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WOW....I did not know that the 3G data network was so fast...I am getting 160 KB/sec download, and 80 KB/sec upload.
That's amazing for phone speeds. At least to me, I just signed up for unlimited data...it's cheap now. 1,400 minutes (shared with my wife) plus unlimited data on my phone only $80 (+ $10 for wife's line.)
What data speeds are you other guys getting?
I did a speedtest. I hooked up my vx6800 to my desktop, and enabled internet sharing through USB and disabled ALL other network cards and wireless on the desktop, then went to SpeakEasy and did the speedtest - LINK. (I chose Dallas, Texas since that's where I live)
Here are my official numbers:
Download: 1401 kbps
Upload: 607 kbps
Is this pretty normal or do I just live in a good area? I get this both at work and at home and they are an hour drive apart. I double checked to make sure my only internet source for this test was my phone by going to whatismyip.com, copying the IP address, then checking it on kessels.com/whois to make sure, and it is an IP owned by the verison wireless data network.
i'm not sure how realiable is this site.
i just did a USB test on imate 9502 with server in San Francisco.
download 1038k
upload 573k
i'm on ATT with 3.5G
Since I also live in Dallas, I used your Speakeasy link to compare the ATT 3G using my Tilt Internet Sharing w/ Laptop. For some reason I only have one tiny bar when I set the pda to 3G/HSDPA mode at home.
EDGE
153/45
3G
1392/355
This is a phone but it is still much slower than my home verizon fios. For the phone, I am paying $50 + $10 + $10 for two additional lines for 550 minute family plan. The internet is another $30 on every line. Comes to about $176/month with tax.
Vaporize said:
This is a phone but it is still much slower than my home verizon fios. For the phone, I am paying $50 + $10 + $10 for two additional lines for 550 minute family plan. The internet is another $30 on every line. Comes to about $176/month with tax.
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y u paying 30$ for internet. isnt 15buk?
yes this is pretty much normal... its not being overexaggerated... phone limitations and write speeds is what makes it not seem like its actually going that fast... i'm not saying that it can't, its just that it won't
theoretically, 3.5g can achieve up to 7.2mbps, but you won't see that on a mobile pohone connection running at that speed for quite some time... i guarantee you in the next few years they'll be capping the upload speed to significantly lower speeds
Since I bought the tilt on amazon. I am stuck with paying $30 for internet for the next 6 months for each line. Actually, the current price for unlimited data is back up to $35 per line now on ATT website:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-plans/pda-personal-plans.jsp
I heard there is a way of using the $15 MediaNet for the tilt for internet service. Is this what you were talking about?
Vaporize said:
Since I bought the tilt on amazon. I am stuck with paying $30 for internet for the next 6 months for each line. Actually, the current price for unlimited data is back up to $35 per line now on ATT website:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-plans/pda-personal-plans.jsp
I heard there is a way of using the $15 MediaNet for the tilt for internet service. Is this what you were talking about?
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i never tried the 15$ MediaNet since i'm still with the orginal ATT and 24.99$ unlimited mmode.
i believe 15buk is a fair price, i only use about 500meg each month.
Vaporize said:
Since I also live in Dallas, I used your Speakeasy link to compare the ATT 3G using my Tilt Internet Sharing w/ Laptop. For some reason I only have one tiny bar when I set the pda to 3G/HSDPA mode at home.
EDGE
153/45
3G
1392/355
This is a phone but it is still much slower than my home verizon fios. For the phone, I am paying $50 + $10 + $10 for two additional lines for 550 minute family plan. The internet is another $30 on every line. Comes to about $176/month with tax.
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We are playing a total of $90 for our bill. We (wife and I) have 1400shared minutes, and I have unlimited data on my phone. Sounds like you are getting ripped off there buddy.
p.s. - fios is fiberoptic, youll never have a phone beat that, lol....my phone is actually as fast as my home DSL which is only $20/month, so im going to use my phone as the modem and ditch my home ISP. Sure, if I had fios it would be a different story, but fios is $50 and up for home service.
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...For some reason I only have one tiny bar when I set the pda to 3G/HSDPA mode at home...
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what do you mean you "Set" it? my phone is in 3G mode 24/7
You can use a comm manager to keep your phone in 2G mode/aka Edge. This saves battery. I switch to 3G for my slingbox or internet connection for the laptop. I was using BandSwitch until I found out it was a trial software. Need to find a different program.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-kaiser/13152-dutty-s-black-10-button-comm-manager.html
I am guessing you have the plan listed on this page:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion=priceSort&typeId=2&subTypeId=22&catId=323
It states "Access to Mobile Web 2.0".
Can you surf the real internet or is it limited to mobile sites only?
And is the internet limited to the first line or all lines?
Thanks
Vaporize said:
You can use a comm manager to keep your phone in 2G mode/aka Edge. This saves battery. I switch to 3G for my slingbox or internet connection for the laptop. I was using BandSwitch until I found out it was a trial software. Need to find a different program.
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-kaiser/13152-dutty-s-black-10-button-comm-manager.html
I am guessing you have the plan listed on this page:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion=priceSort&typeId=2&subTypeId=22&catId=323
It states "Access to Mobile Web 2.0".
Can you surf the real internet or is it limited to mobile sites only?
And is the internet limited to the first line or all lines?
Thanks
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whoa, those prices are high and you dont get much. i didnt get my plan at a store or on the site. i just called in. we get 1400shared minutes, and unlimited data on my phone - i can go to any site using intnernet explorer to browse or opera, or whatever browser i want. its a pda phone, so i dont have the 'mobile web 2.0' application, i just have native windows/internet explorer browser.
ive used about 10gb this month so far, and been able to go to any and all sites i want to.
also, my titan came with the 1400mah battery, not the stock 700mah battery, so i never really have battery issues, I leave it in 3G mode all the time. I can spend about 2 ours cummulative browsing the net, and about 4 hours with my bluetooth headset, and it's still at 80 or 90% battery life. Of course I leave it plugged in everynight by my bed. (use it as my alarm, so may as wlel have it plugged in while i sleep)
I was just wondering if anyone has used the wifi (on a rooted device) to play xbox or ps3 online. I plan on getting an evo, only if i can use it as my everday internet connection and not have to buy dsl or something. I aslo do not want to buy the extra 30 a month hotspot feature. thanks for helping.
I think that you could.....but the latency as far as gaming goes would be unacceptable (for today's standards). I think would be true regardless if you were tethering 3g or 4g, but I'm sure someone more knowledgable will chime in.
The main thing that i am trying to figure out is if sprint would catch on that I was using that much data without the 30 dollar package
My buddy use's a hotspot device to run his PS3 and computer all the time
speed does fine for gaming as long as the device is near the ps3 and he has good signal.
bandwidth wise he's an employee so no cap on his account couldnt comment on that one.
I was curious to know if anyone was using their Thunderbolt for their home ISP. I have been using it today as a trial run since it worked so well for me when I was out of town. If I can save a few hundred dollars a year and get close to the same, if not the same speeds with LTE as my source of home internet access, it doesn't really make much sense to me to keep Comcast around. I am rooted and using Wireless Tether. Mobile Hotspot and its data cap can suck it. I called Comcast and asked how much data I used, the past 3 months were all under 25GB. Thoughts?
All I can say is do it while you can - I know I would be if I lived in an area that had better than 3G coverage.
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I've been thinking about the same exact solution for about a month. Time Warner is charging us $99 for 50/5mbps "wideband" connection, and I'm pretty much getting the same speeds at home on my Bolt. Actually my uploads goes up to 10mbps so it's even better. I think I will probably end up downgrading the cable service to the cheapest $30 a month and see how the Bolt is holding up during the next billing cycle. I've used 53GB on my Bolt during the past month. Speeds still going strong.
nice thoughts, but when there are a few million devices on the network I don't think reliability will be there to be honest. It all depends on what you are doing, and how many computers you have at home.
If you are me and have 10 devices that have internet access at your house, I doubt thunderbolt will be the solution for me. I doubt the hotspot will give me enough range to cover my whole house, if I was alone then it would be a different scenario to be honest and I would probably do it.
I have 2 NAS servers at home that is used for remote access so that right there kills it for me since me and my thunderbolt cant be in two different places at the same time.
even if I was able to get a 4g lte router to plug my thunderbolt in to, they just dont have the horsepower as other routers to provide enough bandwidth for my home network.
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nice thoughts, but when there are a few million devices on the network I don't think reliability will be there to be honest. It all depends on what you are doing, and how many computers you have at home.
If you are me and have 10 devices that have internet access at your house, I doubt thunderbolt will be the solution for me. I doubt the hotspot will give me enough range to cover my whole house, if I was alone then it would be a different scenario to be honest and I would probably do it.
I have 2 NAS servers at home that is used for remote access so that right there kills it for me since me and my thunderbolt cant be in two different places at the same time.
even if I was able to get a 4g lte router to plug my thunderbolt in to, they just dont have the horsepower as other routers to provide enough bandwidth for my home network.
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I should have clarified that. I usually only have one thing connected at a time. Mostly my Macbook, sometimes I might connect my PS3 and watch netflix or something. My internet demands aren't really that high.
Been thinking along these same lines. Time Warner Cable - what a rip off. I barely watch TV and have only basic cable. That plus the ISP and speed boost is $100+/mo. What we need is someway to have the Tbolt provide network access to an existing or new type of wireless router. The Bolt would basically replace the cable modem but not the WiFI router (if you have two different boxes). This would make the transition for folks who have multiple computers, NAS, DLNA devices, etc. almost transparent and probably totally workable.
Cradlepoint? If you can plug in a USB cellular modem, perhaps you can connect your phone. I have an MBR-1000 here at work that I may spend some time playing with later if I have some time. . .
Seth
Dont expect to get away with it forever... once the wireless hotspot trial runs out I think Verizon will be cracking down on rooted users using tethering. If you really want to replace your cable line with LTE through the Thunderbolt your going to have to pay the $20 a month and then I believe you only get 2GB
You do realize that using your phone as a hotspot was never intended to replace your home ISP, right?
Why do you think all these companies are now starting to do tiered data?
I have a netgear wnr3500l and flashed dd-wrt to it. It allows you to bridge two wireless connections or have it join another wireless network. That would allow you to use your TB as your ISP on your home network.
I work from home so its not an option for me, and I have nearly 20 devices on my network.
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nkd said:
If you are me and have 10 devices that have internet access at your house, I doubt thunderbolt will be the solution for me. I doubt the hotspot will give me enough range to cover my whole house, if I was alone then it would be a different scenario to be honest and I would probably do it.
I have 2 NAS servers at home that is used for remote access so that right there kills it for me since me and my thunderbolt cant be in two different places at the same time.
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Me, too. The Thunderbolt as an ISP is a decent idea, and very fast when used, but unless you live alone and have no "always on" internet devices (Servers/Netflix Streaming) then everytime you leave with your cell phone, no one at your house has internet (assuming you got rid of your other ISP - of course, if you didn't you would still be paying for two and defeating the purpose)
I guess it depends on the individuals scenario. I have a maximum of 2 devices connected at a time and they are in the same room. I only live with my dog so I don't need a stationary ISP. Obviously it wouldn't really work for a family or a person with a very high demand such as a home office.
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I guess it depends on the individuals scenario. I have a maximum of 2 devices connected at a time and they are in the same room. I only live with my dog so I don't need a stationary ISP. Obviously it wouldn't really work for a family or a person with a very high demand such as a home office.
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Agreed - If I wouldn't get in trouble from the Mrs. about taking the internet with me, I'd be all over this provided that $20 still gets unlimited tethering and not the 2GB cap some were talking about. Guess it's more of a wait-and-see approach.
Engenius EOR7550 does it
I start out by saying please do not everyone start dumping your fixed ISP bandwidth needs on the TB because it will cause problems from system and bandwidth issues to policy changes with how VZW deals with all of us, resulting in a bad experience with a good system. That said, the EOR7550 is a dual radio commercial grade outdoor repeater. It would be the perfect device for such a test as it is meant to establish a link with one wireless network and repeat it out as another. I use these units quite often to make RV park wi-fi go all over the place.
What is the big deal..
If you can live with the total pain in the ass of always having your phone be your internet then go for it.
I like to have my internet always on and on (to download stuff) when my phone and I are not there.
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If you are just going to browse web pages, maybe check email.. then its something to consider.
But 25gig? I'm guessing you download files, stream stuff, etc.
So then you have to think...
Well the mobile hot spot feature on the TB is only FREE until May 15. After that they will likely charge... either $20 for 2gig like 3G MHS is, or possibly more. i.e. more data used = more $$ per month, so that could add up quick.
VZW's TOS for using the "unlimited data" plan with smart phones stipulates that it is not for tethering, and meant to only be used for the phone, and has some other things around "acceptable use". Rooting and doing "un-authorized tethering" and racking up 25 gig per month might draw attention to yourself. So if VZW does start cracking down on this, you'll be right in the cross hairs and violating their TOS.
Then there is the rumor that VZW is throttling data for the higher data users... so where does 25gig come in? will you be able to live with being throttled if it hits you?
Not to mention having to keep your phone plugged in at all times, since battery wont last long using data constantly.
At that point is it still worth it?
I might suggest you'd be better if you think about brokering a deal with your neighbor to share his/her internet via wifi and splitting the cost instead...
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If you are just going to browse web pages, maybe check email.. then its something to consider.
But 25gig? I'm guessing you download files, stream stuff, etc.
So then you have to think...
Well the mobile hot spot feature on the TB is only FREE until May 15. After that they will likely charge... either $20 for 2gig like 3G MHS is, or possibly more. i.e. more data used = more $$ per month, so that could add up quick.
VZW's TOS for using the "unlimited data" plan with smart phones stipulates that it is not for tethering, and meant to only be used for the phone, and has some other things around "acceptable use". Rooting and doing "un-authorized tethering" and racking up 25 gig per month might draw attention to yourself. So if VZW does start cracking down on this, you'll be right in the cross hairs and violating their TOS.
Then there is the rumor that VZW is throttling data for the higher data users... so where does 25gig come in? will you be able to live with being throttled if it hits you?
Not to mention having to keep your phone plugged in at all times, since battery wont last long using data constantly.
At that point is it still worth it?
I might suggest you'd be better if you think about brokering a deal with your neighbor to share his/her internet via wifi and splitting the cost instead...
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+1. Just the thought is a recipe for disaster. Tiered data is on it's way and suggestions such as this are a good part of the reason why.
My $0.02
KidJoe said:
If you are just going to browse web pages, maybe check email.. then its something to consider.
But 25gig? I'm guessing you download files, stream stuff, etc.
So then you have to think...
Well the mobile hot spot feature on the TB is only FREE until May 15. After that they will likely charge... either $20 for 2gig like 3G MHS is, or possibly more. i.e. more data used = more $$ per month, so that could add up quick.
VZW's TOS for using the "unlimited data" plan with smart phones stipulates that it is not for tethering, and meant to only be used for the phone, and has some other things around "acceptable use". Rooting and doing "un-authorized tethering" and racking up 25 gig per month might draw attention to yourself. So if VZW does start cracking down on this, you'll be right in the cross hairs and violating their TOS.
Then there is the rumor that VZW is throttling data for the higher data users... so where does 25gig come in? will you be able to live with being throttled if it hits you?
Not to mention having to keep your phone plugged in at all times, since battery wont last long using data constantly.
At that point is it still worth it?
I might suggest you'd be better if you think about brokering a deal with your neighbor to share his/her internet via wifi and splitting the cost instead...
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+2 keep your isp.
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Hello, I'd like any feedback from any folks using the TB as their main or primary internet connection via hotspot and/or usb modem mode.
I'd like to get rid of my dsl connection, and use the TB with the unlimited 4g data.
Concerns I have include latency (for steam/online gaming), streaming stability (netflix etc), upload/download speeds and hitting any soft or hard xfer caps (usenet etc).
Since this would be the main internet connection and I have alot of devices around the house, avoiding/negating simultanious connection caps is also a concern.
Has anyone used the TB in conjunction with a normal home router, like with wrt-54/dd-wrt or a newer device like netgear wndr3700, or any router with usb modem support.
Ideally I'd prefer plug the TB into a router via usb and use it as the main internet, or alternatively have the router connect over wifi to TB, with the router performing NAT and managing ports/upnp/etc for the rest of the network devices.
Do a search for "home isp".
I have never used it as a main connection before but I have used the Wifi on it many times.. Although it is fast, it will not work as fast as a main line, especially when gaming.. Also, the ulimited 4G wireless hotspot will not always be available, unless rooted, I talked with a verizon rep about it yesterday he said although it is free right now, they will take that away later. When connecting multiple devices to the phone the speed will only go down.
Now, depending on your ISP I could be wrong, it may be faster, but if your signal is not stable your internet connection on your PC will not be either.
Just a couple things to consider before you go through with you idea. One thing you might do is try to set it up temporarily and see how it goes, but keep your DSL service up. That way you can get a better idea of what to expect.
Just because you have unlimited data on your phone doesn't mean you will have unlimited on tethering... I believe its $20 for 2GB. And if you think you'll get away with sneaking behind Verizon's back your very mistaken. They can see your doing it and dont expect them to put up with you sucking down their LTE without paying for it for very long.
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Just because you have unlimited data on your phone doesn't mean you will have unlimited on tethering... I believe its $20 for 2GB. And if you think you'll get away with sneaking behind Verizon's back your very mistaken. They can see your doing it and dont expect them to put up with you sucking down their LTE without paying for it for very long.
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I agree its not going to happen!!!
Hey all - so I'm grandfathered unlimited on Verizon and *love* my unlimited 4g. At my girlfriend's house (right near an interstate), the data is absolutely rocking. But at my house, about two miles away, I usually have decent signal (half or a bit better), but the internet seriously struggles. For instance right now I've got my phone on Pandora and am wifi hotspotting to my laptop, where I'm FB Messenging. Every 30 seconds or so, my laptop says that my hotspot has no internet connection, and I have to wait 30 seconds or so for it to come back. I've just paused Pandora and at least I can chat uninterrupted now. Seems like I should at least be able to do these two things successfully...
Is there anything at all I can do to help it?
Many thanks!
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Hey all - so I'm grandfathered unlimited on Verizon and *love* my unlimited 4g. At my girlfriend's house (right near an interstate), the data is absolutely rocking. But at my house, about two miles away, I usually have decent signal (half or a bit better), but the internet seriously struggles. For instance right now I've got my phone on Pandora and am wifi hotspotting to my laptop, where I'm FB Messenging. Every 30 seconds or so, my laptop says that my hotspot has no internet connection, and I have to wait 30 seconds or so for it to come back. I've just paused Pandora and at least I can chat uninterrupted now. Seems like I should at least be able to do these two things successfully...
Is there anything at all I can do to help it?
Many thanks!
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You'll probably have to move in with your girlfriend
Maybe the area in which you live is extremely congested or there aren't enough/any cell towers nearby.
Nothing you can do about that.
Haha - fair enough!! Just so weird that the connection just stops working even though I've got decent service showing. Is there any merit to any of the "signal booster" stuff you can buy? Can't really see how any of that could work...
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Haha - fair enough!! Just so weird that the connection just stops working even though I've got decent service showing. Is there any merit to any of the "signal booster" stuff you can buy? Can't really see how any of that could work...
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They're of no use whatsoever. Even worse than all those "cleaner" apps out there (thats supposed to say something).
If you live in an apartment/building with multiple walls/thick walls, that might impact signal strength and speed. You'll probably have to check out various locations inside your house (or even outside) and see where the reception is best. Near open windows good.