreaker are awesome. Very fast device
Awesome I can't wait, should have mine before Monday
Wi-Fi only Motorola Xoom at Sam's Club
I think the gTab is the best bang for your buck at between $350 and $400 especially with the ROMs our gTabDevs are churning out for us. However, if you really want an official Honeycomb tablet I've read that Sam's Club will be selling these at their stores for around $500 each in the next few weeks.
Just thought some folks might want to know.
I am sticking with my Nook Color
After having received the Archos 101. I was disappointed in the screen quality and the touch screen and lack of dev support. I sold it and got the g tablet and was in love with it until I bought my mom a kindle and started to like the form factor and size. I then started becoming bored with my g tablet. I then began looking at the nook color forums and decided to buy one, since I have bought it, I haven't touched my g tablet. I really like the size and the feel of it, I read more now and still play the games I like. I am happy running CM7 gingerbread and looking forward to honeycomb when it comes out as AOSP.
The dirty little secret is that there is no day to day life changing use for a tablet. So this can put you in two categories.
#1. You want to try and use the tablet during travel and such. In this case form factor is going to be important. The Nook Color is probably a better option as you sacrifice overall performance for the usability of the design.
#2. You want a device to develop on and try to utilize the latest and greatest. The Tegra 2 is the "it" platform right now for the android tablets. The GTab and its brothers give you the best entry into this field.
I am solidly in #2. Sure I have played some games on my tablet, I have browsed the web and I have used it on the go. But there has never been a situation where my VZ Droid would not have let me do the exact same thing.
I am comfortable with the fact that I bought a development platform. Having it in hand shows me the potential of the concept.
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The dirty little secret is that there is no day to day life changing use for a tablet. So this can put you in two categories.
#1. You want to try and use the tablet during travel and such. In this case form factor is going to be important. The Nook Color is probably a better option as you sacrifice overall performance for the usability of the design.
#2. You want a device to develop on and try to utilize the latest and greatest. The Tegra 2 is the "it" platform right now for the android tablets. The GTab and its brothers give you the best entry into this field.
I am solidly in #2. Sure I have played some games on my tablet, I have browsed the web and I have used it on the go. But there has never been a situation where my VZ Droid would not have let me do the exact same thing.
I am comfortable with the fact that I bought a development platform. Having it in hand shows me the potential of the concept.
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Excellent post, and i'm in catoegory #2 as well, I'm playing with house money becuase I got the ipad for free. But my wife really wants something to play games with and I like to watch movies etc on the airplane as well as browse the etc at home.

[Q] What should I choose? Archos 80 G9 or ASUS Transformer?

Hello guys,
I am planning to get an Android tablet somewhere in the fourth quarter of this year (Christmas most likely).
I wanna originally wait for ASUS Transformer with the 3G....but...just this morning I found a new tablet from Archos which called Archos 80 G9.
www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
If I look at the price, I tend to choose Archos but ...I wanna know what you guys think first before deciding....I know, I know.... it is still quite some time till Christmas but I am too excited (My pocket must wait till Christmas, that is the problem)...
aaa said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to get an Android tablet somewhere in the fourth quarter of this year (Christmas most likely).
I wanna originally wait for ASUS Transformer with the 3G....but...just this morning I found a new tablet from Archos which called Archos 80 G9.
www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
If I look at the price, I tend to choose Archos but ...I wanna know what you guys think first before deciding....I know, I know.... it is still quite some time till Christmas but I am too excited (My pocket must wait till Christmas, that is the problem)...
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Hey, I also just discovered this tablet and I have the same questions. The specs on this tablet sound too good to be true. And the price is ridiculous. I done some reading, and only main issue some people have is Archos record of durability. $280 is not a bad gamble if you have 1 year warranty.
My only other question is how much ram? I can't find that anywhere. If it's 1 gig, I think I'm sold.
Archos has historically used components that seem great on paper, but are sub par in quality. For example, they may claim to have an equivalent resolution screen, but chances are it is from a very cheap manufacturer, and performs at significantly lower levels (bad viewing angles, bad refresh rate, low brightness, etc). This "Equal in name, not performance" phenomenon seems to plague most of their products. It is not surprising that their component quality is lower given the price point.
However, it is 100% possible that this represents a complete shift from their previous trends. I recommend waiting for reviews from places like Gizmodo and This Is My Next before you pull the trigger either way.
@Animus_3.0 : Yes the RAM is 1 GB and here where I live, I usually get 2 years warranty for almost everything I bought, so I believe it will have the same 2 years warranty too.
@BananaPhone69 : That is what I am afraid of with such a price for such specs, bad quality product. I agree, it is still better to wait for the review.
BTW: If anyone has some experience using Archos products especially the previous tablets, please do share your experience...This 80 G9 could be my first Archos device ever.
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@Animus_3.0 : Yes the RAM is 1 GB and here where I live, I usually get 2 years warranty for almost everything I bought, so I believe it will have the same 2 years warranty too.
@BananaPhone69 : That is what I am afraid of with such a price for such specs, bad quality product. I agree, it is still better to wait for the review.
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Thanks aaa and Banana. Just a matter of waiting for reviews and a chance to play with them in the stores. I want to see the display quality, the overall build and how responsive it is.
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Guys, some hands on from Slashgear.
http://www.slashgear.com/archos-80-g9-and-101-g9-tablets-hands-on-video-28161817/
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Been looking into these new archos tablets myself
From the story I read, some ship with 1gig ram some ship with half a gig, so i'd make sure you get one that has the gig
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The screen is made of plastic not ape glass, this could be an advantage since it is lighter and won't brake so easily but it could also be a disanvantage since it can be scratched easily.
Hmmm....according to the preview on slashgear, the UI is not so smooth and the apps crash very often...this could be a big down side, if those bugs can also be found after release.. I hope they can fix them.
About the different RAM versions, I will just have to take a better look before buying.... man the price is really tempting
Hm... I was almost sold on a Viewpad 10s for its great community support and tempting price of 249EUR inkl. docking station and then discovered the Archos 101 G9 having the following advantages over the Advent Vega/Viewpad/Mobii units:
- way better CPU (+0.5GHz, NEON)
- more RAM (+512MB)
- more vertical resolution (800 instead of 600px, I don't like widescreen at all but 800 is a big improvement for me over 600px)
- easy and affordable 3G upgrade which also serves as a 3G USB modem for laptops
- probably better build quality (according to comparative reviews of the 101 and the Viewpad 10s)
- better viewing angles (according to hands on previews on youtube)
- Honeycomb included, no need to void warranty with custom ROMs
- built-in stand, no docking station needed to carry around when on the way
The only I concern I have atm: how stable will the stock OS be and will there be improved custom ROMs...
Opinions?
Yes. I also want to know how is the OS stability and smoothness of Archos 80 G9..and also Archos tablets/products durability in general, because I have never had any Archos products until now.
I am hoping someone in this forum can say several words regarding the durability first, since the G9 is not yet available in the market and no one has really tested it.
so...I could really use your comment on the durability term, based on your previous Archos experiences...please
You'll find a G9 discussion with great infos here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137524
Thank you for the info. I will check your link right away.
aaa said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to get an Android tablet somewhere in the fourth quarter of this year (Christmas most likely).
I wanna originally wait for ASUS Transformer with the 3G....but...just this morning I found a new tablet from Archos which called Archos 80 G9.
www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
If I look at the price, I tend to choose Archos but ...I wanna know what you guys think first before deciding....I know, I know.... it is still quite some time till Christmas but I am too excited (My pocket must wait till Christmas, that is the problem)...
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I've had the Archos 80 G9 for a week now and am loving it. Value for money it is excellent, the Honeycomb UI is sleek and responsive and I haven't really had any problems with it. Battery life is excellent.
I particularly like the size, it is great for two thumb typing when in portrait mode.
Here are some images of the Archos 80 G9 next to an iPad 2 to give you an idea of the size: http://www.todoleo.com/2011/10/archos-80-g9-with-apple-ipad-2.html
Feel free to ask any more questions.
Wait for the new tegra3 transformer prime instead
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I've had the Archos 80 G9 for a week now and am loving it. Value for money it is excellent, the Honeycomb UI is sleek and responsive and I haven't really had any problems with it. Battery life is excellent.
I particularly like the size, it is great for two thumb typing when in portrait mode.
Here are some images of the Archos 80 G9 next to an iPad 2 to give you an idea of the size: http://www.todoleo.com/2011/10/archos-80-g9-with-apple-ipad-2.html
Feel free to ask any more questions.
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Can you play downloaded 720p MKVs? My Asus transfer could not without re-encoding. I have a Nook Color and had an Asus Transformer. 7" was to small for an everyday tablet and 10" was too big to read in bed at night. Im thinking a 8 or 9" might be better.
I bought a 80G9 Turbo with HDD, and I think I love it.
I put a lot of books and videos on the HDD. I always take it with me when I go on holidays.
It's not the last product, but, I think, a very very good product.
Also you can attach a Harddisk or an external Wired Network adapter to the 3G usb-port on the rear. I used this during trade shows.

[Q] Is it worth it?

hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap? it's off brand for things i buy usually, but I've seen generally good reviews. I've also been looking at the Transformer and the Xoom. Thank you all for the help.
considering that you can get one on Ebay for under $250, I would say yes, it's most definitely worth it.
Even with Froyo roms, it's a very useful tablet that will probably do the things that you want it to do. Yes, the screen angles are not ideal, but they are acceptable (in my opinion)
Put it this way, is buying a transformer, or Xoom for almost twice as much going to be just as useless when the newest tablets come out for Christmas?
I believe that it's a question of perception. What do you want to use it for?
and who knows, when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released, it may be easier to port to the G-Tablet than Honeycomb.
Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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Wow. Very excellent explanation. I see now. Yes I will probably soon be purchasing the g tab!
PS: screw the ipad
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gobluewolverines4 said:
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this).
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Honeycomb is not completely functional on the gtab (as of now). It is missing the Honeycomb specific drivers from Nvidia (aka full hardware acceleration, high def video).
If you really care about Honeycomb you should get the transformer IMO.
Although, I am quite happy with froyo based ROMs
Others are right in saying that quad core Tegra 3s are around the corner, Tegra 2 prices might drop by the end of the year. Given how Nvidia and Viewsonic acted regarding the gtab, I foresee support for Tegra 2s dropping drastically as newer hardware gets released.
Yeah the almost fully functioning honeycomb on here is fine for me. Should be ordering my g tab this week!
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Hello, I wrote a quick review for some guys that I work with. I am sure there are many reviews of the gtablet, but...
Here are my conclusions so far;
This thing is about the same size as the Xoom, and thicker than the IPAD. It is definitely not as sexy.
The screen is OK. It is not a high quality screen like you find on the other devices.
The processor is great, and the memory is sufficient. Things move pretty quick.
The ROM out of the box REALLY sucked. I was hoping to just deal with it, but Google had not approved the tablet so there were NO Google apps at all. Not acceptable. It took me a couple of hours to learn (last night till around 1:00am), but I replaced the stock ROM with a hacked ROM with everything I wanted.
This thing is really just a big Android phone with no phone or GPS.
I loaded up my Sony Reader software, downloaded all of my books, and then imported them into a DRM capable reader that is better.
Although there are some ROMs that support Gingerbread screens, I think I will stick with this 2.2 (or is it 2.3) Android feel.
What will I use it for?
Reading ebooks, PDFs (Scientific American, Maximum PC)
Google apps – maps, search
Kayak, hotels.com apps
Games (mostly for the kids) – I got Android Market to work
Web Browsing / some forum reading (via Tapatalk)
Personal email reading and contacts (no work email will be set up)
Maybe occasional Skype and Gotomeeting (camera sucks, so mostly audio)
News and weather
Of course, with the exception of reading the ebooks, I would always use the Macbook Pro if it were available.
So the speed and memory makes this all possible, but the experience (screen, size, build) is not equivalent to the expensive tablets.
Biggest complaints?
No GPS
Screen is not easy to see at an angle
I needed to root the thing to make it useful, which means I now need to stay on top of that and update it manually
The 10.1 device is a bit bigger / bulkier than I expected – the weight is the same as the ipad I believe.
I “can” watch videos on it (even 1080p), but moving the files would be a drag… it uses a microSD card that I would need to pop ion an adapter, or I could use the USB connection. Maybe I can find a way to do it with wifi or Bluetooth.
No USB charging… WTF??? It comes with a separate adapter that has to plug into the wall…
The screen is a 1024x600 which is similar to most pads, but it is really inferior to the Macbook Pro, and there is just something that is “fuzzy” about it.
Biggest positives?
Cheap - $269 delivered (no tax or shipping)
Fast
Should do what I want…
Next Steps…
See how much I actually use it for anything other than ebooks. If I do end up needing it more than I think, I would consider the Asus Transformer or something else new in the next year or so.
Hope this helps,
R
gobluewolverines4 said:
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap?
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The screen is complete crap.
You should look hard for something with a better screen around $300-$350. If you can find it, get it.
And I *like* my Gtab - but its really just for kicking around and messing with roms and android. The screen really is killer bad unless you use it only at night, head on
Honeycomb works, and works well, as well as you could hope for unsupported xda rom hacking - ie, no netflix, no Hardware acceleration, occasional stand on your head workarounds, and the possibility of sudden death... well, ok, not that last one.
Bottom line: if you can find it for $100-$200, and want to play with roms, and tweak, and screw with it a lot to get it to be as good as a $400 one except for the horrible screen that cannot be fixed, YES, this is your tablet.
If you want a tablet to take out of the box and use, with rom updates from the manufacturer, and a screen you can read ebooks off of, this is NOT your tablet. Even for free.
So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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So should I just get the transformer?
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For $400, I'd say yeah.
Better screen, 1Kx800 resolution, 2x the ram. Yeah, looks like that's all worth $120.
Oh... and a GPS too.
Oh, and Honeycomb 3.1 from Asus. Plus lots of XDA love it seems.
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So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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I think the main question is what you want the tablet for or what to do with it.
A cheap $250-300 laptop has so much more computing power and practical use than any tablet...just a bit bulkier.
The tablet market will have much more offerings and better with faster cpus and such..just have to wait a bit.
I bought my gtab from woot 4/2011 for $275. I have installed several ROMs on it. They all are pretty good with their own pluses and minuses.
I'm currently on Flashback 5.4 HC: it looks nice and works well. Gmail, Talk - w/o video; G-Voice, Maps, Lattitude, Earth etc all work. You Tube works; a bunch of games works. The big screen is better than the phone size screen. Nice quick weather apps. Nice calendar.
What it cannot do is replace the screen and functionality of my desktop for real work.
If you can find a cheap Gtab and play with ROM's, flashing, androids quirks etc - jsut for the fun of it, then get a gtab. Fully flashable with great recovery process. Almost 99.99% Non-brickable. Get a used one for play and test.
If you want a decent a functional tablet w/o hassle, get an I-pad2.
I have read many complaints about the viewing angle of the screen, but I have had my tablet for months and I have no complaints. It has replaced my planner for work and is great for watching movies, not sharing with my neighbor.

Kinda want a tablet?

Also kinda worried it will be a dust catcher..
I really enjoyed playing with the flyer which is out of stock now..
I've been thinking about the Kindle fire, Nook Tab and acer a100.. The fire and tab will probably both have insanely good dev support.. the A100 is suppose to get ICS next month..
When tablets came out (particularly at 500$+) I saw them as nothing more than a waste of money.
How that they are in the sub 300 range I must admit I'm intrigued by them and they finally seem sort of worth it particularly to read a book in digital format, check a few emails and for general "time wasting" purposes like facebook.
I am just kind of worried if I end up getting one it will end up collecting dust more than anything.. I like to think I would end up reading lots of manga and comics along with other books.. Somewhere besides at a computer desk...
However, I'm also hesitant to pop out that much on a potentially dust collecting item.
So I gotta ask.. how long have y'all had your tablets? do you still use them regularly? Do yo frequently find yourself wasting time on the tablet trying to do things a real keyboard is better suited for?
I have a mini tablet(Galaxy Player 5) and I barely use it. I usually prefer using my phone, but I use the galaxy player to watch videos or slight browsing. It really depends on what you will use the tablet for. For your purpose like reading a tablet like the kindle fire will be nice. If you think you will use the tablet a lot then get it. If not then find alternatives.
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I'm also enjoying my rooted HTC Flyer, but I do worry of the coming dev support for it considering it's looking like there's gonna be no new ones in the future.
Imho android tablets aren't very mature right now...the transformer prime seems to be a different story tho, but it's definitely not within 300$
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IDK ,
For work I have an iPad 2 3g .. which ya is a dust collector for me .. and stays at work and hoping to hand it in after an MDM project I am working on for some sort of Andriod tablet .
Have also had a BB Playbook for testing at work and I think the 7 inch profile is nice .. but the PB is not ... what a useless POS still not worth the $199 they where clearing them out for .
Personally , I have a Dell streak 5" and it's ntb .. but kinda wonky hardware wise ..
Zar
I am looking at getting the Pandigital Novel 7. It has android on it and is also an ereader. Worst case scenario, if you get one and it does end up collecting dust, you are only out 150 versus 300 for the fire. That is merely my own opinion though.
I will say that with the Fire you would be able to do more out of the box with it, as the reviews I have read on pandigital there seems to be no marketplace
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Imho android tablets aren't very mature right now...the transformer prime seems to be a different story tho, but it's definitely not within 300$
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Honestly when you consider what "tablets" are.. they objectively leave a lot to be desired even if they had i7 processors lol.
I have had my Xoom WiFi since it came out and an HP TouchPad for months or 2. They are great. Use them all the time. Worth the money. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. I was worried that I would not like mine, but let me tell you, I have gotten my money worth.

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