Hi guys
3 questions
1. Can you use devices like the Qtek9100 and the Trion / v1605 without a SIM installed or do they sit like phones saying insert SIM. I'm getting one from Vodafone as an upgrade to my wifes contract but am on O2 myself and won't initially have a SIM installed.
2. From experience - do you think the Vodafone version of this device - the v1605 that I'm getting will be SIM locked and if so, do you think it will be unlockable.
3. Are carrier specific versions like this able to be used with generic apps - i.e are the customised to the extent that they don't operate like a non carrier specific version (eg imate) ?
Many thanks
Paul.
Yes it works without a SIM card...its a pocket pc in first place.
Most probably will be locked ... most probably the guys here will have a free unlock tool.
It doesn't matter that it is from vodafone, the RUU is the same. Cariers only add aplications and customisations.
Imate sells devices free of customisations (simple cab files) that you can remove once you have the extROM unlocked.
Cheers,
Raul
Hi folks,
A friend of mine is buying my old T-Mobile MDA Compact off me, he's on O2 PAYG and I'm looking to convert the phone to be as much like the O2 XDA equivelant as posible to avoid network issues.
Firstly, What is the O2 XDA equivelant of the MDA Compact officially known as? I've heard it's the XDA mini, but not sure.
1. Can I install/use an O2 XDA mini ROM (or updated one) to setup the phone for use on O2? I'm assuming the ROM is the only software differance between an XDA mini and MDA Compact.
2. Will this also change the radio stack, allowing the phone to accept an O2 sim card or will i need to apply a seperate unclock tool?
Where can I find O2 XDA mini ROMs? and if needed an unlock tool?
I'm hoping its as simple as just installing an O2 ROM but I'm preparing myself for the worst.
Any help and advice gratly appreciated,
Mike
Mike,
I actually did this about 6 months ago before I left the UK.
My MDA Compact was working fine on an O2 PAYG SIM card with the original T-mobile ROM on the device (I tried it also with the upgrades that were available on the website, though I don't think there are any left online now). All I did was unlock the device to allow it to accept the O2 SIM card.
I got a little bored of looking at the T-mobile bits of the ROM after a while, so I changed the ROM to the generic HTC version. This also worked fine, as it is designed to be universally compatable anyways.
I don't have the file anymore, but the unlock program I used I got off the XDA Developers drive, and I think that it was called xdadev.unlock, though I am not sure.
Hope this helps.
Be sure you are confident in what you are doing before you attempt any of the above, becqause there may be compications in any of the suggestions that I have made.
Guide on how to unlock an Orange TYTN II by UKBATMAN (from post #55)
Want another guide? See post #217
Please note this phone is also known as: HTC Kaiser (T-mobile Vario III, HTC P4550, HTC TyTN II, AT&T Tilt)
On your phone do the following START / SETTINGS / CONECTIONS / USB TO PC. Remove the tick “Enable advanced network functionality”
Using Activesync 4.5 to copy all your contacts / phone data to outlook Activesync 4.5 can be downloaded here: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/activesync/activesync45.mspx
Removing the “SIM LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone could have added a “SIM LOCK”.
An easy way to check this is by inserting another network provider’s Sim into your phone, if your phone works please jump to the next step.
If not I was able to unlock my phone using the following link:http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
Additionally I believe user tupisdin can also provide this service for a nominal fee.
Or you could use OliPro's SIM/CID Unlocker or Jockyw2001's SIM Unlocker
Removing the “CID LOCK”, the mobile network provider of your phone would have added a “CID LOCK”.
POF has the answer for this, follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
New ROM, once the “CID LOCK” has been removed you will need a new ROM, follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331900
Locate and download RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe.
Connect your TYTN II to your pc wait for the green ActievSync symbol and run the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe file.
The only thing I do not like is you get a splash screen saying “smart Mobility” Splash ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Kaiser/Splash/
Additional information and Rom’s can be found here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
I hope this helps, If anyone can locate new / updated roms please post the links. PS. I'm a newbie at flashing but I hope I have made it as plain and simple as possible for my fellow newbies.
Many thanks for xda-developers as I now have an Orange TYTN II unlocked and rid of Orange software.
Enjoy UKBATMAN.
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio versio: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
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Original post by lkw:
Hi,
I've got myself an orange branded kaiser last week and managed to CID-unlock (thanks pof) and and SIM-unlock (thanks tupisdin) the device. but I've read few threads mentioning not to flash any rom to it no matter what. Just wanted to know if anyone has managed to flash a cooked rom sucessfully to an orange branded kaiser. Any gotchas, also is there an Orange rom as backup just in case for warranty.
Regards
lkw
Please help!
I hard-spl'd and ran the HTC RUU.. and after that the phone nicely restarted and asked me for an unlocking Simlock code...
WHAT? which sim card lock? I didnt change the sim...its an Orange UK one..
I tried looking for answers..but the topic seems to be all over the place!
is there a short answer?
Thanks
sim unlock
yes the short answer is you have your phone locked out of all networks
you should have read the forum before
but as you found the forum if you contact tupisdin and make a donation to xda he will unlock it for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314547
you can get it from orange for £20.00 but it will take 3 weeks
sorry
steven
Thanks alot for the informaiton,
I got in contact with that member and he told me what donation I need to make... That its just after I got off the phone from Orange CS. I managed to get it off them for free (They tried charging me, but as im a silly heavy user +£100 a month for the past three years, they decided to let it off for free)
However, as you say, it might take 5-15 working days... therefore, I will have a rather fancy TomTom Navigator without a phone!!!.
I am trying to understand what went wrong.. how come it got locked up? and is there a way to undo this?
Taking a wild stab in the dark I would guess that orange have managed to do more than just change the os keeping the simlock in place however flashing to another rom may have scuppered that setup and as it has not found the orange rom it sees it as incompatible and therefore pops up the sim unlock feature of the phone to release the phone from orange.
bit of a sneaky way of doing things but highly possible if they have all the developer kit from HTC as to what they can do with the phone. It seems that the sim was linked to the rom somehow.
Russ
Hi
I plan on doing the same think with my Orange UK TyTn II tomorrow when I get it.
I am only flashing the OS...am I correct in assuming you flashed everything including the radio stack?
Thanks
Thomas
TYTN II Orange UK IMEI Change after Flashing with HTC ROM
I guess I did...
although I sepnet like 4 hour reading about what needs to be done... until when the sh$£ hit the fan..only then i started see all the bells and whistels mentioneing CAUSION... WARNING... DO NOT FLASH ORANGE UK!!!
Oh Welll
Now what is puzzelling me even more the following:
On the TYTN II box, there is a sticker with the IMEI number.. which is exactly the same as the one on the tag under the battery...
NOW.. after having flashed the thing...I checked IMEI thru Hardware details in settings... and surpise surprise: there are two more digits at the end of that same IMEI! so its the same number but with a 01 at the end...
What happend here? I thought a simple flash will not touch your imei...
Yet another thing to screw things up for OS Changers!
All Resolved.. IMEI code entered.. Phone unlocked.. Everyone lives happily Ever After!
A couple of weeks ago I was all ready for getting my new Kaiser from a website offering unbranded HTCs on Vodafone. The price of these was not cheap at £210 for the phone and £40 a month line rental but I was prepared to pay that just so I could get an unbranded, un-tainted version of the Kaiser, that is until I rang up Orange to cancel my contract and obtain the PAC code that lets you keep your existing number. During this call they offered me a free Kaiser plus a better contract if I stayed with them. I had a feeling that Orange might have screwed around with the software so I said that I would go into the Orange shop and have a look at one before I took them up on this offer. When I managed to get to check out the Orange Kaiser I saw that as expected Orange had completely ruined a perfectly good phone, AGAIN!
My question is how easy is it to debrand the Orange Kaisers. I've seen all the messages saying there's a big risk of sim locking etc etc. But I want to know from people that have unlocked their phones successfully/unsuccessfully how difficult it is. I've de-branded phones in the past so I have a decent understanding.
I also want to know how much of the Orangeness can be removed. Is it removed totally or are there still traces of the rubbish software left? Also how does the de-branding affect the phones features? Do you lose any of the features by de-branding?
Finally what are peoples opinions on whether to go for the free branded Kaiser and unlocking it or spending £210 for the unbranded?
Your replies will be much appreciated
Ben
everything of the orange **** can be removed. If you flash your ROM with one of the cooked here -or even the offical HTC ones- it's gone. Done it myself, now running Dutty's ROM. Go for the cheapest and get your cooked ROM's on this forum
You can install the HTC shipped ROM on an orange phone... I did this because I use windows live messenger and Orange have removed it from their ROM.
BUT...
You will have to pay to SIM unlock your phone (£20 from EMEI-CHECK or £25 from this site - don't even get me started on that)
That's ok if you build it into your calculations of the cost of the phone. Just remember, "de-branding" your phone with the HTC ROM will cost ya.
I'd highly recommend it... and downloading the TomTom taster too (another thing orange have removed - doh!)
why would he have to pay? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
jakeypoo said:
why would he have to pay? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
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Click to collapse
Because that only CID unlocks the phone which is different to the sim card lock which I believe engages itself when flashing a rom onto a orange kaiser the first time around.
correction;
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
SUPER-CID is mean can unlock carrier too. example.. use at&t tilt on t-mobile and so on
jakeypoo said:
correction;
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
SUPER-CID is mean can unlock carrier too. example.. use at&t tilt on t-mobile and so on
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Click to collapse
Sorry I not going to bite on this one I'm just ask you to think long and hard about what you have just said and if you have any free time read up on the differences of CID lock and SIM lock.
Im gonna have to agree with Ratcom...
I tried it myself..i got out of business for three days (that being my phone simlocked)
The CID unlock thread mate-y is talking about doesnt seem to leave Prange UK TYTN II any happy!...
I am now Running Duttys latest (with two russian imperfections lol) and its beautiful...If orange are offering it to you for fre.. id go for that and by loading duttys ROM.. you'd be well pleased!
If benl2k is happy to stick with Orange and use an Orange SIM , then (s)he won't need to SIM unlock it (although I'm sure that free SIM unlocking will come along in time if you keep checking out XDA-Devs).
The question was about getting rid of the Orange rubbish/crippling, and that can be done easily using the info on this forum...
bigchemist, what are the 2 imperfections you mentioned? Also how exactly did you get rid of the sim-lock. Am I correct in understanding that when you flash the Orange ROM it locks the phone so that not even your Orange sim will work with the device?
HARDSPL should be installed before flashing any ROM on your device.
Orange UK seemed to have made substantial changes to the Radio ROM of this device.
Any Orange UK Kaiser user should only flash the OS part of the ROM. DO NOT flash any Radio ROM until this has looked into further. Flashing any Radio ROM on an Orange UK device will result in the device being completely SIM Locked (even to Orange), unless you SIM unlock your device first. You can SIM unlock if you have already flashed an alternate radio but atm there are no free ways to do this. Have not tried flashing Splash screens but one would assume that this would be OK.
HARDSPL does not SIM unlock your device. It CID unlocks your device so you can flash alternate vendor ROMs.
tell me.......
so i take it once you unlock the sim lock - cost 20 quid, you can then do anything you want, like cid removal without any fear of locking the phone out again??? once its unlocked the first time, you never have to worry about a second lock popping out the blue????
Hi Guys looking at getting one of these phones which is a VOX but with Orange UK can anyone confirm if the E650 is locked to Orange or is unlockable without paying a fee to Orange ?
Thanks.
recently got my htc s620 unlocked it was on bt and i want to use it on vodafone but carnt figure out how to set up the internet and mms etc any one offer any help pls looked everywhere loads of info but dont realy understand how to put the data in and when i tried some suggestions didnt work i am on a contract with vodafone but they offered no help as they said they dont support this phone.