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[APP] Due Today Todo/Project Manager

I generally try not to post notifications about my software in other forums, but if anyone is interested, I've created a new todo/project manager for Android 1.5 and later.
If you're interested, please look here:
http://forum.lakeridgesoftware.com/showthread.php?t=16270
Thanks!

looks very nice and GTDish.
but if it doesn't sync to an online service it is pretty worthless for a lot of people.
I for example use toodledo, because I can access it from my Mac at home and from my PC at work...
good luck, anyways, it looks promising.

What if it syncs to a desktop client? Is that worth anything?

of course that helps, but it would still not solve the problem if you can not install apps on your office PC. Thats a problem a lot of folks have due to managed workplaces

So, I've been thinking about this. If I were to set up a ToodleDo sync, some of the extra fields would have to go into the task's notes. Would that be an acceptable alternative?

Very beautiful and promising. I second the need for Toodledo sync, or it will be unusable to a lot of people.
I really liked the looks of it.
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chmckay said:
So, I've been thinking about this. If I were to set up a ToodleDo sync, some of the extra fields would have to go into the task's notes. Would that be an acceptable alternative?
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sure. use Toodledoo fields as far as possible, everything else goes into notes.
but what would you save in the notesfield, for example?
I think about developing a GTD app for webOS and am wondering how to do it well myself

Well, after the data is pulled out of the notes field, the remaining text would just be notes. So, those would be placed appropriately (this is when pulling from ToodleDo). When adding to ToodleDo, I would just place the notes after the extra data.
This gets to be a little complex as I have a few options for contexts which have not been added yet (though the fields exist in my database) and ToodleDo doesn't support contexts as anything other than a text string.
Then there's projects vs goals. I would probably go that route as I don't want to make anyone purchase a pro account on ToodleDo.
After doing all this research, I'm still considering using a WebDAV server sync method with a desktop client as I could guarantee that everything would sync properly.

chmckay said:
Well, after the data is pulled out of the notes field, the remaining text would just be notes. So, those would be placed appropriately (this is when pulling from ToodleDo). When adding to ToodleDo, I would just place the notes after the extra data.
This gets to be a little complex as I have a few options for contexts which have not been added yet (though the fields exist in my database) and ToodleDo doesn't support contexts as anything other than a text string.
Then there's projects vs goals. I would probably go that route as I don't want to make anyone purchase a pro account on ToodleDo.
After doing all this research, I'm still considering using a WebDAV server sync method with a desktop client as I could guarantee that everything would sync properly.
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The software expires today right? Any news on the paid version?

arg! I want to try it.
The biggest thing for me in an app like this is,
Hierarchy: ability to make sub-projects/subtasks (why I love todoist.com)
Widget/cal sync: needs to sync to Pure Calendar or Google Cal
Personally I would not want it to sync to ToodleDo unless the sub-project functionality this seems to have (again can't try it, beta's up) is maintained without needing a pro account of ToodleDo (which supports subtasks)

The beta expired at midnight this morning, so I'm quickly finishing a few things.
What I'm doing right now is adding a few things that make sense with the ToodleDo sync. And, I'm making a few underlying database changes that you shouldn't see if you were using a previous version. Again, this is in anticipation of the ToodleDo sync. The sync won't be available until I release it for the market.
@Hepæstus:
TaskIt has projects and subprojects. Each project and subproject can have an unlimited number of tasks. In the Today view, though, you will only see the tasks. So, when a project comes due, all of its tasks will be added to the Today view (including any subproject's tasks). When you complete the last task, it will mark the project as complete.
As for the syncing, I don't want to make people get a ToodleDo pro account, so I'm setting things up a little differently. The ToodleDo sync will be more of a hack in that the tasks will sync, but any fields unsupported by ToodleDo will be added to the notes field. Projects will be synced with ToodleDo's goals. I know it's not perfect, but I originally designed this app to be synced with a forthcoming desktop client, not an existing web service, so I have a few features that are not supported by either Remember the Milk or ToodleDo.

I forgot to mention that yes, there is a widget. Also, the update will be available later today.

Version 0.9.5 is now up. You can check it out here:
http://forum.lakeridgesoftware.com/showthread.php?t=16286

Hey chmckay, can you see the possibility of syncing with http://my.gtdify.com/ as well? I like the idea of a desktop client, but if I can access my stuff anywhere, that would be even more awesome. I'm eagerly anticipating a paid version.

I'll take a look at that site and see if they have any syncing capabilities.

Instead of using one of those thausands of webservice that offer a gtd-like project/todo-management I would really prefer a sync to my own webspace.
Combined with a simple webinterface, like the one from "Tracks" (which is the base for my.gtdify.com) or MonkeyGTD/mGSD (Tiddlywiki, a dynamic html-File mgsd.tiddlyspot.com).
That would really be great!

@spaboleo:
That was the basis of my wanting to sync to a desktop client: so that you own your data.
However, because very few people are interested in that, I'm looking into ToodleDo and Tracks. Tracks is interesting because you can host it yourself, so that's a plus.
When the desktop client is ready, TaskIt will also have WebDAV syncing so you can sync to your own server and be in full control of your own data.

Ah, ok
I thought that by "desktop client" you ment something like an installable piece of software...which in case would be okay if there is a webclient/webserver-version.
Maybe the installation could be obsolete too by using a portable client.
anyway...thank you for your effort!
sounds really promising!

Actually, I do intend to create an installable desktop client. The WebDAV sync is so that your data doesn't sync via someone else's servers.
The Tracks/GTDify and ToodleDo sync are for those who want web only.

Of course I can only speak for myself, but 70% the software I use is portable and placed on my thumbdrive (even browsers, mail-clients, IM-Tools etc.).
The other 30% include exclusivly larger suites like Office, Graphic-Programs or CAD-Tools.
Mostly an installtion is not really required if you include saved userfiles directly into the programmfolder.
For the less experienced users you could offer a installable version.
But, I would appreciate a ziped version that I can carry around on my thumbdrive, without the need to "make it portable by myself" ;D
I think I'm not the only that prefers portable software.
Best wishes

WM user looking at Android - some feedback pls ?

Hi,
Just as the title says, I am a very long time (since 2002) WM user. My current phone is also a WM device. I will keep it for another year, and I want to be prepared once my phone is due for an upgrade.
I use the phone both for personal stuff and for work - mainly scheduling, working with project related info, task lists, excel spreadsheets etc. Ability to share PIM data and files across multiple computers at work and at home is essential, as well as syncing to online calendar (I use Google).
Most of my work and some personal info was in ListPro database files and Excel spreadsheets. However, ListPro doesn't really work well when one has to joggle info between different computers all running different OS, plus AFAIK there's no Androind app yet. Anyway, to make life simple, and to be able to bring my data with me on a USB stick to any computer, I recently migrated most of it out of ListPro files into DOC files (can be easily converted to RTF) and Excel spreadsheets. So far, I had no problems using it on any Windows or Linux system. I also sync much of this data to my phone where I can quickly access it via Pocket Office. I prefer to use formatted text as it makes it easy to work with information, and applying formatting in Pocket Word is fast.
Finally the next big thing is information backup, especially PIM data. Don't know if this problem is specific to ActiveSync on WM, but every now and then the calendar gets completely out of whack and needs to be restored from backup which I run daily on the phone.
Anyway, sorry for the long winged intro. Here are some questions:
How easy is it to sync files on an Android phone to a computer via a direct connection (USB / BT / WiFi, i.e. not via cloud) ?
I was looking online for a good free Android editor capable of working with either RTF or Word Doc files, and couldn't find any - all I found was some paid soft. It has to be one of these formats so that I could send files to other people. Can you recommend an app ?
Can you work with PIM data on Android phone offline ? (I assume yes). Does it have to be connected to the internet at all time ? (I assume not)
Is there a free Excel compatible application other than Google Docs ? I.e. an app that can work with native Excel files and would output a file that Excel users can open on the computer.
How does backup work on Android - is there a way to automatically backup Google Calendar, Contacts, ToDos ? (I know I can download ICS files manually).
Any other things I may have overlooked ?
Thanks !

1. It is quite easy to sync files between an android phone and pc. It depends on your phone brand.e.g. - If you have an HTC Android phone, you could simply download and install HTC Sync on your pc and easily sync anything.
2. For document editing and excel format dealings, you could download and install quickoffice pro to easily deal with word, excel, powerpoint, and pdf documents.
3. Accounts and syncs (online) can easily be set to run in the background and you can download backup applications.
Good luck.

Your PIM data is backed up to Google contacts and calendar automatically. Any change made on your phone or PC syncs to the other next time you connect. As far as backups go, you can use things like Titanium Backup to back up individual/all system apps, installed apps, and their data to either the local SD card, online to DropBox, or both. And, if you root, you can take backup snapshots of your entire system and restore your entire OS and all the configuration of installed apps and widgets in just a couple of minutes. I do the full app backup nightly and the full OS backup about once a week.
Syncing is easy as your computer mounts the SD card as a drive letter on your device. There are lots of sync options out there that can be used to automatically sync files or entire folders to removable drives when they are connected. You can use them to sync documents to and from as well as things like syncing your phone backups to the computer. Both HTC and Motorola have sync software as well that acts somewhat like iTunes or Windows Media Player in syncing things like music libraries to your device. Personally, I prefer the old file explorer method.
As far as your RTF and Excel files go, there are a couple of different apps out there that work with Google Docs. If you don't want to sync with Google Docs at all or use their editors, your best bet is one of the office suite packages. I know of three or four of them that are available. Some offer free readers, but you need to purchase the pro version to edit. There is an Excel editor that I saw that was only $2 though, so there ARE cheap options out there if you don't want to go the free Google Docs route. Personally, I just sync my docs folder on my laptop with Google Docs and do any small edits I need on the Android using Google Docs. If I want to do a lot of heavy editing, I use the big screen of the laptop anyway.
If you have any other questions, I'll be following this thread and will respond with whatever I know. I know the stress of deciding to move to another platform. I've been on Palm, Blackberry, WM, iOS, and now Android. And, I have to tell you, I like the Android best of all and can't think of a single thing that I used to do on those other devices that I cannot do on this one.

Thanks, guys !
The reason I don't like using Google Docs is twofold. First, and foremost, the access to GD service via our corporate internet is blocked. I work for a major corporation, and as far as I know, at least two of our biggest competiors block GD as well. (We at least can access gmail and calendar). They see it as a potential security issue. Actually for me it's a security issue as well - if anyone ever got hold of my Google password, I definitely don't want them browsing through some of my personal spreadsheets, or any of my work-related stuff. It may be ok for them to see the list of invites to my kids' party, but definitely not my 401K rebalancing sheet . I do use Docs as dropbox, but I upload excel files saved inside AES encrypted zip archive.
Second, I need Doc and Excel since many of my work docs get shared with other people, and I like to be able to email them right away in a useful format.
Thanks ! I will keep reading up on the subject. My wife does have an Android phone but I don't have time to play with it at home.
Added: another thing that bugs me about Android, is that whomever steals your phone has full access to all of your Google services. The way it works on WM, they would only be able to see a few days' worth of emails (I do not save passwords to sensitive sites in browser cookies). The way Android phone is fully integrated into online Google, however, makes it a perfect key to all your Google data. I password protected her phone but I don't put too much trust into a 4-digit PIN.

[Q] Skydrive or Dropbox Syncing

Has anybody found a way to sync either Skydrive or Dropbox documents on RT?
I know there's both Skydrive and Dropbox app for RT but they're glorified viewers at best. There is no true syncing.
And that is putting a big damper in my work flow.
Are there any other options out there? Even a different service that can sync a few documents?

Hi,
I think sugarsync lets you sync files in any platform (they say they do, but I am not a user, can't say for sure).
If you confirm that, please let us know.
Good luck.

Sugar syncs when you start the app. It checks for any changes, that way it doesn't run all the time.

This isn't the same as Syncing, but it makes everything available to you (when connected to the internet) without taking up any space (unless you copy something locally):
http://rashedtalukder.com/how-to-map-skydrive-folder-on-windows-rt-desktop-mode/
Thanks,

Talderon said:
This isn't the same as Syncing, but it makes everything available to you (when connected to the internet) without taking up any space (unless you copy something locally):
http://rashedtalukder.com/how-to-map-skydrive-folder-on-windows-rt-desktop-mode/
Thanks,
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Yeah, this is not much different from Skydrive app - except that it works on the Desktop app.
As for SugarSync, I don't see Windows RT app on their website. Have yet to check the Store and see if it's available.

Montastic said:
Yeah, this is not much different from Skydrive app - except that it works on the Desktop app.
As for SugarSync, I don't see Windows RT app on their website. Have yet to check the Store and see if it's available.
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Yes, it is available in the Store, that's why I sugested it.
Good luck.

Talderon said:
This isn't the same as Syncing, but it makes everything available to you (when connected to the internet) without taking up any space (unless you copy something locally):
http://rashedtalukder.com/how-to-map-skydrive-folder-on-windows-rt-desktop-mode/
Thanks,
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Actually, SugarSync does make a local copy. Its syncs when you start the app as opposed to continuously.
I don't think that we will see a continuous monitoring and sync that will run on a non jail broken device. RT is limited to "metro" apps to save battery life. Basically non-foreground apps are suspended with few exceptions and those exceptions are limited. (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/04/17/reclaiming-memory-from-metro-style-apps.aspx)
Allowing realtime sync would force the system to wake up and check, eating battery life, even if the notification of the change used some sort of "push" method.
That being said, I am shocked that MS didn't work on a solution to that for SkyDrive. It would have given them a definite selling point. Of course, Dropbox and all of them would go nuts.

I use Filebrick app - hands down the best available file explorer - I actually paid for it its so good. It syncs all your cloud files, Google drive, skydrive, dropbox, box, even facebook images/videos, picassa, twitter, etc.

UBNAS81 said:
I use Filebrick app - hands down the best available file explorer - I actually paid for it its so good. It syncs all your cloud files, Google drive, skydrive, dropbox, box, even facebook images/videos, picassa, twitter, etc.
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When you say it syncs, do you mean it provides a local copy of the items? I'm guessing that's what you mean but just wanted to be sure.

Romp said:
Actually, SugarSync does make a local copy. Its syncs when you start the app as opposed to continuously.
I don't think that we will see a continuous monitoring and sync that will run on a non jail broken device. RT is limited to "metro" apps to save battery life. Basically non-foreground apps are suspended with few exceptions and those exceptions are limited. (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/04/17/reclaiming-memory-from-metro-style-apps.aspx)
Allowing realtime sync would force the system to wake up and check, eating battery life, even if the notification of the change used some sort of "push" method.
That being said, I am shocked that MS didn't work on a solution to that for SkyDrive. It would have given them a definite selling point. Of course, Dropbox and all of them would go nuts.
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I don't think there is a need for the app to run in background. I wouldn't mind having SkyDrive sync all my files when open the app. At any given time (especially with selective folder sync like in Desktop app), there wouldn't be a whole lot of files that needs to be synced each time you open the app.

Ideally would probably be something that can sync on a schedule (as an option), but that automatically syncs when plugged in. WP7 had this feature (one of the Multitasking APIs introduced in Mango) and it would make a slot of sense for WinRT to have as well... I haven't checked, though. In general, synching on startup would be sufficient (and should definitely be present), but sometimes that's awkward or annoying (synching lots of files and expecting them to be present without further interaction, or synching a large amount of data that will take too long to leave the app open for, or...)

Just an update:
There's an app called SkyDrive RT Sync in the store that claims to sync SkyDrive with a local folder. I'm going to give it a try and see if works as advertised.
Here's the developer page:
http://uksbsguy.com/blogs/doverton/...ydrive-sync-for-windows-8-and-windows-rt.aspx

I use this method http://social.technet.microsoft.com...backup-of-windows-rt-local-storage-en-us.aspx
I would take a minute to read up on what the commands do , so you know what you're getting. If you're on the same network as a desktop/laptop w/ a dropbox folder, you can sync over the network.
Also worth reading: http://bgtechrants.blogspot.com/2012/11/windows-rt-and-offline-files.html?m=1
And http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/mi...a-general/123700-robocopy-net-drive-path.html
If you have a password on your laptop/desktop
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Do you use Box sync and Dropbox?

I have a Box account. I'm trying to find the value in it, as I currently use Dropbox. Does anyone here use Box in conjunction with Dropbox?
The Box sync application for PC seems to work well, but I don't see any utility that Dropbox doesn't handle. The file size limit (Box) is pretty debilitating.
How do you handle your file syncing?

I actually use 3 different syncing services: Google Drive, Dropbox and SkyDrive, each with its own specialty.
I use Dropbox for all of my pictures (they recently made a nice improvement on their site which lets you organize with a nice GUI your albums and photos).
I use Google Drive to sync my class notes because it integrates quite usefully with Evernote (using IFTTT). I also manage my personal stuff with Google Drive where I have a 2-step authentication to protect these files.
SkyDrive is mainly used for Excel, Word and PowerPoint files across my work and home computers.

kgal said:
I actually use 3 different syncing services: Google Drive, Dropbox and SkyDrive, each with its own specialty.
I use Dropbox for all of my pictures (they recently made a nice improvement on their site which lets you organize with a nice GUI your albums and photos).
I use Google Drive to sync my class notes because it integrates quite usefully with Evernote (using IFTTT). I also manage my personal stuff with Google Drive where I have a 2-step authentication to protect these files.
SkyDrive is mainly used for Excel, Word and PowerPoint files across my work and home computers.
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Ah, nice. I forgot to mention that I also use Google Drive. I'm a bit disorganized in what I use each of my syncing services for. I recently signed up for Skydrive too lol; haven't used it yet though.
Thanks for sharing.

I use Box for all my personal stuff. I also use Dropbox, but that is for business/work stuff.

I like box better (now) because they gave me 50GB free for life, whereas drop box only gave me 26GB for 2 years.. Though drop box has a better ui and site
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I use Dropbox for pictures and managing my nooks ebook collection (via dropsync on the device).
Box is used exclusively for android phone stuff like backing up apk's, wallpapers, ring tones, and syncing titanium backup. Basically it's useful for instances where you have lots of small files that add up real fast (which is no problem thanks to the 50 gb of storage).
I also use Google drive because I don't do much word processing anymore and don't even have an office suite installed on my computer. It's basically used for the occasional letter or for updating my resume.
Used to use sugarsync while I was in school so I always had access to school stuff (spread all over my hdd) but haven't even logged in in months.
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I use both, i like dropbox better but i have more free space through box.

How'd you guys get the 50gb on Box? From the app page all I see is 5gb they're offering :/
& to answer your question OP, I'm using Dropbox + Google Drive. Dropbox has a superb UI and is just much easier to use.

They ran a couple of specials a while ago for iPhone and Android owners that offered 50 Gb if you installed their mobile app. Suffice it to say that the offer was too good for most of us to resist even with their file size limits.
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Was able to get 25gb for box for running windows 8 on a dell computer. Good enough, same as dropbox. I also use google drive for school and Ubuntu one to transfer files through multiple computers/devices.

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They ran a couple of specials a while ago for iPhone and Android owners that offered 50 Gb if you installed their mobile app. Suffice it to say that the offer was too good for most of us to resist even with their file size limits.
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Yeah that's how I got my 50GB.

captaincanada84 said:
Yeah that's how I got my 50GB.
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Same. Box has a sketchy terms and conditions thing though. They take your address book and stuff for no reason.
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Yeah box was the way to go when they offered the 50gb signup promo. I got 150gb signing up with three different email addresses.

Dropbox for syncing, skydive for backups. I keep my music on Google play.
Check out an app called Foldersync. It is amazing for keeping all of your files in sync with all of your services. Free version does scheduled sync but paid version does instant sync. Both do two way sync, and both sync deletions. Highly recommended.
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Hi Guys,
I'm paranoid about loosing stuff, so I use 4 services for pictures. Yeah it's too many, but hey they are free
For only pictures I use Flickr.
Flickr gives you 1TB(!) of space, and that's whole lost, even if you record in HD. There's an app called "Flickr Uploader" that auto upload my stuff, set it forget it.
For the rest and pictures, I use Dropbox, Box, and Google.
There is a neat trick I just came up with, since my 25GB Dropbox account will expire soon, and I got 50GB at Box in that promotion...
I just moved my Dropbox folder on my PC into my Box Sync folder, and blam, now both Dropbox and Box have the same stuff So easy and it works like a charm...
I think Dropbox is more robust, and seems to work faster, but if my account expires, I don't think I'll pay for it, because for pictures, that are my main uploaded content, Flickr and Google+ are better.
Peace

I think you're all mad. Do you seriously think these companies are offering""FREE"" storage?
They look at your files, shared drives and resources, etc etc etc.
Download BOXCRYPTER. It will encrypt all contents to your cloud storage service.
Great thing about BOX is that they support WebDAV!!!
It is by far the best for collaboration, commenting, permissions, privacy, etc. ..
BOX.NET / BOX. COM = Absolutely Bloody Brilliant!!!!
Android iPhone blackberry. .. Their apps all support Box or WebDav, obviously some don't, however I've been successful in twisting either native Box API , or BOX WebDav configuration.
If you ate going to collaborate with others, then you really should go see your doctor, if you don't choose Box!
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If you want higher security than Box and still be able to collaborate, then check out DumpTruck. They are 101% anonymous and implement all the necessary steps for fault tolerance, security, and anonymity.
Die once in your life you won't feel violated with other people (the owners / provider) going through all your data....
But for free services you can always look into Mega who are also serious about not violating their users and paying customers and visitors.

How can I isolate my android from my desktop PC and continue to use chrome on each ?

I have saved usernames and passwords for various websites on the desktop (Windows) PC, for my convenience via Google Chrome. I have several android devices (phones) which are able to access these saved passwords since they are linked together. I want to save these passwords to my PC only. And restrict some from my androids, ie. banks, brokerage houses, Amazon and pay-pal. Now, if I have mobile apps associated with these sites, I can block the passwords and usernames. But, a search via google for the website login page (by-passing the app) will display my username and password. Although the password is not visible, it's still there and allows access to my account. I'm not sure if anyone would know what to look for if my cell was lost or stolen, but it's still unnerving to think it could possibly happen. So, I am searching for a way to segregate my PC from my androids, and still be able to use Crome on all. A Google search gets me answers to all imaginable questions, except for the one I ask. Maybe, I just don't know how to form the question to where Google can understand it.

You should be able to sign out on the other devices.
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DudeBoy1 said:
I have saved usernames and passwords for various websites on the desktop (Windows) PC, for my convenience via Google Chrome. I have several android devices (phones) which are able to access these saved passwords since they are linked together. I want to save these passwords to my PC only. And restrict some from my androids, ie. banks, brokerage houses, Amazon and pay-pal. Now, if I have mobile apps associated with these sites, I can block the passwords and usernames. But, a search via google for the website login page (by-passing the app) will display my username and password. Although the password is not visible, it's still there and allows access to my account. I'm not sure if anyone would know what to look for if my cell was lost or stolen, but it's still unnerving to think it could possibly happen. So, I am searching for a way to segregate my PC from my androids, and still be able to use Crome on all. A Google search gets me answers to all imaginable questions, except for the one I ask. Maybe, I just don't know how to form the question to where Google can understand it.
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Create an alternate Gmail address to use on the androids and don't use that Gmail on PC.
Or
Have you tried signing out of chrome browser on the androids and set it to not remember your username and password?
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